We followed much of your advice. Got a really great result on an artist’s proof of a lithograph. We have owned the print for almost 38 years and it was given to us framed and matted. One quote for work to clean it up was $380. We could not justify that level of expense. Thanks for your video and advise.
New sub here. Chloramine T does work great. I use it for comic restoration on my channel. In fact I am going to produce an upload today and publish it next week on how to diminish tape stains a little better in conjunction with the Chloramine T bath. Thank you for sharing. You motivated me to conserve a few Dali prints I have been meaning to do.
could you tell me what you bleach bath mix ratio is, how much bleach to water? i also assume its better foir me to buy regular bleach versus gel etc? anything you can tell me i highly appreciate, i have hundreds of posters i want to restore. so thank you
@@joereid8557 around the 2:20 mark I explain how much I'm using and what to do, approximately 1-2 tbsp chloramine-t dissolved in warm water before adding to the print tub. There is no specific ratio, you're not going to hurt the prints by adding more or less of the bleach, just ensure you use vinegar at the very end to stop the bleaching action. Do not use regular or gel bleach! Powdered Chloramine-t is the correct bleach, there is a screenshot in the video of the correct bleach to get. For larger posters, you'll need an appropriately sized tub, I'd double to triple the bleach amount since you'll be working with more water as well, always better to start conservatively. You can let the bleach bath sit for hours to work as well, it does not have to be constantly agitated. Multiple bleach baths are okay also. Ensure you're posters colors will not bleed before you start and get plenty of larger blotter papers for drying. Even cleaning a few at a time takes most of a day, so you've got a long project ahead of you with hundreds on your plate. Good luck!
Love the video. I have and old print very decolorized. I don’t have access to chloramine. Can I use diluted house bleach to reach the same effect? I’ve use it on paper money to remove stains.
I don't know the chemistry behind conservation chemicals, I'm sorry. A certified professional conservationist should though. I'd try digging through this website, perhaps someone on their form can help. www.conservation-wiki.com/wiki/Book_and_Paper_Group_Wiki
It is not ethanol. The bleach bath is regular water plus chloramine t trihydrate (1-2 tbsp worth). You can purchase it online from Talas or similar conservation material companies. Don't forget a vinegar water bath when you're done with the bleaching.
Hi. Does it work with a drawing entirely made in ink (nankin)? Or will the bleach affect the ink (nankeen) ? The drawing is 50 years old and the paper is very yellowed.
You should put some very very tiny drops of water on the ink, here and there, in inconspicuous places, and see if it bleeds at all. Like when a rain drop sits on a leaf, like a little bubble of water. I use a magnifying glass to watch it and have a paper towel handy to dry it quickly if the ink runs into the water. If it does not bleed I'd try again with a bigger amount of the image, like with a artist sized paint brush swipe to ensure it won't bleed. If no bleeding you should be good! Sorry I don't know anything about that ink, good luck!
Would you have any experience using this solution to remove brown spots? I have a lithograph and it seems that it had a reaction to the matting? How would someone reach out to you if they wanted to use your services?
It is certainly possible/likely chloramine t will help. For foxing/small spots that don't wash out you can also use a stronger ratio of chloramine to water and paint it on individual spots then use vinegar to stop the bleach action. Just like a bath it will likely take a few rounds for it to fade considerably. If it's a really tricky spot you can try a combo of chlorine water and 10 percent hydrochloric acid, or cut out and patch the spots if it is that important to remove. I am just a hobbyist with an art and museum background, and I get the majority of my info from the web. If you want to email me some images of the print I'd be happy to take a look - j_sb_j@yahoo.com. I'd suggest looking into finding a professional restoration/conservation company, sometimes museums or libraries can help point you in the right direction to find someone...I often just search on Google maps for art restoration/conservation and see what is in your area-It will likely cost you one or a couple hundred dollars. Many will give free estimates in my experience. You'd have to weigh if the image is worth the $ to you or buy some chloramine and give it a go yourself! It's hard to royally screw up, and lithos, unless hand colored, should not have a problem handling water baths. Here's a great link I regularly visit for the best foundational paper conservation knowledge- www.conservation-wiki.com/wiki/Book_and_Paper_Group_Wiki
We followed much of your advice. Got a really great result on an artist’s proof of a lithograph. We have owned the print for almost 38 years and it was given to us framed and matted.
