thank you all for your thoughtful feedback re: Bruce looking like a cat. i have now posted the full scene on twitter and you are never allowed to doubt me again: twitter.com/leovader/status/1426628122317922304?s=20
I personally think you should've included this compelling evidence in the video (especially with the bonus meme at the end), but you are the auteur here
I mean, I was literally just about to say. Without him being calked a dog he looks exactly like a cat. Like, even the way he runs. I guess that's just a result of Bruce having to look like the "laddy cat" snowball is pinning after for the joke to work
My issue with this conclusion is that the scene in question is coded like a scene in a 90's comedy when the leading man hits on someone he thinks is beautiful, only for the person to turn around to reveal themselves as a man in drag and/or a Trans person. A terrible, outdated joke that has no place in modern society. However, I would not put it past the writers of the TV show to take that joke formula and also confusingly map the gender element of the joke to the dichotomy of cats and dogs. Because the punchline in the clip you've shared is not just that Bruce is masculine (unless calling Bruce a "dog" is itself a play on calling him ugly because he's not seen as a girl) but also that he is a dog. Which raises several questions about the relationship of gender and species in the Stuart Little universe I don't think it's prepared to answer. But the appearance of an androgynous dog like Bruce does provide an important clue useful for further analysis.
@@Jordan-zt6jq you know, I don't know. Maybe? I once was supposed to get tested but I didn't go cause I got distracted, I think my buddy came over and we went for a walk. It was summer, ya know? Can't pass that up.
The odd thing about the vandalized car is that it's not up on bricks, it's up on the wheels themselves. This implies a market for mouse tires but not mouse rims...
As someone's who's seen, removed, and felt those type of wheels I wouldn't doubt it. I remember playing with those wheels and wondering if they sold replacements for the tire incase it rips or the thread is worn thin. Now that I'm older I understand getting replacement parts for toys and collector items isn't as easy as I thought. So yea. Stealing them rubber times could cost more than the car itself.
Well, you know, not every Mouse has a car. A lot of mice do not know how to drive and therefore, do not need the wheels. The tires on the other hand, can be recycled into several different rubber toys or implements. To a mouse, the rubber is probably more valuable than the car.
"Guy" as a given name is derived from the Italian name "Guido", which is Latinised from Old High Germanic "Wido". The actual meaning of either name is debated.
The weirdest thing in the Little universe is there's one of the books where he encounters a tiny...human women? like, she's a regular lady just small, and he tries to romance her??
Stuart in the books is a tiny human man. He's described as "looking rather mouselike", but people misinterpreted it to mean he is a mouse. Like how Twoflower from Discworld was described as "four-eyed" meaning that he wore glasses, but the cover artist drew him with straight up four eyes.
So that begs the question, if they had a child together, what size would it be? Would it be proportionately as small to them as a mouse is to a human or would it be "normal sized" to them? (Edit: an average mouse is about 9cm long, the average American male is about 175cm tall, so that means their child, if proportionately small, would be about 4.5mm tall)
@@HiperPivociarz Or how Balrog from LotR are described as having darkness behind them that look like wings and now most depictions of them have literal wings
Something of note is that Stuart has several small books that presumably contain the full story. So that means that there's enough small animals able to read that publishing miniature versions of books is viable
I’m not even religious and I have no idea where it came from but I own a bible literally so small you *need* a magnifying glass to read it. It’s like at most an inch and a half tall. I have no idea who printed it or how, but it is possible.
In a world where tiny animals are sentient, publishing houses existing to print books in miniature seems not just logical, but likely. And while you may think that such small printing presses would struggle for funding, I imagine religious texts and propaganda for the “betterment” of non-human people would be the first tiny books published. You just gotta make the mice and the birds aware that Jesus was a human *early*
I like that the original book suggests Stuart is human, just a little fucked up face and height wise. that's canon now. all talking animals in Stuart Little are human. most of em were orphaned by their very reasonable parents for being so short and beastly. cats are not human tho, they just like to chat
Dude every cat I've owned has learned what "trim your claws" and "bath" means. And let me tell you, none of them are fucking pleased when they hear that.
The way _I_ see it, Snowbell can speak fluent human english whenever he wants, he just chooses to speak animal language most of the time out of spite. He still hasn't gotten over that one trip to the vet, and he kinda just feels betrayed by humans now.
"Good questions inform, Great questions transform" The question "can they understand the cat in Stuart Little" has truly transformed me. Thank you Sir Leo Vader, I will never be the same.
Did y’all notice that extremely subtle but very realistic touch at 6:51? Monty’s ear turned in the direction the Mafia boss cat’s voice was coming from before he fully turned his head to face him. Nice attention to detail!
The cats aren't fully CGI, just the facial expressions are. They will have made a noise to get the cats attention so that it turned its head. It most likely wasn't delibarate.
Holy shit I had the exact same experience except I was 3. My aunt really wanted to take me to my first movie. My mom was skeptical. I'm told we did go back in once I'd calmed down and also once she could tell from the audio that things were probably going well for the mouseboy.
"I don't care if the creators have zero answers to these questions. *I* am going to have answers to these questions." I've never identified with a statement about fiction more than this.
A little embarassed to say I literally shouted MOOD at that when he said that. So relatable for real. I love answering questions no one asked about fiction
I accodently step on my cats tail if we're both unaware, a mouse would literally be dead & its be traumatizing if said mouse was your child. I'd be anti adopt mouse if I could
My theory is that the Littles adopted Snowbell as a family member and never actually bothered to learn the complex language of cats only just knowing the fewest necessary to talk to snowbell who in turn only knows a few human words to respond since no one taught him how to speak human. He acts out because he has no way to voice himself in the family who just treat him like a pet. Stuart grew up in orphanage with humans and probably other animals so he learned the other animal languages there.
@@leeroyjenkins0 I don't claim to have all the answers but a possible explanation could be that we see the movie through Stewart's lens of understanding so the translations between animals is seamless to him. The different animal languages could be similar but distinct perhaps like if you knew spanish you could make out a few phrases in Italian but without further study you couldnt really understand it. So perhaps to other animals the conversation is legible but more broken than the fluency that Stewart interprets it as? I
"I don't care if the creators have zero answers for any of these questions, *I* am going to have answers for these questions" This the kind of fan theory energy I am here for.
