I live in France and have recently bought the 62 Kwh Leaf Tekna. I looked at all the alternatives. Tesla too expensive. VW ID3 unreliable. The Leaf has the experience and reliability.. Brilliant car.
I have a 2022 E+ Tekna as well. Best car you can buy for the price. The used market is crazy cheap. I will never be called cool when driving and that is fine by me :)
I bought an ex-lease 2018 SV (240km range) model, and in six months, haven't had even 1 issue. I live just outside Vancouver BC, Canada, so it's not extremely cold, but still gets quite cold. I used the 110V adapter to charge at home for the first 2 months and judging by the rate, would take 32 hours to charge from zero. I did try a stage 3 charger twice, and it charged from 25% to 100% in 1 hour. After 2 months we had a home stage 2 charger installed. ($1100 CAN. for the charger, with a $495 rebate from BC Hydro ... the wiring and labour is about $300) ... now It charges from zero% to 100% in less than 6 hours, so you can run it down during the day, and it's 100% in the morning... and I have seen zero battery life loss as yet. (also, the warranty for this battery is 8 years.) So far the charging at home has cost me $65 CAN. ... 675 kWh and 4100 Km .. or 0.0158¢ per Km .... (0.072¢ per mile) My SUV was costing me about 15¢ per Km ... that's almost 100 times the savings! The change to an EV is a no brainer ... and the planet is better for it! Lastly, everything that was said on the video is absolutely true for ours ... except for 1 thing. The battery in mine in the cold (sub zero) loses about 12%, (not 50% like in the video) and much of that loss is due primarily to the heater ... the only discernible battery drop in these is due to heat and air conditioning ... nothing else seems to affect the battery loss (IE: radio, lights etc.) ... these are negligible. My brother has the Tesla Model 3, and I much prefer the Leaf to his. It's ease of operation and simplicity makes driving a breeze ... I also feel it's more user friendly. It's a fantastic vehicle!
We have a Japanese imported 2014 Nissan Leaf we brought it used in 2016, the only part that has ever failed is a cabin fan blower motor which I got the part of our local Nissan dealer and fitted it ourselves. But yeah its a great cheap to buy and use and after 6 years the battery health is still at 83% when we brought it 4 years ago it was 91% so only 8% loss in 4 years is very impressive!
Does it make sense to install your own charging station in Vancouver? In Montreal and its close vicinity, there are about 1260 public stations meaning they're everywhere. How big is Vancouver's network?
After driving my 2014 Leaf for over 2 years in both hot and cold weather in Oklahoma, I see no reason for a liquid cooled battery management system -- I like the simplicity and performance of what I have -- don't need the extra complications of a pump, fluid, belts, gaskets, etc that can go wrong. When driving the Leaf in the same manner as one would drive an ICE vehicle, the Leaf passive battery management system is entirely satisfactory.
I agree 100% with you. I enjoy my 2021 Nissan LEAF SV PLUS. That was exactly what i told my wife that the less stuff in the car; then the less there is to repair/Cost Money.
There is an advantage to the LEAF's battery design: safety. I can imagine the Japanese designers of the first generation LEAF thinking, we should err on the side of safety. It might have killed the LEAF if an early one went up in flames due to a battery problem. So they made the battery as safe as possible knowing they were going to take a performance hit. Other EVs occasionally have battery fires, but I have not heard of a LEAF battery fire.
I am planning to replace my 2005 Honda Accord which is our second car and used as daily driver. I was not able to decide between Leaf and Bolt. Bolt specs are superior (higher range, liquid cooling, CCS charger I/F) and should be a no brainer. But I am still favoring Leaf because of my lack trust with Chevy and confidence on Nissan's Japanese design. I have not heard of any battery fires on Nissan Leaf. 150 mile range is more than enough for my daily usage which is around 20-25 miles. And Leaf is cheaper than Bolt with federal tax credit. Your comment really helped me.
I'm not sure if a single year is a good measurement of long term reliability. I'd imagine most cars should be able to run for a year with no problems if they're brand new, or is this not the case?
Well our Nissan Leaf is now 6 years old and its only had a cabin heater fan blower motor fail in which I got the part and fitted it myself. Its battery health is 83% which for such a so called junk battery is not to bad. We brought it used in 2016 and since we have owned it has only lost 8% battery health in that 4 years.
I think battery degradation is a function of where you live. Michigan rarely gets hot so the Leaf battery probably has good life. If you live in the south, not so much.
@@MHdollrevievs In the USA average person drive around 30 miles a day most could drive a fraction of that with better planning......it gets to the point of wondering why to own a vehicle that sits in the driveway/parking garage 23 hours a day.
Not really. It depends on where you live and what infrastructure you have, but in Central / Eastern Canada, you can go literally wherever you want. With a 360-370km (230 mile) range you will most likely need to stop every 3 hours or so anyway, so why not charge while you're at that. That is if you're travelling farther than your effective range (which, honestly, should happen maybe a couple of times a year for most people?)
