"I HATE my f**king country because of people like you" - Destiny Debates
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- Date streamed: October 8, 2018
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“I like a lot of what he’s done.”
“Can you name one thing?”
“I don’t have all the facts on me.”
“I’m asking you for one thing.”
“I’m just not prepared to have a full discussion.”
“I don’t want a full discussion, I just need ONE thing.”
“I like a lot of what he’s done.”
“I hate you.”
I look forward to a super cut of destiny shouting that he hates people in the near future
@@sephose7441 One day I will debate Destiny and get flammed
Pure gold
I mean destiny started out the first 15 minutes of the conversation equating the guys total beliefs to that of radical conservatives, can you really blame the guy for not wanting to partake in a fruitful conversation with him?
A good example is when destiny said 50% of the population dont believe in climate change, and that simply isnt true.
A small minority of right leaning people actually believe that. Most conservatives thinks its a problem that we eventually need to solve, but they either
a) Dont think we have a good solution to solve it (an example would be they think all we can do is wait for renewable resource technology to get better)
b) They think there are other more important problems to solve, and the likelihood of us making it better with some stupid carbon tax isnt going to help.
This is a perfect example of destiny's cognitive dissonance coming into play. If he wants to play that game I could then assume that he is for socialism because the dems have socialists candidates (this isnt a good thing to assume, just using it as an example).
Every time I talk to my dad about Trump at family barbecues and holidays I literally ask him the same thing: Just name one policy of his that you've liked, he couldn't name anything and he kept trying to change the subject. Whenever I call out objectively retarded shit Trump does, policy wise or just on his behavior he'll respond with: Well Obama did this, or Well what about when Obama...... It's like DUDE WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT OBAMA HE HASN'T BEEN THE PRESIDENT FOR THREE FUCKING YEARS. Boomers.
This dude: “Here’s my research paper, professor.”
His Professor: “Where are your sources?”
This dude: “Jeez, get off my back, I’ll do the research later.”
LMAOOOO pretty much sums it up.
CWG90 If somebody is making a positive claim about reality, that is stepping out of the realm of a pure logical argument. Then the burden of proof lies on the person making the positive claim to provide evidence, not on anybody else to provide counter evidence.
"THE SKY IS FALLING" (X, any claim)
"Wait, why do you think that X?"
"Well, I don't know. Just rebut my claim without any proof that the claim is valid in the first place."
???????????????????????
You realize it's not just that there wasn't sourcing right? There wasn't any "presented information" to begin with. The single tax meme they were on about for like 20 minutes WAS rebutted. Are you just this guy's alt account or something?
@CWG90 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot
Did you not read ANYTHING anyone typed just now? You can't construct an argument based on nothing. The dude's one argument for the improving economy was "tariffs", even though not a single serious economist would corroborate it, was already rebutted, and no other arguments were made. It's not the other person's responsibility to make a counterargument against you if you can't form an argument in the first place, though it is funny that you're using the exact behaviors used by the fiscally conservative dude in the clip to try and assassinate character. A failure to make an argument leaves little room to counter.
"I'm a centrist"
"I'm a fiscal conservatives"
"I identify with the republican party"
This guy went through the centrist transformation right before our eyes
This still holds up
A lot of people do that. They place themselves in the middle because they think that makes them seem more rational, then they start talking and don't realize how extreme some of their viewpoints are. Or they know, but still need the validation.
It’s called “the Tim Pool”
@@Sprite_525 How many people are swimmng in the Tim Pool by now?
ruclips.net/video/1wJjmyJmcQw/видео.html
"I'm going to be a full on commie in two months" - Oh Steven. Poor, naive Stephen. If only you knew.
*laughs in burned bridges*
stop, don't remind me, Pepehands.
Feels bad 😔
Are you referring to the Rittenhouse stuff?
@@MsSnoozable I'm just referring to the fact that Steven hates commies
I knew this was gonna be good when in the first minute:
"you do this thing where you criticize people based on their viewpoint."
