Flatpaks need the gnome 47 sdk to support the accent color. You used a gnome beta at the time of the recording so you should have used the gnome nightly flatpak repo ;)
Doesn't the nautilus file picker mean that when you use gnome with a different file manager (which is a totally valid thing to do) you will be out of luck?
@@CrafterAurora Looking at the Gnome 47 release notes they state the new dialogs are based on nautilus, but hopefully do not require nautilus to be installed. I also love and use nautilus, but I don't think the DE should be that dependent on its default apps.
I have made the move to KDE over the last year due to its much better support for fractional scaling and Wayland. However, still love Gnome as well. It is beautiful and simple. It says a lot that I made my KDE look exactly like what my Gnome desktop had looked like, which also goes to the power of KDE.
@DeniedANull I have found that with a custom libadwaita/gtk4 theme to match your QT themes, GTK looks AMAZINGGG on KDE, I use a lot of Gnome apps on KDE with no issues :)
@DeniedANull Kate is great, blows gedit away, Dolphin is wicked with the dual panes and so many features, and with extensions I do all kinds of stuff to files, like conversions, Music file tags, graphics file rotating, resizing resolution changes and all sorts, Thumbnails of their actual content, changing the dolor of individual folders so it's much easier to find specific ones you use and so much more, Nautilus is crippled in that regard. Then there's Krename a mass file renamer, and other KDE apss that don't come with it but can be downloaded that integrate with the other apps so filerenamer works from within dolphin and similar as most KDE apps are all about functionality and work flow, and don't even get me started on the what the gnome team did by switching to a hamburger menu only a few years ago, which was the last straw for me to never use it again. KDE has one as a choice, but without just getting rid of menus as I have been using since I got a Macintosh Lisa in 1986, and has been a staple ever since in all OS's! The reasons for doing it were bogus, and the treatment of those who didn't agree it was a good choice was also really bad. If it was simpler as they claimed, then only in looks, because everything requires more clicks to do things not fewer, and for what space they gained (their main reason) which was a few pixels at best, with resolutions already much higher when they did it was a already too late, since they wanted to do it for years before they finally did, was no longer necessary and a total joke! If I want my OS to treat me like a simpleton who too easily messes stuff up, I would have just stayed on Windows, and I ditched that a long time ago, for that and other reasons. Even this doesn't impress me one bit, and that in understanding there are glitches that will be fixed soon.
@@jothain I meant 40-60. No offence intended...its just something i noticed... That old people prefer that windows look more than younger generation who mainly like minimalism
47 getting all the excellent under the hood improvements. VR headsets working properly at last, fractional scaling, easier screen recording and getting HDR going. Gonna be messing with HDR a bunch when Fedora's new release drops. It's early days still, but I'm happy to see it all come together. Give it time and we'll see a Gnome and KDE where HDR and VRR will just work. No experimental settings, no Gamescope, no command line voodoo. Just toggle it on in the settings and enjoy. The experimental VRR already works quite well in my experience.
The new file picker is great! I think they only need to add one more thing to make it perfect: When selecting any file a Flatpak app does not have access to, there should be a popup asking you if you want to grant the app permissions to read/write in the desired location.
@@ContraVsGigi Yeah, If the backend for snaps wasn't closed source and canonical didn't hard code their server urls into the snap client code, I'd use snaps.
@@taiwbi That's the point. It's not to safeguard users, it's to make it so that when I need to save a file to an external drive(or anywhere outside of home) in a flatpak app I don't have to OPEN FLATSEAL AND ADD PERMISSIONS FOR THE DRIVE. As for the 99%... to them it just looks like linux is broken. They'll never figure out how to fix the problem unless a linux pro tells them. It's a major UX fail and flatpak can't be considered a viable replacement for traditional package managers until it's fixed. I believe work is ongoing on a portal based approach to standardise a solution across DE's. It can't come soon enough.
@spartanbeef9491 I haven't had this issue with Flatpaks. Whenever I choose a file or directory from a Flatpak application that doesn't have access to it, Flatpak simply opens a portal and grants access to the file. For example, when saving an image from a browser to a directory it doesn't have access to, Flatpak manages it just fine. The problem with Flatpaks arises when you're selecting a directory from within the application's file manager. In that case, you don’t see your actual file system, but rather the sandboxed version of it. Even if this issue exists with Flatpaks, it's not GNOME’s responsibility to fix.
These sorts of less visually/functionally drastic updates are often underestimated, but are often just as important as the more drastic ones, so thanks for shedding some light on what would otherwise fly under the radar for most people. Despite rarely using GNOME (LXQt is the most my laptop will run), it is always good news to see it consistently improve.
Yep, apps need to use the latest GNOME 47 SDK when being built (or yeah, another equivalent SDK that implements the FreeDesktop portal). It’s a feature of GNOME 47, so apps need to support GNOME 47.