One quote for work to clean it up was $380. We could not justify that level of expense.
Thanks for your video and advise.
Fantastic!
New sub here. Chloramine T does work great. I use it for comic restoration on my channel. In fact I am going to produce an upload today and publish it next week on how to diminish tape stains a little better in conjunction with the Chloramine T bath. Thank you for sharing. You motivated me to conserve a few Dali prints I have been meaning to do.
could you tell me what you bleach bath mix ratio is, how much bleach to water? i also assume its better foir me to buy regular bleach versus gel etc? anything you can tell me i highly appreciate, i have hundreds of posters i want to restore. so thank you
@@joereid8557 around the 2:20 mark I explain how much I'm using and what to do, approximately 1-2 tbsp chloramine-t dissolved in warm water before adding to the print tub. There is no specific ratio, you're not going to hurt the prints by adding more or less of the bleach, just ensure you use vinegar at the very end to stop the bleaching action. Do not use regular or gel bleach! Powdered Chloramine-t is the correct bleach, there is a screenshot in the video of the correct bleach to get.
For larger posters, you'll need an appropriately sized tub, I'd double to triple the bleach amount since you'll be working with more water as well, always better to start conservatively. You can let the bleach bath sit for hours to work as well, it does not have to be constantly agitated. Multiple bleach baths are okay also.
Ensure you're posters colors will not bleed before you start and get plenty of larger blotter papers for drying. Even cleaning a few at a time takes most of a day, so you've got a long project ahead of you with hundreds on your plate. Good luck!
Love the video. I have and old print very decolorized. I don’t have access to chloramine. Can I use diluted house bleach to reach the same effect? I’ve use it on paper money to remove stains.
I don't know the chemistry behind conservation chemicals, I'm sorry. A certified professional conservationist should though. I'd try digging through this website, perhaps someone on their form can help. www.conservation-wiki.com/wiki/Book_and_Paper_Group_Wiki
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Thanks for the video. Can you help clarify the formula used for the bleach wash? Are you using ethanol?
It is not ethanol. The bleach bath is regular water plus chloramine t trihydrate (1-2 tbsp worth). You can purchase it online from Talas or similar conservation material companies. Don't forget a vinegar water bath when you're done with the bleaching.
What concentration ratio do you use for the Chloramine tea?
1-2 tbsp I mix into a jar of warm water, then I pour that into the water bath.
Hi. Does it work with a drawing entirely made in ink (nankin)? Or will the bleach affect the ink (nankeen) ? The drawing is 50 years old and the paper is very yellowed.
You should put some very very tiny drops of water on the ink, here and there, in inconspicuous places, and see if it bleeds at all. Like when a rain drop sits on a leaf, like a little bubble of water. I use a magnifying glass to watch it and have a paper towel handy to dry it quickly if the ink runs into the water. If it does not bleed I'd try again with a bigger amount of the image, like with a artist sized paint brush swipe to ensure it won't bleed. If no bleeding you should be good! Sorry I don't know anything about that ink, good luck!
Would you have any experience using this solution to remove brown spots? I have a lithograph and it seems that it had a reaction to the matting? How would someone reach out to you if they wanted to use your services?
It is certainly possible/likely chloramine t will help. For foxing/small spots that don't wash out you can also use a stronger ratio of chloramine to water and paint it on individual spots then use vinegar to stop the bleach action. Just like a bath it will likely take a few rounds for it to fade considerably. If it's a really tricky spot you can try a combo of chlorine water and 10 percent hydrochloric acid, or cut out and patch the spots if it is that important to remove. I am just a hobbyist with an art and museum background, and I get the majority of my info from the web. If you want to email me some images of the print I'd be happy to take a look - j_sb_j@yahoo.com. I'd suggest looking into finding a professional restoration/conservation company, sometimes museums or libraries can help point you in the right direction to find someone...I often just search on Google maps for art restoration/conservation and see what is in your area-It will likely cost you one or a couple hundred dollars. Many will give free estimates in my experience. You'd have to weigh if the image is worth the $ to you or buy some chloramine and give it a go yourself! It's hard to royally screw up, and lithos, unless hand colored, should not have a problem handling water baths. Here's a great link I regularly visit for the best foundational paper conservation knowledge- www.conservation-wiki.com/wiki/Book_and_Paper_Group_Wiki
@@SoreNebula thank you for responding! I appreciate you taking the time to do so!
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