@@georgedowns4034 so you are incapable of defending the position you have taken, and are now resorting personal attacks when called out. Good to know you are a coward, like I said earlier.
I think one of the main misunderstandings regarding Stuart is that he's not actually a mouse. He is born to human parents, and is described explicitly in the books only as "looking like a mouse in every way". As per the lore, he is entirely human, he just has the exact biology of a mouse for... some reason.
My daughter watched this movie non-stop for like two weeks straight, so I liked this video way more than I should and actually pondered a lot of these same things.
You know that trope in movies where the super smart kid gets ALL the answers wrong on the test, but the teacher knows they did it intentionally because that's statistically near impossible? I feel like that's what Leo's doing with the algorithm. Figuring out exactly what's popular, and then? Stuart fucking Little.
Makes me think of Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated where they explained the lore of why scooby could talk. Apparently there was a race of extra dimensional aliens that crossed over to earth during Egyptian times and used animals as host bodies for their minds, hence the Egyptian reverence of animals, and then they interbreeded with the animal population and many of their descendants have human level intelligence and can talk, so basically a small minority of all animals descended from the aliens can speak and scooby is one of them. They even have a criminal insane asylum for intelligent animal criminals as well. They gave way more "talking animal" lore than I ever expected in that show lol.
They really skirt around the fact that he's a mouse in the book, opting only to ever call him mouse-like I'm pretty sure there's no moment in the book where's he's actually described as having a tail, or large ears Thusly, I think he's just a small human
AND THE DRAWINGS ARE JUST VISUAL METAPHORS! GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER PEOPLE, THE GLOBALISTS ARE PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE WATER THAT TURN YOUR LITTLE HUMAN FRIENDS INTO LITERAL MICE!!!!
Yeah, that's exactly what he is. He's not a literal mouse, he's a tiny man who's "mouse-like". He has mouse features, including a friggin' tail of all things, but he was conceived and born from human parents, and is always regarded throughout the books as a human man. It's.... complicated. It's definitely one of those things that can only make sense to children, because they'll just blindly accept anything at that age. A fat guy who stalks you every waking moment to see if you're being naughty and breaks into your house once a year to commit reverse burglary? Sure thing. A kleptomaniac magical woman who's got an unhealthy obsession with human dentata? Right on. A human family who gives birth to a boy but looks like a mouse and matures faster than Benjamin Button, who is fully human yet looks exactly like a mouse for some wholly unexplained reason? Yeah sure, anyway when's lunch?
Is it a contained town that was exposed to the virus? In which case, was the sky falling actually the collapse of the dome/roof ceiling built to prevent the airborne virus from spreading? Does that mean that following Chicken Little, more wildlife is exposed to it?
I want this man to have an extastential crisis about the world of Redwall. Are mice the proportional size of humans? Is Portugal a canonical place? HOW BIG WAS THE HORSE?! Seriously man, that horse and cart are something else. It just hurts.
Is the old barn the cat and owl live in human sized or animal sized? Who built it. In the prequel, when a cruel cat queens brother just goes and becomes a farmer, does that mean he’s actually like farming?
@@thomasparker3526 It's interesting how the first book seems to take place in a world where there are humans just around the corner as it were, but when Brian Jacques turned it into a series he realised that humans would be out of place in it.
Seen a couple videos but finally subbed after I heard “I don’t care if the creators have zero answers for any of these questions. I will have answers for these questions.” That’s the honest self awareness I need
I think it's cause youTube hates small creators because it doesn't have enough data yet to be able to predict who will like the channel, and they're not gonna waste time on anyone who won't make them that sweet sweet ad revenue so they drag their feet bothering to recommend anyone who doesn't have a decent CTR. Now that he's found an audience and RUclips know his metrics are good and the earning potential is there, I think it's just a matter of time before he releases one that hits the algorithm just right and gets pushed out to a lot of people at once. The growth from his 'are they wizards?' to now is already impressive, and that effect just gets exponentially bigger the larger your subscriber count is to start. A couple of channels I watch will talk about the channel itself from time to time, and they all describe a similar process. I think most people are biased against smaller channels as well, so it can be roughest trying to build up from that. And he's already done that incredibly fast.
The fact that cows are confirmed to be capable of speech and meatloaf is confirmed to be a food in this universe is disturbing. I think it lends credence to the idea that only a select portion of animals are intelligent and able to communicate with humans, while most behave like real-world animals.
I haven’t seen this movie since I was very young, so I was not expecting to be confronted with and have to deal with the implications of mouse bigotry so soon into the film.
this is such an insanely classic timeless piece of media analysis that cemented itself permanently in my brain i keep coming back to revisit it thank you leo
As I child I had two theories: Stuart was in a “princess and the frog” scenario and he just had to overcome some personality flaw to become a real boy again. The other theory I had was that it was supposed to be a commentary on human experiments on rats. But then why introduce a bird instead of a monkey or a pig, which are other animals we usually use for testing purposes. I also think we could assume that this movie and Enchanted occur in the same universe and that Stuart is merely a cartoon mice that slipped thru to our world. Or maybe the product of a regular mice and a cartoon one.
interesting thing to note is that the only speaking mice are white lab mice. Perhaps in this universe science figured out a way to create hyper intelligent mice. Then again the other 2 mice were meant to look like they could be his parents so... who knows. Also I hate this spelling of Stuart, it just looks weird to me.
@@amagicalduck155 it can be spelled Stewart , Steward and Steuart as well. All of them are kinda awful to look at tbh but i just find Stuart to be the second worst
Yeah these sorts of things always happen with name spellings. It comes down to familiarity most of the time, though for me in this case it's mostly aesthetic. It's also a bit of phonetics too since i like the pronunciation of the name with a distinct 'w' sound like "stew-art" or "stoo-wert" rather than "stoo-art" which to me is implied by the u spelligs. Either way it's personal preference, i just thought itd be fun to mention
Cats can absolutely learn words. My cat will react to the word "food," in particular. Granted, that's due to some serious day in day out associations, so snowbell reacting to "bath" in the same way would mean they bathe him regularly. That's not completely out of the question, given that he is a white long haired cat who is allowed outdoors, but even with that they're probably bathing him too much.
