Wow…a sobering message on a topic largely ignored in Christendom and even within the rightly dividing grace movement. Thank you for your ongoing contributions to the edification of the body!
There is a saying. The creator is forever just, and He deals justly in dispensing justice to the unjust, not just non-believers who rejected His gracious gift, but also who are justified i.e. the believers who accepted His gift of salvation by grace through faith.
We're going to be judged at the Judgment seat but not for sin our sins have already been forgiven in christ. So God would be a false judge for judging us for sin that he's already judged in christ. What we're going to be judged for is how we walked as members of his body according to doctrine. How we built on the foundation according to paul. That's what we're going to be judged for but no sin because we in the spirit cannot sin we've been circumcised with the circumcision made without hands our soul has been circumcised from our flesh so it's actually impossible for us on a spiritual level to sin. Because the price of sin is death and Christ paid that price so we don't have any price to pay death sting doesn't have any sway or hold of us at all. Sin has no dominion over us. This is why we should walk in newness of life and we should live right and do right we should hopefully that was just evil in cling to that which is good. But again not a single member of the body will ever be judged for sin because nobody in Christ is a sinner. In the spirit because we've been circumcised from the flesh through the operation of Christ in us the moment we believe the gospel. It's impossible for us to sin. Now we're going to sin in the flesh that's why we're waiting for the Redemption of our flesh. But in the spirit that is impossible we've been circumcised from it through the operation of Christ in us the moment we believe and we've had his righteousness imputed to us. So we're not going anywhere
Rom. 7 [14] For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. [15] For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. [16] If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. [17] Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. [18] For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. [19] For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. [20] Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
How do we as Christian’s have peace down here knowing that we have to stand before Christ and give a account for every thing we have done sounds pretty scary , so once again how do we have peace knowing this day is coming?
@shanesettle2115 We are blessed with all spiritual blessings (Eph 1:3), we are complete in him (Col 2:10), etc. We also have peace with God (Rom 5:1). Nothing that happens at the judgment seat of Christ will change any of the foregoing. Hope this helps. Grace.
There is no condemnation at the JSOC “every man shall have praise of God” (1 Corinthians 4:5). But we should “walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit” (Romans 8:1 and 4) because the law condemns us and revives our sinful flesh (Romans 7:13).
The Father forgave all sin at the cross (2 Cor 5: 18-20) we who accept salvation in Christ alone (1Cor 15:1-4) are not judged for sin at the Judgement Seat of Christ.😊
Verses you mentioned had made me always doubt about the OSAS doctrine. Words like condemnation have always made me wonder. For example, romans 8:1-2 sounds like as long as you walk in the Spirit and not in the flesh (not in the sins of galatians 5: 19) you aren't condemned. Sounds like works salvation because what else be the result of condemnation but eternal punishment? Although it may not apply to us, but Jesus said "he who does not believe has already been condemned". In this verse, what was the condemnation? I'm assuming hell. How can we know for certain what is the condemnation of romans 8:1? The other verse you mention on Timothy 3:7 I think it was, about not allowing a novice to become a bishop, how can a saved person fall into the condemnation of the devil if salvation can't be lost? I say salvation because what was the condemnation of the devil but to lose his status and not ever be saved again?
Where in God's Word does it say that having no sin (sin debt PAID at calvary) makes one righteous? Gift of righteousness or gift of sin forgiveness? Debt Paid for sin or paid for righteousness? Me, having no sin does that make me as righteous as God himself? Or do I need that gift based on my taking God at his word (faith) like Abraham?
Read a few verses before the ones listed and you will see Paul is referring to Abraham's faith. Romans 4:20-25 [20]He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; [21]And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. [22]And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. [23]Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; [24]But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; [25]Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. Romans 5:1-2 [1]Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: [2]By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
@@BillfromtheHills Does believing in what Christ accomplished at Calvary remove my sin or do I get the 'Gift of Righteousness? (is it perfect incorruptible righteousness or is it just sin forgiveness?)
