I'm liking Fatty 15 so far. My weight has been coming down. I was stuck at a weight while trying to lose for a long time. I've gone right past it lower now. It has only been about 3 weeks. I'm interested in finding out what happens long term.
As a dairy scientist I have to kindly disagree with your chart at 6:31, if the five listed dairy products are being made from milk coming from conventional farms and Holstein cows (>98% of the milk produced in the US). Holsteins are bred to produce high milk yields: over 20,000 lbs/year (the average dairy cow in the 1950s produced around 5,000 lbs/year). Holsteins are consuming a diet primarily of beet pulp, corn silage and soybean meal (not to mention rBST and antibiotics). Milk from Holsteins these days is depleted of C15:0 and fatty acids in general (with the exception of C16, C18 and C18:1). There are better dairy sources (milk from grass-fed sheep or Jerseys) for C15:0, however, they are not likely to be found in dairy products you can get at your local grocery store.
This is the problem with our food source land or ocean, even when we look at farm to fork we get it wrong most of the time. Then you also have to account for the bioavailability to our body from that source. In the end I recommend eat as healthy as you can and supplement to cover your basis
@@michael-qp9xd Given the sheer volume of scientific publications across the globe that are coming out on the numerous health benefits that C15:0 offers, I would supplement. It is the probably the most consistent and efficient way to maintain levels in you body. For people opting for other sources, look for dairy from organic and grass-fed Jersey or Guernsey cows from a local, small-scale farm. If you have access to a specialty cheese shop look for Evora or Serra da Estrela (Portugual), Ossau-Iraty (France), Roncal (Spain), the various Pecorinos (Italy) or Ogleshield (England). These cheeses have higher levels of C15:0 than dairy from your conventional grocery store. Unfortunately, they also have high levels of less desirable even-chanined fatty acids and the question, of course, is whether you want to be consuming dairy fat to that extent if you’re not as physically active as the sheep herders who are walking up and down the side of mountains all day long?
How about Kerry Gold Irish Butter, supposedly from pasture raised Irish cattle? That is readily available in supermarkets, so if it contains C15 in quantity, then C15 is readily available.
To all the raw milk proponents, the thermal process will not alter the profile of the milk solids (fat, protein, carbohydrates, minerals). A glass of milk from a Jersey cow will have around 5.5% fat whether it's raw, or whether it has undergone thermization or pasturization.
Yes it contains the same things, but it not more work same. Pastoriz milk makes you sick. There is many literature scientific study and evidence about this
The cheeses mentioned in the video are not the best sources of C15. For example, why Pecorino Romano made from raw sheep milk and using animal rennet is not mentioned? You should look into the centenarians from Sardinia and their diet rich in dairy from sheep and goats.
I actually have an episode on the Blue Zones which includes Sardinia and yes they usually get much higher C15:0 from their diet than we do. Picorino cheese is on the lower side at: 0.4-0.6 grams of C15:0 per 100 grams, Swiss, Blue, Gouda are around 0.8 grams of C15:0 per 100 grams I’ll have a list up next week
@@TheVisserPodcast I see different lists, quite misleading. On one of them butter has very little C15. It's really confusing. Please come up with reliable sourse
@@TheVisserPodcast The C15 content of cheeses is dependent on various factors. For the higher % of C15, apart from the name of the cheese, you should always look for cheese made from raw milk from goat and sheep, in particular. The animals should be always grass-fed. The altitude where the animals find grass is also important. The higher on a mountain the more nutrient dense grass they eat. If your list does not specify those factors, I would not trust it.
@@michael-qp9xd Hello. Thank you for your interest. The reality is that you don’t need a list. I don’t have a list and I will not put together a list. Why? Because the components of food, and in particular milk, varied according to the season, the weather, the sun and the grass the animals eat. Much better than a list is your perception about what to look for. For cheeses always read the labels and look for these facts: 1) Grass-fed animals. 2) Made from raw milk. 3) Produce only with animal rennet. (Do not consume cheeses coagulated with “vegetable rennet”. Here is the label of a high-quality sheep’s cheese: Ingredients: Unpasteurized sheep's milk, Salt, Rennet (from lamb), Bacterial culture. Cheeses made this way, would always have a variable high amount of C15. NOTE: Real rennet comes from the stomach of the animal. Vegetable rennet, in contrast, also called microbial enzymes, is a man-made substitute using GMO material and the main manufacturer is Pfizer.
it has been 10 days since I began taking C15 100mg. My FBS has come down. It is working. My lipid profile is also great. My serum iron level was nearly 2000mg, No doctor seemed have know why. I was having phlebotomy to discard blood. 9 weeks after I went on strict carnivore Many my health issue were corrected .FBS was only issue I had difficulty till I started C15 pilll.
Very very good! I can’t wait to try it to see if it helps with my information caused by too many eosinophil count causing me to have eosinophilic asthma !!!
Saturated fat is the most pro inflammatory food that exists. It promotes metastasis in cancer patients, promotes insulin resistance, and if from animal fat, it carries all the toxins that the animal ingested as well as hormones.
Pecorino Romano made with grass fed sheep's milk is 1300+mg per 100g of cheese. It's not the easiest to find nor it is the cheapest BUT it is much cheaper than the supplement. 1/3oz of a hard grass fed sheep's milk cheese per day to get your recommended amount is not going to have negative effects
I've been reading the same about Pecorino Romano. I just ordered it from Amazon. Why is this podcaster saying it's extremely low?? This is why everyone is confused. Who do we believe?
@ the podcaster’s sponsor for this video… and many non related videos is the only company that sells this supplement and it is expensive. TBH, I feel like his credibility is taking a hit on this.
If you are on a vegan or other low-(animal-)fat diet, then yes supplementing makes sense, but to me it sounds rather easy to get to healthy levels. We didn't discover this for a long time because it never was a problem. Now some people are promoting low fat diets it's suddenly a problem. Just eat animal fat and you'll be fine. I eat mostly ketovore, so I do not expect any problems. I might include some butter and cream into my diet, but that's more for flavor and variety than because I think I might be missing nutrients.