All of the cats I've owned have eventually learned to hate the word "bath" to the point that they would hide if it was said at them and it would become far more difficult to bathe them, requiring us to spell it out.
In later years when Stuart's dad couldn't save him from a misdiagnosed disease (in which he sacrificed leg muscle and tissues for some strange transplant treatment) he abandoned his family and became a doctor that specialized in diagnosis. But the memory of Stuart took it's toll on his mental health and he eventually fakes his death and escapes to Mexico on motorcycles with his doctor friend who has terminal cancer.
21:13 I had the exact same thing with R2D2 in Star Wars! For 6 Movies Luke says something and R2 is just doing "beeep bob bop bop". I say things to my cat and my cat answers meow. That doesnt mean I understand what shes meowing about! But then in Episode 7 of star wars BB8 is going "Blub boin beep beep" and Rey is completely understanding what BB8 meant. My entire world view changed that day. ...Things just were better before...
7:26 I’m not super familiar with Catholicism so I might just be misinterpreting what the sign of the cross means but I genuinely thought for a second that the nun believed Stuart Little was a demon and was trying to ward him off
This is the most petty thing I’ve ever watched and I absolutely love it. 6 minutes in and I cannot believe there’s nearly 20 minutes left. Please just do this for every movie ever.
Leo probably best described every early 2000's kids franchise. -Successful Movie -Kind Of Successful Sequel -Bad Straight To DVD 3rd Movie -Failed TV show
The animation style used for the TV series reminds me of rwby because of the budget level, and now I cant stop thinking about a recut to fuse the 2 shows. I mean the weird treatment of the faunus combined with the ambiguity of animal human communications in stuart little seems... destined.
Are we sure that the "dog" that says it's own name is actually a dog? Is it explicitly stated that it is a dog? Cause it looks like a cat to me. I think it's just supposed to be the common "talk to the girl and and it turns out to be a gruff voiced dude" trope.
Stuart Little. Written by Greg Booker, best known for writing the screenplay for Stuart Little, and M. Night Shyamalan, best known for writing and directing the Sixth Sense. He also wrote and directed Unbreakable after writing the screenplay for Stuart Little.
I completely forgot I read the Stuart Little book as a small child until I saw the illustration of Stuart and the tiny girl. That shit made me terrified of meeting a mouse the same size as me
As a transracial adoptee Stuart being chosen reminds me of when people adopt kids from other countries/communities. Basically for the exotic factor even though they are not in any way prepared or qualified. But they are them and have good intentions so it's fine, right? Their a hero....RIGHT?! Meanwhile Stuart almost dies several times from the cat to other regular modes of living they enjoy. And the kids who would have thrived in that community are.....still in the orphanage 🤷🏾♀️🤔🤦🏾♀️
Exactly… you can consider the orphanage administration lady a bigot, but maybe she’s just seen this shit before. She knows what’s up when a WASP-y family adopts a mouse on a whim
I’d always assumed that animals just have different intelligence levels, and some are smart enough to talk to other animals just fine but not humans directly.
My theory is that based on their personalities, cats pretend to not be able to speak to humans. Although because they are sentient and do know the language, smart and respectful people like the Little family understand that the cats are understanding them (to some degree at least) by their responses when they speak and treat them thusly.
Good to see the ol' kitty in the house! As a cat-man myself, I never trusted a man who didn't have one. You can learn a lot of things about yourself from a cat. Humility is a big one. Wanna lay down in bed to sleep? Good luck find a comfy position angling your body around the cat, who I swear picks the most inconvenient spot to sprawl out just for shits and gigs. But dammit, I love'em any way. When you were on the 3rd movie I lost it when you highlighted how their lack of understanding the cat was, "BULLSHIT!" Personally, I think you really got to the heart of some serious prejudice toward the cat species in that universe.
Fun fact did you know that In real life cats have 2 language one for babies or used when adults when taken care of by humans and the other one used when they turn into adults to talk with other cats. So what it can be is that people may be able to understand cats but only if speaking cat language
I’ve legitimately been thinking about this and watching this feels like an itch that has finally been scratched. Thank you for confirming I am not insane for bringing this up at every party.
I essentially blacked out in confusion when you starting talking about the second movie cause I THOUGHT I had never seen it...turns out I haven't. I just recognize a lot of it vaguely from the Ps1 game. Thanks for making me question my sanity over a little rat boy.
The other talking mice definitely live in an underground society! Also, these are one of the few movies I watched (repeatedly) as a kid, so now I finally know what it's like to have a youtube video be made about a film from your childhood.
I think there are three groups of animals, but that they can only be categorised on an individual basis with no species fitting entirely into one category. 1. Those who can't speak (those pigeons) 2. Those who's speech can only be understood by other talking animals (Snowbell and Monty) 3. Those who's speech can be understood by other talking animals, plus humans (Stuart and Margalo) Other Talking Animal movies tend to keep speech between talking animals with humans being totally unaware, although there are more complex examples. For example Charlotte's Web has two categories. 1. Animals who's speech can be understood by other animals (all animals in that movie) 2. Animals who's speech can be understood by other animals, but who can also communicate with humans via writing (Charlotte specifically) It's also interesting to note that in virtually all TA movies, animals who can speak to each other can understand humans even if humans can't understand them. In some cases animals who humans can't understand can even learn to read, although there are relatively few examples of that. The whole talking animal genre raises a lot of questions, and my biggest one is whether the non- speaking animals could learn to speak if given the opportunity. I also have questions about whether Pokémon fits into this genre. Most Pokémon seem able to follow complex instructions, but are unable to communicate their ideas to humans and seem unable to speak to other Pokémon, but cases like Meowth and Mewtwo complicate things.