@@Plisken65 The 30 miles is an old number from 2015 my further research show it is now up to 39!!! You would have to charge an old gen 1 Nissan Leaf every other day. I think for most areas in the USA 150mile range is plenty especially if there are fast chargers available. Everyone has a slow charger in their house it is called the 220 plug for the dryer :)
my leaf 2018 is at 15,000 Km (9300 miles). Owned the leaf for 1 year and no degradation that i can notice. This is a canadian car so not sure if the climate here since its cooler here, helps with less degradation.
@stan S Maybe I'm confused but I thought degradation was when the battery loses capacity permanently. In the winter I did notice loss in range but the range came back in summer.
@@gwina5665 The winter capacity loss is simply due to the temperature of the battery. The chemical reaction is restricted. That loss only persists as long as the temperature is low. The permanent capacity loss is caused by the age of the battery, driving usage, fast charging and extreme levels of discharge / charge. You minimize it by keeping the charge above 20% and below 95% (or minimizing the time the battery is in these states).
The original Leaf had NO cooling so the batteries overheated & dropped to 70% capacity in hot states (Arizona, Southern California). It was permanent damage, so the owners demanded a buyback of their cars. The Gen2 Leaf still lacks liquid cooling to prevent battery overheating .
I live in Sweden and have had the 40 KW version for two years. If there was a 50% drop in range in cold weather I would have seen it. Not sure what is wrong with his battery. Worst case for me is about 120 miles of range on a very cold day, more if I take the back roads.
No review on battery life. Any difference in range after one year. Any issues with the car in one year ? Nothing more than an unboxing video ...... Need to put more into your videos
They likely experienced no degradation of note, so skipped over that. Also, they said no issues in the year they drove it. It's a long term review but the car was just so reliable it did not give them much to cover in terms of issues.
So, for me after 25k km (14k miles) driving in hot and extreme cold conditions in Canada, the battery still has a 256 km range in the summer vs the 240 km range Nissan claims, so it's still above the original estimate.
Still dislike the air-cooled battery pack, which no one refuses to mention. Coupled with Nissan's history of reluctance to honor battery pack warentees, (see people of CA/AZ vs Nissan), THEN NO THANK YOU!! Even Chevy uses liquid cooled battery packs. LOOKS JAPANESE BUT SMELLS OF FRENCH COST CUTTING!
kai zen I’m in so cal. I ended up getting a volt because it has liquid cooling and a lot of bad story’s about the air cooling in hot areas like so cal and Phoenix. But this new model would like to see a better review. And see how it compares to the older model.
The original Leaf didn't have a battery warranty (going back to 2010 now), a 5 year battery warranty was introduced for the 24kwh Leaf following some complaints from CA/AZ, increasing to 8 years for the 30kwh, 40kwh and now 62kwh Leafs. The Leaf was and is designed in Japan and built in Japan, UK and US (no French Connection for the Leaf).
I live in Phoenix and wonder what driving in over and near 100 degree weather half the year will do. If this will fry the battery and I have to send it to a dealer for a week for a repair (thats assuming I have a warranty) this changes things a bit.
My Leaf is seven months old. In the UK, the last couple of months have seen temperatures of under five degrees Celsius. The normal range of my Leaf is 168 miles but in these temperatures, I been getting around 130 miles. the eco mode does nothing to improve efficiency and the e-pedal decreases efficiency from 5+ m/kwh to around 4.5m/kwh. I do all charging at home and it costs around 2p per mile. The average ICE car would be approximately seven times that.
I have to get my axle greased every 6 month on my 2019 40kwhr Leaf. Planning on getting rid of it next year for an AWD EV. Also 10% Battery degradation in 24 months @ 32,000 miles.
Do you use a lot of public charging stations. I ask because I only have one time and wound up losing 12 miles of range. I did have problems AFTER using the charge point so, I can't blame that for the loss, but it seems funny the one and only time I use one and my range drops.
Thats crazy low, he said subzero so if it doesnt get down to -10f theres no problem, i see people drive this in 10f weather and get 120 miles outta it. He also didnt leave it in his garage plugged in, had he of, he wouldnt of lost much range at all.
I drove the car 500 miles. Its a great road trip car but I had the plus to drive. I dunno why people keep saying that its not true all EV's you can road trip.
It depends on where you live and where you are going. The US has a lot of dead spots that don't have the Chademo fast charger. It can make road trips a headache, especially if there is an issue with the charger when you get the as some stations have only one. With research and back up plans, it can be done. Most don't recommend fast charging more than twice a day as the third charge will likely be slow due to the temperature of the battery.
I want a NON-SUV model. The electric motors have the get up and go, give me a sports car. A good midlife crisis car. Please Nissan how about a 290-E based on the 280-Z
If you left e-pedal on all the time you missed out on some fun driving. E-pedal, eco mode, and even B mode instead of D (drive) softens the performance of the car SO MUCH I leave it all off and just love driving it
For drivers who actually use our great interstate highway system - the limited range on that Leaf would have them in a state of near constant range anxiety. That's a city/metro car.
