Herman Mashaba - Opposition pact’s ‘Elephant in the Room’ exposed in Joburg Mayoral Drama
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Action SA leader Herman Mashaba exposes the Elephant in the Rainbow Alliance room for all to see - and urges that unless the anti-ANC alliance gets past this, the DA’s proposed Moonshot Pact is a dead duck. Mashaba shares the events leading up to the contentious vote for a new Mayor of Johannesburg, explaining how the obvious lessons must be absorbed by opposition parties if they are to have any hope of governing South Africa in a successful coalition after the 2024 National Election.
Please get Herman and John together on this form.
That won’t happen I think DA want form coalition with ANC
Follow the money.
John thinks he is too big for ActionSA. I think the new Rainbow coalition should have as its goal to vote out the ANC, EFF, AND also the DA!
Herman's ego will not allow for anything useful from being decided.
@@JF-NG It's the DA that refuses to work with its coalition partners, not "Mashaba's ego". Unfortunately the DA's blind voting cattle will continue to vote for it as it continues to sabotage attempts to remove the ANC because they want power at all costs.
It seems like the public need to have more insight into coalition agreements. So the public can punish the guilty parties!!
ruclips.net/video/mwldEzIEEgw/видео.html
If all the parties could work together so we ( SA) could COULD RID ITSELF OF THIS ANC/EFF MAFIA FOR GOOD
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣So say a child of a rapist
Mashaba, Action SA, IFP, ATM and PA have to work very hard on their campaigns. They should start seeing themselves governing without DA.
I hope that they have had that conversation before. Because it seems like the DA will only be happy if they(DA) incharge of proceedings. They want to be top dog so bad that they not able to work together with other parties
they dont have the numbers
DA don’t want the PA because they know PA is taking Western Cape next year, hands down!!! It’s coming, they can feel it, watch the space, DA is going to go into coalition with the ANC just so that they can retain WC!!
Herman , you have consistently shown true leadership , and without greed for power . Please just maintain your approach. You are the best leader.
True, Heman and Connie are great leaders.
DA will be punished come 2024
DA don’t want the PA because they know PA is taking Western Cape next year, hands down!!! It’s coming, they can feel it, watch the space, DA is going to go into coalition with the ANC just so that they can retain WC!!
No South Africans will be punished because they want to punish the DA.
Oh my papa ! The ego's are so big ! Shame on all the politicians!
The DA must never get tricked into supporting PA, The PA has always supported the ANC
My brother than you don't understand demographics. DA rely on colored vote. We are more than the whites. Think brother think....
DA don’t want the PA because they know PA is taking Western Cape next year, hands down!!! It’s coming, they can feel it, watch the space, DA is going to go into coalition with the ANC just so that they can retain WC!!
The PA is eating the votes of the DA that's why you guys are bitter
First of all, the DA does not need to get into bed with the PA. Every matter would be voted on on a case-by-case basis as Hermann said. Secondly what is the alternative to the DA refusing to work with the PA? The ANC stays???? Facts don't care about your feelings. Without the PA the ANC will stay.
Well in politics you ned to learn that the "my way or highway" doesn't work when you are in coalitions PA are looking for their interest but are willing to sacrifice to work with the pact. Unless you want to hand over the municipality to ANC+EFF thats it.
Simple. The DA shouldnt enter into a formal coalition with ASA in Joburg, but they should support ASA's mayoral candidate. Therefore, the DA can be an effective oppositions, ASA can give the PA positions, then we can all sit back and watch the PA flip flop again, through no fault of the DA.
Thanks Alec/Herman hopefully Action SA can grow their support base,then you won't need to coalition with the PA.Voters are putting themselves in this position.Current municipal services are an abomination.
It is time to move our votes from the DA to parties in coalition, that are serious about overthrowing the ANC/EFF. The DA is currently the formal opposition because our votes put them there. If they do not take responsible action with the mandate we have given them. We should move the mandate to parties who are prepared to take responsible action
As a DA voter, they doing exactly what they should be doing. They should not trust these dishonest clowns.
They constantly looking to setup the DA for failure and demand positions and power without the responsibility.
Thr DA must stand their ground and these clowns must grow up or get out the way.
I don't think that would be a good idea because both ActionSA and the PA have proven themselves to be flip floppers
This sort of thinking is the best way of splitting the vote, what we should be doing is double downing on trying to give the DA a larger majority of the vote so we can neutralise these bottom feeding parties.