How many republicans does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Not all of them
*Tip tip*
A faulty liberal
Would have been better if you said "not quite all of them". For example, how many Democrats does it take to sexually assault someone? Not quite all of them, but damn are they trying.
LOL
"I really like the way Trump screws in lightbulbs. I mean, I can't name for you a lightbulb he's screwed in, I don't have all the data in front of me. This doesn't have to be a debate, okay? I just think he's done a lot of good for lightbulbs in America. What, you want to know the good things he's done for lightbulbs? See, this is what you always do, you use these shifty debating tricks to strawman me and make it look like I don't know what I'm talking about! You just talk fast and look up all this "data" -- but you know what, there's a bunch of data I could throw at you that would make me sound smart too. NO, I DON'T *HAVE* THE DATA, JUST BELIEVE ME THAT IT EXISTS!!!"
I can argue the conservative position better than he can and I hate trump.
This dude is a very typical conservative
Trump isn’t conservative
Einstien Brown Probably more like hyper neo-cons, the only true form of conservatism, separate from economics, is what you might call paleo-conservatism. Neo-cons sought to tie in fiscal politics with the conservative practice, which is now largely present in the republican party of America, which Trump belongs to. I’d never regard him as a conservative. Call me a gatekeeper, it’s just how it is.
Holy shit uploading like an hour after it happened!!!! It’s almost like destiny is putting effort into this
It's a Columbus Day miracle
He has competition now, there is another youtube channel that'll post his clips, so he has to get there before him. It also shows that is clear demand for this shit.
The Third Heat who
He moving to Cali too
Gary*
*dies of treatable cancer
"Yeah but not all Republicans agree with that."
That's the thing. If many republicans had any of the sense about them they'd be voting democrat. Any moderate republican or even "extreme" republican from 30 years ago belongs in the dem camp now. But like was demonstrated here, they work backwards from their conclusion, and their politics is often tied directly with their church/religion/family/community. People talk about identity politics. I know nobody that really "identifies" as a democrat. It's simply where they fall based on their beliefs. But Republican is almost a synonym for American in these guys minds. So christian republicans vote in other christian republicans because they match their identity. And complain when we call them out for voting in what inevitably ends up being insidious koch shills, racists, sexists, terrorists of the country and agents of misery.
The Republican party is right just like God is real and it's up to the conservative to justify that by any means necessary.
@@Ciph3rzer0 if only you know why they became reps in the first place
I love how Republicans talk about a civil discourse and we should listen to their views. Then in the next breath will call anyone Democrat anti-American, terrorist, socialist... etc.
Tribalism falls to all of the frail that are afraid to handle responsibility themselves.
jonl1319 These people call Biden a socialist and I’m just like............. I wish
That isn't all Republicans. Lol
@@Onthebrink5 They didn't say "all republicans" did they Shawn.
@@AdamJMGamesDev Please show me the caveat that said "not all Republicans." Generalizing a group of people usually implies a majority. Keep strawmanning buddy. I obvious meant all Republicans while they meant some.
The conversion to socialism is almost complete KKomrade
Oye, tovarich.
Hamza Ajmal is it possible to learn this power?
Please save Nathan from conservatives!!! I can't live without him!
He is almost at full power, we must search further.
RIP liberal Destiny. Greetings insurrectionist Destiny. ruclips.net/video/X1mYPidMQek/видео.html
The kid presents a classic example of motivated reasoning. Start with your conclusion and then work backwards towards confirmation by use of confirmation bias.
More like start with your conclusion and then don´t do shit and don´t even learn the dishonest defenses for shit policies floating aroud on the internet
Are you technically alt right if you only vote republic to keep rights?
@Stephen Weir
This is a even better and probably the most depressing thing ever.
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@@dudeman7738 the only rights they seem to protect are 2nd amendment rights.
