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1st pick who you got Larry Bird or Michael Jordan?? 🤔
Larry Joe
Jordan. LOL
Bird, no question.
Obviously you want them both but Bird can play with anyone. High school and college he had to carry his team and did. Celtics his first chmpionship team was pretty different from his second and third. He had some great teammates but they all loved to play with him.
Jordan didn't win until he got Scottie although he is probably the greatest individual player of all time. So I want Bird.
I got to take Larry, his off ball play, iq, mental toughness and hustle were just unreal. His ability to make his teammates better was priceless.
Larry Bird will FOREVER be my first pick. Ultimate team player, most complete player EVER, & Mr CLUTCH. You can’t ask more of any player, has the most to offer to the team.
Same here..Larry Bird is my pick. He was the best
MJ is my number one, but Larry is number two. If he be little more healther and little muscular - this is equal player with MJ
He had bone spurs on both ankles that were embedded into his Achilles tendons. After 6 games of the 1989 season Bird had surgery on both heels. His stats when he came back in 1990 season are impressive.
You must been reading my comments on fb talking about this 😂
Bird at 60 years old would still be the guy who shot for my life, the bigger the moment the better he got and the more he wanted it.
Larry Bird created the biggest turnaround in NBA history at the time when he joined the Celtics. They went from a 20-win team to a 60-win team in his ROOKIE YEAR! They won a championship in his second year. Of course he did the same thing for the Sycamores in College. Bird may be the greatest
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@@AntHenderson2 sorry big guy. Lol I edited the post. Please look again. Love your channel and posture check!!
Haha all good just wanted to mess with ya but I appreciate the support! 💙
@@AntHenderson2 I love your channel and I am a huge fan!
@@AntHenderson2 go back and give him his heart on the main comment.... we lose those if we edit.... 😁
@9:00 you ask “what’s on his neck?” Yes, that was blood. Those were scratch marks. Larry was a constant target. It’s a good thing he was tough as nails. He obviously HAD TO BE.
In those days, you couldn't double a guy until the man had the basketball. That's why MJ had to wait until he helped Pippen with the double team
I was going to post that. Good post, to double before Bird ha the ball would have been called an illegal defense.
What's up Hen....just a fun fact. The Paxson that you saw for the Celtics was Jim Paxson. The one that you saw for the Bulls was John Paxson, his little brother. Both were good role players. I think Jim averaged 18 pts a game for the Blazers one year, but for the Celts he was a run all day, catch and shoot guy.
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Shovelling gravel in 1985, while building his mother's driveway is what originally took down his back. After he played six games in 1988 he went out for a double Achilles surgery. Achilles surgery on one foot generally would end a career. He had it on both feet, and was still an All-Star. Check out his numbers in his last three seasons. It's pretty wild
You might also note that the year bird was out was the only year of his career that the Celtics struggled. They were 42-40 in the 8 seed. When Bird first entered the league, joining the 29 win Celtics, the Celtics won 61, 62, and 63 games in Birds first three seasons. In 1983 they won 56 while Philadelphia was winning their division with 65. Then, Boston won 62, 63, 67, 59, 57. (88-89 was next, 42 wins with bird out). Bird came back from the double Achilles surgery and leads the C's to 52, 56, 51 wins before retiring.
The year that he was out for that surgery is the only year that he was not an all star. He also made all NBA 10 times, which means that he made it once after that those foot surgeries...
Broken ankle in highschool basketball practice. Broken fingers pinned to straighten but still was not fixed, check his hands . As said it became like a boomerang angled fingers this was during baseball game that was after Celtics draft and before signing the contract with the Celtics.
... Larry made his team a good team
Walton protecting the rim, as best he could. I don't remember seeing him man to man on Jordan. As Coop said, Bird did so many things extremely well, off the ball, and with the ball, and many weren't, necessarily in his stats. He was more fun to watch than The Globe Trotters, but was as serious as a heart attack about winning.
I’ve always believed Larry Bird was the greatest all around player of all time because he could do everything at a high level.