@@CassidyJames Yeah, it's hard to expect them to be updated already. Something something gnome breaks extensions or whatever the haters be saying nowadays
Now that accent colors have shipped, we are definitely interested in using color in more interesting places across the platform. ☺️ And yeah, GNOME 47 added support for the FreeDesktop accent color, so apps need to target GNOME 47 or an equivalent SDK that implements the FreeDesktop portal. I'm not sure what the state of those apps/SDKs from other platforms is, but if they are using the FreeDesktop portal, it should work-but it might take some time for support to roll out, similar to how the dark style preference took a little while but now works pretty much everywhere.
While not a “big” update, Gnome is continuously refining its DE and supporting application development. Methodical and continuous improvement consistent with their vision and strategy makes it the leading DE for Linux.
accent colours are not frivolous. Visuals are very important for humans and affect our behaviour and productivity. It affects us so much to the point that the size of our room and how its appearance makes us feel changes the performance of our memory (just to take an example). Different people do like different things as those things suit them better but generally, cleaner rooms and desk equal better focus, memory, productivity, motivation... The look of something is not superficial but critical to its design. Looking nicer does change usability. Saying something works and so is just as good as something that looks nicer and works is judging the two by a criteria not applicable to humans. There's nothing morally wrong with the appearance of something mattering to us. It could be morally wrong to judge ourselves and be superficial and pretend that these things shouldn't matter to us. Well, they do. So... Don't believe anyone telling you looks or appearance isn't important. It is. It can be sacrificed but its still a sacrifice.
@@placeholder3853 gnome is good, But macOS is still better. Because mac os ui is made in such a way that you can build both simple and complicated apps in it. I wish only ui oriented linux devs wernt so opinionated on over minimalism.
@@rohithkumarbandari as a designer I wouldn't even say macOS is minimal anymore, it's just very user experience oriented, which GNOME does try to do, but UX research comes with a cost that open source a lot of times isn't able to pay
Not a gnome user (I miss the days when you didn't have to use extensions to make it usable), but it is nice to see the improvements they are making. It's definitely a gorgeoud DE.
Extensions is, in fact, the Gnome way to configure the system. Is just using a JS API instead of a menu with 1000's of options. You should try to make one, you'll be surprised how easy is it.
@@framegrace1 - Have to install a browser extension - Have to install a native program that listens to the browser extension (which doesn't work GNOME web, GNOME's own browser) - Have to go through a site that looks like a 2007 programmer designed it - After that, you have a system tray :D - Breaks every update and have to wait a week through a month for extensions to work again - The extension manager still uses gtk3 Simpler than a toggle on the settings panel I guess
@@charautrealNobody installs extension through the web browsers, everybody uses the Extension Manager (which uses gtk4, not 3) and it's painfully simple to use. It's true that extensions breaks on major updates and that sucks, but I rather lose extensions temporarily than having to deal with plasmashell crashing daily.
@@charautrealyou don't need to go to any website, just open extension manager search for the extension and enable. It's as simple as toggling fee settings. And for the extension breaking after update, I use more than 20 extension and none of them broke after update, and there is also an option in the manager app to see which extensions are supported in gnome 47, so you can be prepared
Accessibility isn’t really an under the hood issue. It’s like if your computer didn’t have a mouse and then someone hands you a mouse. I’m running arch so I’m expecting to get gnome 47 very soon, right now I literally cannot use gnome.
Accent colors: I'm more interested in having libadwaita apps follow my non-GNOME desktop configured accent colors - and according to the implementation notes, while it will read the accent color from the settings portal, it will not apply any color you wanted - the implementation will always choose one of the 9 pre-allowed accent colors and will try to find the closest one to the one you actually want.
The main point of Gnome is to have a consistent UI. So they will never support "userland" theming. Is like saying you will like birds when they stop having feathers. You just don't like Gnome.
@@framegrace1 The whole point I moved away from GNOME was inconsistency in theming (wanted dark mode everywhere but some apps still displayed light titlebars, by the looks of it this is fixed in this update) and in the titlebars. mpv does not display titlebars in GNOME currently for example (tested it just now on Arch). Also how is implementing SSDs userland theming???
@@framegrace1 enforced CSD makes theming LESS consistent. I had to bring in libdecor to add a titlebar to Factorio, and it doesn't use libadwaita so it doesn't match other apps nor your dark mode preference. Gnome on Wayland is the only place on earth where this problem exists. SSD is the solution.
Maybe I'm the minority here but I like that the accent color doesn't apply to the folders. That's why it's called *Accent* color, not Full system color
@@realchoodle It's a way to justify the fact that every update barely brings any new features because "they were working on a lot of changes under the hood"
Things I care about are: triple buffering, fractional scaling and framedrop on web browsers on Wayland during video playback glitch (is it fixed?) I commented before watching. I know now.