This video came out shortly after I had lost everything and became homeless. Things are much better now, but this video was one of the only good things I remember from that time, so thank you!
thank you all for your thoughtful feedback re: Bruce looking like a cat. i have now posted the full scene on twitter and you are never allowed to doubt me again: twitter.com/leovader/status/1426628122317922304?s=20
I personally think you should've included this compelling evidence in the video (especially with the bonus meme at the end), but you are the auteur here
@@colette2529 i truly didn't expect it to be so controversial.
I mean, I was literally just about to say. Without him being calked a dog he looks exactly like a cat. Like, even the way he runs. I guess that's just a result of Bruce having to look like the "laddy cat" snowball is pinning after for the joke to work
My issue with this conclusion is that the scene in question is coded like a scene in a 90's comedy when the leading man hits on someone he thinks is beautiful, only for the person to turn around to reveal themselves as a man in drag and/or a Trans person. A terrible, outdated joke that has no place in modern society.
However, I would not put it past the writers of the TV show to take that joke formula and also confusingly map the gender element of the joke to the dichotomy of cats and dogs. Because the punchline in the clip you've shared is not just that Bruce is masculine (unless calling Bruce a "dog" is itself a play on calling him ugly because he's not seen as a girl) but also that he is a dog. Which raises several questions about the relationship of gender and species in the Stuart Little universe I don't think it's prepared to answer. But the appearance of an androgynous dog like Bruce does provide an important clue useful for further analysis.
Your cat is adorable
I've never been so hyper-focused on learning the answer to a question that I've literally never cared to ask.
It's called being a genius
Do you have adhd
@@Jordan-zt6jq you know, I don't know. Maybe? I once was supposed to get tested but I didn't go cause I got distracted, I think my buddy came over and we went for a walk. It was summer, ya know? Can't pass that up.
@@altusshow7574 oh wow! you REALLY get distracted hehe, quirky🥰
I mean this respectfully but I feel like that’s this guys whole niche.
The odd thing about the vandalized car is that it's not up on bricks, it's up on the wheels themselves. This implies a market for mouse tires but not mouse rims...
As someone's who's seen, removed, and felt those type of wheels I wouldn't doubt it.
I remember playing with those wheels and wondering if they sold replacements for the tire incase it rips or the thread is worn thin.
Now that I'm older I understand getting replacement parts for toys and collector items isn't as easy as I thought.
So yea.
Stealing them rubber times could cost more than the car itself.
They have rejected human culture obviously including drip And it’s decadence so they only take the tires they’re like communist mice
Or/And a lack of mouse bricks...
Well, you know, not every Mouse has a car. A lot of mice do not know how to drive and therefore, do not need the wheels. The tires on the other hand, can be recycled into several different rubber toys or implements. To a mouse, the rubber is probably more valuable than the car.
What's the state of the mouse class divide in the Stuart little universe.
"Falcon is just named Falcon" Okay, but we have humans out there named "Guy", so
I'm pretty sure we have humans named Falcon as well.
@@Thor-Orion so there are probably falcons named gy
There are also humans called Dick. Makes you wonder what kind of society we truly live in.
@@Chillerll Dick is just short for Richard
"Guy" as a given name is derived from the Italian name "Guido", which is Latinised from Old High Germanic "Wido". The actual meaning of either name is debated.
"If more people gave up there would be fewer wars." is surprisingly insightful from a talking cat in the sequel of a talking mouse movie.
lmao even after rewinding and listening to it again i thought he said "there'd be fewer whores" and was astounded that was allowed i na kids movie.
@@johnh6065 LMFAOO
I thought he said fewer whores
I thought he said oars!
I thought it was a really wierdly shitty joke about cats hating water!
@@johnh6065Same
It takes guts to make a video about Stuart Little without mentioning that M. Night Shyamalan co-wrote the first movie
Who’s that?
@@rachelcookie321 He is a co-writer of Stuart Little
@@Bottenbig but is he important for another reason?
@@rachelcookie321he wrote “industrial society and its future” and also “avatar the last airbender”
@@s942note: he didnt just write it, he also directed it. No not the animated series. Also the sixth sense.
The weirdest thing in the Little universe is there's one of the books where he encounters a tiny...human women? like, she's a regular lady just small, and he tries to romance her??
I love your being although you never existed
Stuart in the books is a tiny human man. He's described as "looking rather mouselike", but people misinterpreted it to mean he is a mouse.
Like how Twoflower from Discworld was described as "four-eyed" meaning that he wore glasses, but the cover artist drew him with straight up four eyes.
@@HiperPivociarz The illustrations in the book have him as a literal mouse, so it's not hard to see where people got confused
So that begs the question, if they had a child together, what size would it be? Would it be proportionately as small to them as a mouse is to a human or would it be "normal sized" to them?
(Edit: an average mouse is about 9cm long, the average American male is about 175cm tall, so that means their child, if proportionately small, would be about 4.5mm tall)
@@HiperPivociarz Or how Balrog from LotR are described as having darkness behind them that look like wings and now most depictions of them have literal wings
stuart little is actually a clever (and very subtle) metaphor for how being short fucking blows
no it’s a metaphor for how being short is awesome because you get to use small things instead of normal-sized things
@@jade_is_tired all my short kings love driving their hot wheels to walmart
When you're short you say "awwww rats"!!
@@jade_is_tired only if you're mouse sized. If you're just a short human all you get is laughed at by women
@@jimbo5276 Never seen a short woman laughed at by other women for being short
"They don't respect him enough to communicate with him" Damn the Little family is cold as hell
when youre respected less than a talking rat
Something of note is that Stuart has several small books that presumably contain the full story. So that means that there's enough small animals able to read that publishing miniature versions of books is viable
I’m not even religious and I have no idea where it came from but I own a bible literally so small you *need* a magnifying glass to read it. It’s like at most an inch and a half tall. I have no idea who printed it or how, but it is possible.
@@AfromanRants Stuart did obviously
In a world where tiny animals are sentient, publishing houses existing to print books in miniature seems not just logical, but likely. And while you may think that such small printing presses would struggle for funding, I imagine religious texts and propaganda for the “betterment” of non-human people would be the first tiny books published. You just gotta make the mice and the birds aware that Jesus was a human *early*
@@AfromanRants In WW1 Muslims fighting for the British were given miniature Qurans.
