How Tom just FIXED FNAF Game Theory |
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- Опубликовано: 23 апр 2024
- For those of you who have seen the NEW FNAF Game Theory by Tom talking about FALLFEST, you'll be interested in this follow up Video to the "Game Theory: Why You Hate our Theories" Video from 6 Months ago, digging into why Game Theory got so much Hate for their FNAF Videos, and how Tom as the NEW Host might have just fixed it!
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To be fair to game theory its hard to understand where the hate is coming from when people arent telling them whats wrong they are just being told that the theory was stupid.
As someone who believes that the books are a separate story from the games, this is a great theory and I’m glad that tales-believers enjoyed this video as well
Thank you, everyone wants to feel valid ^.^
I was about to basically comment the same
Ye no shit it's diff but I personally think that the book reference the games a bit but they def are a diff story tho
I hate what "but thats just a theory" has become, because to me, matpat never meant it as a shield for criticism, it was meant as a "hey, heres our evidence and conclusion, you see something wrong? Help us fix it", and the fact people cite it as just being like "this doesnt matter, its just a theory" makes me feel horrible
It's interesting, because I noticed a little bit of this (missing important info or misinterpreting it) in some of Matpat's Sonic the Hedgehog theories and A LOT in the Pizza Tower theory.
I can't tell if Team Theorist is/was being worked so hard that they either miss crucial information to try and complete the theory video by a deadline, or they intentionally gloss over it, believing it to be a minor detail or something else...
If Tom is both writer and head of the Game Theory channel (or however that works after Matpat's retirement), then he may have the ability to spend more time by himself researching and "going insane" and looking into every little detail of FNAF there is for when a theory video is made.
(Let's not forget Matpat has a family to take care of for a while now and this could've also accidentally unintentionally clouded/distracted his mind during theory-crafting.)
(There might also be a little bit of "light" gaslighting involved where possibly Team Theorist believed that if they don't mention any mistakes or make the evidence sound credible enough, then the people who don't read the books/know the lore will believe them, but obviously that didn't work for the real fans who actually played/read the FNAF lore.)
Not trying to throw hate, just mentioning some possible/plausible ideas for WHY Matpat's theories were a little bit flawed and caused the hate to begin with... 😓
"I can't tell if Team Theorist is/was being worked so hard that they either miss crucial information to try and complete the theory video by a deadline..."
I think you hit the nail on the head.
There was a little internet Drama a little while ago with Linus Tech Tips, in which (amongst other things that are unrelated) they were accused of having multiple errors in their tech review videos, because they were rushing them out the door so quickly. It feels like there are parallels, since both channels are big enough to have employees and other people's livelihoods at stake.
It's not a perfect parallel... but it provides precedence for the presence of a pernicious problem.
I would like to add about the worked so hard part. MatPat did grow from one channel to 4 and could have been running himself thin on top of life changes. With the four channels now having separate heads might make the workload lighter to more manageable for all of them.
Idk how their company is set up but I assume with the handing off each channel has a dedicated team of script writers so they can be more focused on their specialty.
@@DraconicWealth Interesting...
(Also, nice use of alliteration at the end there.) XD
@@myStitch11 True...
I wonder if the new "heads" of the channels who previously wrote theories with Matpat narrating them in the past theory videos, was mostly during a time where he had to check and make sure every proposed theory went by him/went under review by him, and possibly some things were either removed or missed during this "Matpat Proofreading" phase...
Also, I think since Matpat "signed off" his channel a while back, that company is handling the business side of things while Team Theorist keeps making theories. Idk if that company they signed off to actually has any say or effect to the theories they put out. 🤷♂️
One has to wonder, if MatPat wasn't able to do the research himself, could he have unintentionally inserted misinformation into an otherwise well-written script while making his own edits to it in order to deliver it more naturally?
It's common practice to re-write something you're going to be reading AT LEAST into chunks of the original text that flow better for you to say out loud. If he was tired/hurried, even if he didn't mean to make any changes to the content, he could've simply copied it down wrong. The main change from the previous videos to this one is that Tom is now overseeing the ENTIRE process through to the end, with no one else being able to override his writing at the last minute.