@14:38 “… the new Vulkan renderer that should speed things up using your gpu when playing back video” I’ve heard that currently there is no triple buffering support built into Gnome. Also, I take it that you didn’t watch the video
My brand new laptop came with windows 11, what a waste of 40 euros, could've saved that for an Ryzen 7, anywho, I threw it right in the trash for gnome. Like always works amazing!
I love GNOME, but for some reason they took out the Autoconnect button from the VPN profile and now you have to remember everytime after starting the computer to start the VPN which is stupid. Why would they do that I have no clue.
It's worth noting that the move to Nautilus as a file picker may not be acceptable for all apps due to restrictions present in the GTK API around file type. So don't be surprised if some more complex apps still use the legacy file picker.....
New Gnome version translates to “everyone update your apps/extensions (please)”. Now you have a new branch for gnome 47+ as well as another one if you intend on supporting previous Gnome versions packaged into LTS releases. Have fun 👍
File picker is huge. Now the only thing left that I want from nautilus is to tell me how much disk space is available in the directory I'm in without me having to dig into menus or launching disk analyser applications. Simple used/total info displayed somewhere.
cool release! kinda sad about the revamped dialog buttons (the "sort of inverted tabs located at the bottom of the dialog" ones), I really liked the previous ones and will miss them, but overall I think it's for the better
I think both design choices are beautiful and I like it when the desktop switches things up a little to keep things fresh. I'd love to see them rotate the two choices for each release, even though it's definitely not practical
Can we make the corners of everything less round? It looks very inflated and I don't know. It's friendly, but ... EVERYTHING has rounded rectangles. 8px or 4px would be fine, but it's like a big puffy fluffy feel meh. I'm old though, so ignore me.
Hope openSUSE is as fast as usual with the new Gnome. Can't wait. I hope they already plan something big for Gnome 50 I know it's 1.5 years to go but I am always exited for a new Version and I hope 50 will arrive with a big boom
Im still waiting for gnome to fix their implementation of wayland. You still cant properly use 3rd party screenshot annotation tools like flameshot in doing screenshots
COSMIC does it in a hacky and unsupported way that creates a high risk of breakage. GNOME’s new implementation actually comes with a promise of always working nicely.
@@bragefuglseth3505 Sure, I get that. I personally don't mind as I would not keep the default theme on gtk3/gtk4 apps, so it would be hacky for me in any case, as full-blown theming is not officially supported by Gnome.
Any one answer two questions I have. Is there a stable distro you can chuck on a MacBook Pro M2 yet? What’s the best language to learn to write cross platform apps? Flutter I’ve heard good and bad things about.
Hi, I want to know a linux desktop with changeable two finger scroll for laptop touchpad"s. Thanks.( without libinput commands or complcated terminal jank. just oob)
I don't believe kde plasma or any other desktop in the world supports remapping touchpad gestures like scrolling. You have to use some other application for this, and I believe input-remapper can do the job. If not, there's Touché, but it only works on x11 afaik
As much as I prefer KDE over Gnome, I simply cannot deny that they are the least easy to break. So if Gnome is the image of linux, I would be completely fine with that.
Honestly Gnome took the freedom of choice to choose for ourselves and lock out almost every standard and basic stylish/look feature, sad AF, that is why I hate it and if I need to use it I always go for Extensions or it makes me puke. The most I stick to Cinnamon or KDE the more I love them... and the more I hate Gnome, thankfully the COSMIC desktop is kind of decent but still so far from final release...
I really really hope they fixed the Microsoft OneDrive integration too. While I am switching all of my personal data to a personal cloud, my work and gaming PC still use OneDrive for storage and sharing of documents.
The only desktop that works best with touch screen. All the gestures work out of the box. And the layout feels more modern and tablet-like UI. Hope they will improve the virtual keyboard on tablet mode, that keyboard still feels clunky.
It's there if you add a Template file to base it on. I think some distros do this? Head to ~/Templates and there is even an infobar that links to the documentation.
I always think Gnome looks incredible in these videos. Then I switch to it and decide I hate it within a week. IDK why but I just can't get on Team Gnome. Even though I think it looks incredible
I think it is a nice release but honestly, I am kinda no impressed. I just don't like that they give zero customization. I don't have any major issues with the stock grey but man, every other desktop gives a competent customization suite. I like GNOME a bit too much to move away from it right now, but I just might because I have been a bit underwhelmed with the transitional releases.
i like gnome, have been using it for a long time, and i really like the design they went for, but I tried KDE last month and was shocked at how thing just work. Stuff is more integrated, settings EXIST, don't have to download a billion extensions for basic stuff like minimizing, or having to download flatseal to manage such basic stuff as application permissions. I hope gnome comes around someday, but the higher ups think in a way that won't let gnome evolve as it should.
@DeniedANull yeah, 100% agree with you on that for a lot of apps. There are exceptions of course. Gnome's syatem monitor and partition manager are a joke compared to the kde counterparts.