He also is one of the greatest at making his teammates better
The Celtics were stacked but Jordan had some help in the 80s. Ron Brewer, Charles Oakley, John Paxson, Orlando Woolridge, and George Gervin.
Lol those guys dont compare, orlando never lived up to expectations cause drug abuse, oakley was a good defender but not a good scorer, paxon and brewer and gervin were role players on the bulls and not hof talent like parish, mchale, dennis, ainge and the guys bird played with in his rookie season (cowens, nate archibald, marivich, list goes on).
Jordan got help when pippen and horace got drafted and the team get better players in the late 80s but by then celtics were not a title contender anymore. Jordan came into the league in birds last prime years.
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Maybe if Jordan didn’t hog the ball so much the team might have fulfilled their potential a bit more. 🙄
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Also, Brokeback Bird STILL outclassed Jordan AND Pippen. 🤷♀️
@@irishgrl im guessing you didnt watch those games, jordan would pass alot but his teammates would either blow the shot or barely make it, they just didnt have the better talent than the great teams like bucks, celtics, late 80s pistons. There was an interview where jordan said the white guys on his team work hard but dont have talent and the black guys have talent but dont work hard. Its clear to see he was a volume shooter cause he gave up on trying to always pass to his teammates when he felt he had a better chance of scoring if he had thw ball. Its the same with kobe when shaq and most of his great teammates left in 04. Point being you can only work with what you got.
Larry hurt His back in 85 but the Years of playing His back just kept getting worse. He did kinda made it worse because He would still Hurt it over & over doing Hard Manul Jobs Himself. Also the way He played did a bad # on His back, all the driving & falling hard on the floor. They were both great players I just think Larry did it all more & the #'s show that.
Larry came into the league dominating. He took the 2nd worst team in the league and turned them around 1st season in the league.
Larry had bone spurs he had to have ground off of his feet in '89 and missed the whole season. He hurt his back shoveling gravel prepping for his mom's driveway to be paved. That was during the offseason in '85. #BirdGang
The move at 16:20 is why Bird is the GOAT - even over MJ. He was so good at every facet of the game that defenders didn't know what to do. With MJ, you know you just have to play D - no thought involved.
Just informationally:
From Essentially Sports:
"And Celtic legend Kevin McHale, who was part of those teams, talked about how Jordan was different from Bird and Magic. He says, "Here's the difference between those three, and I saw it many, many times. Larry and Magic could control the game by taking 10 shots. They'd have 17 points, 15 rebounds, 12 assists, 4 steals."
"If you got Michael Jordan to take 10 shots, you control him".
That’s gonna trigger a lot of Jordanairs 😂
I mean... I saw McHale say that, but aside from injuring him out of a game with flagrants, in reality how many times did teams hold MJ to 10 shots in reality? LOL. I mean it sounds like a good quote but when you break it down it's like "Well but does it mean anything in reality?" Teams really couldn't lock down Jordan like that.
I compare it to the phrase "You want to have your cake and eat it too." It's like... well what's the point of having cake if you don't eat it? Dumb saying.
Steph Curry's a great shooter but if your life is on the line Bird is more clutch than Steph.
Having that many great players in the NBA then made everyone better
For all the greatness and accolades of Jordan he could never get past Bird in the postseason and went 0-6. Bird dominated him. It was only after Bird retired after the '91-92 season that Jordan and the Bulls went on their dynasty run in the 90's. But Bird IMO was the true G.O.A.T. and was the most complete basketball player ever. His basketball I.Q., mental toughness and killer instinct on the court was off the charts. His shooting and passing was other-worldly. As mentioned he was the true G.O.A.T. Jordan is a close second and both are on my All-Time starting 5 which is as automatic as breathing..