I’ll add an expanded list by next week, but your Picorino cheese happens to be on the lower end at 0.4-0.6grams of C15:0 per 100grams. Swiss, Blue, Parmesan and Gouda are around the 0.8 grams of C15:0 per 100 grams.
@@TheVisserPodcastother videos tout Pecorino Romano as top source. One guys podcast said one ounce contains over 100mg. This is why everyone is so confused.
I sense a dutch accent...correct? I took C15 for my first 3 months, fatigue reduced and now skin is also able to heal better again. I did also a metal detox with fulvic acid and activated-charcoal.
My father was 50% Dutch, my mother about 25%, my genetic test shows 72% European (had to make sure 😂) Born on the Island of Aruba but spend more than 25 years in the US where I did most of my education. As you may know Aruba is also more US oriented than the other Dutch Islands so English gets prioritized from young.
@@TheEmergingPattern. I’m pretty doubtful that your ear for accents has anything to do with being a concert pianist. I have a great ear for accents also, and can imitate them easily. You know who totally couldn’t? Vladimir Horowitz. Arrived in the US at age 17, still spoke with the most horrid Russian accent right until the end. Somehow these two “ear” abilities don’t seem all that related.
This has got to be connected to the French Paradox too. I mean the French love butter and use it a lot in their cooking, so they are getting a lot of C15 in their diet. Hence why they don't have an obesity problem like the USA and rarely get heart disease.
The question should be why did it work so well for our ancestors? Here is something to think about; We were much leaner then, did more strenuous activities, our food sources were cleaner. With access intake of calories our bodies have become weak, at cellular levels we experience mitochondrial overspill - so introducing high dose saturated fats on top of that might not be beneficial. We see in the research if you have a healthy muscle to fat ratio there is no problem, but most of us struggle to get there
Removing heavy metals from the body, a process known as detoxification, can be challenging and often requires medical intervention, especially in cases of significant exposure. Here are some scientifically supported methods: 1. Chelation Therapy Chelation therapy involves the administration of chelating agents that bind to heavy metals and help remove them from the body through urine. Common chelating agents include: • EDTA (Ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid): Effective for lead and other heavy metals. • DMSA (Dimercaptosuccinic acid): Used for lead, mercury, and arsenic. • DMPS (2,3-Dimercapto-1-propanesulfonic acid): Effective for mercury and arsenic. 2. Dietary Interventions Certain foods and nutrients can help support the body’s natural detoxification processes: • Fiber: Foods high in fiber, like fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, can help bind heavy metals and promote their excretion through the digestive tract. • Sulfur-rich foods: Garlic, onions, and cruciferous vegetables (broccoli, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts) can support detoxification pathways. • Cilantro and Chlorella: Some studies suggest that these may help reduce heavy metal levels, though more research is needed. • Antioxidants: Vitamins C and E, selenium, and zinc can help protect cells from oxidative damage caused by heavy metals. 3. Hydration Drinking plenty of water can help support kidney function and the elimination of toxins through urine.
Key Differences • Nature: Ferroptosis is a cellular process involving iron-dependent cell death, while hemochromatosis is a systemic disorder involving iron overload. • Cause: Ferroptosis is caused by oxidative stress and lipid peroxidation within cells, whereas hemochromatosis is primarily due to genetic mutations leading to excessive iron absorption. • Impact: Ferroptosis affects individual cells and is implicated in various diseases, whereas hemochromatosis affects the entire body and leads to iron deposition in multiple organs. • Treatment: Managing ferroptosis involves regulating iron levels and antioxidant defenses within cells. Hemochromatosis treatment focuses on reducing iron levels in the body, often through phlebotomy (blood removal) or chelation therapy. Understanding these differences is crucial for diagnosing and treating conditions related to iron metabolism effectively.
I have haemocromatosis . I accumulate iron. (thanks to crappy genes) its already damaged my liver and my pancreas somewhat. I'm gonna take C15. can't hurt. I'm trying ton protect whatever i have left!!
Changes to your diet: Your healthcare provider will probably ask you to avoid supplements with iron. You may also need to stay away from foods with too much iron and limit vitamin C. Limit your alcohol consumption, too, because it’s not good for your liver. Iron chelation therapy: This medication removes extra iron from your body. It’s taken by mouth at home or injected into the blood by a healthcare provider. Therapeutic phlebotomy: This procedure uses a needle and tube to remove blood, and the iron it contains, from your body. Treatment needs to be repeated frequently, so you’ll have regular blood tests to measure iron levels. And yes definitely try C-15
My blood markers are on point, I am in good shape - strength training 5x a week, zone2 3x a week and some sprinting / rucking sprinkled in there. My arteries are in top shape clean as a whistle as seen with imaging, I just have to watch my D3 intake since that was lower than optimal. I’ve done stem cell therapy 2 times, Exosomes for my joints 1x amazing results btw. I take what I consider minimalistic amount of supplements incl C15:0 so in my case I will not feel effects that easy, same as my IV Stem Cell treatment I did not feel much different, however I know it makes a difference - with the Exosomes I did feel a huge difference 3 mo after because i had an issue there
1) how did our ancestors get it before cheese was invented? 2)how lactose intolerant people can get it from food? 3)why take supplements if 100 gr cheese is enough?
1) Ancestors before cheese died young, and were getting what they could all from natural food sources 2) Supplement and look at my list which also includes non-dairy 3) Because most of these sources are unreliable today, and even if you got natural grass fed untreated etc etc source, you’ll still have an issue with bioavailability - how much is our body able to extract from the source - it results in a very small amount
Saturated fats aren't a problem. There are people eating nothing but meat and they are healthier than they have ever been. The diet actually healed their many problems.
I guarantee they will get into trouble if they don’t consume fiber - fyi You can get the same results with any healthy diet if you drop the weight, the only research i have found is on Keto diet and certain mental issues
@@TheVisserPodcast I just watched an interview of Jordan Peterson's daughter. You need to watch it. Search for "Meat Only Saved her life with Mikhaila Fuller". There are also doctors on RUclips that have been eating carnivore for many years. I have thrown out sugar and processed foofs and eat one meal a day and I have never felt better.