The buttons in the folder creation modal and alert dialogs are horrible and out of harmony with the look itself, as they are divergent, add the round buttons or the square buttons, not both, and the Nautilus sidebar I prefer the one in Gnome 46, and the time on the lock screen could have less weight in bold, the rest from what I saw still looks good
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Can you review the zen browser
@@mglsj I just looked it up. I'm sure going to try it. I use a few browsers already, most are firef0x forks.
What distro do you use and what DE do you use on this distro?
file picker change is actually HUGE
finally i won't get randomly flashbanged by 2002 era looking file manager
@@pagenotfound_code_404 That 2002-era garbage dialogue box used to be the ugliest part of the system for a long time.
definitely
I’m happy about this and I use kde! Finally I can use Firefox without it looking terrible
@@earth2k66 and still it is
Flatpaks need the gnome 47 sdk to support the accent color. You used a gnome beta at the time of the recording so you should have used the gnome nightly flatpak repo ;)
Skill issue
Noob
Still a flatpak issue tbh
@@moistness482No, flatpak nightly and stable are separated by good reasons.
as a GNOME user, this looks pretty cool
also gotta respect nautilus being file picker dialogue, thats good
Doesn't the nautilus file picker mean that when you use gnome with a different file manager (which is a totally valid thing to do) you will be out of luck?
@@jirikral1052 I dunno, nautilus has always worked well for me so I haven't tried
@@CrafterAurora Looking at the Gnome 47 release notes they state the new dialogs are based on nautilus, but hopefully do not require nautilus to be installed. I also love and use nautilus, but I don't think the DE should be that dependent on its default apps.
@@jirikral1052 ok my bad
I have made the move to KDE over the last year due to its much better support for fractional scaling and Wayland. However, still love Gnome as well. It is beautiful and simple. It says a lot that I made my KDE look exactly like what my Gnome desktop had looked like, which also goes to the power of KDE.
@DeniedANull I have found that with a custom libadwaita/gtk4 theme to match your QT themes, GTK looks AMAZINGGG on KDE, I use a lot of Gnome apps on KDE with no issues :)
@DeniedANull Kate is great, blows gedit away, Dolphin is wicked with the dual panes and so many features, and with extensions I do all kinds of stuff to files, like conversions, Music file tags, graphics file rotating, resizing resolution changes and all sorts, Thumbnails of their actual content, changing the dolor of individual folders so it's much easier to find specific ones you use and so much more, Nautilus is crippled in that regard. Then there's Krename a mass file renamer, and other KDE apss that don't come with it but can be downloaded that integrate with the other apps so filerenamer works from within dolphin and similar as most KDE apps are all about functionality and work flow, and don't even get me started on the what the gnome team did by switching to a hamburger menu only a few years ago, which was the last straw for me to never use it again. KDE has one as a choice, but without just getting rid of menus as I have been using since I got a Macintosh Lisa in 1986, and has been a staple ever since in all OS's! The reasons for doing it were bogus, and the treatment of those who didn't agree it was a good choice was also really bad. If it was simpler as they claimed, then only in looks, because everything requires more clicks to do things not fewer, and for what space they gained (their main reason) which was a few pixels at best, with resolutions already much higher when they did it was a already too late, since they wanted to do it for years before they finally did, was no longer necessary and a total joke! If I want my OS to treat me like a simpleton who too easily messes stuff up, I would have just stayed on Windows, and I ditched that a long time ago, for that and other reasons.
Even this doesn't impress me one bit, and that in understanding there are glitches that will be fixed soon.
Gnome is so beautiful.
Nah. Huge margins everywhere. I suppose it's in eye of beholder, but to me it's quite ugly.
@@jothain To each their best.. Are you an old person ?
lol
@@pooja_idiot Define old? :)
@@jothain I meant 40-60. No offence intended...its just something i noticed... That old people prefer that windows look more than younger generation who mainly like minimalism
47 getting all the excellent under the hood improvements. VR headsets working properly at last, fractional scaling, easier screen recording and getting HDR going.
Gonna be messing with HDR a bunch when Fedora's new release drops. It's early days still, but I'm happy to see it all come together. Give it time and we'll see a Gnome and KDE where HDR and VRR will just work. No experimental settings, no Gamescope, no command line voodoo. Just toggle it on in the settings and enjoy. The experimental VRR already works quite well in my experience.
I like the QoL features, this really is a great update.
Qol ?
Quality of life @@pooja_idiot
@@pooja_idiot Quality of Life, things that fix small issues, make things simpler to use etc.
@@pooja_idiot Probably "quality of life"
@@pooja_idiot short for Quality of Life, because this upate has so many small features.
The new file picker is great! I think they only need to add one more thing to make it perfect:
When selecting any file a Flatpak app does not have access to, there should be a popup asking you if you want to grant the app permissions to read/write in the desired location.
Yes, like what Ubuntu is making with Snap.