Great video and comments. It’s hard to compare greats. They were both in the top 10. What would have happened if bird was not injured and Jordan was more seasoned? Who knows
Another great reaction. 👏
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Bird was the smartest man to ever play the game. I can say that without a doubt. And he had incredible talent and awareness
Both incredible... Bird highlights are insane.. most skilled all around player ever... Jordan most athletic gifted, competitive player ever... Jordan ... Magic .. Bird... then add anyone else... they win 10 championship if healthy. Most talented competitive cold-hearted players ever..
🍀I am 42 now, so i lived through the 1988 season! I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT JORDAN STAT EITHER!😳🍀 Wow💥 All the Titles... And your right! I'm taking STEPH to save my life!😂 But remember, when Pat Riley said that... Steph may have been 1 or 2yrs old! Back then.. We go Larry For Life!😁🍀 #BirdGang
I love both players(I think Jordan is the best player of all time and Larry the greatest if you feel the difference) and am not a huge fan of Isaiah but that conversation was about the 80s and truth be told in the 80s Jordan was indeed a non factor. Yes his talent and skill was undisputed but as he himself said one man cannot beat the Celtics(or Lakers, or 76ers or Pistons). Also to the point of not winning a championship in his first 6 years well Magic won it in his first and Larry in his second XD, but then again the 80s were a crazy ear with historic talent. Anyway great reaction man, keep up the good work!
bird won a ring in his second year with no hall of fame help...rookie of the year..took Celtics from worst to first as a rookie and ring in year 2...bird was a bad,bad man...
In those days you couldn't double team before the guy had the ball.
Dang never knew that
@@AntHenderson2 those were the good old days when basketball was a lot tougher game. 🏀
Me personally I feel like that would make it easier to score tho right? A lot of times it will be too late once a superstar already has the ball in their hands
Yep. Zone defenses were illegal and the rule was that you could only double a guy with the ball. Yeah, theoretically, that could make scoring easier, but I think the difference in other rules and the way the game was refereed made it harder to score. That's one thing that Jordan should always get credit for -- he could still average 35 while getting the hell beat out of him until the league started limiting the physicalness of the game.
These men had great respect for each other, and their game😊
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Everyone says Isaiah is a hater but he spoke the TRUTH. Also, Isaiah has MJ in his top 5. I’d hardly call that a hater.
Not everyone has to worship at the shrine of Michael Jordan.
Putting my life on the line ... Bird 🐦 getting it!
‘86 Celtics VS ‘96 Bulls
One of the first things I’m gonna do if I go to Heaven is these 2 teams are playing best of 7.
Larry B, by far the best all round player to ever play the game !!
I like that this guy gives Jordan his due. Also, Magic won a championship his rookie year; Bird won one in his second year. He turned the Celtics from a 29 win team into a 61 win team all by himself. TheBullswere 28-54 the year before Jordan. They were 38-44 his rookie year, 30-52 his second year and 40-42. his third year. Pippen came in and the Bulls went 50-32. Also, you couldnt double team a player back then until they had the ball. Thats why the narrator says"You can now."
Bird won his first championship in his second year! It would be difficult to find another player who created such a dramatic turnaround in just his second year!
Michael is the goat, but growling up watching them both man Bird just seemed to will his teams to be winner's. Hard to explain but man it was awesome to witness
Nothing to sneeze at. Jordan had 54 in regulation and 63 after double overtime.
Larry Legend won a championship his second year in the league, no excuses Larry Legend 🐐☘️
Anyone saying it’s only because Celtics had Bill Walton , McHale , Parish and Dennis James and the only reason Celtics won are tripping 😂😂😂😂😂 Larry Legend is the Goat.
Larry Bird had double Achilles surgery when missed all but the 6 games that year.
Bird was winning championships in his first few years in the league 1981 and 1984
It kind of indicates why Isaiah Thomas wasn't on the 1992 American dream team in the Olympics
Jordan wasn’t the only one who didn’t want him.
Bro this is the one ot your best videos ever!