@@gh-cz1vk Romans 5:8-21 [8]But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. [9]Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. [10]For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. [11]And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. [12]Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: [13](For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. [14]Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. [15]But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. [16]And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. [17]For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) [18]Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. [19]For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. [20]Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: [21]That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
I love this guy. But like us all sometimes we are off on somethings. I think that he is not aware of Romans being mostly aimed at the Jews and some are under the kingdom plan and some under grace. Romans 12 [19] Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Under grace God is not doweling out repayment for sin against another person. But under the kingdom program he was.
Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:1-2 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world." Jesus paid the full penalty of all sins on the cross. 1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. Jesus became sin. 2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. Salvation is a free gift. Romans 5:15 “But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.” Romans 3:24, KJV "Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:" Ephesians 2:8 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:” Jesus died FOR HIS ENEMIES....therefore forgiving His enemies of their sins. Romans 5:6-10 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. Ephesians 1:7 “In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;” Ephesians 4:32 “And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.” Only those who have imputed righteousness is justified. Romans 4:22-25 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. Romans 4:5 - But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Romans 3:22 - Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: Romans 1:17 - For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. 1 Corinthians 1:30 - But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: 2 Corinthians 5:21 - For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Again Romans Chapter 2 is not talking to the body of Christ it's talking to the Jews in time past Paul is reminiscing in that verse if you would have kept the context instead of taking out of its context to use according to your contact which is false you would have known this again this is really upsetting to me as someone who's listening to virtually all of your videos you're going the wrong way here you're not being honest and you're falling into this nonsense. Romans Chapter 2 is Paul talking about time past then Romans chapter 3 verse 21 is but now and it's primarily talking about Israel's fall and how they fell and how they're going to be judged. Bleeding into but now explaining the body of Christ so you're ignoring the context here and you're twisting it
It seems David preaches limited atonement. This unbiblical belief has been spread by generations of those who practice Christendom. Christendom is religious beliefs that are error based on tradition and paganism. It stems from the Catholic Church and has found its way into Protestantism.
@@ColumbusBibleChurch I've already watched this video you sent me you do preach limited atonement. Because David is saying in this video. And please listen carefully to what I'm saying here okay he is saying in this video. That the body of Christ is going to be judged for sin at the Judgment seat of Christ and the verse he quotes to prove this is Romans 2 which is talking to Israel the body of Christ has no sin in it it is sinless. Because you are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands your spirit and body are circumcised from one another the moment you are saved you were also sealed with the Holy Spirit unto and until the day of redemption. When you stand before God he's not going to judge you for sin because there is no member of the body of Christ that can sin in the spirit your flesh will sin but your flesh is going to be destroyed the moment the catching away happens. But that has nothing to do with the Judgment seat your sins have already been paid for in Christ the moment you believe the gospel your sins were paid for. You already made righteous through Christ spiritually this notion in this video he makes by saying we're going to be judged for sin during the Judgment seat of Christ is implying that we in the body of Christ can sin in the spirit. And that is no because you are saying one there's sin in the body of Christ and two God is going to judge me for sin when I've already been given Absolution from sin the moment I believe the gospel it totally contradicts the gospel and the reason why David is doing this I think is so that way members of the body of Christ who are not leaving the way they should will live better but that is corrupt to say that we in Christ are sinners. Physically In the Flesh we are but in the spirit we're already secure. And I've seen many pastors go down this road good pastors who rightly divided. Start putting false Doctrine into things the fact that David would have gone into this the way he did by quoting Romans 2 Romans chapter 1 in Romans Chapter 2 are Paul reminiscing about Israel about time passed the present and the things to come leading into Romans 3:21 but now where Paul his entire argument converges in to 1 perception in Romans 3:21 now David is ignoring this this is a blatant perversion of scripture. So Dave has to get this fixed he has to stop this before it gets worse if he starts preaching more heresy if he starts to preach more hyper dispensationalism which this is the start of that. It's going to get worse. And I will not support ever anyone who tries to tell me that the body of Christ is going to be judged for sin when the scripture is completely against it it is a perversion of scripture to say that and it attacks the body of Christ and salvation as a whole so David better fix this. Because I'm not going to be a supporter of his anymore and many friends of mine won't be. I will be making a video going through this video explaining this nonsense but don't twist what I'm saying out of context I've watched every video from David Reed and for the most part I agree with the man but this is just complete nonsense
@@ColumbusBibleChurch You preach that Jesus's blood wasn't sufficient enough to wash away the sins of the whole world. You preach limited atonement. The blood of Jesus was sufficient to wash away the sins of ALL PEOPLE...those who are his enemies, as well as those who believe.
