I started with KDE and still like the concept but I get so easily distracted that gnome is better suited for me. It focuses on not distracting my work flow. That is important for me, very important. It isn't about look at me, play with me, it's about how can I help you get your work done and get out of your way. Very grownup.
My biggest problem with KDE is actually reliability. Sure I can open it up and set up nice widgets and all kinds of things, but it seems like on KDE I experience more window manager crashes.
@@DSTechMedia I haven't had that misfortune so I wouldn't know. I have heard people talking about it's unreliability but haven't encountered it myself.
It's gnome 3.28 with Qogir-Ubuntu theme. My icons are La-Capitaine but I've got some custom set/inherited. I use Unite, Ubuntu dock, Ubuntu app indicator, dynamic panel transparency extensions. Hope that helps.
Vmware player plus gnome 43 is very quick, I get boot up under 30 secs, double start speeds for apps, sure they messed with theming on File app, there is still alot to theme on. This is the best setup for me.
Gnome Nightly isn't an actual OS though. I used Boxes because they have the Nightly images built in for download, but normally I use VMware Workstation Pro. I've read lots of arguments on performance of VMware vs KVM vs Virtualbox, but performance for a desktop in all of them is about the same in my opinion.
@@DSTechMedia goldfish humans with 3 seconds of attention span will find anything without loud noises and fancy graphics boring. but real chads recognise quality when they see it 😎🍷😂
Thanks for the tour, I wonder when pop-os will adapt some of that, especially the audio controls, that to me is/was the least intuitive part of the entire set up. Hope all is well elsewise
Hmm interesting. From what I know of Pop's Cosmic DE, it's just extensions on Gnome like Ubuntu does. They could stick with 22.04, but they'll still end up having to adopt the changes at some point unless they fork. I can't see them wanting to fork and maintain their own Gnome because 3rd party apps are going to build against Gnome.
I found love in gnome in it's extensions but decided to move to hyperland because nowadays I find gnome bloated and each update apps I delete will be installed back... It's been 2 years I will never forget GNOME experience.
I hadn't heard of Hyperland before now, but I looked into it and it looks kind of interesting. The only thing I dislike about it is that it's a Wayland compositor. Also, I've tried tiling WM's in the past, and I just don't have the know-how or time to learn to configure them to be honest.
It's a reasonable question lol after so many years, we need answers. Unfortunately, no matter how bad some of Gnome Project's ideas are they will not listen to reason. I may like their desktop, but they don't care about their users. When ElementaryOS was going to get rid of Aptana(the 3rd party tray indicator support in Ubuntu) I started an uprising in their social media, and we got them to maintain it after Ubuntu/Gnome had dropped it. At least Elementary could be made to see reason.
I don't disagree at all. But Gnome Project has been around for nearly 2 decades so it's not a new desktop interface. In fact, Gnome's many libraries, utilities, API's, etc are most likely going to needed in some way for most productivity software. But just curious: What productivity software are you referring to? Like what is missing? I'd really like to see a Linux alternative to Sketch for designing interfaces/graphics. I don't think that counts as productivity though.
Sorry but I couldn't help but notice that your your pc is running too hot ! top 60s low 70s is kinda very high. It might need bit of dusting and new thermal paste. Except if it's too old or weak that it needs to always boost to max in order to keep delivering
@@DSTechMedia ihad a similar issue with an hp probook with an i5 1st gen. i took out all its guts and put em on a wooden board with an additional fan blowing air on it and still got hot 🔥😂
@@AnassEljondy That i5 may have been the same architecture as this is. I think Sandy/Ivy Bridges ran kind of hot. This particular workstation I got for free from my ex-girlfriend's design firm. It had actually been her workstation, and they had a contract with Dell. When the new ones came in they were going to throw away a functioning Xeon/Quadro machine! I ended up getting 5 in total. But aside from cleaning it up and upgrading memory I haven't done anything to it. I'm def going to re-do the paste soon, I also need to install the new GPU/PSU. BUT, it uses a hot-swappable power supply, and I've never had to remove one from desktop before. Usually they're only in server racks.
you're "we couldn't fix a bug for over 18 years because the interface we're using is older than jesus so no one wanted to work on it and even 5 people left the project in the process of fixing that bug because gtk is shxt" team?
You know, I never even actually realized this bug until the videos started coming out about it just now. I also feel like people haven't brought this up before in most of the criticism I've seen of Gnome. But yes, this was a ridiculous situation. Also I have some harsh criticisms of Gnome that I ended up cutting from the video. BUT my first experience with KDE was back in 2015 when I installed it before going camping. The first night there, I open the laptop and go to log-in and Kwin crashes and I could no longer log into a working desktop. I've been testing KDE Neon recently and Kwin has crashed/glitched several times. As little as I've used KDE I feel like it's been too common.
I started with KDE and still like the concept but I get so easily distracted that gnome is better suited for me. It focuses on not distracting my work flow. That is important for me, very important. It isn't about look at me, play with me, it's about how can I help you get your work done and get out of your way. Very grownup.
My biggest problem with KDE is actually reliability. Sure I can open it up and set up nice widgets and all kinds of things, but it seems like on KDE I experience more window manager crashes.
@@DSTechMedia I haven't had that misfortune so I wouldn't know. I have heard people talking about it's unreliability but haven't encountered it myself.
But it seems i like your current distro style more😅... Would you please share your theme & dockbar names please? Thanks!