This is a weird thing to say. I get range anxiety on petrol vehicles in unknown areas too. I even ran out of fuel on my motorbike before when I was told of a gas station nearby that turned out to be closed on Sundays. You need to plan ahead for road trips either way.
The Nissan Leafs show every available charging station near your current position on their maps (apparently), including where they are but also if they are in use. I haven't seen it in action but I have seen screenshots and read about it. I'd actually be more surprised if an EV car maker said they don't have such a thing built into their GPS map display. The same functionality is available as a phone app if you want to use it outside the car.
In Central / Eastern Canada, rapid charging stations are placed every 5-20 km along all major highways and can be found in most small towns. It's next to impossible to run out of juice unless you sleep through the whole drive and wake up with 15 km left (and would probably still be able to make it to the next station)
Using heat is probably a factor here. The heater pulls the same amps as a toaster oven. Need though to keep the windshiled clear and the driver more comfortable. Yet it should do better then this.
Not sure how. I didn't see it drop that much even in -25C (-13F) and with the heater on. For a 240km vehicle, I normally get around 180km on a truly cold winter day
I'll be honest the leaf was at the bottom of the list for me last year but in my province (state) the ev rebate was gonna get taken away ($14,000 CAD) and no other car manufacturer could deliver an ev to me before the rebate end date but Nissan could. Im so far overall very happy with the leaf and no battery issues so far but I really wish the infotainment system was better because it makes the leaf feel low tech.
How is the Leaf in 2023 doing? I’m really inclined to purchase one but after bad experiences with their gas vehicles (2018 Note and 2013 Pathfinder), I wonder if the leaf will be just as bad.
DIdn't talk about battery degradation? Only new EV to have 0 active thermal management system, this wasn't on my list because of that. I've lost .03% battery life in my car over 20k miles, I bet that leaf has lost way more! TMS works!
After 25K kilometres (14.5K miles), the maximum range on mine is 256 km (with the stated maximum of 240km). So, it's still better than the original claim
Our 40kwh Leaf after 3.5 years had 110% range. Great batteries. The SOH went from 96 to 90% according to Leaf spy which doesn't seem that accurate. Most EV owners only have GOM to base their degradation on like Tesla. My 10year old Leaf has 100% range according to the GOM even at 85% battery capacity.
Couldn't not notice the Czech license plate above your door! Are you Czech? By the way, I'm not sure about these "long term reviews" who buys a car for one year? Do a five year one...
Thanks for your review. I have had a 2014 Leaf for over 2 years now with the smallish 24kw battery pack and still wake up to a typical 72 mile range (new I think was 86) -- so, battery degradation is minimal, and, replacement battery packs are comparable in cost to many repairs on an ICE vehicle. I can do all my errands for most days under 30 miles. I charge w a "Juice Box" in my garage and never stand in inclimate weather to fuel -- It has never been in a shop for anything and is still "like new." At least for most peeps who have access to overnight charging -- a second car should be electric -- they are SUPERIOR to ICE vehicles in so many ways.
@@lautoka63 It depends on where you live. Some places are popping up that will do this service as well as give you a bigger battery if you had an older leaf. I think it was around $10K in America, but presumably the price will go down with time as batteries are getting cheaper every year.
@@lautoka63 I have heard of people finding a newer model that has been totaled and getting that battery. Some get double the range if their car is an old model. I don't know if they are all interchangeable or if you need to look for a certain year to replace yours.
Good review, had my Leaf for 15 months now and traveled over 25,000 miles. Only issue was a creaking wing mirror which got replace under warranty at the 18,000 mile service. Not sure why non-Leafers keep on about the battery, only Nissan gives you a way to monitor the battery, every other manufacturer (apart from perhaps Renault) relies on the estimated range display to interpolate how well the battery is doing. On that basis the estimated range when fully charged is about the same as when the car was new, so the battery is 100% healthy !