Tell me David....Does your belief make the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross true? Does someone's unbelief make Jesus's sacrifice false? The sacrifice was made once....not every time a person believes it. So you believe that sacrifice was not sufficient enough to wash away all sin?...At the time it was made. You do realize you have some Catholic beliefs you are preaching when you claim a person must do something in order to "activate" their forgiveness of sins. Christ forgave the sins of the whole world....It is up to the individual to believe this to be saved. No one is waiting for Christ to forgive them.
Wrong. The lost do not pay the penalty for their sins. IF THAT WAS THE CASE then Jesus did NOT die for the sins of the whole world. If that was the case then Jesus did NOT pay the full penalty of sin on the cross. If that was the case then Jesus did not become sin and did not receive the full wrath of God upon Himself. If that was the case then there is no free gift of salvation. This teaching that unsaved people will pay for their sins is heresy. Jesus died for ALL SINS...not some. Dying for all sins means EVERYONE is forgiven of ALL SINS. So why do the unsaved go to Hell? Because in order to go to Heaven you must have God's imputed righteousness. An unsaved person is NOT RIGHTEOUS and therefore can not go to Heaven. The ONLY way to be imputed righteousness is by belief in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross.
@@joe_zeay Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:1-2 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world." Jesus paid the full penalty of all sins on the cross. 1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. Jesus became sin. 2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. Salvation is a free gift. Romans 5:15 “But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.” Romans 3:24, KJV "Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:" Ephesians 2:8 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:” Jesus died FOR HIS ENEMIES....therefore forgiving His enemies of their sins. Romans 5:6-10 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. Ephesians 1:7 “In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;” Ephesians 4:32 “And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.” Only those who have imputed righteousness is justified. Romans 4:22-25 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. Romans 4:5 - But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Romans 3:22 - Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: Romans 1:17 - For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. 1 Corinthians 1:30 - But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: 2 Corinthians 5:21 - For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. Nothing I said is unbiblical. Nothing I stated is not the truth. Religion always makes assumptions about things they don't understand. Do not fall into the religious doctrines of people who would lead you astray...intentionally or not.
@@joe_zeay Does believing in what Christ accomplished at Calvary remove my sin or do I get the 'Gift of Righteousness? (is it perfect incorruptible righteousness or is it just sin forgiveness?)
Excellent message dealing with an issue nobody wants to deal with honestly thank you brother Barney
Wow…a sobering message on a topic largely ignored in Christendom and even within the rightly dividing grace movement. Thank you for your ongoing contributions to the edification of the body!
@James Alann Thanks, James. Alleluia.
Love this, thanks Dave ! Touches the heart and has been a topic on my mind and hungry to be taught about from the Word Of God.
@Jeff McGraw Thanks for the kind words. Alleluia.
@@ColumbusBibleChurch Most definitely! God works in mysterious ways and His ways are beyond finding out.
There is a saying. The creator is forever just, and He deals justly in dispensing justice to the unjust, not just non-believers who rejected His gracious gift, but also who are justified i.e. the believers who accepted His gift of salvation by grace through faith.
