Brian Clough & Don Revie Double Interview | The Damned United | CineStream
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- An historic and highly entertaining interview with Brian Clough & Don Revie after Clough's dismissal from Leeds.
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The Damned United (Tom Hooper/2009) SYNOPSIS: The story of the controversial Brian Clough's 44-day reign as the coach of the English football club Leeds United.
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I personally think this movie is so underated!! Brilliant acting by everyone involved and these 2guys are simply amazing 👍
I’m not even a football fan… but the movie was absolutely riveting!
the film is bullshit fiction and trades peoples reps for arses on seats
And highly fictionalised. The real interview portrayed in this scene was far more riveting and the substance of the interview completely different. All that bullshit over the lack of a handshake.......fiction.
Colm Meaney is worth the turnstile fee itself.
In the real interview Don is a lot more respectful and patient. And so was Brian. Brian clearly has a somewhat uncomfortable and contemptuous attitude at the beginning, but soon comes to be much warmer toward Don. They defend each other from the interviewer misconstruing their words against each other several times.
Spoiler - this film isn't a documentary. Hope that helps.
This portrayal of the interview is a LOT different from the real one 😅
Obviously they have to abridge the original 45 minutes interview! Plus had to point the original feud b/n these two!
@@nat5112 I wasn't talking about the length, I specifically meant the portrayal.
The main conflict in this interview is about Don's lack of respect (refusing to shake hands and bringing up Clough's poor handling of Derby, Leeds and Peter Taylor).
In the actual interview none of this is mentioned and Don come across as very statesmanlike (although there is a conflict, it's not so much Clough= Good guy and Don= Villain).
The original interview is incredible
@@SRPC21 It's not mentioned because it never happened. It may be inspired by real events, but this movie is almost as fiction as any other movie (in all the most stupid and clichéd ways possible). And the portrayal of Clough is shameful as well.
In the original it's the interviewer and future MP Austin Mitchell who more than once tries to stir things up and Don Revie puts him back in his box, eg telling him he's "jumping the gun". Cloughie for the first time is laid bare in contrast to the character that fans of other teams loved to hate. Yes there's some liberties taken with the movie dialogue I dare say, but for me its fact based enough to be a very enjoyable watch.
The actor playing Don Revie has got this down to a T. Brilliant.
Colm Meaney
Chief O'brien. When he left Star Fleet, 'e wen' t' football.
Pat Farrell the fat barrel
I didn’t realise just how far off the original interview this is. Nor Clough or Revie were as antagonistic as this. Too much artistic license with the dialogue too.
Stupid comment really because if you did some research the whole movie was based on a book. The book is a semi fictional imagining of Cloughs time as Leeds manager
He specifically said the interview tho, why are you getting so mad over a comment?
@@G17x because there are loads of comments from dumbasses who don’t do their research all it takes is a quick google and you know that the film is based on a semi fictional book imagining it from Brian Cloughs point of view including a fictional take on this interview
@@aryastark772 True to be fair and the handshake wasn't even an issue in the actual interview. I see your point and I do think theu definitely added some dramatic points. I just think that this is the scene that could've happened based on Brian's own mind. But you don't gotta attack him like that😂
@@aryastark772 If anything a lot of criticism I've seen about the film is how much it follows the book, that's way far off from what actually happened.
They make out here that Clough didn't know Revie was joining. Of course he knew in the real one and had no issues with it at all.
The book is crap and so is the film.
The casting was just perfect!
This constant criticism of Don Revie makes me sick. He was one of the greatest
The actual interview was so much better than this fictionalised version.
In the real interview, he called Don Revie "Mr. Revie", not just "Revie".
And don revie called him "clough" then corrected himself
Absolute misrepresentation this film
This is how it would have been if they'd been able to be completely honest. They pushed artistic licence to the limit with this, but it works even if you've seen the real interview - just.
@@TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels no it doesn't. They got cloughie all wrong. Cloughie didn't know what self doubt was.
I watched the real interview a few years after the film. They clearly had disagreements but showed professionalism to one another.
I think it is a great film, historical mistakes apart, but this interview seems to me to be much more confrontational than the original which we can see on RUclips.
Cloughie went on to become a legend at Nottingham Forest and Don Revie fell flat on his face with the England Job
To be fair that job is a poisoned chalice
Who hasn't fell flat on their face as England manager.
And anyone whose seen this real interview knows there's been some exceptional licence taken with it. This interview is a work of total fiction compared to what was really said.