@@JF-NG the DA has reached its voter cap. They will not get anywhere near what they need to top the ANC.
Voting for the ANC and the DA is the most biggest mistake 😢🙃🙄‼️
The DA has gone WOKE. And as they say 'go Woke go Broke'. Eish! This kind of arrogance is going to cost them.
The DA got one problem , Helen Zille. The young leaders they push forward is just the face of the party , Get rid of Helen and you will see the DA thrive.
I'm wondering if Gayton Makenzie has been too underhanded, playing fast and loose and creating significant doubt as to his trustworthyness.
DA don’t want the PA because they know PA is taking Western Cape next year, hands down!!! It’s coming, they can feel it, watch the space, DA is going to go into coalition with the ANC just so that they can retain WC!!
I'd like to thank the DA for giving the ANC power in 2024.thanking you in advance
U correct
You obviously have not listened to any of John Steenhuisen's speeches or announcements.
@@maseratifittipaldi let's see how my comment and your reply ages next year
As long as the DA has John and Helen at the helm they will never win over ZA.
Or as long as John and Helen are in charge, DA will be principled...
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1 Yes, and the DA principle to keep the ANC/EFF in power...
DA will be the reason why ANC will be in power in 2024. How can you not work with PA and EFF while they have the numbers
Gayton has gone back on his word previously so let's hope he doesn't do it again. We NEED to keep ANC/EFF as far away as we can.
@Magda Smith why is the EFF the enemy?
@@magdasmith1421 keep ANC/EFF away from power is a dream that will never be realized, the easiest thing would have been to keep ANC out of power and try to manage EFF but it will never happen that you keep both out of power especially nationally.
@@proud_african8148 I would have agreed with you, however, I feel EFF will mess up our country even more. I would just like people on Government who really care and serve citizens and rebuild our beloved country.
If your wife cheated on you, would you trust her again?
Interviews like this will be more interesting when both sides can be heard in real time.
DA don’t want the PA because they know PA is taking Western Cape next year, hands down!!! It’s coming, they can feel it, watch the space, DA is going to go into coalition with the ANC just so that they can retain WC!!
Talk on the street is previous DA supporters are moving their vote elsewhere
To be fair on DA it's unreasonable to expect them to support a party that is eating their base in a form of PA.
More like DA is just salty
You’re right the DA fear’s working with PA and Action SA will promote them come elections
@@beingbantu7528 The DA is just power hungry like ANC. I was hoping for something different but its all the same. I used to like them before but now they are centre left and woke. They care more about lgbtq stuff then the real issues affecting Sans. They need to get their heads out of their buttocks and pay attention to the needs of Sans
@@tonitappous2422 I used to fall for those great inspiring Ideas until I discovered that where DA governs White People are taken care of than black People.Then I realised that White Peoples Parties will do everything ryt except one THING........yep😢😢😢
For sure I get you fam, John Steenhuisen as a leader would make an excellent president of the Republic no doubt but the party and its "outlandish" woke policies is what made me drift away. Im more of a PA fan now, this country needs someone like Gayton Mckenzie to grab the country by the Ballas and say enough now you will listen to what I say and thats that. Thats why im done with DA, because its a snowflake centre left wing party
All parties NEED to unite to remove ANC/EFF. I just have a feeling about Gayton. Really pride and arrogance should be dropped so that we can get rid of ANC/EFF.
Agree 💯
To much small party's in South Africa and I pray that God open eyes and work in people's eyes to vote for the right persone who really want the country safe and love all the people there !! No more hate and rassime !! EfF and ANC is not my choice!! Think with open eyes !! If you need a peaceful country !!!!
So why can't the DA put their pride and arrogance aside? Why should it be the Gayton? All I see on socials is insults from DA to th PA
@@edwarddiegaard6557 I didn't say Gayton should put his pride and arrogance aside, I was talking about my party, the DA. I'm just worried about Gayton as he has gone back on his word previously.
DA don’t want the PA because they know PA is taking Western Cape next year, hands down!!! It’s coming, they can feel it, watch the space, DA is going to go into coalition with the ANC just so that they can retain WC!!
JOHN AGREED, BUT THE REAL DA LEADER MADAM ZILLE DECIDED OTHERWISE.