The people are healthier because they lost body fat. But it doesn’t mean that the diet that lost them the weight is the healthiest permanent diet. Our bodies make all the saturated fat we need. Eating more of it does many not good things to our bodies.
At 13.26 you state " -- but I don't want to overdo It." Surely as an experienced man of science, you must know by know that the scare stories about saturated fats have been shown to be rubbish, promoted by Ansel Keys? who thought the burger consumption by Eisenhower was the major factor in his heart problems, and not the 80 cigarettes Ike chain smoked every day. Eat the butter, lard, dripping and fatty fish and bin most supplements. What you EAT as food IS vital to your health
If you live in the USA, the food you are buying at the grocery store is mostly trash, even the organic, pasture raised, etc is just marketing. American food is garbage compared to most other developed countries because our food system is controlled by greedy massive corporations that couldn't care less about your health. Therefore, it is likely impossible to get all of the nutrients you need to optimize your health from food. A few high quality supplements are absolutely essential for optimal health.
I have been using Fatty 15 for over two months. How do I determine Fatty 15 is working for me? Is there a specific blood test I should take and what levels should I be at?
Serum Blood - Fatty Acid Profile test its a specialized test that can give you C15:0 values 20 μM seems to be what we minimally need for optimized health
6:50 "Cattle" seems an awfully vague subset of otherwise specifically dairy sources. I wonder what, precisely they meant, as in "salted butter" being according to industry standards. There is no standard I know of for the fat content of 100 grams of cattle.
I’ll include an expanded list for next week, but here are some examples: Here is the approximate C15:0 content per 100 grams of various meats: 1. Beef (ground, 80% lean): Contains about 0.05 grams of C15:0. 2. Chicken breast (skinless): Contains about 0.02 grams of C15:0. 3. Duck (meat and skin, domestic): Contains about 0.02 grams of C15:0. 4. Lamb: Contains about 0.03 grams of C15:0 . It’s important to note that while C15:0 is present in these meats, the levels can vary based on factors such as the animal’s diet and the specific cut of meat. For those looking to increase their intake of C15:0, supplements like fatty15 have been developed to provide a more concentrated source of this fatty acid
Apparently all types of saturated fats are not good for you as unlike the odd chain fatty acids (C15, C17) the even chain fatty acids are pro-inflammatory. It is interesting how science studies changes our perspective of what is good & what is bad for you.
If you read the recent studies on IL-11, and lowering its expression to boost lifespan. What they all overlooked is IL-11 expression increases in relation to age related iron overload. That the body increases its expression to prevent iron loving viruses and bacteria from proliferating. Restoring normal iron transport and cell storage lowers IL-11 expression by default. You should see if C15 lowers IL-11 expression over time via iron metabolism stabilisation.
@@TheVisserPodcast For my father I dived into the kidney health area and also found that IL-11 is a driver of inflamation there.. German studies give good results but stage 5 is too hard to recover from.
That would be milligrams, but remember these are general number to give you a ballpark figure as compared to the other sources at best. We don’t know the quality of the cheese, we don’t know the health of the cow it came from or the process. Furthermore it’s bioavailability is poor, so taking all this into consideration, I would eat the best source I could find without trying to meet the daily requirements and still supplement
This suggests my current diet gives me enough C15. Many people have Alpha-thalassemia as an inherited blood trait. I always wonder how that affects outcomes for us compared to those without the trait who were probably the research subjects. Any ideas regarding C15 requirements for us?
For individuals with alpha thalassemia trait, nutritional management generally focuses on maintaining overall health and addressing mild anemia. Key dietary considerations include: • Iron Balance: While people with alpha thalassemia trait typically do not require iron supplementation, it’s essential to avoid iron deficiency anemia, which can complicate the condition. • Folic Acid: Folic acid is important for the production of red blood cells and is often recommended to support overall blood health. • Balanced Diet: A diet rich in vitamins and minerals supports overall health and can help manage symptoms of mild anemia. Recommendations for C15:0 Intake While there are no specific guidelines for C15:0 intake for people with alpha thalassemia trait, incorporating sources of this fatty acid as part of a balanced diet might offer general health benefits. Here are a few steps to consider: • Moderation: Include foods rich in C15:0, such as full-fat dairy products and certain fish, in moderation. • Diverse Diet: Ensure a varied diet that includes plenty of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, lean proteins, and healthy fats. • Consult Healthcare Providers: Always consult with healthcare providers or a registered dietitian before making significant changes to your diet, especially if you have a genetic condition like alpha thalassemia trait. In summary, while C15:0 might offer general health benefits, there are no specific requirements or guidelines for its intake for individuals with alpha thalassemia trait. Focusing on a balanced and nutritious diet, tailored to your overall health needs, is the best approach.
Yes back in the day when i was at the Chopra Center in La Jolla Ca. Did some in the years after that too, but at my age now I prioritize muscle retention, so no more fasting longer than 48 hours once in a while - I do intermittent fasting but that is more for weight control as you know
How can you say the research is compelling? Maybe C15 will turn out to be promising, but 1 RCT on 30 obese people and research by a patent holder hawking a supplement is not all that compelling.
Whole food vegans do not tend to get the diseases that you state that C15 provides protection against (Fatty Liver, T2D) and I suspect that they get little or no C15.
Maybe C15 is healthful, but it is clearly not a magic bullet. People in the 1960s were likely getting much more C15 than people today and they had shorter lifespans than people have today. Of course, today's greater lifespans may be due to modern medical treatments and / or lower smoking rates.
A particular exact process of making C14 into C15 can be patented. C15 can be made into a supplement any other way without violating the patent. It is not abundant in nature, so an efficient way of making a C15 supplement is valuable.