It is for 95% of all Americans if we look at the stats. With that said, Nissan now has 230-mile models (and the battery pack is backwards compatible, so in fact you can upgrade even a 2012 Leaf if you want to). They also reuse and/or recycle all their batteries
It's funny that a channel like this waited until a 40 kW or 150 mile EV was available to do a more in depth longer term review like a one year review but it's nice that they did and when it comes to the batteries on these cars it was only the very 1st original Nissan leafs with 24 kW packs that weren't called the lizard pack that really had major issues with battery degradation with the exception of people who live and exceptionally hot climates somebody who lives in a more moderate or temperate climate generally does not complain about a large amount of battery degradation some people has 70000 plus miles on these cars and have seen only a very slight battery degradation meaning in their daily driving habits they have seen their usable range go down from A 100 miles of usable range to about 9798 summer even still seeing 99 miles of usable range after putting around 70000 miles on their Nissan Leaf so especially people who live in colder climates because the cold actually does not cause these batteries to dager date it helps to preserve them so people who live in colder climates yes will they don't have the range for Winter driving they also during the Winter months don't notice it hurting their car is far is battery degradation as well as nissan has put enough of a barrier on the top and of the car that you cannot reach that charging to a 100% all the time and this car is not supposed to cause any major battery degradation it is supposed to cause a little bit of battery degradation but they say it's only supposed to cause about 2% battery degradation charging the vehicles to a 100% regularly all the time and that is over a 70000 mile. For 82% battery degradation because of charging the vehicle to a 100% and nissan recommends that you only run the car down to about 5% on occasion down to 1% if you find yourself in this situation or you need to get the extra mileage out of the battery or where you forgot to plug in to put some charge in the battery earlier when you meant to play again In fact when it comes to the 30 kW and bigger battery packs on the Nissan Leaf so that itself is a different chemistry that can stand up to higher temperatures and more life cycles itself as well as the fact that it adds that extra range to your vehicle if you were living with a 24 kW Nissan Leaf and that met your daily needs then a 30 Kilowatt leaf will definitely meet your daily driving needs cause those batteries need even higher temperatures to cross them to degrade from heating then the 24 kW packs even if it is a lizard pack 24 kill at Nissan Leaf And one thing that most people do not realize is you will be putting this car in at home to charge it and plugging it in for a long number of hours will put range back into the battery I run into people who are like that takes too long to charge and I tell them so you don't sleep then because you just plug it in at night at home when you're sleeping and it charges up.
Why would you need to pay to replace the battery? It's warrantied for 8 years 100,000 miles so literally no one has had to replace one yet from this model. And they are so simple and reliable, they will be fine. Our 7 year old LEAF battery is just fine.
@@pioneer7777777 He meant that you could replace the first-generation Leaf battery with the most recent battery pack (360 km / 230 miles), which would give you me a more than threefold increase in range.
IMAGINE A YEAR IN A MODEL 3. NO MENTION OF HOW MUCH IS COST IN ELECTRICITY FOR A YEAR. REVIEWERS MUST BE PAID WELL, THAT DRIVEWAY LOOKS LIKE IT'S ATTACHED TO AN ESTATE.
if you charge at home and it's about 12 cents a kilowatt hour that averages to about $4.80 for the 150 mile range. The average person drives 12,000 miles so you can discern that it is 0.032 cents per mile x 12,000 miles to a grand total of $384
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"We're struck by how easy and uneventful it was."
Sometimes no news is good news.
Compared to others' 20+min blah-blah, this one straight to the point, thx.
Nice short review. Still up to date 4 years later. Kudos
I live in France and have recently bought the 62 Kwh Leaf Tekna. I looked at all the alternatives. Tesla too expensive. VW ID3 unreliable. The Leaf has the experience and reliability.. Brilliant car.
The leaf is the Prius of the EV world. Got into the market early, not super fancy, but super-reliable and it just works.
Wow I thought I have given up on getting EV
I have a 2022 E+ Tekna as well. Best car you can buy for the price. The used market is crazy cheap. I will never be called cool when driving and that is fine by me :)
I HAVE A 2020 LEAF SV AND ONLY CHARGE IT ONCE A WK.I LOVE NOT BUYING GAS ANYMORE
I bought an ex-lease 2018 SV (240km range) model, and in six months, haven't had even 1 issue. I live just outside Vancouver BC, Canada, so it's not extremely cold, but still gets quite cold. I used the 110V adapter to charge at home for the first 2 months and judging by the rate, would take 32 hours to charge from zero. I did try a stage 3 charger twice, and it charged from 25% to 100% in 1 hour. After 2 months we had a home stage 2 charger installed. ($1100 CAN. for the charger, with a $495 rebate from BC Hydro ... the wiring and labour is about $300) ... now It charges from zero% to 100% in less than 6 hours, so you can run it down during the day, and it's 100% in the morning... and I have seen zero battery life loss as yet. (also, the warranty for this battery is 8 years.)
So far the charging at home has cost me $65 CAN. ...
675 kWh and 4100 Km .. or 0.0158¢ per Km .... (0.072¢ per mile)
My SUV was costing me about 15¢ per Km ... that's almost 100 times the savings!
The change to an EV is a no brainer ... and the planet is better for it!
Lastly, everything that was said on the video is absolutely true for ours ... except for 1 thing. The battery in mine in the cold (sub zero) loses about 12%, (not 50% like in the video) and much of that loss is due primarily to the heater ... the only discernible battery drop in these is due to heat and air conditioning ... nothing else seems to affect the battery loss (IE: radio, lights etc.) ... these are negligible.
My brother has the Tesla Model 3, and I much prefer the Leaf to his. It's ease of operation and simplicity makes driving a breeze ... I also feel it's more user friendly.
It's a fantastic vehicle!
We have a Japanese imported 2014 Nissan Leaf we brought it used in 2016, the only part that has ever failed is a cabin fan blower motor which I got the part of our local Nissan dealer and fitted it ourselves.
But yeah its a great cheap to buy and use and after 6 years the battery health is still at 83% when we brought it 4 years ago it was 91% so only 8% loss in 4 years is very impressive!