This message was 🔥🔥🔥‼️
I have watched many of your videos and they are a blessing! I do not agree with this one, but I do enjoy most of your teachings.
We're going to be judged at the Judgment seat but not for sin our sins have already been forgiven in christ. So God would be a false judge for judging us for sin that he's already judged in christ. What we're going to be judged for is how we walked as members of his body according to doctrine. How we built on the foundation according to paul. That's what we're going to be judged for but no sin because we in the spirit cannot sin we've been circumcised with the circumcision made without hands our soul has been circumcised from our flesh so it's actually impossible for us on a spiritual level to sin. Because the price of sin is death and Christ paid that price so we don't have any price to pay death sting doesn't have any sway or hold of us at all. Sin has no dominion over us. This is why we should walk in newness of life and we should live right and do right we should hopefully that was just evil in cling to that which is good. But again not a single member of the body will ever be judged for sin because nobody in Christ is a sinner. In the spirit because we've been circumcised from the flesh through the operation of Christ in us the moment we believe the gospel. It's impossible for us to sin. Now we're going to sin in the flesh that's why we're waiting for the Redemption of our flesh. But in the spirit that is impossible we've been circumcised from it through the operation of Christ in us the moment we believe and we've had his righteousness imputed to us. So we're not going anywhere
Rom. 7 [14] For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
[15] For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
[16] If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
[17] Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
[18] For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
[19] For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
[20] Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
How do we as Christian’s have peace down here knowing that we have to stand before Christ and give a account for every thing we have done sounds pretty scary , so once again how do we have peace knowing this day is coming?
@shanesettle2115 We are blessed with all spiritual blessings (Eph 1:3), we are complete in him (Col 2:10), etc. We also have peace with God (Rom 5:1). Nothing that happens at the judgment seat of Christ will change any of the foregoing. Hope this helps. Grace.
@@ColumbusBibleChurch thank you
I am dead in sin period. I am alive to Christ through faith in Jesus death and resurrection. 1 Cor 15:1-4
2 Cor 5:21
thank you
Is this condemnation and shame an eternal condemnation and shame, for forever?
@sigpig912 The condemnation is of earthly works. The judgment seat of Christ takes place for a certain time, and it then concludes. Hope this helps.
@@ColumbusBibleChurch
It does, thank you. 😊
There is no condemnation at the JSOC “every man shall have praise of God” (1 Corinthians 4:5). But we should “walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit” (Romans 8:1 and 4) because the law condemns us and revives our sinful flesh (Romans 7:13).
The Father forgave all sin at the cross (2 Cor 5: 18-20) we who accept salvation in Christ alone (1Cor 15:1-4) are not judged for sin at the Judgement Seat of Christ.😊
Thank you so much for the wonderful sermon.
Verses you mentioned had made me always doubt about the OSAS doctrine. Words like condemnation have always made me wonder. For example, romans 8:1-2 sounds like as long as you walk in the Spirit and not in the flesh (not in the sins of galatians 5: 19) you aren't condemned. Sounds like works salvation because what else be the result of condemnation but eternal punishment?
Although it may not apply to us, but Jesus said "he who does not believe has already been condemned". In this verse, what was the condemnation? I'm assuming hell. How can we know for certain what is the condemnation of romans 8:1?
The other verse you mention on Timothy 3:7 I think it was, about not allowing a novice to become a bishop, how can a saved person fall into the condemnation of the devil if salvation can't be lost? I say salvation because what was the condemnation of the devil but to lose his status and not ever be saved again?
Where in God's Word does it say that having no sin (sin debt PAID at calvary) makes one righteous? Gift of righteousness or gift of sin forgiveness? Debt Paid for sin or paid for righteousness? Me, having no sin does that make me as righteous as God himself? Or do I need that gift based on my taking God at his word (faith) like Abraham?
Read a few verses before the ones listed and you will see Paul is referring to Abraham's faith.