@AfromanRants those were really popular during ww2 in interment camps
That “dog”, Bruce, was 100% a cat. Looking at how it acts towards Snowbell by hissing and seeing how it’s tail moves when chasing proves it.
Other characters refer to it as a dog later in the episode
@@denisnevsky3734 dont care i agree with cosmic_mango33 that was full cat. whiskers n all
Isn't it possible Snowbell was using "Dog" as a derogatory term to suggest Bruce wasn't an attractive cat?
@@radicool86 dogs also have whiskers
@@denisnevsky3734but they don't look like cats...
Citing his own fanfic as a source is a real power move
I like that the original book suggests Stuart is human, just a little fucked up face and height wise. that's canon now. all talking animals in Stuart Little are human. most of em were orphaned by their very reasonable parents for being so short and beastly. cats are not human tho, they just like to chat
But if stuart is a human and humans can't understand cats, how does he understand snowbell?
@@lucs028 schizophrenia
@@lucs028 he has fucked up lil ears too
@@gy7uj917 it all makes sense now
Not just suggests. The book straight up say's a human gave birth to him.
The fact that he watched 9 hours and 14 minutes of Stuart Little content and read the book. Shows the serious dedication to the video
Dude every cat I've owned has learned what "trim your claws" and "bath" means. And let me tell you, none of them are fucking pleased when they hear that.
Leo Vader feels like the most authentic expression of what RUclips is supposed to be and intended for
“The mice have DENTAL RECORDS dude” is the same energy as “SHE WORE A CROWN AND SHE CAME DOWN IN A BUBBLE DOUG”
OH GROW UP
AND WHAT WAS HER SISTER? A PRINCESS.
@@genericname2747
Memento Mori
@@McBehrer Unus Annus
THE WICKED WITCH OF THE EAST, BRO!
The way _I_ see it, Snowbell can speak fluent human english whenever he wants, he just chooses to speak animal language most of the time out of spite. He still hasn't gotten over that one trip to the vet, and he kinda just feels betrayed by humans now.
That one trip to the vet: ruclips.net/video/X40CQIh6q5Y/видео.html
@@justTheDoctor Personally, I was talking about him getting his balls cut off, but you know what? I can definitely imagine that.
@@justTheDoctor lmaoo now we know why dr house looks so grumpy all the time xD
@@justTheDoctor 9. [6.
😂
"Good questions inform, Great questions transform"
The question "can they understand the cat in Stuart Little" has truly transformed me.
Thank you Sir Leo Vader, I will never be the same.
Did y’all notice that extremely subtle but very realistic touch at 6:51? Monty’s ear turned in the direction the Mafia boss cat’s voice was coming from before he fully turned his head to face him. Nice attention to detail!
I mean they probably just called the cat by its name.
The cats aren't fully CGI, just the facial expressions are. They will have made a noise to get the cats attention so that it turned its head. It most likely wasn't delibarate.
thats because it's a cat.
This was the first movie I ever saw in theatres. I was 4. When the evil cat put him in the washing machine I began screaming and we had to leave.
Holy shit I had the exact same experience except I was 3. My aunt really wanted to take me to my first movie. My mom was skeptical. I'm told we did go back in once I'd calmed down and also once she could tell from the audio that things were probably going well for the mouseboy.
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Bird Guy here: the falcon noise is the same stock Red Tailed Hawk noise every single movie uses for all large birds. Really gets my goat. Great video
clearly not enough of a bird guy, otherwise you'd know that all large birds are fake and just have speakers in them that only play that one sound.
Shut up bird
@@_ikako_ woah woah, he said he's a "bird guy." What assurances do we have that HE'S real?
Birds aren't real. Bird guy is a government plant
"I don't care if the creators have zero answers to these questions. *I* am going to have answers to these questions."
I've never identified with a statement about fiction more than this.
+++. I uh, kind of wish some of the answers were better though... But I've got nothing myself so respect to the attempt!
A little embarassed to say I literally shouted MOOD at that when he said that. So relatable for real. I love answering questions no one asked about fiction
Did Leo just make his Patreon canon in the Stuart Little Universe, the SLU?
Only in movie canon. The tv show is alternate reality where Leo has Onlyfans.
@@NoFairiesAllowed that's only canon if you make your own SLU content confirming it
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The orphanage lady being openly bigoted against mice is such a bizarre thing to include in a movie
And being openly bigoted against cats is such a bizarre thing to include in a RUclips video
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@@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024 men literally tried to use his *orange* cat as a reference for the entire species 😂
It's not that complicated dude, she's just correct. It'd be more difficult to adjust.
I accodently step on my cats tail if we're both unaware, a mouse would literally be dead & its be traumatizing if said mouse was your child. I'd be anti adopt mouse if I could
"I couldn't find the specific date so let's just say the day Hitler killed himself"
Best line on the internet so far 🤣
My theory is that the Littles adopted Snowbell as a family member and never actually bothered to learn the complex language of cats only just knowing the fewest necessary to talk to snowbell who in turn only knows a few human words to respond since no one taught him how to speak human. He acts out because he has no way to voice himself in the family who just treat him like a pet. Stuart grew up in orphanage with humans and probably other animals so he learned the other animal languages there.
@@leeroyjenkins0 I don't claim to have all the answers but a possible explanation could be that we see the movie through Stewart's lens of understanding so the translations between animals is seamless to him. The different animal languages could be similar but distinct perhaps like if you knew spanish you could make out a few phrases in Italian but without further study you couldnt really understand it. So perhaps to other animals the conversation is legible but more broken than the fluency that Stewart interprets it as? I
"I don't care if the creators have zero answers for any of these questions, *I* am going to have answers for these questions"
This the kind of fan theory energy I am here for.
If they don't do the work, he'll do it for them
Based and Foucaultpilled
In my eyes, it's second only to "conspiricy theorist who's off the deep end, off the rails and off their meds".
doylist vs watsonian thinking at play 😂
I can’t believe I laughed at your “art”. You win this round, Vader.