Does it make sense to install your own charging station in Vancouver? In Montreal and its close vicinity, there are about 1260 public stations meaning they're everywhere. How big is Vancouver's network?
After driving my 2014 Leaf for over 2 years in both hot and cold weather in Oklahoma, I see no reason for a liquid cooled battery management system -- I like the simplicity and performance of what I have -- don't need the extra complications of a pump, fluid, belts, gaskets, etc that can go wrong. When driving the Leaf in the same manner as one would drive an ICE vehicle, the Leaf passive battery management system is entirely satisfactory.
It's not required, but it should be in the newer models at least to alleviate the fear in new customers.
I agree 100% with you. I enjoy my 2021 Nissan LEAF SV PLUS. That was exactly what i told my wife that the less stuff in the car; then the less there is to repair/Cost Money.
There is an advantage to the LEAF's battery design: safety. I can imagine the Japanese designers of the first generation LEAF thinking, we should err on the side of safety. It might have killed the LEAF if an early one went up in flames due to a battery problem. So they made the battery as safe as possible knowing they were going to take a performance hit. Other EVs occasionally have battery fires, but I have not heard of a LEAF battery fire.
I am planning to replace my 2005 Honda Accord which is our second car and used as daily driver. I was not able to decide between Leaf and Bolt. Bolt specs are superior (higher range, liquid cooling, CCS charger I/F) and should be a no brainer. But I am still favoring Leaf because of my lack trust with Chevy and confidence on Nissan's Japanese design. I have not heard of any battery fires on Nissan Leaf. 150 mile range is more than enough for my daily usage which is around 20-25 miles. And Leaf is cheaper than Bolt with federal tax credit. Your comment really helped me.
That's probably because you live in a cold place. I don't think the battery will survive in 40C summers.
Agreed @ 4:00. That’s probably the only feature I don’t like about our 19 LEAF SL. The LKAS warning in our Acuras is more graceful.
I'm not sure if a single year is a good measurement of long term reliability. I'd imagine most cars should be able to run for a year with no problems if they're brand new, or is this not the case?
Not with ice cara
"New cars always drive great!"
This person has never driven a Dodge.
Well our Nissan Leaf is now 6 years old and its only had a cabin heater fan blower motor fail in which I got the part and fitted it myself. Its battery health is 83% which for such a so called junk battery is not to bad.
We brought it used in 2016 and since we have owned it has only lost 8% battery health in that 4 years.
3.5 years for me. Zero problems as in literally zero (fingers crossed, haha)
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I think battery degradation is a function of where you live. Michigan rarely gets hot so the Leaf battery probably has good life. If you live in the south, not so much.
As long as you stay in the city, these are great
It's fine for 90% of people's uses.
Our first EV is a 2015 Leaf and we had a 2019 Rogue for longer trips.After 1.5 years we sold the Rogue hardly ever drove it.
@@MHdollrevievs In the USA average person drive around 30 miles a day most could drive a fraction of that with better planning......it gets to the point of wondering why to own a vehicle that sits in the driveway/parking garage 23 hours a day.
Not really. It depends on where you live and what infrastructure you have, but in Central / Eastern Canada, you can go literally wherever you want. With a 360-370km (230 mile) range you will most likely need to stop every 3 hours or so anyway, so why not charge while you're at that. That is if you're travelling farther than your effective range (which, honestly, should happen maybe a couple of times a year for most people?)
@@Plisken65 The 30 miles is an old number from 2015 my further research show it is now up to 39!!! You would have to charge an old gen 1 Nissan Leaf every other day. I think for most areas in the USA 150mile range is plenty especially if there are fast chargers available. Everyone has a slow charger in their house it is called the 220 plug for the dryer :)
I wonder how the battery degradation is on the new leafs compared to the older models
I will let you know ive just brought one!
my leaf 2018 is at 15,000 Km (9300 miles). Owned the leaf for 1 year and no degradation that i can notice. This is a canadian car so not sure if the climate here since its cooler here, helps with less degradation.
@stan S Maybe I'm confused but I thought degradation was when the battery loses capacity permanently. In the winter I did notice loss in range but the range came back in summer.
@@gwina5665 The winter capacity loss is simply due to the temperature of the battery. The chemical reaction is restricted. That loss only persists as long as the temperature is low. The permanent capacity loss is caused by the age of the battery, driving usage, fast charging and extreme levels of discharge / charge. You minimize it by keeping the charge above 20% and below 95% (or minimizing the time the battery is in these states).
The original Leaf had NO cooling so the batteries overheated & dropped to 70% capacity in hot states (Arizona, Southern California). It was permanent damage, so the owners demanded a buyback of their cars. The Gen2 Leaf still lacks liquid cooling to prevent battery overheating
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I live in Sweden and have had the 40 KW version for two years. If there was a 50% drop in range in cold weather I would have seen it. Not sure what is wrong with his battery. Worst case for me is about 120 miles of range on a very cold day, more if I take the back roads.