@@diegorincon4673 they don't protect the 2nd amendment, because they come to the defense of cops that shoot unarmed people that the cop thought the victim "had a gun".
Don't concede that the economy is doing well. Wages have been stagnant, cost-of-living (healthcare, education, rent, mortgages, food, gas) is through the roof. The stock market is high, but that only benefits a small amount of wealthy Americans.
"As of 2013, the 10 percent of households with the highest wealth owned more than 80 percent of all stock shares. The bottom 80 percent of all households owned just 8 percent."
This is NOT a good economy. Yeah unemployment is low.. enjoy your low wage job + side gigs while getting worked into the ground.
People don't realize this. I'm glad someone brought it up in the comments, holy fuck. Just because unemployment is low doesn't mean the economy is "good." I doubt this young white dude is even feeling the effects of this "thriving economy," unless he has stocks in all the right places at all of the right times.
Technically the economy is still going well though. Overall measure of economy isn't talking about wages of the working class so that's not really relevant to the economy. It is true the economy is doing well but the benefits of that are going to the 1%
@@Alan-wj5zc a lot of these guys refused to acknowledge that, by their standards, the economy was doing well under Obama.
"Technically the economy is still going well though. Overall measure of economy isn't talking about wages of the working class so that's not really relevant to the economy. " By that way of thinking the best economic period in the world might have been around the black plague periods of Europe where millions died. Feudal lords generally made a fortune on selling grain during famines and plagues. In Sweden we even killed about 30% of the population of Finland (belonged to sweden back then) by selling so much grain to northern europe that farmers didn´t have enough grain seeds to reseed their fields. Economy isn´t the stock exchange.
And the federal debt / gdp ratio is nearing pre-financial crisis highs again. What an amazing economy!
"Haven't they been saying climate change has been a problem for years."
Damn. It's like we haven't been listening for years.
update: the world is on fire
Update: the world is on fire again
Update: Water wars have officially started, Climate Refugees are surging, and we actually got worse on emissions than like 2 years ago and are sprinting towards worst-case scenario numbers.
Update: The world is even more on fire than before.
"I'm more of a fiscally conservative person and social liberal person"
This guy is a meme personified, love it
Sounds like Dave "marketplace of ideas" Rubin.
A Libertarian.
Literally destiny
@Joel Lundqvist wait im not sure I get it can someone explain it to me
TL;DW caller has strong opinions but no facts to back them up. Saved you 51 minutes.
any self respecting destiny fan watches on 2x speed, so 25.5 minutes.
@@robgeach8105 +1
Thank goodness! The summary we all need and deserve!
Why do people have to justify their opinions let people believe in what they want its a waste of time trying to change people's ideas
@@robgeach8105 if it was a Ben shapiro video 0.75
*Debate me and you will say you don't feel so good.*
this is cool
no this is EPIC!
Destiny will got Kulinski'd in this debate
What did Big Seltzer do to you?
This account is perfect imo
hahait’s so funny to hear republicans say they hate labels when all they do is label and get so triggered
They label the left, liberals,muslims,brown people...
Ironic
@@kuirkyy don't liberals call themselves liberals?
Liberals and dems are all about labels. you forget how in california it was ok to call the law on someone for "not using the right label/pronoun" on accident. Republicans have their issues but so do the democrats. I also feel like Destiny purposely debates people who he knows will be ill prepared so he can look good. Dude has never been ok. But its not the Repbulicans labeling people. Its the democrats/libs. they have to remind their sheep minority voters how oppressed and different they are everytime to instill the "youre different and we're ok with that as long as it helps push our narrative" fear. And god help you if you dont think like them. Then they'll try to take your black card away, tell you you dont belong to your race. If youre gay, you get told you have interalized homophobia , etc etc etc. They pretty much dehumanize you if you dont agree. I dont see republicans going to the extreme they do. Dems/libs are known for trying to get people fired and everything lol. So judging from what ive seen, the dems/libs seem to be the triggered ones this time.
romanticwander "in california it was ok to call the law on someone for "not using the right label/pronoun" on accident."