@@georgedowns4034 *perfect
Ftfy
@@georgedowns4034 so what exactly is your issue? Be specific.
@@casteanpreswyn7528 Watch the video.
@@joeb2309 I have.
I just want this dude to be specific and back his claims up, but it seems too much for the coward.
@@georgedowns4034 so you are incapable of defending the position you have taken, and are now resorting personal attacks when called out.
Good to know you are a coward, like I said earlier.
I think one of the main misunderstandings regarding Stuart is that he's not actually a mouse. He is born to human parents, and is described explicitly in the books only as "looking like a mouse in every way". As per the lore, he is entirely human, he just has the exact biology of a mouse for... some reason.
That answers zero questions!
The Stuart of the books is unambiguously a small human, and the Stuart of the movies is unambiguously a mouse.
since Stuart came to him in a dream, the whole book functions within dream logic
My daughter watched this movie non-stop for like two weeks straight, so I liked this video way more than I should and actually pondered a lot of these same things.
I don’t want to be that guy, but Bruce is surely a cat
i swear snowbell specifically referenced it as a dog in dialogue but i'm sure not going to watch it again to find out.
@@LeoVader well that’s me told! Great video btw
@@LeoVader maybe "dog" was being used as a euphemism
@@LeoVader Bruce has whisks
@@vonniepunch dogs have whiskers too
You know that trope in movies where the super smart kid gets ALL the answers wrong on the test, but the teacher knows they did it intentionally because that's statistically near impossible?
I feel like that's what Leo's doing with the algorithm. Figuring out exactly what's popular, and then?
Stuart fucking Little.
Bold of you to assume Stuart Little isn't still hot in the public's inner mind, secretly.
I know of someone who I'm sure did a review of the first movie before this
Yep, BionicPig did his at the end of June.
"In this scene the bug farts just like a human, so theres much still to think about" I'm in orbit
Same that one line killed me
bug anus..?
This formatting was perfect: movie 1, 2, & 3 gathering clues, an analysis of the tv series, then returning to the source material for a conclusion.
I like the theory that their real son died and they got Stuart to cope and everyone they know just plays along to not upset them.
Makes me think of Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated where they explained the lore of why scooby could talk. Apparently there was a race of extra dimensional aliens that crossed over to earth during Egyptian times and used animals as host bodies for their minds, hence the Egyptian reverence of animals, and then they interbreeded with the animal population and many of their descendants have human level intelligence and can talk, so basically a small minority of all animals descended from the aliens can speak and scooby is one of them. They even have a criminal insane asylum for intelligent animal criminals as well. They gave way more "talking animal" lore than I ever expected in that show lol.
They really skirt around the fact that he's a mouse in the book, opting only to ever call him mouse-like
I'm pretty sure there's no moment in the book where's he's actually described as having a tail, or large ears
Thusly, I think he's just a small human
Holy shit
AND THE DRAWINGS ARE JUST VISUAL METAPHORS! GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER PEOPLE, THE GLOBALISTS ARE PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE WATER THAT TURN YOUR LITTLE HUMAN FRIENDS INTO LITERAL MICE!!!!
Yeah, that's exactly what he is. He's not a literal mouse, he's a tiny man who's "mouse-like". He has mouse features, including a friggin' tail of all things, but he was conceived and born from human parents, and is always regarded throughout the books as a human man. It's.... complicated.
It's definitely one of those things that can only make sense to children, because they'll just blindly accept anything at that age. A fat guy who stalks you every waking moment to see if you're being naughty and breaks into your house once a year to commit reverse burglary? Sure thing. A kleptomaniac magical woman who's got an unhealthy obsession with human dentata? Right on. A human family who gives birth to a boy but looks like a mouse and matures faster than Benjamin Button, who is fully human yet looks exactly like a mouse for some wholly unexplained reason? Yeah sure, anyway when's lunch?
Does the cat mafia try to kill him or is it just the regular mafia?
@@WobblesandBean so what are his fake parents when they turn up, also mouse looking people?
Only one question remains: What about Chicken Little? Where does he fit in the lore? Is he related to our little mouse friend? Much to think about...
Is it a contained town that was exposed to the virus? In which case, was the sky falling actually the collapse of the dome/roof ceiling built to prevent the airborne virus from spreading? Does that mean that following Chicken Little, more wildlife is exposed to it?
@@e.d.5766 holy shit, I think you just broke the code!
This reads like a Kojima tweet.
@@e.d.5766 Dogs and cats living together, MASS HYSTERIA!
What about the Garfield universe?
I want this man to have an extastential crisis about the world of Redwall. Are mice the proportional size of humans? Is Portugal a canonical place? HOW BIG WAS THE HORSE?!
Seriously man, that horse and cart are something else. It just hurts.
I love the red wall series! I thought I was alone in this fandom, but apparently there's 8 more of you somewhere out there on the internet.
@@Thor-Orionme too!
Is the old barn the cat and owl live in human sized or animal sized? Who built it. In the prequel, when a cruel cat queens brother just goes and becomes a farmer, does that mean he’s actually like farming?
@@thomasparker3526 I DONT KNOW!!!
*breaks down sobbing on the floor*
NOBODY KNOWS!!
Ps i’ve never actually looked for an answer online
@@thomasparker3526 It's interesting how the first book seems to take place in a world where there are humans just around the corner as it were, but when Brian Jacques turned it into a series he realised that humans would be out of place in it.
Seen a couple videos but finally subbed after I heard “I don’t care if the creators have zero answers for any of these questions. I will have answers for these questions.” That’s the honest self awareness I need
you are seriously one of the most underrated youtubers. your content is really funny i hope you blow up soon
I think it's cause youTube hates small creators because it doesn't have enough data yet to be able to predict who will like the channel, and they're not gonna waste time on anyone who won't make them that sweet sweet ad revenue so they drag their feet bothering to recommend anyone who doesn't have a decent CTR. Now that he's found an audience and RUclips know his metrics are good and the earning potential is there, I think it's just a matter of time before he releases one that hits the algorithm just right and gets pushed out to a lot of people at once. The growth from his 'are they wizards?' to now is already impressive, and that effect just gets exponentially bigger the larger your subscriber count is to start.