No review on battery life. Any difference in range after one year. Any issues with the car in one year ? Nothing more than an unboxing video ......
Need to put more into your videos
@captain pugwash WHEN CAN YOU START AT ROADSHOW?
They likely experienced no degradation of note, so skipped over that. Also, they said no issues in the year they drove it. It's a long term review but the car was just so reliable it did not give them much to cover in terms of issues.
So, for me after 25k km (14k miles) driving in hot and extreme cold conditions in Canada, the battery still has a 256 km range in the summer vs the 240 km range Nissan claims, so it's still above the original estimate.
Still dislike the air-cooled battery pack, which no one refuses to mention. Coupled with Nissan's history of reluctance to honor battery pack warentees, (see people of CA/AZ vs Nissan), THEN NO THANK YOU!! Even Chevy uses liquid cooled battery packs.
LOOKS JAPANESE BUT SMELLS OF FRENCH COST CUTTING!
kai zen I’m in so cal. I ended up getting a volt because it has liquid cooling and a lot of bad story’s about the air cooling in hot areas like so cal and Phoenix.
But this new model would like to see a better review. And see how it compares to the older model.
The original Leaf didn't have a battery warranty (going back to 2010 now), a 5 year battery warranty was introduced for the 24kwh Leaf following some complaints from CA/AZ, increasing to 8 years for the 30kwh, 40kwh and now 62kwh Leafs.
The Leaf was and is designed in Japan and built in Japan, UK and US (no French Connection for the Leaf).
Wtf do u know
I live in Phoenix and wonder what driving in over and near 100 degree weather half the year will do. If this will fry the battery and I have to send it to a dealer for a week for a repair (thats assuming I have a warranty) this changes things a bit.
Here in Ontario Canada.. $15000 to replace battery. No thanks
My Leaf is seven months old. In the UK, the last couple of months have seen temperatures of under five degrees Celsius. The normal range of my Leaf is 168 miles but in these temperatures, I been getting around 130 miles. the eco mode does nothing to improve efficiency and the e-pedal decreases efficiency from 5+ m/kwh to around 4.5m/kwh. I do all charging at home and it costs around 2p per mile. The average ICE car would be approximately seven times that.
I like the slightly off looks
This video convinced me to buy a 2023 base model as a cheap electric replacement for my 2020 nissan versa
I have to get my axle greased every 6 month on my 2019 40kwhr Leaf. Planning on getting rid of it next year for an AWD EV. Also 10% Battery degradation in 24 months @ 32,000 miles.
Where do you live. That is crazy. I have had mine 2 years and no battery degradation.
Do you use a lot of public charging stations. I ask because I only have one time and wound up losing 12 miles of range. I did have problems AFTER using the charge point so, I can't blame that for the loss, but it seems funny the one and only time I use one and my range drops.
Wonderful video no nonsense❤
A full charge range of as low as 72 miles is all I need to hear
Thats crazy low, he said subzero so if it doesnt get down to -10f theres no problem, i see people drive this in 10f weather and get 120 miles outta it. He also didnt leave it in his garage plugged in, had he of, he wouldnt of lost much range at all.
I drove the car 500 miles. Its a great road trip car but I had the plus to drive. I dunno why people keep saying that its not true all EV's you can road trip.
It depends on where you live and where you are going. The US has a lot of dead spots that don't have the Chademo fast charger. It can make road trips a headache, especially if there is an issue with the charger when you get the as some stations have only one. With research and back up plans, it can be done. Most don't recommend fast charging more than twice a day as the third charge will likely be slow due to the temperature of the battery.
Waiting on Nissans SUV version of an EV. I’m tire between the Leaf & i3
Forget i3 its pain in the ass
I want a NON-SUV model. The electric motors have the get up and go, give me a sports car. A good midlife crisis car. Please Nissan how about a 290-E based on the 280-Z
do u have to get special plug to plug into ac power? how does it take hills?
thanks
No. Not needed
Good review...thanks :)
If you left e-pedal on all the time you missed out on some fun driving. E-pedal, eco mode, and even B mode instead of D (drive) softens the performance of the car SO MUCH I leave it all off and just love driving it
Just got this thing for $19/month on a 24 month lease. Unreal.
For drivers who actually use our great interstate highway system - the limited range on that Leaf would have them in a state of near constant range anxiety. That's a city/metro car.
@captain pugwash I get it. For your known repeating trip - you've got it down. Are the chargers always available when you need them?
This is a weird thing to say. I get range anxiety on petrol vehicles in unknown areas too. I even ran out of fuel on my motorbike before when I was told of a gas station nearby that turned out to be closed on Sundays. You need to plan ahead for road trips either way.
The Nissan Leafs show every available charging station near your current position on their maps (apparently), including where they are but also if they are in use. I haven't seen it in action but I have seen screenshots and read about it. I'd actually be more surprised if an EV car maker said they don't have such a thing built into their GPS map display. The same functionality is available as a phone app if you want to use it outside the car.