Physionics tells us that the research article about ferroptosis doesn't contain any proof that C15:0 actually has any such effect on it. That paper, from an author with direct commersial interest in the Fatty15 supplement, at most presents an hypothesis about a possible mechanism for that. This hype is getting out of control! C15 Mechanism Discovered? Ferroptosis Inhibitor? Physionic Extracellular
While it’s true that current human studies on C15:0 are limited, scientific exploration often begins with hypotheses based on early evidence, which is exactly where we are with C15:0 and its potential as a ferroptosis inhibitor. I maintain a cautiously optimistic stance based on both clinical experience and a solid background in supplement formulation. My interest in C15:0 stems from observed correlations, showing that individuals with higher levels of C15:0 often demonstrate greater vitality compared to their counterparts. The decision to use C15:0 personally is rooted in its promising profile with no apparent downside-only potential benefit. I agree that we need more rigorous data, but the preliminary findings warrant attention and further investigation rather than dismissal. Science evolves, and so will our understanding of C15:0 as more research becomes available.”
He pulls the plug too early on C15:0 he’s not all knowing esp in this field! And he has his his own line of vitamins which he heavily promotes with each episode that aires. I’m cautiously optimistic on C15:0 and I personally will use it
Not so fast cowboy - I Beg to differ, there is the issue of bioavailability how much can our body actually extract from this source minute amounts, so you need more much more and then it can become hazardous for your health and or weight, so unless you are tracking it measuring it and really vigilant - I’d still suggest taking a supplement just to cover your bases
Can we just state: The Medical Profession doesn't know how the body works. So, what else did the idiots remove from our food that is essential? I'm so pissed right now. Fix the damn food supply.
I understand your frustration but it is more complex and crazy than that: The medical profession is great when it comes to their specialty. However when it comes to nutrition, physiology, supplementation and how to optimize your health most do not have the training or knowledge. The food Industry plays a big role with the lobby channels they have, government also plays a critical role with so many aspects that influence our environment and food choices - such as subsidies that are given to grow… and then are added to foods we eat to keep the price down - cresting highly processed foods that are cheaper than real food. The public health authorities, The food Industry etc all these form the environment we live in. So all I’m saying is that there are so many players that influence and that the medical profession is but a small cog in this machine
@@TheVisserPodcast I do not want a specialist unless they are a specialist in the Human Body. It all works together. Any dis ease in the body is a symptom. Gout is a symptom. T2 diabetes is a symptom. Heart attack is a symptom. Arthritis is a symptom. They recently discovered, after 90 years, a new EFA, Pentadecylic acid. This newly found EFA is likely the cause of the symptom, T2 diabetes, which is the main symptom that leads to heart attack. Our food supply is a chemical shit storm unless you can afford grass fed grass finished organic. Want a healthy population, start with the nutrition or lack there of in the food supply.
I call absolute overhype on all this c15 miracle substance stuff and if you want to at least watch an expert in deciphering research and what it really does mean check out Physionic video on the stuff and you might just save your money. Just my opinion but this smelt like mainly a clever marketing campaign from the start preying on peoples hope that a new wonder substance be discovered that will help just about anything
Buddy, why take so much time talking about what you're going to talk about instead of talking about it? Your inability to get to the point is maddening.
Yeah but I love them, in life you have to evaluate decisions you make and it’s almost never black and white (I’m only talking within the moral compass). I do extreme sports, ride fast motorcycles, etc because thats where i connect to the source. My tattoo’s are about my life and my heritage - being an Islander. On the other hand, there are things that have a far greater positive impact on your health that everyone should do! Resistance training 4 times a week heavy - VO2 max training 3 times a week and I eat as healthy as I can without being a prima-donna about it and that will get me to the 90 year atlete goal The most important three basic things you can do for yourself bar none the rest is just fine tuning. Don’t be afraid go out there and live life to the fullest have s blast make a difference be kind and loving - big hug
Nice to have scientist that are discovering new ways to promote health and wellness!
Thank you!
I'm liking Fatty 15 so far. My weight has been coming down. I was stuck at a weight while trying to lose for a long time. I've gone right past it lower now. It has only been about 3 weeks. I'm interested in finding out what happens long term.
That is great news, keep us posted on your journey
As a dairy scientist I have to kindly disagree with your chart at 6:31, if the five listed dairy products are being made from milk coming from conventional farms and Holstein cows (>98% of the milk produced in the US). Holsteins are bred to produce high milk yields: over 20,000 lbs/year (the average dairy cow in the 1950s produced around 5,000 lbs/year). Holsteins are consuming a diet primarily of beet pulp, corn silage and soybean meal (not to mention rBST and antibiotics). Milk from Holsteins these days is depleted of C15:0 and fatty acids in general (with the exception of C16, C18 and C18:1). There are better dairy sources (milk from grass-fed sheep or Jerseys) for C15:0, however, they are not likely to be found in dairy products you can get at your local grocery store.
Please could add your list highest sources.
I stand corrected you are right, and it is because I used a standardized chart that really doesn’t account for that level of specificity.
This is the problem with our food source land or ocean, even when we look at farm to fork we get it wrong most of the time. Then you also have to account for the bioavailability to our body from that source. In the end I recommend eat as healthy as you can and supplement to cover your basis
@@michael-qp9xd Given the sheer volume of scientific publications across the globe that are coming out on the numerous health benefits that C15:0 offers, I would supplement. It is the probably the most consistent and efficient way to maintain levels in you body. For people opting for other sources, look for dairy from organic and grass-fed Jersey or Guernsey cows from a local, small-scale farm. If you have access to a specialty cheese shop look for Evora or Serra da Estrela (Portugual), Ossau-Iraty (France), Roncal (Spain), the various Pecorinos (Italy) or Ogleshield (England). These cheeses have higher levels of C15:0 than dairy from your conventional grocery store. Unfortunately, they also have high levels of less desirable even-chanined fatty acids and the question, of course, is whether you want to be consuming dairy fat to that extent if you’re not as physically active as the sheep herders who are walking up and down the side of mountains all day long?
How about Kerry Gold Irish Butter, supposedly from pasture raised Irish cattle? That is readily available in supermarkets, so if it contains C15 in quantity, then C15 is readily available.