A couple of channels I watch will talk about the channel itself from time to time, and they all describe a similar process. I think most people are biased against smaller channels as well, so it can be roughest trying to build up from that. And he's already done that incredibly fast.
The fact that cows are confirmed to be capable of speech and meatloaf is confirmed to be a food in this universe is disturbing.
I think it lends credence to the idea that only a select portion of animals are intelligent and able to communicate with humans, while most behave like real-world animals.
Yeah, this theory makes the most sense. ...But the cats! What about the cats? They're still a mystery.
@@miab-p6874 cats are sentient, but are treated as slaves. Meatloafs are made of disobedient cats.
@@Kickiusz Ha ha, lol. XD
@@Kickiusz Is Snowbell a Cannibal?
@@RAFMnBgaming the real question is: does he _know_ he's a cannibal.
I haven’t seen this movie since I was very young, so I was not expecting to be confronted with and have to deal with the implications of mouse bigotry so soon into the film.
this is such an insanely classic timeless piece of media analysis that cemented itself permanently in my brain i keep coming back to revisit it thank you leo
As I child I had two theories: Stuart was in a “princess and the frog” scenario and he just had to overcome some personality flaw to become a real boy again. The other theory I had was that it was supposed to be a commentary on human experiments on rats. But then why introduce a bird instead of a monkey or a pig, which are other animals we usually use for testing purposes. I also think we could assume that this movie and Enchanted occur in the same universe and that Stuart is merely a cartoon mice that slipped thru to our world. Or maybe the product of a regular mice and a cartoon one.
Humans do experiments on birds too. Mostly pigeons, but songbirds are also used as a model for the neurobiology of language learning.
interesting thing to note is that the only speaking mice are white lab mice. Perhaps in this universe science figured out a way to create hyper intelligent mice. Then again the other 2 mice were meant to look like they could be his parents so... who knows. Also I hate this spelling of Stuart, it just looks weird to me.
That's literally just how Stuart is spelled tho?
@@amagicalduck155 it can be spelled Stewart , Steward and Steuart as well. All of them are kinda awful to look at tbh but i just find Stuart to be the second worst
@@PieMastyr my uncle's name is Stuart so it looks more correct to me than any other spelling
Yeah these sorts of things always happen with name spellings. It comes down to familiarity most of the time, though for me in this case it's mostly aesthetic. It's also a bit of phonetics too since i like the pronunciation of the name with a distinct 'w' sound like "stew-art" or "stoo-wert" rather than "stoo-art" which to me is implied by the u spelligs. Either way it's personal preference, i just thought itd be fun to mention
or those white mice are the same species from Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
Cats can absolutely learn words. My cat will react to the word "food," in particular. Granted, that's due to some serious day in day out associations, so snowbell reacting to "bath" in the same way would mean they bathe him regularly. That's not completely out of the question, given that he is a white long haired cat who is allowed outdoors, but even with that they're probably bathing him too much.
All of the cats I've owned have eventually learned to hate the word "bath" to the point that they would hide if it was said at them and it would become far more difficult to bathe them, requiring us to spell it out.
@@lefteyereport6354 Same here. One of them even managed to figure out B-A-T-H and we had to resort to the word "Cleansing".
@@LittleZbot I'm a human and I would be terrified if somebody told me "its time for your cleansing"
@@roymarshall_ I’d be scared at bath too over 6 years old
My cats understand. They know their names, would sit on the place i pat, and would run if they think we are angry at them
In later years when Stuart's dad couldn't save him from a misdiagnosed disease (in which he sacrificed leg muscle and tissues for some strange transplant treatment) he abandoned his family and became a doctor that specialized in diagnosis. But the memory of Stuart took it's toll on his mental health and he eventually fakes his death and escapes to Mexico on motorcycles with his doctor friend who has terminal cancer.
Did you try the medicine drug?
The entire video was just preparing us so that all the jokes landed in the ending sketch, and it was masterfully executed
21:13 I had the exact same thing with R2D2 in Star Wars! For 6 Movies Luke says something and R2 is just doing "beeep bob bop bop". I say things to my cat and my cat answers meow. That doesnt mean I understand what shes meowing about!
But then in Episode 7 of star wars BB8 is going "Blub boin beep beep" and Rey is completely understanding what BB8 meant. My entire world view changed that day.
...Things just were better before...
Stuart Little 4: George's Cousin famously went on to be snubbed at the Academy Awards, winning only one for set design.
modern philosophy needs modern questions
7:26 I’m not super familiar with Catholicism so I might just be misinterpreting what the sign of the cross means but I genuinely thought for a second that the nun believed Stuart Little was a demon and was trying to ward him off
This is the most petty thing I’ve ever watched and I absolutely love it. 6 minutes in and I cannot believe there’s nearly 20 minutes left. Please just do this for every movie ever.
The more you describe Snowball’s family dynamics, the more I related to him as an adult lol 😂
I'm glad someone is finally using this platform for good
I would really like to see Leo Vader riding a tiny little motor bike but it looks completely normal compared to him because he’s mouse sized
Leo probably best described every early 2000's kids franchise.
-Successful Movie
-Kind Of Successful Sequel
-Bad Straight To DVD 3rd Movie
-Failed TV show
The animation style used for the TV series reminds me of rwby because of the budget level, and now I cant stop thinking about a recut to fuse the 2 shows. I mean the weird treatment of the faunus combined with the ambiguity of animal human communications in stuart little seems... destined.
11:26 cats were all collectively like "nah I ain't learning that bs language" that's my guess
I love how this video didn't end with a straight answer so, now I'm just sitting here still wondering if the little family can understand their cat.
This might be my new favourite Leo Vader vid, the skit at the end absolutely killed me
Are we sure that the "dog" that says it's own name is actually a dog? Is it explicitly stated that it is a dog? Cause it looks like a cat to me. I think it's just supposed to be the common "talk to the girl and and it turns out to be a gruff voiced dude" trope.
Yeah, looks a lot like a cat to me.
I've seen the episode, I thought it was a cat too until later on Snowbell said it was a dog. I think another character refers to it as a dog too.