Alec -It is clear HZ does not like Mckenzie - That s it.The DA can forget their Moonshot Pact - I for one will NOT VOTE for the DA in 2024!!!!
The retardation of progress for personal issues is making me f*k maal
The DA has lost the plot. They also did not want Gayton Mckenzie to to be Mayor. The DA is shooting themselves in the foot yet again. The DA is going to lose support with their arrogance and stubbornness.
As it should, who can vote for such a nonsense party that put pride before the citizens. Thank God, I don't vote for this rubbish.
DA and ANC have the same handlers WEF, WHO, Bill Gates, Klaus Schwabb and the rest.
feels like that to me for real
I am also believing that globalists are behind these two parties, all other parties have the best interest of this country at heart.
What is the DA thinking!! Geeeez, I hope they come to their senses.
What do you suggest? Abandoning the principles on which the MP is based? Lying to the electorate? Adopting ANC /EFF culture?
Please get these three parties on your show to hash this out please. So we can get the DA stop their rubbish
Sorry Mr Mashaba but I don't think the PA will stay if the ANC offers them more lucrative positions at any level. They will serve the highest bidder. I hope they prove me wrong, but I am not convinced that they will.
agreed and the PA want the top positions. DA has the most councilors
When has the PA promised to stop working with the ANC & EFF? When will they stop and for how long 🤷🏽♂️
Astute observation.
ActionSA is attracting South Africans across racial lines and PA is also attracting the Western Cape rural vote, so the DA is just fighting for its survival as the EFF also wants to be the official opposition
Its a while DA mess, hope ActionSA rises to be the official opposition as to leas coalitions
DA can't keep the ANC out and its neither growing too
In Jo'burg DA must vote with the other coalitions partners on issue by issue and let ActionSA unite the opposition block
See the demographic breakdown of voters for the various political parties in this article : " Leon Schreiber: DA now draws the most support in urban SA ", Businesslive.
Well spoken mr mashaba PA is the write one for jhb mayer
DA wont be as big a deal come 2024 in my view...afrikaans voters are moving to ff+, coloured voters to PA and black voters to ActionSA. So come 2024 i doubt DA + ANC will reach 51% together cos ANC is going down too, Ifp is eating them in kzn so as other parties in other provinces ..we keep watching
I agree. That’s why they keep their options open with the anc come 2024.
The DA MUST PUBLICLY TELL THEIR VOTERS THAT THEY WON’T JOIN AN ANC COALITION. I’ve listened to Helen Zille the other day and she couldn’t deny the possibility.
John Steenhuisen has said that the day he was re-elected I think.
I think they might form coalition with corrupt ANC
DA don’t want the PA because they know PA is taking Western Cape next year, hands down!!! It’s coming, they can feel it, watch the space, DA is going to go into coalition with the ANC just so that they can retain WC!!
@Jasonv van Heerden you are too generous to mention ANC and the word honest in 1 sentence.
It would only be a last resort option, to protect SA from an ANC/ EFF doomsday pact which would completely destroy SA!
Herman can’t promise anything on the behalf of the PA no matter how much Alec Hogg and Rob Hersov promote Gayton. No one needs the PA🤯
The PA is about populism. We need quality. Expertise and experience. Servitude.
It's about demographics, if you don't know you don't know that DA rely on colored vote. And I thank you.
@@francoismatolla6113 The DA is the only party that has every colour roughly equally and need to smokkel with flip floppers.
I am absolutely gobsmacked & terribly confused!? The DA were my heroes... AND NOW? They have got a sh... load to answer for. PLEASE Alec get J Steenhuizen on the your show ASAP to clear up this confusion & MESS?!?!?!?
Thank you
Herman is so ‘confused’ when he wants to dis the DA and this is a strategy which Alec & Hersov support and who are both Gayton gevrek. The PA flip flops and they blame the DA like they don’t have benefits with the ANC.
Unstable coalitions that includes the DA doesn't work (playing boss). Gayton is a loose canon (unfortunately), and can't be trusted, his track record shows that. Coalitions with the DA is seen by the voters as DA-led (as the second biggest party), and when they fall apart or the specific metro become ungovernable, the DA is seen as the failed specific government in that context, be it local or municipal. I understand their reluctance to work with the PA completely. Rather let them fail as government, without hurting the DA image. DA will be more effective as a strong oposition rather than be seen as a failure, and that has my vote.