To all the raw milk proponents, the thermal process will not alter the profile of the milk solids (fat, protein, carbohydrates, minerals). A glass of milk from a Jersey cow will have around 5.5% fat whether it's raw, or whether it has undergone thermization or pasturization.
Yes it contains the same things, but it not more work same. Pastoriz milk makes you sick. There is many literature scientific study and evidence about this
Yes. And they tell us also that microwave is safe. Bat it's not. It change the deep structure of nutrients. So make pastorisation
The cheeses mentioned in the video are not the best sources of C15. For example, why Pecorino Romano made from raw sheep milk and using animal rennet is not mentioned? You should look into the centenarians from Sardinia and their diet rich in dairy from sheep and goats.
I actually have an episode on the Blue Zones which includes Sardinia and yes they usually get much higher C15:0 from their diet than we do. Picorino cheese is on the lower side at: 0.4-0.6 grams of C15:0 per 100 grams, Swiss, Blue, Gouda are around 0.8 grams of C15:0 per 100 grams
I’ll have a list up next week
@@TheVisserPodcast I see different lists, quite misleading. On one of them butter has very little C15. It's really confusing. Please come up with reliable sourse
@@TheVisserPodcast The C15 content of cheeses is dependent on various factors. For the higher % of C15, apart from the name of the cheese, you should always look for cheese made from raw milk from goat and sheep, in particular. The animals should be always grass-fed. The altitude where the animals find grass is also important. The higher on a mountain the more nutrient dense grass they eat. If your list does not specify those factors, I would not trust it.
@@SantiagoHHChello - good info u have. Could u add your list here of highest sources. Thanks
@@michael-qp9xd Hello. Thank you for your interest. The reality is that you don’t need a list. I don’t have a list and I will not put together a list. Why? Because the components of food, and in particular milk, varied according to the season, the weather, the sun and the grass the animals eat. Much better than a list is your perception about what to look for. For cheeses always read the labels and look for these facts: 1) Grass-fed animals. 2) Made from raw milk. 3) Produce only with animal rennet. (Do not consume cheeses coagulated with “vegetable rennet”. Here is the label of a high-quality sheep’s cheese: Ingredients: Unpasteurized sheep's milk, Salt, Rennet (from lamb), Bacterial culture. Cheeses made this way, would always have a variable high amount of C15. NOTE: Real rennet comes from the stomach of the animal. Vegetable rennet, in contrast, also called microbial enzymes, is a man-made substitute using GMO material and the main manufacturer is Pfizer.
i was two months of C15 supplement i couldn't believe my result cameback yesterday and my cholesterol, uric, ldl back to normal!
Love that intro!
Shields Up!!! 😅
it has been 10 days since I began taking C15 100mg. My FBS has come down. It is working. My lipid profile is also great. My serum iron level was nearly 2000mg, No doctor seemed have know why. I was having phlebotomy to discard blood. 9 weeks after I went on strict carnivore Many my health issue were corrected .FBS was only issue I had difficulty till I started C15 pilll.
I’m so glad to hear this
Very very good! I can’t wait to try it to see if it helps with my information caused by too many eosinophil count causing me to have eosinophilic asthma !!!
Cholesterol is not the enemy. Saturated fat is healthy when it comes from a healthy animal source . The lies run deep
Amen to that 🙏🏼100% .
Saturated fat is the most pro inflammatory food that exists.
It promotes metastasis in cancer patients, promotes insulin resistance, and if from animal fat, it carries all the toxins that the animal ingested as well as hormones.
Cholesterol is the enemy for people with high blood pressure and obesity.
Our bodies can make all we need; we don’t want to artificially raise it.
Pecorino Romano made with grass fed sheep's milk is 1300+mg per 100g of cheese. It's not the easiest to find nor it is the cheapest BUT it is much cheaper than the supplement. 1/3oz of a hard grass fed sheep's milk cheese per day to get your recommended amount is not going to have negative effects
I've been reading the same about Pecorino Romano. I just ordered it from Amazon. Why is this podcaster saying it's extremely low?? This is why everyone is confused. Who do we believe?
@ the podcaster’s sponsor for this video… and many non related videos is the only company that sells this supplement and it is expensive. TBH, I feel like his credibility is taking a hit on this.
Physionics utube channel just did a very critical analysis of the supplement.
Yes, I trust that site way more than these people promoting the brand, probably getting kickbacks in one way or another.
Yes he did, and after everything I’m still bullish on C15:0 until human trails indicate differently
If you are on a vegan or other low-(animal-)fat diet, then yes supplementing makes sense, but to me it sounds rather easy to get to healthy levels. We didn't discover this for a long time because it never was a problem. Now some people are promoting low fat diets it's suddenly a problem. Just eat animal fat and you'll be fine. I eat mostly ketovore, so I do not expect any problems. I might include some butter and cream into my diet, but that's more for flavor and variety than because I think I might be missing nutrients.
I’ll add an expanded list by next week, but your Picorino cheese happens to be on the lower end at 0.4-0.6grams of C15:0 per 100grams. Swiss, Blue, Parmesan and Gouda are around the 0.8 grams of C15:0 per 100 grams.
@@TheVisserPodcastother videos tout Pecorino Romano as top source. One guys podcast said one ounce contains over 100mg. This is why everyone is so confused.
I sense a dutch accent...correct? I took C15 for my first 3 months, fatigue reduced and now skin is also able to heal better again. I did also a metal detox with fulvic acid and activated-charcoal.
I'm Dutch. I see a Dutch name (Visser=Fisherman), but for me he sounds 100% American.
My father was 50% Dutch, my mother about 25%, my genetic test shows 72% European (had to make sure 😂) Born on the Island of Aruba but spend more than 25 years in the US where I did most of my education. As you may know Aruba is also more US oriented than the other Dutch Islands so English gets prioritized from young.
@@GerbenWulff There is a slight dutch way of saying things, besides that I have concert-pianist ears so that's how I noticed.
@TheVisserPodcast Plenty of Vissers in South Africa too.