It's gnome 3.28 with Qogir-Ubuntu theme. My icons are La-Capitaine but I've got some custom set/inherited. I use Unite, Ubuntu dock, Ubuntu app indicator, dynamic panel transparency extensions. Hope that helps.
Vmware player plus gnome 43 is very quick, I get boot up under 30 secs, double start speeds for apps, sure they messed with theming on File app, there is still alot to theme on. This is the best setup for me.
Gnome Nightly isn't an actual OS though. I used Boxes because they have the Nightly images built in for download, but normally I use VMware Workstation Pro. I've read lots of arguments on performance of VMware vs KVM vs Virtualbox, but performance for a desktop in all of them is about the same in my opinion.
also you have a unique style of videos your voice is calming ☺
you have yourself a new subscriber! can't wait to explore your channel
You know it's weird because you are the second person to say that. But I've had many people tell me that I'm too boring lol.
Anyways appreciate it!
@@DSTechMedia goldfish humans with 3 seconds of attention span will find anything without loud noises and fancy graphics boring. but real chads recognise quality when they see it 😎🍷😂
@@Skullysism Haha, I sometimes 'try' to do fancy graphics though 😅
Thanks for the tour, I wonder when pop-os will adapt some of that, especially the audio controls, that to me is/was the least intuitive part of the entire set up.
Hope all is well elsewise
Well Ubuntu 22.10 is supposedly getting most of this so I would assume Pop OS will be close behind them.
Hmm interesting. From what I know of Pop's Cosmic DE, it's just extensions on Gnome like Ubuntu does. They could stick with 22.04, but they'll still end up having to adopt the changes at some point unless they fork. I can't see them wanting to fork and maintain their own Gnome because 3rd party apps are going to build against Gnome.
I found love in gnome in it's extensions but decided to move to hyperland because nowadays I find gnome bloated and each update apps I delete will be installed back... It's been 2 years I will never forget GNOME experience.
I hadn't heard of Hyperland before now, but I looked into it and it looks kind of interesting. The only thing I dislike about it is that it's a Wayland compositor. Also, I've tried tiling WM's in the past, and I just don't have the know-how or time to learn to configure them to be honest.
but will their file picker show large thumbnails
It's a reasonable question lol after so many years, we need answers.
Unfortunately, no matter how bad some of Gnome Project's ideas are they will not listen to reason. I may like their desktop, but they don't care about their users.
When ElementaryOS was going to get rid of Aptana(the 3rd party tray indicator support in Ubuntu) I started an uprising in their social media, and we got them to maintain it after Ubuntu/Gnome had dropped it.
At least Elementary could be made to see reason.
Bro in Linux .. we need to develop more Productivity software and not make another Desktop interface
I don't disagree at all. But Gnome Project has been around for nearly 2 decades so it's not a new desktop interface. In fact, Gnome's many libraries, utilities, API's, etc are most likely going to needed in some way for most productivity software.
But just curious: What productivity software are you referring to? Like what is missing?
I'd really like to see a Linux alternative to Sketch for designing interfaces/graphics.
I don't think that counts as productivity though.
Sorry but I couldn't help but notice that your your pc is running too hot ! top 60s low 70s is kinda very high. It might need bit of dusting and new thermal paste. Except if it's too old or weak that it needs to always boost to max in order to keep delivering
I've been waiting for someone to notice that. Thank you though. I definitely need to open it up and do the paste.
@@DSTechMedia ihad a similar issue with an hp probook with an i5 1st gen. i took out all its guts and put em on a wooden board with an additional fan blowing air on it and still got hot 🔥😂
@@AnassEljondy
That i5 may have been the same architecture as this is. I think Sandy/Ivy Bridges ran kind of hot.
This particular workstation I got for free from my ex-girlfriend's design firm. It had actually been her workstation, and they had a contract with Dell. When the new ones came in they were going to throw away a functioning Xeon/Quadro machine! I ended up getting 5 in total.
But aside from cleaning it up and upgrading memory I haven't done anything to it.
I'm def going to re-do the paste soon, I also need to install the new GPU/PSU. BUT, it uses a hot-swappable power supply, and I've never had to remove one from desktop before. Usually they're only in server racks.
i'm team Gnome forever ... i tried linux with kde and hated it! even though i came from windows ... but gnome man it's fantastic
you're "we couldn't fix a bug for over 18 years because the interface we're using is older than jesus so no one wanted to work on it and even 5 people left the project in the process of fixing that bug because gtk is shxt" team?
@@xslvrxslwt no i'm team looks great and doing the job right LOL i know gnome has its problems but i like it + it looks fancy out of the box soo ...
@@Skullysism so you're like those poor indian ricers then? don't support a shxtty decisions project ™
You know, I never even actually realized this bug until the videos started coming out about it just now. I also feel like people haven't brought this up before in most of the criticism I've seen of Gnome. But yes, this was a ridiculous situation.
Also I have some harsh criticisms of Gnome that I ended up cutting from the video.
BUT my first experience with KDE was back in 2015 when I installed it before going camping. The first night there, I open the laptop and go to log-in and Kwin crashes and I could no longer log into a working desktop.
I've been testing KDE Neon recently and Kwin has crashed/glitched several times.
As little as I've used KDE I feel like it's been too common.
Same, gnome is the future of Linux desktop and imo has been for the past 2 years