Yes, why get rushed into a coalition with the PA when they have never agreed to stop working with the ANC and will continue to do so for their own benefit.
Exactly, the da is currently being blamed for all thr failures in johannesburg, I think the DA should push for an actionsa mayor and that will be the best Joburg.
The DA has every right to promote their candidate mayor. How arrogant of Mashaba to think otherwise. Does he not understand that, in a democracy, the more votes you get the stronger your voice?
She really is the best 🤷🏽♂️. I battle to understand Herman’s ethics when he sounds so Trumpian always talking about himself, like he didn’t have anyone in his team helping and when we are really talking about the future mayor 😫
The real arrogance is in the manner in which the DA treats its coalition partners...absolutely no respect, just raw arrogance!!!
Voetsek arrogant DA, poor Herman, he is really trying hard. DA's own goals continues.
DA is power hungry. Their on interest is to lead and not to follow, even if other parties have better ideas.
The DA playing Russian roulette with our life’s from Helen’s brilliance will forever regret these missed opportunities
the dlf claimed kingmsker gayton mckenzie are the real snake who strike when you turn your back he has done that over and over again Pretoria jib swellhead how can we gaaurentee he is trustworthy how can action sa trust him also let go of your personel grudge with hele one of the more brilliant politicians in rsa
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The DA and the ANC are looking at forming a coalition government come 2024.
U correct
Because they fool us in acting 🎭as the opposition party, they are one.
Carl, please read up more before making this statement and understand the true understanding of what has been said.
False, as false as Herman being confused why the DA would propose the best mayor, Mpho Phalatse. Herman is prepared to work with Gayton WHILE he’s working with the ANC all over the country and has never promised to stop.
@@cllrkadeguerreiro4767 I have "read up" - well as much as the politicians want you to hear. I suggest you listen to Helen Zille's presentation at the resent Biz News conference.
It is indeed God given opportunity to unseat the corrupt anc eff coalition in CoJ.
While the beating around the bush goes on in South Africa our country goes down the drain.... Can you imagine the great potential of this country in the right hands, what a paradise it would be? A South Africans paradise for all people and races, super hospitals, police, services, housing, jobs, success and prosperity. We could beat the West with our huge labor force and massive land and climate. We could all be happy and well fed.
So it seems like the PA holds all the cards and therefore Gayton demands being the mayor and then next he'll want to be the President.
Gayton has no problem with working with the ANC.
I think that's the problem the DA is having with this coalition but they need to get around this issue.
correct
I think more than anything they don’t want to work with a party that’s eating up their voter base in the western cape. Action SA is not a threat to DA because it is prominent in Gauteng but if it was in the western cape too then they would be labelled the same way as the PA
All I’m hoping for is that they put all their interests aside and do what is best for the country and it’s people. Which is to remove the ANC by all means
DA want to get in bed with the ANC they are keeping their options open. Why are they not saying the ANC is enemy no ONE instead of EFF, atlease the ANC is the ruling party.
The real chessmaster King Julius is quietly watching this circus.
The DA is the problem they are arrogant and refuse to treat other opposition parties as equal partners. I am so disgusted with them. I voted for them but won't vote DA again.
You clearly do not understand the issue and have bought into the baseless mainstream media narrative. The PA is the real issue. They are not interested in serving the people, they are in government for personal gain and influence. They have shown zero loyalty to the coalition and continue to make unreasonable demands when they see fit. They make the coalition, they break the coalition. They essentially have each coalition partner by the balls. When the ANC and EFF come with a better deal, the PA bails. You cannot work with people like this. But the DA is the problem, right? Wake up!
They are not equal partners if they don't have the same amount of support! The party with the most votes must be the party with the most positions, even in partnership. It's like a company, the shareholder with the most shares appoints the most directors to protect the shareholder's interests. Simple!
Relax. Don't lambast the DA running a coalition has many difficulties with differences from the different party's agendas and ideologies. DA has vast experience with working in coalitions. Imagine for one minute working with a bunch of of school brats that all want to be king of the class and want it all their way. Can you see Gayton standing back for a second and falling into line for the sake of not being number one in charge and doing so for the sake of the country as a whole. He's too brash. Can you see him as a President of a country? All said I'd like to see him tell Russia to take a hike... 'with love' though.