@@TheEmergingPattern. I’m pretty doubtful that your ear for accents has anything to do with being a concert pianist. I have a great ear for accents also, and can imitate them easily. You know who totally couldn’t? Vladimir Horowitz. Arrived in the US at age 17, still spoke with the most horrid Russian accent right until the end. Somehow these two “ear” abilities don’t seem all that related.
This has got to be connected to the French Paradox too. I mean the French love butter and use it a lot in their cooking, so they are getting a lot of C15 in their diet. Hence why they don't have an obesity problem like the USA and rarely get heart disease.
Its the lack of highly processed foods in their diet, eating small portions, and walking a ton
@@TheVisserPodcast Add they enjoy their food. The French take their time to eat. They are not in a rush to eat like most Americans.
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From what I learned from Dr Steph, it seems that C15 isn't readily bio-available in the foods listed on your chart.
While foods contain trace amounts of C15:0, these
foods also have ‘bad’ saturated fats, calories, and
have C15:0 in a less bioavailable form.
The question should be why did it work so well for our ancestors? Here is something to think about; We were much leaner then, did more strenuous activities, our food sources were cleaner.
With access intake of calories our bodies have become weak, at cellular levels we experience mitochondrial overspill - so introducing high dose saturated fats on top of that might not be beneficial. We see in the research if you have a healthy muscle to fat ratio there is no problem, but most of us struggle to get there
Would Chelation therapy to get rid of metals in the body also help? Thanks for your work.
Removing heavy metals from the body, a process known as detoxification, can be challenging and often requires medical intervention, especially in cases of significant exposure. Here are some scientifically supported methods:
1. Chelation Therapy
Chelation therapy involves the administration of chelating agents that bind to heavy metals and help remove them from the body through urine. Common chelating agents include:
• EDTA (Ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid): Effective for lead and other heavy metals.
• DMSA (Dimercaptosuccinic acid): Used for lead, mercury, and arsenic.
• DMPS (2,3-Dimercapto-1-propanesulfonic acid): Effective for mercury and arsenic.
2. Dietary Interventions
Certain foods and nutrients can help support the body’s natural detoxification processes:
• Fiber: Foods high in fiber, like fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, can help bind heavy metals and promote their excretion through the digestive tract.
• Sulfur-rich foods: Garlic, onions, and cruciferous vegetables (broccoli, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts) can support detoxification pathways.
• Cilantro and Chlorella: Some studies suggest that these may help reduce heavy metal levels, though more research is needed.
• Antioxidants: Vitamins C and E, selenium, and zinc can help protect cells from oxidative damage caused by heavy metals.
3. Hydration
Drinking plenty of water can help support kidney function and the elimination of toxins through urine.
Thank you
effects seem like iron overload disease, hemochromatosis
Key Differences
• Nature: Ferroptosis is a cellular process involving iron-dependent cell death, while hemochromatosis is a systemic disorder involving iron overload.
• Cause: Ferroptosis is caused by oxidative stress and lipid peroxidation within cells, whereas hemochromatosis is primarily due to genetic mutations leading to excessive iron absorption.
• Impact: Ferroptosis affects individual cells and is implicated in various diseases, whereas hemochromatosis affects the entire body and leads to iron deposition in multiple organs.
• Treatment: Managing ferroptosis involves regulating iron levels and antioxidant defenses within cells. Hemochromatosis treatment focuses on reducing iron levels in the body, often through phlebotomy (blood removal) or chelation therapy.
Understanding these differences is crucial for diagnosing and treating conditions related to iron metabolism effectively.
I have haemocromatosis . I accumulate iron. (thanks to crappy genes) its already damaged my liver and my pancreas somewhat. I'm gonna take C15. can't hurt. I'm trying ton protect whatever i have left!!
Changes to your diet: Your healthcare provider will probably ask you to avoid supplements with iron. You may also need to stay away from foods with too much iron and limit vitamin C. Limit your alcohol consumption, too, because it’s not good for your liver.
Iron chelation therapy: This medication removes extra iron from your body. It’s taken by mouth at home or injected into the blood by a healthcare provider.
Therapeutic phlebotomy: This procedure uses a needle and tube to remove blood, and the iron it contains, from your body. Treatment needs to be repeated frequently, so you’ll have regular blood tests to measure iron levels.
And yes definitely try C-15
Hello Visser- thanks for info here. Wonder since u taking c15- what change with blood markers? What change with your weight? Thanks
My blood markers are on point, I am in good shape - strength training 5x a week, zone2 3x a week and some sprinting / rucking sprinkled in there. My arteries are in top shape clean as a whistle as seen with imaging, I just have to watch my D3 intake since that was lower than optimal.
I’ve done stem cell therapy 2 times, Exosomes for my joints 1x amazing results btw. I take what I consider minimalistic amount of supplements incl C15:0 so in my case I will not feel effects that easy, same as my IV Stem Cell treatment I did not feel much different, however I know it makes a difference - with the Exosomes I did feel a huge difference 3 mo after because i had an issue there
1) how did our ancestors get it before cheese was invented?
2)how lactose intolerant people can get it from food?
3)why take supplements if 100 gr cheese is enough?
1) Ancestors before cheese died young, and were getting what they could all from natural food sources
2) Supplement and look at my list which also includes non-dairy
3) Because most of these sources are unreliable today, and even if you got natural grass fed untreated etc etc source, you’ll still have an issue with bioavailability - how much is our body able to extract from the source - it results in a very small amount
Saturated fats aren't a problem. There are people eating nothing but meat and they are healthier than they have ever been. The diet actually healed their many problems.
I guarantee they will get into trouble if they don’t consume fiber - fyi You can get the same results with any healthy diet if you drop the weight, the only research i have found is on Keto diet and certain mental issues
@@TheVisserPodcast I just watched an interview of Jordan Peterson's daughter. You need to watch it. Search for "Meat Only Saved her life with Mikhaila Fuller". There are also doctors on RUclips that have been eating carnivore for many years. I have thrown out sugar and processed foofs and eat one meal a day and I have never felt better.
The people are healthier because they lost body fat. But it doesn’t mean that the diet that lost them the weight is the healthiest permanent diet.
Our bodies make all the saturated fat we need. Eating more of it does many not good things to our bodies.