Thats actually a good point because Matpat himself also has to have some input
I doubt he would have done that for facts he wasn't entirely sure of. Mat probably did do a lot of tweaks on the scripts, but I'm betting it would have been things like wording and jokes rather than changing the facts and research unless it was something that he was absolutely adamant about, and if Tom KNEW it was factually incorrect information that he could easily cite, then he would surely push back against it. I very much doubt that Mat would make changes to the script and not tell his team that he's done so.
Id like to go on record that Matpat and Tom have gone on record saying the books are a headache to read at times and let's be real those books come out too frequently. I wouldn't be surprised to start brainstorming theory ideas as fast as possible the writers have to read those books as fast as possible which can easily lead to misremembering small details and that my end up carrying through drafts to final versions of the script. This just feels like Occam's Razor the simplest explanation is probably the right one.
@@gaymerjerry Yeah this makes the most sense to me. They have to read these things every couple months and from what I hear they aren't very good, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was a lot of skimming going on
Mat has always worked on the FNAF theories himself though, he just wasn't the sole contributor. I doubt this was the case.
Finaly, somebody else who pointed out they removed that dam ice cream in ruin. So many ignore it, but like guys, there telling us to look somewhere, we ain't doing robo kids
Are you talking about the graphic in the Brazil ending? If so, isn't that an entirely different thing?
@@Trecherousbeast yes, I am, for the very simple fact they let Vanessa keep her mint, and gave helpi a glam freddy colourd cone. So them changing Greg's does seem to be intentinal given they've shown they can keep it the same if needed, and that they put thought into helpi's ice cream, because, again, he has the glam freddy colours since he replaces glam freddys spot from the "vanny redeemed" ending, as sb's files pit it.
@@Crystal-pro-2024 I thought Helpi's Ice Cream colors were a reference to his eye color changes being both blue/teal and yellow depending on if it was the mimic talking or actually Helpi.
@@fnaffoxy1987 I could see that, but given Vanessa kept hers, Greg changes his, and helpi replaces glam freddyz it's way more likely a reference to that fact, because it's also got a lot of orange and blue, which are glam freddys predominant colours, especially since brown is dark orange so making him lighter makes him more orange
@@Crystal-pro-2024 Fair enough. Looking at it again, it's just a bit annoying when discussing colors that it's still basically a sunset or sunrise since that changes what the colors appear to be. Gregory's shirt is blue, no doubt, but because of the setting it appears purple. Then there's the shadow of the tree they're under, both of these things can make colors appear darker or a bit different. I'm only pointing this out because yellow can appear orange in this setting, but it works both ways because it's yellow/orange.
This latest theory felt like a community win! The future is looking much brighter 😁
"The Fredbear bite looking ice cream was removed in Ruin." I mean... was it though? That is a completely different ending that only resembles the one in Security Breach. Saying it was removed makes it sound like that ending in Security Breach had the ice cream replaced, which I do not think is the case. It is not like the name Cassidy being replaced in Princess Quest. That Security Breach Ending shouldn't be ignored just because an ending in the DLC is referencing it. By that same logic you could say Glamrock Freddie's head was removed in Ruin and use the fact H.E.L.P.I is there instead as proof Glamrock Freddie never had a head. It just feels like a leap in logic.
The reason why it's called out, is because Vanessa keeps her mint chip, they intentionally chose to change just Greg's ice cream, keeps Vanessa's and remove glamrock freddy and replace him with helpi, who's icecream has the glamrock freddy colours. They chose to change everything, but keep the mint for Vanessa. Why?
okay even if "The Fredbear bite looking ice cream was removed in Ruin." that was not really true....
then what is proving ? gregory buying freddy looking ice-cream showing his love to glamrock freddy?
or it proves that gregory is cc? who decided to buy fredbear icecream?