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Great job reacting Hendawg!! When it comes to sports reactions you my guy!! I love how open and respectful you are to the greats from years past. You always make very insightful points and definitely have a lot of hoops knowledge for a young buck! I’ve been watching ball since 1979 and the 5 greatest players I’ve ever seen personally are Jordan-Bird-Lebron-Magic-Kareem
Thanks for the support 💙
86 Bulls MJ, Charles Oakley, John Paxson, Sedale Threatt, Earl Cureton...
The posture is important...Thanks!!!!
We were so luckily in the 80’s 4 🐐 contenders almost a starting lineup Magic, MJ, Bird & Kareem. Then Ring winners Isiah Thomas, Dr J, Moses Malone & Hakeem for nearly a 2nd roster. Add in Barkley, Dominique the human highlight reel and it was great basketball.
First off from deep you are 100% correct. Steph is the best I’ve ever seen and there are a few more I’d put ahead of Bird but from anywhere on the floor and especially in a clutch situation I’ve never seen or heard of anyone better.
I'll tell you why Thomas now dislikes MJ, MJ did not let him on the Dream Team. I watched EVERY televised game of Bird and MJ simply could not beat Bird and the Green Machine! Scoring is nice, but that an individual thing, winning is a team thing and Bird could do it better than anyone in the NBA. He was so unselfish. It was believed, if Bird took all the shots he thought he could make, his average game would definitely be in the 40's and so, so many more triple-doubles, no doubt. He watered down his talent for the team and the win. Bottom line, how can a slow, semi-athletic player be so very great compared to such an elite athletic player, simply outsmarted them all and was gifted with his hands and mind. So, pound for pound Bird is the NBA GOAT.
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IDK about that Larry led the C's to a ring his 2nd year in the league. This is after taking a roster from 29 wins to 61 wins his rookie year with the exact same roster plus himself..One guy can do it if he is the right guy....Larry was that guy that made everyone better because he was an all around player. It took Jordan a few years to develop from a raw scorer
His neck was bleeding. I remember that game well. They were brutal on each other physically
My starting 5....Stockton, Malone, MJ, Bird, Kareem.
listen to the comms. "they want to double, but they can't double yet"
Bird came into a Celtics Team in 1979 that was worse than the Bulls team the Michael came into in 84. Bird turned the Celtics team into Champions in 2 years and made good players into great players along the way. Michael took 7 years to win his first ring AND could do nothing until Pippen, Cartwright, Paxon and Grant arrived.
It makes him Larry "LEGEND"
Larry Legend taking that shot 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
There will never be a more physically gifted basketball player than Jordan but Bird is one of the best all 'round players ever.
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Larry Bird was amazing! The Celtics were amazing. MJ is far and above the best player ever. He just didn’t have any decent players or coach there with him yet. He got two key sidekicks and a coach then destroyed everyone for almost a decade.
Kinda interesting topic, because Worthy was the KEY to the Lakers speed-up. They'd slow it down, slow it down, slow it down.... and then explode and score 15-20 points in a few minutes. Fuck with yo HAID....
Love 23 too. BIrds 🐐
Thanks for sharing this video. I have Jordan as my #1 and Kareem as my #2 and after that it gets difficult due to so many good players and so many variables. If you are asking which player I would build a team around I have to give the edge to Bird. I feel Bird can blend his skills to fit with the other 4 players and raise the level of play for the team more so than maybe any other player? Look at what Bird did at Indiana State. Bird did not have to have the ball in his hands to dominate the game. His hustle and IQ and passing and rebounding and shooting present multiple problems to defend. Bird did have a better team than Jordan in Jordan's early years but I feel if you gave each player 4 identical twins with equal skills, Bird would find a way to get his team to win the game. Bird led by example ( see Robert Parish about leadership skills on both) and understood the dynamics of the 5 on 5 game and players strength and weaknesses and tendencies. Bird never got into fistfights or screamed at his teammates in practice. I see top ten lists today where Bird is at or near the bottom, and his skillset ( Bird was a good defender early in his career) and his 50-40-90 shooting have to put him into the top 5 discussion IMO.
Larry to save my life. No questions.