@@NOTA-noneoftheabove Well, even in your analogy, the majority shareholder must still treat minority shareholders with respect and follow a consultative process in decision making. He cannot just make unilateral decisions because he’s got more votes, that is precisely what is called arrogance. And it is this arrogance that will undo the DA
Rather in opposition than to give PA an unfair advantage for 24 election
Then be prepared for the return of ANC in 2024, which one is worse to give PA an unfair advantage or to have ANC back to clean out what's left in the coffers?
Do you not see there’s a strong EFF-leaning faction in the ANC? The ANC is a failed party. Come 24 they’ll form a coalition with the EFF to preserve the status quo as much as possible. The DA will be left out in the cold.
viva ActionSa
I dont blame the DA for no committing to these flip flop parties. At least they stand by their principals.
What principles..only when it suits them..they always come up with a solution but when time to negotiate they play big boys..and that I promise you it's their downfall...
The DA shows it's true colours as the controlled opposition it always was..... This is good for South Africa. Let us have a new and clean system .
these guys are not serious ...........so disheartening
I stopped what I was doing and listened attentively to this interview
Thank you Herman for showing the leadership you are showing
Categorically you just said that you have no problem with the DA fielding their candidate but let’s do it in a way that ensures as the coalition we get a good person with a good majority so that decisions and good governance can be unimpeded
There is no point fielding a candidate like the DA but they not speaking to anyone which simply sets them up to fail
I am lost for words , gobsmacked that a party like the DA are blind to this
Honestly it’s poking at my core that they speak about a moonshot pact and presented a way to prosperity but when it comes to actioning that so call plan they fall apart
At the recent BN conference we heard there how the DA previously changed their minds over a weekend after agreeing on something
Is this the real DA, when one peels back the layers it’s exposing a party not sincere and lacking leadership on how to work in coalitions .
With this opportunity currently presenting itself for the birth of a Golden Coalition to demonstrate that they can set aside differences and work together solidly to get this country right and as a prelude to what can be expected nationally , logic fails me that a party like the DA needs convincing considering that JHb metro is at stake . Here is an opportunity by swallowing pride and treating people with respect that the city can have a large majority to bring about much change that all South Africans are begging for .
We as South Africans need to watch this closer
The DA are displaying arrogance at the cost of our votes
Should they fail to exercise humility and come to the party for a far greater good for this country , the opportunity to eradicate corruption and mismanagement will be lost.
@Alec Hogg perhaps you can get Steenhuizen asap to explain their position or better still convince him to join this coalition and sincerely work together
This is the real problem. People swayed by populism.
Lol DA is talking to the ANC for 2024, it's all just a mess😂
Well done DA 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽stick to your guns. We're often tempted to make deals when we shouldn't. If you trust a snake, you'll get bit. It's impossible to travel with the wrong person and reach the right result . . . in the high calling of our daily work. Do not be misled: "Bad company corrupts good character” (1 Cor. 15:33-34).
🙄🤔😳🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
💯 Herman can’t promise anything on the behalf of the PA no matter how much Alec Hogg and Rob Hersov promote Gayton.
The EFF did the same against ANC,IFP and DA since then are called names !!!
Spot on Thembela.. the idea of voting on a case by case basis is just bad.. before we know it we voting for the devil.
DA obviously is not serious about getting rid of the ANC/EFF, So sad. another lost vote How many more?
The submission that they don't want the P.A. is a ruse. Watch them
DA is aware that ActionSA is desperate for their approval hence they are doing what they are doing
It is not about "approval". The PA is using blackmail for personal advancement.
ActionSA is desperate to fix our country not for DA's approval, DA does not have the numbers alone, ANC is even much stronger than the DA
No hope for this country sorry guys.
I wish I could say you wrong
No hope for this government, but you can still believe in your fellow countrymen.
Honest patriots that want the country and its youth to succeed. Even if they are few and far between these days, you shouldn't give up hope so easily.
What is wrong with the DA?
They must be careful about thinking they are superior!
What happened about working together with other parties to oust the ANC/EFF?
Please wake up DA!
You are the 1 who needs to wake up. These parties all signed a coalition agreement until these smaller parties reneged on it. Judging by your comments, you are still very immature politically. You need to realise that not all parties have the same ambitions of removing the anc/eff from power. The pa has already made it known, they will go with whoever can give them the best offer and they have demonstrated just that by going against a signed coalition agreement to join the anc/eff. You should direct your anger there, not the DA, they havent acted unprincipled in this case.