False. Just a straight up lie. Senate Bill 219 states that it is unlawful to “willfully and repeatedly fail to use a resident’s preferred name or pronouns after being clearly informed of the preferred name or pronouns.” The crime is defined as a misdemeanor. It is a *senior rights* bill, designed to protect LGBT seniors from discrimination in places such as hospitals and retirement homes. In order to face any jail time whatsoever, you must do this purposefully and multiple times. Basically, you have to be the kind of person who enjoys bullying old people.
"But its not the Repbulicans labeling people."
Obviously false.
"Its the democrats/libs. they have to remind their sheep minority voters how oppressed and different they are everytime to instill the 'youre different and we're ok with that as long as it helps push our narrative' fear."
There is not even two sentences between you saying Republicans don't label people, and you labeling every single minority democrat a "Sheep." Hilarious.
And for the record, both parties use fear tactics. With the republicans it's about the government, tyranny, the gays, the sluts, people saying "Happy holidays," guns being taken away by the boogeyman, etc. With the democrats it's climate change (something you *should* be afraid of, to be fair), guns not being regulated, mass shootings, voter rights, LGBT rights, women's rights, etc. And some of the "Fear tactics" on both sides have merit, but I don't care enough to delve into that.
"They pretty much dehumanize you if you dont agree. I dont see republicans going to the extreme they do."
See an eye doctor. This is not specific to democrats. Look at how republicans treat gay people when they just want a fucking cake made; or look at abortion, or how they act towards those considering them, or who've had them; or voter ID laws; or how they treat the poor, etc.
"Dems/libs are known for trying to get people fired and everything lol."
Look at all the republicans who got James Gunn fired over a crass joke. Especially amusing coming from the party that _labels_ the other side snowflakes. God, I can't imagine living in a world as black & white as yours. It must be nice thinking that everything wrong with the world is the fault of the other side.
I honestly think that the guy is just an idiot - but not a malicious, stereotypical Alt Right one. He probably did 'research' and Googling - but took everything at face value, didn't critically analyze and now cannot remember any of it.
So to him, he did 'research' but he was so surface-value shallow at it, it left no impact so he can't remember it and has to keep arguing that he did research but cannot remember it so he has to re-look it up. He FEELS like he did research and genuinely cannot recall it.
He didn't do research by Googling. If he did, he'd come across some valid sources. Most likely he's a gamer and when some of his favorite RUclipsrs started talking about Gamergate it led him down the right-wing path. He probably gets most of his information from RUclips videos, tbh.
@@TheCapn23 Aren't gamers generally more left leaning cause young and educated?
@@marktwister432 I'm inclined to agree with you on that. However, there seems to be a surge of right wing ideology in gaming. At least that's my anecdotal experience. I think gamergate brought on a lot of that.
My experience with actual people is generally that they're more left wing but the really vocal ones seem to be reactionaries and shit so who knows
@@Junebug89 Right ideology tends to have short term solutions. And most people don't bother looking into the details so they take the surface level information that they've gathered from one person and conclude their beliefs right there...
The guy in the video is a prime example of such a person.
49:28 "I'm gonna be a full on commie in two months"
WE GOT HIM, BOYS
Gross
Yeah so.. that didn't happen, rip
pepeLaugh
Nah we need commies to fuck off to Venezuela
This def did not age well.
That’s why the Ben Shapiro “facts over feelings” saying is so insanely ironic.
Travis Lawrence yea but he doesn’t even like trump I don’t think and he usually is educated on some things but most of the time he’s versing retards
Travis Lawrence if you feel like a women but you are clearly a man it’s not stupid to tell them they’re wrong
Yeah very i mean just look at your comment its legit just feelings no facts om there what so ever
@@charleynewman5057 what am I projecting when I'm asking you point f****** blank who commits the most interracial crime between the groups
@@charleynewman5057 who commits more interracial murder answer the f****** question jackass
This is literally Patrick Star and Man Ray.