Romans 4:20-25
[20]He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
[21]And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
[22]And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
[23]Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
[24]But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
[25]Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
Romans 5:1-2
[1]Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
[2]By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
@@BillfromtheHills Does believing in what Christ accomplished at Calvary remove my sin or do I get the 'Gift of Righteousness? (is it perfect incorruptible righteousness or is it just sin forgiveness?)
@@gh-cz1vk Romans 5:8-21
[8]But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
[9]Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
[10]For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
[11]And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
[12]Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
[13](For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
[14]Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
[15]But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
[16]And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
[17]For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
[18]Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
[19]For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
[20]Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
[21]That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
I love this guy. But like us all sometimes we are off on somethings. I think that he is not aware of Romans being mostly aimed at the Jews and some are under the kingdom plan and some under grace.
Romans 12
[19] Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Under grace God is not doweling out repayment for sin against another person. But under the kingdom program he was.
Jesus died for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 2:1-2 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."
Jesus paid the full penalty of all sins on the cross.
1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
Jesus became sin.
2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Salvation is a free gift.
Romans 5:15 “But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.”
Romans 3:24, KJV "Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:"
Ephesians 2:8 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:”
Jesus died FOR HIS ENEMIES....therefore forgiving His enemies of their sins.
Romans 5:6-10 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Ephesians 1:7 “In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;”
Ephesians 4:32 “And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.”
Only those who have imputed righteousness is justified.
Romans 4:22-25 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
Romans 4:5 - But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Romans 3:22 - Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Romans 1:17 - For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
1 Corinthians 1:30 - But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
2 Corinthians 5:21 - For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Again Romans Chapter 2 is not talking to the body of Christ it's talking to the Jews in time past Paul is reminiscing in that verse if you would have kept the context instead of taking out of its context to use according to your contact which is false you would have known this again this is really upsetting to me as someone who's listening to virtually all of your videos you're going the wrong way here you're not being honest and you're falling into this nonsense. Romans Chapter 2 is Paul talking about time past then Romans chapter 3 verse 21 is but now and it's primarily talking about Israel's fall and how they fell and how they're going to be judged. Bleeding into but now explaining the body of Christ so you're ignoring the context here and you're twisting it
It seems David preaches limited atonement. This unbiblical belief has been spread by generations of those who practice Christendom. Christendom is religious beliefs that are error based on tradition and paganism. It stems from the Catholic Church and has found its way into Protestantism.
@Ginai Doma False. We teach against limited atonement.
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@@ColumbusBibleChurch I've already watched this video you sent me you do preach limited atonement. Because David is saying in this video. And please listen carefully to what I'm saying here okay he is saying in this video. That the body of Christ is going to be judged for sin at the Judgment seat of Christ and the verse he quotes to prove this is Romans 2 which is talking to Israel the body of Christ has no sin in it it is sinless. Because you are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands your spirit and body are circumcised from one another the moment you are saved you were also sealed with the Holy Spirit unto and until the day of redemption. When you stand before God he's not going to judge you for sin because there is no member of the body of Christ that can sin in the spirit your flesh will sin but your flesh is going to be destroyed the moment the catching away happens. But that has nothing to do with the Judgment seat your sins have already been paid for in Christ the moment you believe the gospel your sins were paid for. You already made righteous through Christ spiritually this notion in this video he makes by saying we're going to be judged for sin during the Judgment seat of Christ is implying that we in the body of Christ can sin in the spirit. And that is no because you are saying one there's sin in the body of Christ and two God is going to judge me for sin when I've already been given Absolution from sin the moment I believe the gospel it totally contradicts the gospel and the reason why David is doing this I think is so that way members of the body of Christ who are not leaving the way they should will live better but that is corrupt to say that we in Christ are sinners. Physically In the Flesh we are but in the spirit we're already secure. And I've seen many pastors go down this road good pastors who rightly divided. Start putting false Doctrine into things the fact that David would have gone into this the way he did by quoting Romans 2 Romans chapter 1 in Romans Chapter 2 are Paul reminiscing about Israel about time passed the present and the things to come leading into Romans 3:21 but now where Paul his entire argument converges in to 1 perception in Romans 3:21 now David is ignoring this this is a blatant perversion of scripture. So Dave has to get this fixed he has to stop this before it gets worse if he starts preaching more heresy if he starts to preach more hyper dispensationalism which this is the start of that. It's going to get worse. And I will not support ever anyone who tries to tell me that the body of Christ is going to be judged for sin when the scripture is completely against it it is a perversion of scripture to say that and it attacks the body of Christ and salvation as a whole so David better fix this. Because I'm not going to be a supporter of his anymore and many friends of mine won't be. I will be making a video going through this video explaining this nonsense but don't twist what I'm saying out of context I've watched every video from David Reed and for the most part I agree with the man but this is just complete nonsense
@@ColumbusBibleChurch You preach that Jesus's blood wasn't sufficient enough to wash away the sins of the whole world. You preach limited atonement.