@@ash9744 so you think you know it all!....WOW!!!!
@@karenlombard4384 Is that how you defend your argument?
@@ash9744 are you looking for an argument with me?
@@karenlombard4384 If you are willing to defend your argument/point, then yes.
Yes Herman you need to stand Strong against the DA they are Not for the people!!! What they have just done proves it's all about power..
This is why people dont vote. Doesnt the DA have the most votes out of the opposition parties? Gayton wants to be Mayor and DA says no, if I read between the lines
But DA doesn't have numbers either they need PA, is a give and take situation because there's no outright winner, without PA DA can't run Joburg.
No one needs the PA😱
@@proud_african8148 and thats why the ANC will win. fo Gayton he wants the top job but doesnt have the votes, so he can bully his way to the top
The DA have chosen the wrong person in Mpho Palatse. She just does not have it.
Comer on coalition stop messing aground no time to waste.DA get come along / get along b4 this nthg left of SA
Very repetitive. I don’t hold out much hope for any consensus among the opposition. The ANC /EFF government is a given.
DA is arrogant period.
Helen Zille is giving ANC vibes.
She's over 70 years old, and she should retire. We are tired of grandparents running this country.
She's one of them with brains and knows how to govern. Most are just there to do nothing for the huge salary and perks. She'll make a brilliant President and rid this bunch of freeloader louts of their comfy lifestyles, granny or great granny.
Dont focus on the ANC focus on having an impact on the ground
Bro is passionate to change the country but getting the wrong horse
sometimes i feel like the DA and ANC are just different sides of the same coins,
and the DA caters to whites, while the ANC caters to blacks,
while they make deals with the same transnational western agencies,
but thats just my opinion - not provable fact
The people of Jo'burg voted for the DA! That's it! What's with all this nonsense? While all these little parties are playing games at their creche the citizens of Jo'burg city have to watch and listen to all these shenanigans while the city is falling apart. Stop fighting get on with the job.
What is this nonsense with the DA , they cannot seem to work together . This is not new, they are like a bunch of teenagers who think they are the be all and end all....I have always voted for DA and will not support them any more . DA wake up and get over yourselves and stop acting like a bunch of teenagers .
Was it not the Pa with action SA siding with them that got us all in the mess we in first place. DA won’t be extorted. Good rand your ground and action SA should do the same stand by them instead of bashing them all the time Pa this and pa that. They can’t be trusted
Herman is obsessed with The DA
Yes, I agree. Mashaba is more focused on unseating the DA as the Official Opposition than he is on unseating the ANC!!
ActionSA is proving to be a real sour grapes political party!
Alec why don't you act as the convenor/moderator/independent party to bring ALL opposition parties together. This ongoing to and through between these parties is extremely irritating and a huge waste of time. By now they should have been together already planning who (with the best skills) should take what positions next year.
Alec is not acting like a balanced journalist and will always interview the PA & ASA before the DA even though they mainly talk about the DA🤯. Who sponsors BIZNEWS🤷🏽♂️ Rob Hersov who is Gayton gevrek and likes Trump wannabes. Alec Hogg knows this but won’t talk about it or cross question the woffeling of Herman the confused ruclips.net/video/mwldEzIEEgw/видео.html
Everyone thinks Herman has a problem but ACDP rejected the moonshot pact outright. The FF+ has not committed and wants to negotiate. There's massive cognitive dissonance with DA supporters. I won't make the same mistake twice😤
I am not convinced that DA is keen to run the metros in Gauteng, they have been exposed with corruption lately in Tshwane and Ekurhuleni i don't think they are comfortable with that.
I have always voted DA but if you guys are just looking for power like the ANC/EFF then you wont get my vote
Herman is a slow learner in SA politics, it is painful to watch. DA is a major player and they understand the game.
Action SA, where are you in the Western Cape ?
Like Helen Zille said, ASA and all other coalition partners got played when they backed the pa. They thought the pa would back Funzi, resulting in a runoff between Gwamanda and Funzi, which would then force the DA to support Funzi. The pa decided to just back Gwamanda and it is for this reason that the DA have learnt not to trust the pa.
Pity not everyone learns at the same pace.