Also, turns out Destiny’s good. Glad to know this.
@Kev_ Bot Ben Shapiro, amirite?
Majin Melon So are you.
@Majin Melon pseudo*
THE SCREAM @ 42:40
Has me rolling
DemonGrenade274 im almost there, my soul is ready
luisbo3 I’m sure you weren’t disappointed
@@luisbo3 me too
@@bennybyers1409 correct
This is what I was looking for.
"Its not about policies, its about the way you engage people"
Feels over reals confirmed gottem.
Lol fox and friends acknowledged he watches their show non stop and directly spoken to the camera at him giving him answers to issues he’s currently dealing with and I believe he once tweeted at them for how much he likes them.
Fox and friends specifically.
That show could say trump should shit in the shower for domestic security and he’d tweet about it soon after.
"The Trump Fox and Friends Feedback Loop" ruclips.net/video/v1d7UvKWh6M/видео.html
I love the stock market argument because these guys always ignore how under Obama, the stock market was on record high.
The stock market being high barely even matters either when wages are still stagnant and more and more people are having trouble finding high paying jobs.
the stock market is also a marker of how the rich are doing. not really how the average american is doing
@Mega X This shitty argument is driving me crazy cause Germans have heard it all the time too (then again, probably most western countries have).
Politicians: Record tax income, record high stocks, record exports!
Germans: Housing costs explode and you've completely dismantled pensions and the wellfare programs in general while simultaneously creating a huge low income sector with the same amount of workload being distributed on more people, hence lower wages.
Politicians: BUT LOOK! The cool graph, it's at its peak!!!!!
This "debate" felt very reminicent of that, I just wish Destiny would have asked "Hey, do you understand what a 'trend' is?".
Damn x is woke
when the stock market was high under Obama, all of these cunts said stuff like "Dems only help the rich" and "it's just a bubble". But now under Trump it's like "GET OWNED LIBS"
Didn't the stock market just tank 1000 points in the past 2 days, erasing an entire year of gains?
45:22
"You said that you loved me earlier."
lol
Love everyone at first. Give them all fair treatment. Then when they open their mouths, they give you reasons to hate them.
Jesus. It's damn near impossible. I've tried to gently debate my family and friends who are conservatives and it's this brutal, man. The thought of ever talking to my beloved sweet aunt about Trump is so maddening I stopped eventually for my own sanity. Once, when I asked her why she liked Trump, she said "because he's not a politician." Ok, fair enough. But then, literally one minute after that I asked her what about AOC she hated. She said AOC "didn't belong in politics." When I asked her why, she no shit said, "because she's not a politician." I said, "but that's what you JUST SAID you LIKED about Trump!! How do you reconcile those two?" She had zero answer at all. I don't mean she gave a bad answer, mind you, but literally had no answer. At least my dad is a aingle issue voter for something hilarious. When I asked him why he voted republican, he said it was because he"fucking loved guns." I said, you know, Dad, democrats are allowed to buy guns too. He said, "but republican chicks look hotter shooting them." So, at least he has a clear answer, which is he votes with his dick. Kinda a based reason to vote single issue, actually
This kid spent 51 minutes saying absolutely NOTHING
There are usually a bunch of guybros that spell TRUMP with their chests at his rallies. Pretty sure he is the P.
Criticism doesn't care about feelings.
Constructive one does.
Wew, this debate really delayed my audio.
That's just how fast Steven speaks.
@@TheeJeLmAn rapgod Pog
I let my kid listen to it and it delayed his development.
A philosophical kung-fu movie. My rice cakes!!!
Three Arrows?
Wow, Destiny really got equivocated in this debate
nop he didnt, he's just misrespresenting everything destiny said, ontop of that the guy who he debates thinks fox news isn't conservative which displays how tarded he is.