Correction: Saturated fats are a problem for some people.
At 13.26 you state " -- but I don't want to overdo It." Surely as an experienced man of science, you must know by know that the scare stories
about saturated fats have been shown to be rubbish, promoted by Ansel Keys? who thought the burger consumption by Eisenhower was the major factor in his heart problems, and not the 80 cigarettes Ike chain smoked every day.
Eat the butter, lard, dripping and fatty fish and bin most supplements. What you EAT as food IS vital to your health
If you live in the USA, the food you are buying at the grocery store is mostly trash, even the organic, pasture raised, etc is just marketing. American food is garbage compared to most other developed countries because our food system is controlled by greedy massive corporations that couldn't care less about your health. Therefore, it is likely impossible to get all of the nutrients you need to optimize your health from food. A few high quality supplements are absolutely essential for optimal health.
Agree… but they are trying to sell their supplements so they discourage natural forms lol
I have been using Fatty 15 for over two months. How do I determine Fatty 15 is working for me? Is there a specific blood test I should take and what levels should I be at?
Serum Blood - Fatty Acid Profile test its a specialized test that can give you C15:0 values
20 μM seems to be what we minimally need for optimized health
A fool and their money are soon parted.
6:50 "Cattle" seems an awfully vague subset of otherwise specifically dairy sources. I wonder what, precisely they meant, as in "salted butter" being according to industry standards. There is no standard I know of for the fat content of 100 grams of cattle.
I’ll include an expanded list for next week, but here are some examples:
Here is the approximate C15:0 content per 100 grams of various meats:
1. Beef (ground, 80% lean): Contains about 0.05 grams of C15:0.
2. Chicken breast (skinless): Contains about 0.02 grams of C15:0.
3. Duck (meat and skin, domestic): Contains about 0.02 grams of C15:0.
4. Lamb: Contains about 0.03 grams of C15:0 .
It’s important to note that while C15:0 is present in these meats, the levels can vary based on factors such as the animal’s diet and the specific cut of meat. For those looking to increase their intake of C15:0, supplements like fatty15 have been developed to provide a more concentrated source of this fatty acid
Apparently all types of saturated fats are not good for you as unlike the odd chain fatty acids (C15, C17) the even chain fatty acids are pro-inflammatory. It is interesting how science studies changes our perspective of what is good & what is bad for you.
Science is catching up at a faster pace these days 🙏
Does ghee contain this?
Yes it does but you’d have to eat an impossible amount to meet the recommended dose, that said yes it will help
If you read the recent studies on IL-11, and lowering its expression to boost lifespan.
What they all overlooked is IL-11 expression increases in relation to age related iron overload.
That the body increases its expression to prevent iron loving viruses and bacteria from proliferating.
Restoring normal iron transport and cell storage lowers IL-11 expression by default.
You should see if C15 lowers IL-11 expression over time via iron metabolism stabilisation.
Have also been looking at IL-11, will look at this relationship
@@TheVisserPodcast For my father I dived into the kidney health area and also found that IL-11 is a driver of inflamation there.. German studies give good results but stage 5 is too hard to recover from.
What are natural IL 11 inhibitors?
When C15 levels are stated for cheddar cheese etc, is that in milligrams or micrograms? Thx 🙏🏼
That would be milligrams, but remember these are general number to give you a ballpark figure as compared to the other sources at best. We don’t know the quality of the cheese, we don’t know the health of the cow it came from or the process. Furthermore it’s bioavailability is poor, so taking all this into consideration, I would eat the best source I could find without trying to meet the daily requirements and still supplement
This suggests my current diet gives me enough C15. Many people have Alpha-thalassemia as an inherited blood trait. I always wonder how that affects outcomes for us compared to those without the trait who were probably the research subjects. Any ideas regarding C15 requirements for us?
For individuals with alpha thalassemia trait, nutritional management generally focuses on maintaining overall health and addressing mild anemia. Key dietary considerations include:
• Iron Balance: While people with alpha thalassemia trait typically do not require iron supplementation, it’s essential to avoid iron deficiency anemia, which can complicate the condition.
• Folic Acid: Folic acid is important for the production of red blood cells and is often recommended to support overall blood health.
• Balanced Diet: A diet rich in vitamins and minerals supports overall health and can help manage symptoms of mild anemia.
Recommendations for C15:0 Intake
While there are no specific guidelines for C15:0 intake for people with alpha thalassemia trait, incorporating sources of this fatty acid as part of a balanced diet might offer general health benefits. Here are a few steps to consider:
• Moderation: Include foods rich in C15:0, such as full-fat dairy products and certain fish, in moderation.
• Diverse Diet: Ensure a varied diet that includes plenty of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, lean proteins, and healthy fats.
• Consult Healthcare Providers: Always consult with healthcare providers or a registered dietitian before making significant changes to your diet, especially if you have a genetic condition like alpha thalassemia trait.
In summary, while C15:0 might offer general health benefits, there are no specific requirements or guidelines for its intake for individuals with alpha thalassemia trait. Focusing on a balanced and nutritious diet, tailored to your overall health needs, is the best approach.
Do you do any extended water fasting, like 3 days for HGH, autophagy?
Yes back in the day when i was at the Chopra Center in La Jolla Ca. Did some in the years after that too, but at my age now I prioritize muscle retention, so no more fasting longer than 48 hours once in a while - I do intermittent fasting but that is more for weight control as you know
How can you say the research is compelling? Maybe C15 will turn out to be promising, but 1 RCT on 30 obese people and research by a patent holder hawking a supplement is not all that compelling.
Whole food vegans do not tend to get the diseases that you state that C15 provides protection against (Fatty Liver, T2D) and I suspect that they get little or no C15.
Maybe C15 is healthful, but it is clearly not a magic bullet. People in the 1960s were likely getting much more C15 than people today and they had shorter lifespans than people have today. Of course, today's greater lifespans may be due to modern medical treatments and / or lower smoking rates.
Thats why we follow the developments closely
We're rusting!