I get what people are saying in the comments but remember it's a movie not a documentary. It builds on a much less accurate book. The scene is very authentic to the real interview, lots of the same dialog as well!
I find it odd, the original interview was so good they could have just replicated parts of it. This version is not really too similar to be honest.
The casting in this movie was on point
its worth remembering this this was the flim's only opportunity to create a dialogue between them. This was their way to flesh out the way both men felt about each other directly in a one to one situation.
Few people ever got the upper hand with Brian clough a man i admire very much God bless you Brian
The most interesting thing is that these two have no chance to overact real Brian and Don from original footage.
Great acting from both
I think if Clough, Revie and Bremner had been around in 2009 they'd have all been suing Duncan Peace for libel.
They would, because Johnny Giles sued for just that.
Revie would have done anything for some money, Cloughie would have been too drunk, Billy would have shrewdly made some money
Amazing to think they were both born literally a couple of streets from each other
This is the only scene of the film I don’t like. They change too much
I believe Clough. If Reavie was a man of principle, who respects the game as he says he did, he would know who the manager is of every club he plays in every competition. He snubbed his nose at Clough, treating him like he was beneath him just like Clough said. He was the Bill Belichek of the time with his championship team playing in his mind a small D-III college.
Unlikely. Revie was an old school manager with strong principles. He never refused to shake any other managers hand so why would he start with some Second Division manager who he had no ill feelings against.
Brian Clough was always an ego-maniac. The handshake story was just to cover his bitterness at been badly beaten by a leading First Division side.
That part is fictional, it's not even in the real interview
@@dubiouscaesar3709 Yep
Hey pal. Its a movie. This isn't how the interview went. Also clough cheated leeds out a title with Derby so.....
This whole movie and the book on which it was based was a hatchet job on Clough. You can’t FAKE a biography especially when there are documented proof to disprove that fairness. Clough knew that Don Revie was going to be on that show and welcomed the chance to debate him. It wasn’t ‘sprung’ on him as this implies.
This is nothing like the real interview
Revie looks more like Revie than Revie.
Things this film got totally wrong.
Lots of misrepresentation, a lot of this dialogue isn't accurate and never happened.
And this film makes out clough had all this self doubt, he didn't, he was supremely confident
Watch the real interview, it's more entertaining.
The film its self makes me feel uncomfortable
its reflects the 1970s in that regard.....a decade of contrasts.
Snowflakes always feel uncomfortable
To be fair the real interview was actually better then this but I suppose squeezing a 28 minute interview into a movie is hard to do.
This is the interview they had in their heads
I couldn't watch this. I've not seen the movie and won't ever now.
You wouldn't get away with a interview like this today
They might have done better to quote the original interview which is on RUclips and looks like a film. It's tense but also more nuanced. I am not criticising the acting on this film which is superb just perhaps the script in this bit.
total fantasy. The real interview was far more cordial and quite constructive. I think Morgan and Hooper must of bought a job lot of poetic licences.
The original interview was an honest but respectful affair. Not sure what this was
The Don Revie actor is identical to the real guy!
Colm Meaney
I think Don Revie was played by don revie jr.
@@howshecuttingbogman8999 No, are you having a laugh
Both actors done extremely well as Clough and Revie. But The real interview is so much better. As they clash in a more respectful manner. And both picked at each other’s opinion out like it was a dissection of their views. Wasn’t like a personal hatred rather they believed their way was better. And both made decent points and countered each other brilliantly.
One thing that stuck out in the real interview is Revie says to Clough that he should have made time for all in the club. And he should have greeted everyone from the upper board to the tea ladies when first arriving. Which Clough said there was no time for that. But I really thought that Revie was completely in the right in that regard. Just that one bit in the interview that showed they were worlds apart. Both great managers but it’s like when people say they are not on the same page. These 2 were not even on the same book.
This is the interview we could have had if neither person hadn't been the pro that they were.
That's why these two never got on, two very different people who were so good at what they did but had opposite styles and philosophies on football and both were successful with it. The problem came when much like Titanic and iceberg destiny very much crossed their paths for them at a critical moment and we had what we got.
Clough and Revie were born and bred in Middlesbrough. Both very different men though.
Think Colm Meaney is perfect as Don Revie
I enjoyed the real interview much better. :)
This is different to the real interview, however, it clearly depicts the true feeling between the two.
Well the film's writers showed what they thought of Revie by signing off him as Don Revie England Manager, as if to emphasise his deserting the job, and Clough's being overlooked.