It's great as the second car in a two car household. Or two of three cars in a three car household. Only drive the gas car for trips out of town.
In Central / Eastern Canada, rapid charging stations are placed every 5-20 km along all major highways and can be found in most small towns. It's next to impossible to run out of juice unless you sleep through the whole drive and wake up with 15 km left (and would probably still be able to make it to the next station)
It's not available in where I live 😅
At 0:50 that's a pretty bad way to merge onto highway.
Wait- it’s range was cut in HALF on cold days??
Using heat is probably a factor here.
The heater pulls the same amps as a toaster oven.
Need though to keep the windshiled clear and the driver more comfortable.
Yet it should do better then this.
Not sure how. I didn't see it drop that much even in -25C (-13F) and with the heater on. For a 240km vehicle, I normally get around 180km on a truly cold winter day
Goes out to buy a pack of smokes, takes the EV to heal any feeling of guilt...
Where do they make these Leaf cars for the North American market?
Tennessee
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I'll be honest the leaf was at the bottom of the list for me last year but in my province (state) the ev rebate was gonna get taken away ($14,000 CAD) and no other car manufacturer could deliver an ev to me before the rebate end date but Nissan could.
Im so far overall very happy with the leaf and no battery issues so far but I really wish the infotainment system was better because it makes the leaf feel low tech.
How is the Leaf in 2023 doing?
I’m really inclined to purchase one but after bad experiences with their gas vehicles (2018 Note and 2013 Pathfinder), I wonder if the leaf will be just as bad.
DIdn't talk about battery degradation? Only new EV to have 0 active thermal management system, this wasn't on my list because of that. I've lost .03% battery life in my car over 20k miles, I bet that leaf has lost way more! TMS works!
After 25K kilometres (14.5K miles), the maximum range on mine is 256 km (with the stated maximum of 240km). So, it's still better than the original claim
Wow, your battery is at 99.97% state of health after 20K miles. That's impressive.
Our 40kwh Leaf after 3.5 years had 110% range. Great batteries. The SOH went from 96 to 90% according to Leaf spy which doesn't seem that accurate. Most EV owners only have GOM to base their degradation on like Tesla. My 10year old Leaf has 100% range according to the GOM even at 85% battery capacity.
Toyota should of make the sienna hybrid but maybe someday. I want to yank the leaf motor controller battery and transplant it on my sienna.
Poj Dia Vaj mini can ALOT more heavier obviously. Probably poor range and acceleration
That is my next car!
I’m an EV technician and thinking of buying a used leaf
Couldn't not notice the Czech license plate above your door! Are you Czech? By the way, I'm not sure about these "long term reviews" who buys a car for one year? Do a five year one...
Yes cause they want to wait 5 years to do a review
It's been fives years@@bobbyshoeman4072
Thanks for your review. I have had a 2014 Leaf for over 2 years now with the smallish 24kw battery pack and still wake up to a typical 72 mile range (new I think was 86) -- so, battery degradation is minimal, and, replacement battery packs are comparable in cost to many repairs on an ICE vehicle. I can do all my errands for most days under 30 miles. I charge w a "Juice Box" in my garage and never stand in inclimate weather to fuel -- It has never been in a shop for anything and is still "like new." At least for most peeps who have access to overnight charging -- a second car should be electric -- they are SUPERIOR to ICE vehicles in so many ways.
I didn't realise that replacement battery packs were available: are they expensive?
@@lautoka63 It depends on where you live. Some places are popping up that will do this service as well as give you a bigger battery if you had an older leaf. I think it was around $10K in America, but presumably the price will go down with time as batteries are getting cheaper every year.
@@lautoka63 I have heard of people finding a newer model that has been totaled and getting that battery. Some get double the range if their car is an old model. I don't know if they are all interchangeable or if you need to look for a certain year to replace yours.
Good review, had my Leaf for 15 months now and traveled over 25,000 miles. Only issue was a creaking wing mirror which got replace under warranty at the 18,000 mile service. Not sure why non-Leafers keep on about the battery, only Nissan gives you a way to monitor the battery, every other manufacturer (apart from perhaps Renault) relies on the estimated range display to interpolate how well the battery is doing. On that basis the estimated range when fully charged is about the same as when the car was new, so the battery is 100% healthy !
Leaf Babe it’s not the only one. What world do you live in?
@@sacatolasmoreira5593 Planet Earth! What electric car do you drive and how does it inform the driver of the battery's health??
150 miles isn’t a lot for an EV these days.
more than enough to go to work and back
It is for 95% of all Americans if we look at the stats. With that said, Nissan now has 230-mile models (and the battery pack is backwards compatible, so in fact you can upgrade even a 2012 Leaf if you want to). They also reuse and/or recycle all their batteries
@@Limemill It depends on your needs. I personally would be more comfortable with 200 miles + of range.
@@CameronEly The 230-mile Nissan these days costs less than the 150-mile one three years ago, so this is good news
About the same as an older Tesla with 30% degradation.
i'll join when there is a Wagon in the USA.