@@ContraVsGigi Yeah,
If the backend for snaps wasn't closed source and canonical didn't hard code their server urls into the snap client code, I'd use snaps.
99% of the users will just agree with that popup message and other 1% already knows what they're doing
@@taiwbi That's the point. It's not to safeguard users, it's to make it so that when I need to save a file to an external drive(or anywhere outside of home) in a flatpak app I don't have to OPEN FLATSEAL AND ADD PERMISSIONS FOR THE DRIVE. As for the 99%... to them it just looks like linux is broken. They'll never figure out how to fix the problem unless a linux pro tells them. It's a major UX fail and flatpak can't be considered a viable replacement for traditional package managers until it's fixed.
I believe work is ongoing on a portal based approach to standardise a solution across DE's. It can't come soon enough.
@spartanbeef9491 I haven't had this issue with Flatpaks. Whenever I choose a file or directory from a Flatpak application that doesn't have access to it, Flatpak simply opens a portal and grants access to the file.
For example, when saving an image from a browser to a directory it doesn't have access to, Flatpak manages it just fine.
The problem with Flatpaks arises when you're selecting a directory from within the application's file manager. In that case, you don’t see your actual file system, but rather the sandboxed version of it.
Even if this issue exists with Flatpaks, it's not GNOME’s responsibility to fix.
A big thing I noticed is the ability to open the terminal from the file manager is missing.
It depends on the terminal you are using. There is an universal nautilus-open-any-terminal that supports almost anyone
@@JoaquinVacas The default terminal in Fedora 41 is Ptyxis. What package are you referring to about the nautilus-open-any-terminal?
I believe that relies on a nautilus extension package available via apt.
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These sorts of less visually/functionally drastic updates are often underestimated, but are often just as important as the more drastic ones, so thanks for shedding some light on what would otherwise fly under the radar for most people. Despite rarely using GNOME (LXQt is the most my laptop will run), it is always good news to see it consistently improve.
I think apps will need to start using the freedesktop settings portal first, it's not enough for just the desktop to implement it.
Yep, apps need to use the latest GNOME 47 SDK when being built (or yeah, another equivalent SDK that implements the FreeDesktop portal). It’s a feature of GNOME 47, so apps need to support GNOME 47.
@@CassidyJames Yeah, it's hard to expect them to be updated already.
Something something gnome breaks extensions or whatever the haters be saying nowadays
Now that accent colors have shipped, we are definitely interested in using color in more interesting places across the platform. ☺️
And yeah, GNOME 47 added support for the FreeDesktop accent color, so apps need to target GNOME 47 or an equivalent SDK that implements the FreeDesktop portal. I'm not sure what the state of those apps/SDKs from other platforms is, but if they are using the FreeDesktop portal, it should work-but it might take some time for support to roll out, similar to how the dark style preference took a little while but now works pretty much everywhere.
I love gnome. Look new gnome 47 beautiful.
While not a “big” update, Gnome is continuously refining its DE and supporting application development. Methodical and continuous improvement consistent with their vision and strategy makes it the leading DE for Linux.
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@@bruyh-ff6sg
accent colours are not frivolous. Visuals are very important for humans and affect our behaviour and productivity. It affects us so much to the point that the size of our room and how its appearance makes us feel changes the performance of our memory (just to take an example). Different people do like different things as those things suit them better but generally, cleaner rooms and desk equal better focus, memory, productivity, motivation... The look of something is not superficial but critical to its design. Looking nicer does change usability. Saying something works and so is just as good as something that looks nicer and works is judging the two by a criteria not applicable to humans. There's nothing morally wrong with the appearance of something mattering to us. It could be morally wrong to judge ourselves and be superficial and pretend that these things shouldn't matter to us. Well, they do. So... Don't believe anyone telling you looks or appearance isn't important. It is. It can be sacrificed but its still a sacrifice.
Just chill bro
When it comes to UI style Gnome is the goat in the Linux space
Fedora with Gnome looks nicer than MacOS imo
@@placeholder3853 It looks cleaner than MacOS, but it's lacking in smoothness when a lot of programs are open, 48 will hopefully solve it.
@@placeholder3853 gnome is good, But macOS is still better. Because mac os ui is made in such a way that you can build both simple and complicated apps in it. I wish only ui oriented linux devs wernt so opinionated on over minimalism.
@@rohithkumarbandari as a designer I wouldn't even say macOS is minimal anymore, it's just very user experience oriented, which GNOME does try to do, but UX research comes with a cost that open source a lot of times isn't able to pay
@@placeholder3853 i think mac is probably more likely to look consistent between programs tho
GNOME 48 will be awesome.
No 49
GNOME 49.2 will be better
It will be another "transition update - wait for the next one to get the good stuff fr fr"
I love this update
I have tried kde and xfce but gnome is my favorite de
I'm convinced GNOME is the only desktop environment that has actual UI and UX professionals working on it.