The blood of Jesus was sufficient to wash away the sins of ALL PEOPLE...those who are his enemies, as well as those who believe.
Tell me David....Does your belief make the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross true?
Does someone's unbelief make Jesus's sacrifice false?
The sacrifice was made once....not every time a person believes it. So you believe that sacrifice was not sufficient enough to wash away all sin?...At the time it was made.
You do realize you have some Catholic beliefs you are preaching when you claim a person must do something in order to "activate" their forgiveness of sins.
Christ forgave the sins of the whole world....It is up to the individual to believe this to be saved. No one is waiting for Christ to forgive them.
That sounds like Truth Time Radio, Trey S. Not sure about that. If he is right we still have to believe to activate that forgiveness.
Wrong. The lost do not pay the penalty for their sins.
IF THAT WAS THE CASE then Jesus did NOT die for the sins of the whole world.
If that was the case then Jesus did NOT pay the full penalty of sin on the cross.
If that was the case then Jesus did not become sin and did not receive the full wrath of God upon Himself.
If that was the case then there is no free gift of salvation.
This teaching that unsaved people will pay for their sins is heresy.
Jesus died for ALL SINS...not some.
Dying for all sins means EVERYONE is forgiven of ALL SINS.
So why do the unsaved go to Hell?
Because in order to go to Heaven you must have God's imputed righteousness. An unsaved person is NOT RIGHTEOUS and therefore can not go to Heaven.
The ONLY way to be imputed righteousness is by belief in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross.
Incoherent ramblings without any biblical scripture to support your 'opinions'. I award you no points...
May God have mercy on your soul
@Joe Zeay
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Jesus died for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 2:1-2 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."
Jesus paid the full penalty of all sins on the cross.
1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
Jesus became sin.
2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Salvation is a free gift.
Romans 5:15 “But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.”
Romans 3:24, KJV "Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:"
Ephesians 2:8 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:”
Jesus died FOR HIS ENEMIES....therefore forgiving His enemies of their sins.
Romans 5:6-10 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Ephesians 1:7 “In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;”
Ephesians 4:32 “And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.”
Only those who have imputed righteousness is justified.
Romans 4:22-25 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
Romans 4:5 - But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Romans 3:22 - Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Romans 1:17 - For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
1 Corinthians 1:30 - But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
2 Corinthians 5:21 - For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Nothing I said is unbiblical. Nothing I stated is not the truth. Religion always makes assumptions about things they don't understand. Do not fall into the religious doctrines of people who would lead you astray...intentionally or not.
@@joe_zeay Does believing in what Christ accomplished at Calvary remove my sin or do I get the 'Gift of Righteousness? (is it perfect incorruptible righteousness or is it just sin forgiveness?)
Even IF sins are at the judgment, they would be burned. And if I’m a spectator, I’d have to witness other Body members sins. 😳