@@Ryoba__chan Well, given they where willing to get rid of it, it's probably like the pq thing where we wherent meant to go in the direction we did, and they made changes to tell us to not do that
@@Crystal-pro-2024 I agree
@@Ryoba__chan combine that with them showing every kid can just survive a crazy amount of falls, eye chips that can be hacked and more, robot kids is definatly not the plan.
I can't necessarily blame Tom for what I'd assume is inadvertently spreading misinformation when doing the research for the theories during the past 6 months or so despite misquoting the same source like saying Chica was Edwin's first animatronic in one theory when really she was his eighteenth in this most recent theory. I'll be honest, I feel like I would've made that mistake as well at least once or twice. Not to mention, people were still hesitant to consider the books as canon despite the clear signs that they were to some degree. As a result, everyone was just confused as to what was likely or unlikely to be true.
The one thing I realized that that theory used mostly the game details while the books were used to prove and find little details for that theory while all Security Breach theories used 90% of the time the books. Like Scott said the books can fill in small gaps or details of the lore which people still don't seem to understand. Simply by using the games you can figure out the lore much better than by using the books since the books are not canon to the games and only small details from the books actually help.
We have come along way from people hating on matpat for using the books to most theories using the books more than games
While at the start this was true and honestly a pretty decent way for Scott to spread small clues and hints in otherwise irrelevant stories, more recent things like GGY and the Mimic have brought in reveals that are wayyy too important to be relegated to a Tales of the Pizzaplex book. I doubt this will happen again considering how much backlash there’s been, but yeah it sucks that they’re now required in order to understand some of the more recent lore, and that these elements weren’t naturally brought into the universe through a mainline game release.
I'm happy that game theory is getting back on track. I think that if more theorists put the same amount of accuracy with other things such as the fazbear frights then lore wouldn't be such a headache.
Very epic video!
You better give classy her 7 scooby snacks now!
Something that surprised and impressed me is that I haven't seen anyone throwing a fit over the fact that Tom used art from LadyFizsi as evidence. Good on you, guys! You're finally growing up and realizing that just because the artist did a bad, it's art that Scott specifically licensed and copyrighted, meaning it's still valid for theorizing! Good on all of you!
What did lady fizi do?
@@Lonkshi21 Made weird creepy pedo fan fics of the Purple Guy
I'm guessing MatPat and his researchers didn't have strong communication between each other. That makes a lot of sense.
Kinda funny how we all loved matpat and now when he's gone all of a sudden he's just bad at it.
It was actually quite the surprise for me looking at Tom's first fnaf video as at first it seemed like a completely different writer due to the mentioned changes
Really interesting 😲 i didn't know those old episodes were poorly researched but yeah with this newest one hopefully those mistakes won't happen again, I'll also stay tuned for more videos cause this first one got me hooked with your type of content^^
This is exactly what i like about Tom's new theory. It is much more well-researched and grounded that the others. For what i know, Tom and Matt wrote the theories together, so who knows how much influence over the final result did Tom have. I think Matt doesn't read the stories himself (Although i could be wrong), he had no time to, so Tom read them, and they made a theory together regarding that book. Maybe Tom let some small details to be not-well laid out into the scripts, so when they actually came out, they came off as badly researched or flawed.
To- to be fair like when he said it was purple, he didn’t mean it literally, because of the lighting effect, it’s symbolic we see Scott doing these things multiple times where he’d use similes and metaphors to make the darker meaning like, “you’re broken” “I feel you’re broken” it was meant metaphorically but after was made literally
Lovely Video rabbit man
I really liked this new presentator for Game theorists, i hope that now that he is the face and voice of the channel, he gets to put more effort into the research for their theories like how he did for the most recent chapter
I wish nothing but the best for him and i hope he gets to present Game theory for a loooong while 🙏🙏🙏
Under_Score video let’s get it
The best part of the latest Fnaf game theory video is Tom getting Fredbear’s companion’s name right
I honestly didn't even know the theories were getting some facts wrong. I had stopped watching these videos for a long time (the last theory I fully watched was on how to make the perfect burger lol), I was just _done_ trying to understand this series' lore. I still kind of am, but I'll try to understand things in a more casual way. Glad to see things have been looking up a bit more lately!