Yeah...whereas KDE feels like something designed by programmers...
@@maxarendorff6521 that's it's charm
@@maxarendorff6521 And copied from windows...
I agree! Even though I don't like some design choices, GNOME does feel quite polished in terms of UI and UX.
@@maxarendorff6521 (first reply didn't go through for some reason) that's it's charm
I really love using Gnome with Dash to Panel, Arc Menu/Runner, Blur My Shell, Bing Wallpaper, and Fluent Icons
Not a gnome user (I miss the days when you didn't have to use extensions to make it usable), but it is nice to see the improvements they are making. It's definitely a gorgeoud DE.
Extensions is, in fact, the Gnome way to configure the system. Is just using a JS API instead of a menu with 1000's of options.
You should try to make one, you'll be surprised how easy is it.
@@framegrace1
- Have to install a browser extension
- Have to install a native program that listens to the browser extension (which doesn't work GNOME web, GNOME's own browser)
- Have to go through a site that looks like a 2007 programmer designed it
- After that, you have a system tray :D
- Breaks every update and have to wait a week through a month for extensions to work again
- The extension manager still uses gtk3
Simpler than a toggle on the settings panel I guess
@@framegrace1 I have, and you’re right, it’s not terrible. But with literally every other desktop environment out there, you just don’t have to.
@@charautrealNobody installs extension through the web browsers, everybody uses the Extension Manager (which uses gtk4, not 3) and it's painfully simple to use.
It's true that extensions breaks on major updates and that sucks, but I rather lose extensions temporarily than having to deal with plasmashell crashing daily.
@@charautrealyou don't need to go to any website, just open extension manager search for the extension and enable. It's as simple as toggling fee settings.
And for the extension breaking after update, I use more than 20 extension and none of them broke after update, and there is also an option in the manager app to see which extensions are supported in gnome 47, so you can be prepared
So happy to see Nautilus becoming the default file picker! For so long, the worst part of Gnome has been interacting with the old file picker
For me is the better environment
Accessibility isn’t really an under the hood issue. It’s like if your computer didn’t have a mouse and then someone hands you a mouse. I’m running arch so I’m expecting to get gnome 47 very soon, right now I literally cannot use gnome.
Accent colors: I'm more interested in having libadwaita apps follow my non-GNOME desktop configured accent colors - and according to the implementation notes, while it will read the accent color from the settings portal, it will not apply any color you wanted - the implementation will always choose one of the 9 pre-allowed accent colors and will try to find the closest one to the one you actually want.
Colors in more places will comming in nexts releaseds. Stay tuned!
Damn 2 sponsors a video, honesty I respect it you must be rakin it in
Actually, I’m barely making ends meet 😂
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Please don’t quit. This is great content!!
@@gymnastchannel7372 I don't think he gonna
@@TheLinuxEXP Gotta diversify further I guess, this community is still a bit niche to rely on long term.
I will switch to GNOME once and if they ever implement Server Side Decorations (probably not going to happen).
The main point of Gnome is to have a consistent UI. So they will never support "userland" theming. Is like saying you will like birds when they stop having feathers.
You just don't like Gnome.
@@framegrace1 The whole point I moved away from GNOME was inconsistency in theming (wanted dark mode everywhere but some apps still displayed light titlebars, by the looks of it this is fixed in this update) and in the titlebars. mpv does not display titlebars in GNOME currently for example (tested it just now on Arch).
Also how is implementing SSDs userland theming???
@@framegrace1 enforced CSD makes theming LESS consistent. I had to bring in libdecor to add a titlebar to Factorio, and it doesn't use libadwaita so it doesn't match other apps nor your dark mode preference. Gnome on Wayland is the only place on earth where this problem exists. SSD is the solution.
@@framegrace1 where does themeing fit in wanting standards in your desktop?
@@framegrace1 What do SSD have to do with userland theming?
i really wanted to use epiphany but it was too laggy
I hope people back at gnome find a fix for Google photo sync for photos
Hey the accent colors in gnome still do more and work more consistantly than in Windows
I like updates that focus to under the hood changes. They mostly add needed polish to programs.
Nautilus file picker is ⚡⚡
Maybe I'm the minority here but I like that the accent color doesn't apply to the folders.
That's why it's called *Accent* color, not Full system color
> Gnome 47 is still a transition release
We've been getting "transition releases" since GNOME 40 lol
Ive thought this for a while now. what are we transitioning to? is there gonna be a big payoff update or set of updates?
@@realchoodle It's a way to justify the fact that every update barely brings any new features because "they were working on a lot of changes under the hood"
@@catto-from-heaven tbf, it is mostly content creators saying this, not gnome itself
@@realchoodle Yeah, I know
Gonna re-write it in Rust haha.
Gnome and Warhammer, love it ^^
Gnome beautiful as always.
"There is no reason why this shouldn't work" is something I yell often.
Unleash the Skaven! Yes-yes!