I didn't like this video mostly because it differs heavily from the real interview and it portrays Revie as a villain which was far from the real case
Typical drama not at all like the real interview
Colm Meaney is an alias used by Johnny Giles.
What they did in the original interview was a disgrace. No way Clough should have been put up against Revie in this interview (the real one, of course).
Hang on, was that massaging bit only in the film m, The Damned United? I'm disappointed now.
My late Father John Wilford set this up
This is not how the interview went. They would have been better off just showing the actual interview
A whole lot of artistic license being taken here, with the exception of a few accurate lines, this is nothing like the actual interview!
Unless you were a Leeds fan not many liked Revie.
Not a fan of this. They change too much. The acting is very good but in the real thing Brian definitely gets the upper hand over Don, but in this it’s the complete opposite.
The film is based on a semi fictional semi biographical book
Revie nailed him in the real thing. The bit about Clough having no introductory meeting was carnage. Clough was drunk anyway.
@@HandleGFThe part where Revie challenged him over meeting the staff on his first day was probably the only part where he totally owned Clough, making him look bad with his weak response. The rest was pretty even imo.
Clough most certainly wasn't drunk that day.
Is that Brian Clough or Michael Sheen? I can't tell the difference.
Brilliant scene! Great acting, Sheen is absolutely superb!!!!! 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
Brain claugh sen bizim herşeyimizsin
they were both good, but they were no Mike Bassett.
Watch the real interview. It's a lot better than this.
The real life interview is so much better than this.
Great film and great acting but the real interview was nothing like that
Brian Clough from the valleys.
Clough was proven right.
Cloughie trounced Revie in the real interview.
I think it was a fair draw from what I have seen.
Well once you have a BIGMOUTH it's hard for others to get a world in.
You should have been docked points and sent down to the 2nd Division
Funny, that's what Cloughie said.
Recently watched this after finishing Ted Lasso and the original interview between these two, its a great football film. Brian Clough seems to have been an inspiration for Nate on that show.
So far off the Original
Total misrepresentation of an actual event.
The portrayal of the interview is completely and utterly fatuous because the real thing is available at a click on u tube. Absolute insult to anyone dumb enough to watch the film.
Not gonna watch film now. I know it's artistic license but they changed way to much here.
Hard to pick sides really
Nothing against the film or the actors but the real thing is sooooo much better than this
Colm Meaney's performance in this film is miles better than Michael Sheen's.
Revie might have won the battle here but Clough won the war… and Revie was corrupt as anything
"I soaped those boys down" 🤮
with my own hands
I want him so bad michael please
Welsh??.😅
Although they’ve tried their best to make them all look and act like the real characters, it’s not really worked…visually or audibly….🤔…bit of a parody in fact
What a load of crap...just follow the original dialogue.
Nothing like the actual interview total rubbish this scene !
It's a film!
It's a dramatisation.
@@SA-ff9ucExcept the real thing is much more entertaining
Fake film
What exactly is a fake film?
This is inaccurate - look at the actual interview, which is much more interesting than this.
The trouble is it's a crap film, the real Clough was far far more entertaining.
The made Brian Clough Welsh! 🤣
Don Revie was a Rudeboy!
bad acting. its on youtube anyway lol
This is brilliant acting- I don’t know what you’re talking about.
Samuel Coe right! I thought it was a great portrayal too!
Nathaniel B
I think the acting’s great but the interview itself is quite different from the real one (nothing to do with the acting though, mainly the script).
Brian Clough had the last laugh I think.
He did what Revie couldn’t do and win the European Cup twice on the run.
And Revie failed as England manager.
Look at Leeds's history with bad refereeing. That leeds team of the early 70s would have destroyed cloughs forest any day
Revie won 2 titles and an FA Cup, League Cup and was robbed in a European Cup final.
Clough won 1 title, 4 League Cups and 2 European Cups.
Revie basically built Leeds from the ground up, produced a dominant side for a decade, one of the great teams in English football history and one of the great clubs in England (still huge to this day, despite 16 years away from the PL). Leeds was a rugby team before Revie. Leeds wouldn't exist as a major club without Revie.
I don't see how anyone can have Clough winning this contest, you can say they're equals if you want. But Clough gets elevated because of his "personality" and his media love-in. While Revie gets marked down for what happened with England.
fully agree.
Who hasn't failed as England manager.
Watch the real interview…….no slagging off….