Ill keep saying larry joe bird should be a top 5 player all time and not a top 7 all time he was so cold he was a cold killer before jordan became one he was the king of trash talking before jordan became one i get jordan is the goat but larry should be up there by being in the top 5 all time
There was Paxson brothers Jim and John.
Jim played for ☘️
John for CHI
Gotta love the Chief.
larry bird was and is the greatest player to ever play the game hands down nobody close !!!!!!!!!!!
James worthy actually said “ I’d much rather GUARD Micheal Jordan . . ., not “play”
Anyway, I always enjoy your videos ! You seem like a good dude.
Isiah Thomas was probably angry at MJ for keeping him out of The Dream Team in ‘92. It’s been said that MJ wouldn’t commit to the Team until he was sure that Thomas wasn’t on it.
before Curry, I'd choose Bird, Bird couldn't even miss when he was messing around...but even Larry was in awe at Curry who shot 97-100 3ptrs in practice including 70something in a row....that is straight up alien...best pure shooter ever...has to be
Jordan kept Thomas off the dream team
He was the spokesman, there were others. 🤫
I'd pick Larry Bird to take the shot to save my life!
All basketball say they are taller than they really are. Larry Bird was really 6'10" instead of 6'9". When players met Bird, they always said that Bird was taller than they thought he would be!
Bird and Magic won titles quickly
Bird all day and every day!!
In 87 the Celtics were very injured. I can understand Jordan losing to the 86 Celtics but a nineteen eighty-seven to get swept again it causes a person to scratch their head. But you must understand the main reason why the Celtics winning it's because of Larry Bird's effect on his teammates.
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Great video. I like your channel. Although I consider MJ the best player I have seen, I will pick Larry Bird.
Thanks for the support 💯
If it's any kind of shot to save my life, I'm taking Dirk.
With the words of Kevin McHale: "I'll take big skilled over short skilled any day".
Larry Legend super star 🐐
I think they waited until a near shooting motion from bird to double as they know how much he liked to just dump it off on the now-open man in that situation.
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Larry Legend is the Goat 🐐
If memory serves me right, Isaiah was originally from Chicago. And Jordan was in the league 2 years or a year after Isaiah, so he was getting a little upset that he was not getting any recognition. Everything was about Jordan and Isaiah felt he was the better player. That’s why he was the main person to come up with the “Jordan rules” in order to contain him and win games.
Larry Bird had one of the greatest NBA teams when Jordan was starting out. And people say that Larry schooled Jordan in trash talking, so Jordan learned a lot from Larry and Magic. Clearly Jordan couldn’t compete against a build team like the Celtics. But I think because of these battles, he was able to beat the bad boy Pistons and their dirty plays.
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Alot of people sat Isaih Thomas just had a vendetta against Jordan. Can't recall why, they say Isaih does.
I’m the biggest Larry Bird fan ever, but … if the #2 seed 1991 Celtics hadn’t choked and lost in 6 games to the Pistons in the eastern conference semis … there is no doubt in my mind that the eventual champion Bulls would’ve beaten the Celtics in the Eastern conference finals in the next round.
I am forever saddened that we got robbed of that series, especially since the Pistons went on to be swept by Chicago in 4 games and then infamously walked off without shaking the Bulls’ hands.
I mean, Isiah has a legit reason for not liking MJ:the two franchises hated each other, they always went at each other's throat.
Also, MJ basically said that he wouldn't join the Dream Team if Thomas got in too. That alone would explain a lifelong grudge.
Also to Thomas' argument for the 80's: Yes, those were "just" 6 years, but it's almost half as many as he played in total (14, 15 if we count the 17 games in '94-'95).
Spitting facts is not hating!
I think you misunderstood Pat Riley's quote. He was talking about clutch shooting. No player to this day equal Larry Bird.