@@IRPROFFESIONAL it's a joke my dude
@@IRPROFFESIONAL wooosh
Wow I can’t believe dave Rubin called into destinys show
“Liberals only speak from feelings”
“Proceeds to only present feelings as arguments”
Ouch. I’m embarrassed for this guy. he’s not the person to defend the Merritt and effectiveness of conservative policy points
n n oh yeah totally, that’s exactly my idea of rigorous policy discussion. I’m
Glad you were smart enough to get the hidden meaning in my comment. That’s exactly what I was thinking of 🙄 🥱😴
@n n Nice job being a dishonest fucking grub. Remember when the entire first chunk of this video was Destiny pushing back against emotion based arguments because the other dude here had no facts to back anything up? Destiny used emotion as a response to this. Point to any moment in this video where he argues with his feelings instead of facts before he snaps, you snake lol
*watches the first 20 seconds*
So I'm guessing Destiny became a Socialist in this debate?
3 more debates and he will be a comrade.
@David Ilea 3 more after that, he ascends to godhood and becomes political debate itself.
Edit: So basically 9 debates before he falsifies the Christian God.
@@awoofer
He becomes the Christian God.
3 more after becoming the Christian god just briefly after falsifying it he will become Satan...so basically 15 debates to go before he's uploading death metal videos
He will be watching LSR's videos by the end of the month. *fingers crossed*
Another wishy-washy right-leaning 'centrist' destroyed. Keep'em coming.
J B yup , keep em coming
please. destiny could destroy 99.9% of left wingers as well. including all of his fan base.
You should’ve just ended the conversation when he tried to argue that Fox News and rush limbaugh weren’t conservative.... like c’mon.
I think there more liberal but sometimes say conservative things I think cnn is conservative if anything
@@dudeman7738 Idk what type of concussion it takes to exclude fox news from being conservative but I hope you got better since.
The worst thing about ALL of these dabates is that these people never even consider that they've been wrong all this time. This guy literally had not a single fact or point throughout this 50 minute video, HE KIND OF ACKNOWLEDGED IT HIMSELF and yet he still believes he's right. I don't know if there is anything you can do to get to these people. I don't think so.
That's what opinions are, opinions aren't fact destiny can ramble all day how his opinion is better but most people do not change their opinions they've set for themselves.
Chris Davis opinions can be wrong though
@@dudeman7738 destiny rambles on all day about how the facts actually support his opinions - and if presented with verifiable facts that contradict his he is willing to change his position. Fuck off. Destiny isn't always right but he's more rational than literally any right winger that's ever spoken to him.
@@Ringoshiiro opinions can be immoral, but they are not wrong in the same sense as a fact is wrong
The stock market dips at times of economic uncertainty, like a presidential election for instance, like a 2016 presidential election, during the 2016 dip, where it dipped, because of the election.
Anarcho-Chillist it was the same after brexit. It dipped big at the time but after a few weeks it was fine
@@TrequartistaFM Um... no. The economy has dipped for a while and is still dipping. Trump became president and the Republicans allowed companies to bring in their overseas money at a lower tax. Like 5% instead of the 15% corporate tax. This was done to "create jobs" it didn't. It boosted the stock market as companies bought back their own stock.
lol, sure.
@@KnightofAntiquity the economy seems fine to me I have job I have home.
@@dudeman7738 Lol single individual's circumstances is not even an indicator of the economy. Your statement is no different than a billionaire copy and pasting your post. More than half of my clients are either out of a job or on the verge of losing their home because they do not make enough with their new job.
Destiny: Next time someone brings up how the economy is doing, ask them what they invest in aside from their 401k. It’s really annoying hearing someone talk about the economy when they clearly know nothing about it.