I definitely agree Tom has come a long way. But also cutting him so slack since he is dyslexic. But overall he has come along way.
incredible video underscore!! keep it up please 🙏
It's not just Fnaf, many of the theories either skipped over lore or context. One of the last videos I saw from Game Theory was Kirby is a Villain part 1. They showed videos where Kirby was watching something unfold alongside Kind Dedede and Metaknight, then proceeded to claim Kirby was the only one wrong for not taking action.
If what you say is true and they're doing better fact checking, might just start watching GT again.
Is bro really angry about a guy theorizing? Calm down bro, it’s not the end of the world that’s there’s some misinformation in a series with over 10 books.
thats why its just a theory... a game theory
I think that people will hate me for my fnaf theory.. I don't have much time to sit and look through everything to write my theory yet.. But I'm scared to post it seeing how many people get mad over fnaf theories..
Especially since my theory is also a meta theory..? Maybe I'll just keep things to myself..
W video
I feel like Tom is doing a good job whole matpat is not here anymore
He called burntrap afton and said tales are parrels ans said william made mimic. Those are my only issues other than that GREAT vid
Sad that people who create music understand fnaf better than these people, also sad that brainless people belive them.
@@theraptorblue6675 you mean better than game thoery
Well i think Afton making the mimic isn't a Bad idea, i kinda like it, more than henry making the mimic
@@thesweetbunny-fazbearsomething even better than afton making the mimic would be... idk Edwin making him like we were told
@@thesweetbunny-fazbear You can like the idea of Afton making the Mimic
But we already have a confirmed Creator.
It's Edwin.
3:30 when watches video do not like it because people can have different opinions and perspective
Hey, Sorry for the dumb question but, shouldn't The books suposed to be parallels to the games?
No, they are in the Games Timeline.
Tales cant paralell the games in THAT way
Cuz tales are stories that takes place before SB, theyre prequels so they cant be alternatives of anything that never got shown in the games
@@Under_ScoreI’m kinda washed on the topic of fnaf but you’re saying that everything that happened in the books, happened during the timeline of the fnaf games?
Im glad tom had a redemption arc but I did enjoy alot of the theories including gregory being a robot but I'm glad Tom has now stopped making these mistakes. I dont read the book or play the games I just like listening to fnaf theories
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Under_Score how will you respond to the rumors
What rumours
@@thevioletskull8158 The incident involving that one man in Kentucky
@@duckman9327 what
As much as I agree with your points: The video still does misquote the books, claiming that the Mimic had once appeared as a mass of black wires.
They definitely still have a few hurdles to get over.
@@Under_Score indeed they do!
Hm
soooooo gregory isnt a robot?
Obviously
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Honestly people hated the theories without knowing evidence was false to begin with, I’m sorry but you are going to tell me that many people actually read these books and fact checked them and didn’t just get mad at the theory they didn’t like you are fooling yourself, your point is true but I’m not giving the hate credit like that as people have been hating on game theory for a long time now, also the same guy is still backing the theories so it doesn’t really doesn’t really disprove anything till we see otherwise
chica is his 18 animaltonic, but also his first successful one
That is incorrect. He has made 18 successful animatronics.
@@Under_Score well chica is his super sucessful one. all of the others have went out fast but chica went on father the the others
@@PFGFrankly This is incorrect. He has successfully created 18 Animatronics all before Chica.
@Under_Score OK I get that. But have we see all these animaltronics he made still in action in SB. Maybe Monty was a earlier character he made. So there that.
As we know Chica is the longest lasting animatronic he made.
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This isn’t really tom’s first fnaf theory it’s just the first that he’s hosted, he’s definitely wrote some or at least helped write previous theories that mat has hosted too, I think the difference now is more just less minds working on the one theory at once so it’s a bit more coherent rather than people trying to gather different evidence all across the place and put it together
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