I'd love to buy it, but it is way to expensive and do the cost of making justify the high price? NO idea as they don't publish this fact.
It’s all perspective people are buying Mounjaro at $ 800.- a piece to drop weight, yeah a hard question to answer
You share voices with George Clooney
I’ll take that compliment
Start grounding and you will stamp out inflammation. Grounding is the base layer of your metabolic health.
you cannot patent c15...it is an organic compound...
A particular exact process of making C14 into C15 can be patented. C15 can be made into a supplement any other way without violating the patent. It is not abundant in nature, so an efficient way of making a C15 supplement is valuable.
@@808bf not abundant yet essential...something ain't adding up.
Physionics tells us that the research article about ferroptosis doesn't contain any proof that C15:0 actually has any such effect on it.
That paper, from an author with direct commersial interest in the Fatty15 supplement, at most presents an hypothesis about a possible mechanism for that.
This hype is getting out of control!
C15 Mechanism Discovered? Ferroptosis Inhibitor?
Physionic Extracellular
While it’s true that current human studies on C15:0 are limited, scientific exploration often begins with hypotheses based on early evidence, which is exactly where we are with C15:0 and its potential as a ferroptosis inhibitor. I maintain a cautiously optimistic stance based on both clinical experience and a solid background in supplement formulation. My interest in C15:0 stems from observed correlations, showing that individuals with higher levels of C15:0 often demonstrate greater vitality compared to their counterparts.
The decision to use C15:0 personally is rooted in its promising profile with no apparent downside-only potential benefit. I agree that we need more rigorous data, but the preliminary findings warrant attention and further investigation rather than dismissal. Science evolves, and so will our understanding of C15:0 as more research becomes available.”
Watch Dr Brad Stanfield's video on C15 and you may change your mind
He pulls the plug too early on C15:0 he’s not all knowing esp in this field! And he has his his own line of vitamins which he heavily promotes with each episode that aires.
I’m cautiously optimistic on C15:0 and I personally will use it
Just eat 50 grams of Grass Fed Butter. No need to supplement.
Not so fast cowboy - I Beg to differ, there is the issue of bioavailability how much can our body actually extract from this source minute amounts, so you need more much more and then it can become hazardous for your health and or weight, so unless you are tracking it measuring it and really vigilant - I’d still suggest taking a supplement just to cover your bases
Can we just state:
The Medical Profession doesn't know how the body works.
So, what else did the idiots remove from our food that is essential? I'm so pissed right now. Fix the damn food supply.
I understand your frustration but it is more complex and crazy than that: The medical profession is great when it comes to their specialty. However when it comes to nutrition, physiology, supplementation and how to optimize your health most do not have the training or knowledge.
The food Industry plays a big role with the lobby channels they have, government also plays a critical role with so many aspects that influence our environment and food choices - such as subsidies that are given to grow… and then are added to foods we eat to keep the price down - cresting highly processed foods that are cheaper than real food. The public health authorities, The food Industry etc all these form the environment we live in.
So all I’m saying is that there are so many players that influence and that the medical profession is but a small cog in this machine
@@TheVisserPodcast I do not want a specialist unless they are a specialist in the Human Body. It all works together. Any dis ease in the body is a symptom. Gout is a symptom. T2 diabetes is a symptom. Heart attack is a symptom. Arthritis is a symptom.
They recently discovered, after 90 years, a new EFA, Pentadecylic acid. This newly found EFA is likely the cause of the symptom, T2 diabetes, which is the main symptom that leads to heart attack.
Our food supply is a chemical shit storm unless you can afford grass fed grass finished organic.
Want a healthy population, start with the nutrition or lack there of in the food supply.
@@TheVisserPodcast So, just because the machine is so complicated it can't be fixed?
Bullshit. Grass fed, grass finished, organic, bullshit.
I call absolute overhype on all this c15 miracle substance stuff and if you want to at least watch an expert in deciphering research and what it really does mean check out Physionic video on the stuff and you might just save your money. Just my opinion but this smelt like mainly a clever marketing campaign from the start preying on peoples hope that a new wonder substance be discovered that will help just about anything
I don’t think that the milk and cheese is a good idea. Where can we get the C15 without eating trash foods like milk and dairy.
Fatty15 supplement
So you can buy fatty15 scam for $120 or buy the same amount for $25 as 1kg of goats cheese and get a lot more nutrients with it
Yes but you have to question the bioavailability, and source of product
As far as butter goes, you need butter from grass fed cows to maximize the good fats.
The bioavailability of your source is still poor so i would still supplement
He said c15 has only a double bond. I stopped watching the podcast. C15:0 IS REAL NAME. (0 ) IN THE NAME MEANS ZERO DOUBLE BONDS.
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Yes you are correct that was my bad, the point still remains though that it supposedly strengthens the cell walls
Thanks for catching that, didn’t even know I said that - my bad
DEBUNNKED TRASH. Research for yourselves people. Show some RCT's before everyone starts buying overpriced hyped garbage.
Disagree
Buddy, why take so much time talking about what you're going to talk about instead of talking about it? Your inability to get to the point is maddening.
I’m glad I was able to irritate you😂 thanks for the feedback
Dr McGregor ( thats the vegan doc with the skinny neck and jam jar base glasses) won't like this.
I bet, he won’t be the only one😂 but we’ll keep following the research
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You hit the nail on the head, with his muscle mass he’ll have a hard time at age
Talks about health ... does he know how unhealthy tattoos are?
Yeah but I love them, in life you have to evaluate decisions you make and it’s almost never black and white (I’m only talking within the moral compass). I do extreme sports, ride fast motorcycles, etc because thats where i connect to the source. My tattoo’s are about my life and my heritage - being an Islander.
On the other hand, there are things that have a far greater positive impact on your health that everyone should do! Resistance training 4 times a week heavy - VO2 max training 3 times a week and I eat as healthy as I can without being a prima-donna about it and that will get me to the 90 year atlete goal
The most important three basic things you can do for yourself bar none the rest is just fine tuning. Don’t be afraid go out there and live life to the fullest have s blast make a difference be kind and loving - big hug
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