Things I care about are: triple buffering, fractional scaling and framedrop on web browsers on Wayland during video playback glitch (is it fixed?)
I commented before watching. I know now.
@14:38 “… the new Vulkan renderer that should speed things up using your gpu when playing back video”
I’ve heard that currently there is no triple buffering support built into Gnome.
Also, I take it that you didn’t watch the video
@@jimmyrichards5595 thankx. I commented before watching. I know about it.
@@jimmyrichards5595 I commented before watching the video. I know but thankx.
Is the recording made in a virtual machine? There are some lags and delays that do not look nice.
Absolutely, the lack of options in quick settings is a dead giveaway that it was running in a vm.
Way better then Windows 11 desktop!
My brand new laptop came with windows 11, what a waste of 40 euros, could've saved that for an Ryzen 7, anywho, I threw it right in the trash for gnome. Like always works amazing!
It looks prettty. Im going to compile it on my Debian 12 Bookworm 🥰
I love GNOME, but for some reason they took out the Autoconnect button from the VPN profile and now you have to remember everytime after starting the computer to start the VPN which is stupid. Why would they do that I have no clue.
It's worth noting that the move to Nautilus as a file picker may not be acceptable for all apps due to restrictions present in the GTK API around file type. So don't be surprised if some more complex apps still use the legacy file picker.....
Video chapter says squarespace is ground news btw
New Gnome version translates to “everyone update your apps/extensions (please)”.
Now you have a new branch for gnome 47+ as well as another one if you intend on supporting previous Gnome versions packaged into LTS releases. Have fun 👍
Why dies no one talk about the blurry programs when using fractional scaling :(
Probably gnome became most beautiful DE among all desktop OSs.
Aren't there any changes with Gnome Disks? I thought I saw something about Gnome Disks being largely improved in Gnome 47.
File picker is huge. Now the only thing left that I want from nautilus is to tell me how much disk space is available in the directory I'm in without me having to dig into menus or launching disk analyser applications. Simple used/total info displayed somewhere.
Ctrl+i
Is VRR still experimental in gnome 47?
So Xwayland now has server-side decorations, but not Wayland?
cool release!
kinda sad about the revamped dialog buttons (the "sort of inverted tabs located at the bottom of the dialog" ones), I really liked the previous ones and will miss them, but overall I think it's for the better
I think both design choices are beautiful and I like it when the desktop switches things up a little to keep things fresh. I'd love to see them rotate the two choices for each release, even though it's definitely not practical
I hope this fix the scale cursor hover issue that I have in Wayland, that is the only reason now why I do not use it.
So, no Inter font as the default?
You can set it up yourself for now.
Can we make the corners of everything less round? It looks very inflated and I don't know. It's friendly, but ... EVERYTHING has rounded rectangles. 8px or 4px would be fine, but it's like a big puffy fluffy feel meh. I'm old though, so ignore me.
Have you noticed that the message from the sponsor is in your voice? Weird, right?
Hopefully Gnome 50 for 26.04 LTS has all these wayland improvements and fractional scaling fully implemented
I can confirm Nemo adopts the accent colour in Ubuntu
But , then so does the native Files app (Nautilus/Gnome Files)
Gnome 46 currently has a bug with touchscreens that causes a core dump, I'm really hoping it's fixed with 47 🙏
Hope openSUSE is as fast as usual with the new Gnome.
Can't wait.
I hope they already plan something big for Gnome 50
I know it's 1.5 years to go but I am always exited for a new Version and I hope 50 will arrive with a big boom
Gnome 50 future 2026
Just upgraded Alpine edge and I was wondering what happened to Nautilus
The reason why I left gnome ist the messy color scheme.
Now I use kde and everything looks way more out of the box even with custom themes
Im still waiting for gnome to fix their implementation of wayland. You still cant properly use 3rd party screenshot annotation tools like flameshot in doing screenshots
Great video
KDE HDR is still broken. SDR brightness slider doesn't seem to be doing anything, and high refresh-rate displays cause intense lag for some reason.
6.2 Beta on Fedora, can safely say 165hz works a lot smoother, than on 6.1.4 or 6.1.5.
I heard once that Fedora was going to switch to KDE as main DE sometime soon. Does it make any sense? Did someone read something about it?
It was the equivalent of a user suggestion. There is no weight behind it.
Cosmic, which is still in alpha, already does a better job in applying theme colors to gtk3/gt4 apps, including flatpaks, just saying.
COSMIC does it in a hacky and unsupported way that creates a high risk of breakage. GNOME’s new implementation actually comes with a promise of always working nicely.
@@bragefuglseth3505 Sure, I get that. I personally don't mind as I would not keep the default theme on gtk3/gtk4 apps, so it would be hacky for me in any case, as full-blown theming is not officially supported by Gnome.
Speaking as a less 'able' user, I think it'd be great if the storage advisor provided links to ACTUALLY allow you to manage them.