I took very because he's a team player always spread the wealth let this team and with clutcher
Jim Paxson played for the Celtics..the brother of John
Larry Legend 🐐🐐☘️☘️👍🐐 33
People keep saying Bird had a better team. Funny thing it, it's the same team that won 20 games the year before Bird got there. Bird added 40 wins in his rookie year and won tittle in his 2nd year. Let that sink in. Same team, 3x the wins. The only reason Bird had a better team was because he made them better. That's what makes Bird the goat. MJ didn't do anything until Bird, Magic and Kareem were gone.
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I think MJ is the goat. But I’d still pick Larry first cause he made everyone better. MJ as a sole player was just crazy talented but Larry’s IQ was just light years ahead of the rest so he could change the dynamic of the game and team simply by his presence. Hated watching them play each other though cause I was a big MJ fan growing up 😅
Isiah Thomas is a great player and I agree that he is a Micheal Jordan hater. I am going to be honest, I like that there is a hater because it brings more discussion on the topic of Michael Jordan, to not become a circle jerk. Michael Jordan is one of the greatest players in the 90's and he was an entertainment, though I am not going to deny that he had difficulties when he started against Lakers, Celtics, Pistons, etc.
Isiah Thomas hated him because of how Michael Jordan treated him, as Jordan has repeatedly been openly loath Thomas and even told him not be on the Dream Team 1992 and there are more reasons, which both were somewhat at fault. I like Isiah Thomas and the Bad Boy Pistons because they subverted everyone's expectations and challenged the Status Quo of Celtic v. Lakers and even pushed the Bulls, as people also expected the Bulls to break the old rivalry team, but it was the Pistons, which may have surprised many.
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@@AntHenderson2 Another reason was the Walkout in '91 Eastern Conference Final, as Thomas and the Bad Boys didn't shake hand with Jordan's Bull, which Jordan took it personally. Makes sense, though this wasn't original, as Larry Bird and some players, years back, did the Walkout on Isiah Thomas and the Piston. The tension was built for years from the game and after retirement, despite Jordan and Thomas admitting each other's worth.
i'm a big Larry Bird fan, but I wouldn't know / play basketball if it is not because of Michael Jordan, MJ made the NBA GLOBAL! so yeah.....he could be the G.O.A.T
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Bird my first pick❤
BTW, if you double before he has the ball, it is an illegal defense
Where people get lost in the arguments (in my opinion) over who is "best", is they are both "best" in different ways. One on one, Jordan is probably the better player. He's the better athlete....quicker, faster, higher jumper, more acrobatic. A great SCORER. But Bird is the better TEAM PLAYER. He just is. He will FIND A WAY to win. It's just like the players in the video said....Jordan was a scoring machine, but wasn't that impactful when he wasn't scoring. Bird COULD be a scoring machine if he wanted to or needed to. But he was just as dangerous when he DIDN'T have the ball. A lot of people don't know this, but statistically, over the course of their careers, Bird ties or beats Jordan in almost every single major category. It's really interesting to lay their stats out next to each other and compare them. Larry played 175 games less than Jordan, and STILL had more assists and WAY more rebounds than Jordan. They basically tied on FG%, while Bird had a better Effective FG%. Bird was a better 3 point shooter, a better free throw shooter, had more assists, more rebounds, played more minutes per game, fouled less, turned the ball over less, was a much better passer than Jordan, and was arguably the most clutch shooter ever. People may not LIKE to hear that, but that doesn't change the fact that it's true. Bird was a BAAAAD man.
Good points
When Larry Bird was drafted by the Celtics, they were coming off a 29 win season. Bird first year at Boston, the won 61 games. That was before the had McCale and Parrish. He didn't need a super team to win. Just saying....
both Paxson brothers played in the NBA
Bird turned the Celtics around his rookie year with no help. Celtics only won 24 games the year before Larry arrived. He turned the team around on his back to bring the Celtics to 46 wins. He won rookie of the year and won the championship his next year, 81, 84 and 86. Bird was the only one Jordan never beat.
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Pistons-Bulls beef, and a couple other things, lead Jordan to forever hate Isaiah, which apparently kept him off the dream team and ensured the media would never be on his side.
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Larry……..Larry…..❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊
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