-20c and it doesn’t drop much. Gonna guess you didn’t preheat or something is up with yours …
It's funny that a channel like this waited until a 40 kW or 150 mile EV was available to do a more in depth longer term review like a one year review but it's nice that they did and when it comes to the batteries on these cars it was only the very 1st original Nissan leafs with 24 kW packs that weren't called the lizard pack that really had major issues with battery degradation with the exception of people who live and exceptionally hot climates somebody who lives in a more moderate or temperate climate generally does not complain about a large amount of battery degradation some people has 70000 plus miles on these cars and have seen only a very slight battery degradation meaning in their daily driving habits they have seen their usable range go down from A 100 miles of usable range to about 9798 summer even still seeing 99 miles of usable range after putting around 70000 miles on their Nissan Leaf so especially people who live in colder climates because the cold actually does not cause these batteries to dager date it helps to preserve them so people who live in colder climates yes will they don't have the range for Winter driving they also during the Winter months don't notice it hurting their car is far is battery degradation as well as nissan has put enough of a barrier on the top and of the car that you cannot reach that charging to a 100% all the time and this car is not supposed to cause any major battery degradation it is supposed to cause a little bit of battery degradation but they say it's only supposed to cause about 2% battery degradation charging the vehicles to a 100% regularly all the time and that is over a 70000 mile. For 82% battery degradation because of charging the vehicle to a 100% and nissan recommends that you only run the car down to about 5% on occasion down to 1% if you find yourself in this situation or you need to get the extra mileage out of the battery or where you forgot to plug in to put some charge in the battery earlier when you meant to play again In fact when it comes to the 30 kW and bigger battery packs on the Nissan Leaf so that itself is a different chemistry that can stand up to higher temperatures and more life cycles itself as well as the fact that it adds that extra range to your vehicle if you were living with a 24 kW Nissan Leaf and that met your daily needs then a 30 Kilowatt leaf will definitely meet your daily driving needs cause those batteries need even higher temperatures to cross them to degrade from heating then the 24 kW packs even if it is a lizard pack 24 kill at Nissan Leaf And one thing that most people do not realize is you will be putting this car in at home to charge it and plugging it in for a long number of hours will put range back into the battery I run into people who are like that takes too long to charge and I tell them so you don't sleep then because you just plug it in at night at home when you're sleeping and it charges up.
Seriously? My lungs aren't big enough to read this on a single breath.
Holy runon sentence Batman!
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Are you a bot? Wth
Here in Ontario Canada.. $15000 to replace battery. No thanks
Why would you need to pay to replace the battery? It's warrantied for 8 years 100,000 miles so literally no one has had to replace one yet from this model. And they are so simple and reliable, they will be fine. Our 7 year old LEAF battery is just fine.
@@pioneer7777777 He meant that you could replace the first-generation Leaf battery with the most recent battery pack (360 km / 230 miles), which would give you me a more than threefold increase in range.
what about BATTERY MANAGEMENT the leaf has none that why its so BAD in cold and hot weather !
They fixed the rapidgate issue with a software update. As for cold, yeah, the range temporarily goes down 5%-25% depending on the temperature outside.
Adapt to you as it should
I had a 2015 leaf the battery sucks in the winter time, sold it and got a 85d model s.
Said one who has tesla as username lol
How's that 85D working out for you. Still have it.
Does your 85D still work?
When your battery life is over they will not sell you new one
Nissan will not sell you a battery, correct. But they will gladly replace the battery if that is what you want.
Ummmm Leaf Spy results?
IMAGINE A YEAR IN A MODEL 3. NO MENTION OF HOW MUCH IS COST IN ELECTRICITY FOR A YEAR.
REVIEWERS MUST BE PAID WELL, THAT DRIVEWAY LOOKS LIKE IT'S ATTACHED TO AN ESTATE.
if you charge at home and it's about 12 cents a kilowatt hour that averages to about $4.80 for the 150 mile range. The average person drives 12,000 miles so you can discern that it is 0.032 cents per mile x 12,000 miles to a grand total of $384
You need to paint the walls in your garage. Otherwise the drtwall will deteriorate
Does he talk like that naturally?
saddly he probably does
I had a friend who took drama classes and would regularly talk like a game show host, I told her just to text me if she wanted to talk lol
It’s nIsan…..NOT NEESAN…….
Have one for my better half, no better choice as mum's taxi.
Range is the biggest problem for me. Once they get up to 600+ mile range per charge we'll see many people switching from ICE
600+ mile range? Isn’t that double what the average gas-powered car can do?
That’s asking a lot.
who tf is this guy!!😂😂😂😂😂🏌️
That 400k number you are citing include nearly 300k in fleet sales so yeah, not in anyone's driveway. Nice try though on your agenda push
Lol, what fleets are you talking about that have Nissan LEAF's?
That’s global sales. And you’re correct. There’s no Leaf in my driveway. It’s in my garage.
I never heard of any Nissan Leaf fleet sales. Where did you hear that?
No thanks