16:44 sir that is a cat 😂
It’s a testament to your personality that this video is longer than your Now you see me video
Stuart Little. Written by Greg Booker, best known for writing the screenplay for Stuart Little, and M. Night Shyamalan, best known for writing and directing the Sixth Sense. He also wrote and directed Unbreakable after writing the screenplay for Stuart Little.
This is the most creative and hilarious content I’ve ever engaged with on RUclips’s
Leo, you continue to be one of my favorite youtubers. Fantastic video!
Hey it's my favorite boy, Renn with 2 Ns!
Cut down on the smoking!
Ew
This channel is so validating to me as I always wind up fixating on the details and implied lore of media worlds. Great stuff!
That fanfic joke was my subscription, glad I found your account
I completely forgot I read the Stuart Little book as a small child until I saw the illustration of Stuart and the tiny girl. That shit made me terrified of meeting a mouse the same size as me
As a transracial adoptee Stuart being chosen reminds me of when people adopt kids from other countries/communities. Basically for the exotic factor even though they are not in any way prepared or qualified. But they are them and have good intentions so it's fine, right? Their a hero....RIGHT?! Meanwhile Stuart almost dies several times from the cat to other regular modes of living they enjoy. And the kids who would have thrived in that community are.....still in the orphanage 🤷🏾♀️🤔🤦🏾♀️
damn, the littles really only adopted stuart for clout, huh?
Exactly… you can consider the orphanage administration lady a bigot, but maybe she’s just seen this shit before. She knows what’s up when a WASP-y family adopts a mouse on a whim
I'm sorry but please tell me, what is a transracial?
@@finnsweeney2604 I think it means you were adopted by a family that is a different race than your own
You low key calling your adoptive parents racist?
I’d always assumed that animals just have different intelligence levels, and some are smart enough to talk to other animals just fine but not humans directly.
18:13 I'm surprised you didnt talk about the horrifying implications of speaking farm animals
I'm so glad the Leo Vader Patreon in now apart of official Stuart Little lore!
Stuart Little? More like A Little Inconsistent Anthropomorphism
I’ve just realized that Stuart’s dad is Hugh Laurie, aka Dr. House and Senator Tom James. What range!
This is the kind of nitpicky bullshit that gets you labeled as "a little much" by your friends, and I fucking love it hahaha
1:37 DOCTOR HOUSE?!
Cats can definitely understand words
I would say "food" and my cat would go running over to her bowl and wait for me to fill it
Leo Vader is so good at this.
My theory is that based on their personalities, cats pretend to not be able to speak to humans. Although because they are sentient and do know the language, smart and respectful people like the Little family understand that the cats are understanding them (to some degree at least) by their responses when they speak and treat them thusly.
Good to see the ol' kitty in the house! As a cat-man myself, I never trusted a man who didn't have one. You can learn a lot of things about yourself from a cat. Humility is a big one. Wanna lay down in bed to sleep? Good luck find a comfy position angling your body around the cat, who I swear picks the most inconvenient spot to sprawl out just for shits and gigs. But dammit, I love'em any way.
When you were on the 3rd movie I lost it when you highlighted how their lack of understanding the cat was, "BULLSHIT!" Personally, I think you really got to the heart of some serious prejudice toward the cat species in that universe.
“Dame Judy Stench” is probably one of the best jokes I’ve heard all year
This has not only opened up a whole new world of Stuart Little Lore but has also just raised more questions.
Fun fact did you know that In real life cats have 2 language one for babies or used when adults when taken care of by humans and the other one used when they turn into adults to talk with other cats. So what it can be is that people may be able to understand cats but only if speaking cat language
Dude got in so deep he started calling stuart little 2 “SL2”
The farting bug had me in tears
6:47 when leo says "that they abuse drugs and arrange murders" it syncs up PERFECTLY with Montys mouth. It really seems like monty is saying it 😂😂😂
15:14 lmao this whole video is great watch from start to finish
Man I have a strange want to watch these movies again. You made this far more intriguing than it should be lol loved it as always Leo.
Your Channel makes me really nostalgic for ~2012 RUclips and I'm so glad I'm subscribed
"They can understand him, but they just don't respect him enough to try to communicate"
I’ve legitimately been thinking about this and watching this feels like an itch that has finally been scratched. Thank you for confirming I am not insane for bringing this up at every party.
Obsessed with this video. Gonna have to binge watch your whole channel now
I essentially blacked out in confusion when you starting talking about the second movie cause I THOUGHT I had never seen it...turns out I haven't. I just recognize a lot of it vaguely from the Ps1 game. Thanks for making me question my sanity over a little rat boy.
The other talking mice definitely live in an underground society!
Also, these are one of the few movies I watched (repeatedly) as a kid, so now I finally know what it's like to have a youtube video be made about a film from your childhood.
I think there are three groups of animals, but that they can only be categorised on an individual basis with no species fitting entirely into one category.
1. Those who can't speak (those pigeons)
2. Those who's speech can only be understood by other talking animals (Snowbell and Monty)
3. Those who's speech can be understood by other talking animals, plus humans (Stuart and Margalo)
Other Talking Animal movies tend to keep speech between talking animals with humans being totally unaware, although there are more complex examples.
For example Charlotte's Web has two categories.
1. Animals who's speech can be understood by other animals (all animals in that movie)
2. Animals who's speech can be understood by other animals, but who can also communicate with humans via writing (Charlotte specifically)
It's also interesting to note that in virtually all TA movies, animals who can speak to each other can understand humans even if humans can't understand them.
In some cases animals who humans can't understand can even learn to read, although there are relatively few examples of that.
The whole talking animal genre raises a lot of questions, and my biggest one is whether the non- speaking animals could learn to speak if given the opportunity.
I also have questions about whether Pokémon fits into this genre. Most Pokémon seem able to follow complex instructions, but are unable to communicate their ideas to humans and seem unable to speak to other Pokémon, but cases like Meowth and Mewtwo complicate things.
This video came out shortly after I had lost everything and became homeless. Things are much better now, but this video was one of the only good things I remember from that time, so thank you!