Helen Zeiler may be a racist to the core, but she is an astute politician and apparently quite intelligent unlike the academically challenged Steenhuisen. she and most intelligent white people know that the day ANC loses power is the day that white privilege and rampant racism will come to an end. Mr Mashaba may be an astute businessman but he definitely still has a lot to learn about politics.
Problem is your policy in privatisation.
My opinion is this, ActionSA and the PA must realise that the party with the most votes should by right be able to put their candidate forward for Mayor. The PA and ActionSA are small parties and their roles in governance of Johannesburg can still be important, just not the mayor. in other words, like any business, the person with the most shares is the chairman or CEO. Here we have small parties that by rights would not have had any governance position if they were to try wining a position on the council and have never truly run a municipality. This is a ridiculous situation and coalition agreements need to reflect the positions in the hierarchy and the positions must remain the same until the next election. This vote of no confidence is bs if it does not subscribe to that.
Whichever way you look at it, even in a business, the person with the highest number of shares does not automatically become chairman or CEO, there are processes to appoint people to positions.
By unilaterally fielding their own candidate without consulting its coalition partners, the DA has again proven that it is an arrogant party that has no respect for its coalition partners.
ASA must get the PA to agree that they will not work with the ANC & EFF or otherwise this is just BS.
Because of politicans this country is in turmoil.
SNAKES AND RATS TEAMING-UP TO GRAB THE CHEESE ( SOUTH AFRICA, )
ActionSa didn't support DA in Ekurhuleni last week.
I feel someone is forcing action SA to work with DA, because nonself respecting party can show this kind of desparation. In short all parties made presentation to Da and Da after came and took decision to field their candidate as it knows they are just their puppets.
The DA are the only political party that have the people intelligent enough to rule South Africa properly and in line with the constitution and free market values.
"I can't join a criminal enterprise" yet you so adamant on working the Patriotic Alliance😂😂... The double standards from you position dishonourable member is palpable.
That's why DA chose to stand back on this one. Reputation is important in politics😂😂😂
herman will stifle AcionSA's growth
Why does Herman still negotiate with the EFF
That because your DA is so unpredictable and arrogant.
Poor Herman his handlers have given him tough task to unseat ANC and EFF, if was just to unseat ANC it would have been easier but to unseat both is impossible, as for DA they don't hate ANC as much as Herman do, he will be left in the cold come 2024 when DA/ANC form government of national unity. Herman is a political novice he's busy inheriting DA enemies, DA doesn't have a problem with ANC it's problem is EFF.
Da must go to coalition with ANC in 2024 thats the mandate from.the funders.
Why s there animosity with Herman by the DA
DA is so ignorant, they have too much pride over the citizens of Jhb. How can they always want things to go their way all the time.
DA is scared of Herman and ActionSA...watch out for the 2024 election results!
It's a biparty system, the DA (Liberal Communlist/Fascist) with ANC (Communist) both Globalist policy centric. Objective of DA is to be the architect & decision maker (in the driivng seat) to manipulate the genuine opposition represented by smaller political parties to maintain the status quo. imho
A few high ranking DA leaders already hinted at forming a coalition gov with the ANC at next year's national elections.
Ntate Mashaba, when are you folks going to realize where the DA stands? It looks like the DA is playing a very complicated deceitful Politics. May God help our leaders with truths and sincerity 🛐🇿🇦
Not trusting the PA is entirety reasonable. Gayton has a history of breaking his word and flip-flopping and he has never agreed to stop working with the ANC. Herman promising on his behalf behalf is meaningless.
One needs serious patience to listen to Mashaba 😩 the speed should be on 1.5x 😂
😂 he must let that white boss of him to talk more because to listen to Mashaba you need high level of concentration.
Gayton has gone back on his word previously. I hope he doesn't do it again. He is not going to make a good Mayor.
Gayton has NOT gone back on his word. Please listen what Herman JUST explained.
@@chrislee5421 He has before - did you not listen to Alec Hogg asking Mashaba about trusting him
@@magdasmith1421 I’ve heard Alex’ question AND I’ve ALSO heard Herman’s explanation of what really happened.
Gayton has flipped on more than one reason and he is working with the ANC all over the country and Herman doesn’t mention that or what Gayton has committed to?
,"taking Da abuse for south africa" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣is deeper than that ms Mashaba. Is the resources you requesting that make you take the abuse🤣🤣🤣