Any one answer two questions I have.
Is there a stable distro you can chuck on a MacBook Pro M2 yet?
What’s the best language to learn to write cross platform apps? Flutter I’ve heard good and bad things about.
I'll take under-the-hood updates, no problem. Not every update needs to be a showstopper. Just keep it running like a tank.
Just got it today with Fedora 41. Nautilus as the file picker is the biggest update since the old GTK file picker was trash.
nice changes. But kde is still my favorite desktop environment
Can't wait to try fraxtionap scaling. I can finally run my laptop at 1440p and not have everything be tiny
1:50 "for a while now" since like Windows 3.1
I love Gnome
Triple buffer still isn't included by default? This was planned for Gnome 42, why is this taking so long.
Gnome + Roboto font + Subpixel antialiasing❣️
Nice can not wait to use new file picker.
I use Debian btw
Here’s hoping trixie includes gnome 47
Enjoy your file picker in 2046! :D
I like epiphany for web-apps.
I'm currently using Plasma 5. Was using 6 on Arch and loved it, just switched to Mint because i was tired of NVIDIA troubles.
How does Gnome compare?
You can totally use Plasma 6 on X11
@@alexb8969 Interesting. I can only seem to get 5 working.
Hi, I want to know a linux desktop with changeable two finger scroll for laptop touchpad"s. Thanks.( without libinput commands or complcated terminal jank. just oob)
what is "changeable" 2 finger scroll?
on Gnome you can choose to scroll the content or the view.
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw thanks. ill give it a try but this feature is a miss on most distros. any u'd recommend?
I don't believe kde plasma or any other desktop in the world supports remapping touchpad gestures like scrolling. You have to use some other application for this, and I believe input-remapper can do the job. If not, there's Touché, but it only works on x11 afaik
@@fly1ngsh33p7i mean like changing the speed
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw thank you so much
As much as I prefer KDE over Gnome, I simply cannot deny that they are the least easy to break. So if Gnome is the image of linux, I would be completely fine with that.
the biggest update is that the G actually was upated to be silent now.
i for one am fucking furious and will be forking the project
Seems a strange thing to care about - for them, I mean, I'm assuming you are actually joking.
@@thescrewfly yeah i'm just joking
Gnome: accent colors
Windows 11 meanwhile: We have contrast colors that can change how your desktop looks entirely.
Noting is beautiful other than a Tilling window manager
Thank you.
Man, Gnome is pretty.
11:23 Completely agree 😊
Honestly Gnome took the freedom of choice to choose for ourselves and lock out almost every standard and basic stylish/look feature, sad AF, that is why I hate it and if I need to use it I always go for Extensions or it makes me puke.
The most I stick to Cinnamon or KDE the more I love them... and the more I hate Gnome, thankfully the COSMIC desktop is kind of decent but still so far from final release...
I really really hope they fixed the Microsoft OneDrive integration too. While I am switching all of my personal data to a personal cloud, my work and gaming PC still use OneDrive for storage and sharing of documents.
The only desktop that works best with touch screen. All the gestures work out of the box. And the layout feels more modern and tablet-like UI. Hope they will improve the virtual keyboard on tablet mode, that keyboard still feels clunky.
Create file must be added in Qnom files
It's there if you add a Template file to base it on. I think some distros do this? Head to ~/Templates and there is even an infobar that links to the documentation.
@@CassidyJamesthey should put some default ones in there, but I guess that's the user or distro's job?
I always think Gnome looks incredible in these videos. Then I switch to it and decide I hate it within a week. IDK why but I just can't get on Team Gnome. Even though I think it looks incredible
Same.
Scrolling etc on Gnome for me is stuttering all the time.
KDE is buttery smooth.
QGIS not optimised for Wayland OMG
I think it is a nice release but honestly, I am kinda no impressed. I just don't like that they give zero customization. I don't have any major issues with the stock grey but man, every other desktop gives a competent customization suite. I like GNOME a bit too much to move away from it right now, but I just might because I have been a bit underwhelmed with the transitional releases.
i like gnome, have been using it for a long time, and i really like the design they went for, but I tried KDE last month and was shocked at how thing just work. Stuff is more integrated, settings EXIST, don't have to download a billion extensions for basic stuff like minimizing, or having to download flatseal to manage such basic stuff as application permissions. I hope gnome comes around someday, but the higher ups think in a way that won't let gnome evolve as it should.
@DeniedANull yeah, 100% agree with you on that for a lot of apps. There are exceptions of course. Gnome's syatem monitor and partition manager are a joke compared to the kde counterparts.
The buttons in the folder creation modal and alert dialogs are horrible and out of harmony with the look itself, as they are divergent, add the round buttons or the square buttons, not both, and the Nautilus sidebar I prefer the one in Gnome 46, and the time on the lock screen could have less weight in bold, the rest from what I saw still looks good