Uh... you guys need to fire your brokers.
wages are still not keeping pace with inflation
Mike Baker no need for brokers when I can just yolo puts on SNAP DAAAAAAWG
Assuming you have a job where you're lucky enough to have 401k. The stock went up when companies did stock buy backs because of Trump's corporate tax cut. Which is exactly what everyone said they would do. They didn't share that wealth with their employees by raising their wages.
@@metroidmatty20 I totally agree with the unfairness and inequality of the current system, but it is possible to hold that position and still understand that the rising tide has raised all boats. The inherent flaws in Capitalism are not situationally dependent to economic trends.
This is an important nuance that allows you to hold to the objective facts of a current economic situation without conceding its fundamental flaws.
This is important for debate against real opponents. It's not giving up the point in a debate because you are able to take the current economic trend off the board by conceding it and showing its irrelevance (like Destiny did.)
Dude, I love watching you dismantle republicans. Please keep it up.
getting angry at people and shouting isnt dismantling. Opinions are opinions. I like destiny for his personality and the games he plays. His debates are pointless. He only debates people who are blatantly wrong such as no bullshit or people who aren't really involved with politics and/or only pay minimal attention to politics.
Gavin McCoy yet there are millions of people just like no bullshit. It’s just fun to watch their whole world views getting destroyed right in front of them.
@@endlessannie8620 you have to be trolling, the first 30mins of this video was Destiny dismantling points in a very calm manner. He also debated, people like Sargon, Andy Warsky, JF, Lauren Southern, Nick Fuentes, roaming millennial, Jeff Holiday, alt hypothesis, a random dude who writes for the daily stormer, etc. So I don't see how he never debates people that are active in political discourse when they are the biggest debates on his channel. It's also pretty easy to make an argument that debating the average voter is also a good thing.
@avaguegamer I am not talking about this debate specifically. And I don't consider people like Lauren Southern are people who need to be debated as they are not open minded. When Lauren Southern was working for the rebel she was very biased and never really considered others opinions. His most popular debates are with jontron, nobullshit, a noname trump supporter, and brittany venti. The rest of these debates are all between the 100k - 200k view or lower which clearly shows that those aren't his most popular debates. His video with andy warski is less popular than his video with a noname incel lol.
destiny is a cryptojew
This guy like perfectly encapsulates that famous Asimov quote
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
This is why I love American you will be fought tooth and nail no matter how wrong they are it is American way to be stubborn or we'd basically be Canadian.
Holy shit yes, he's radicalizing before our very eyes. Soon comrade Destiny will call on the gamers to rise up against capitalism, and I'll certainly be the first to answer.
Capitalism.. the thing that created the games that you enjoy, yeah, that makes so much sense. I hope you were being ironic, because that was absolutely moronic otherwise.
@@kittredge5167 I don't agree with Commie values but commie countries like China do make games. Not trying to argue here.
They make games in response to a capitalistic entity encouraging that behavior.
Capitalism makes videogames (and all art to an extent) worse by perverting the creative visions of the creators with the profit motive. Under communism there would be no lootboxes, no day one dlc, and absolutely no fucking pay to win. The death of bullshit jobs ( strikemag.org/bullshit-jobs/ ) would mean people would have more time to follow their artistic passions, meaning we'd be seeing a lot more of those excellent indie passion projects that crop up. In addition there's no reason to think a society that democratically manages its resources (and that's what we're talking about here) wouldn't put at least as much funding towards the arts (including videogames) as we do now through market forces, as it's not like the desire for art would really change (actually, it might go up thanks to the aforementioned boost in free time), the main difference would be that the games wouldn't be designed with wringing as much cash from the audience as possible as the goal, and the people making them wouldn't be exploited and forced to work in brutal conditions (seriously, the game industry is *cruel* to its workers, look it up).
Also worth noting is that Tetris, one of the most popular games of all time, was made by a Soviet.
@Martin1911 dude have played toon blast this is the power of commie values
mother of god this is gonna get ugly.
And on the topic of "criticizing entire parties" doesn't the right side of politics do the exact same thing to the left as well??? I just found the topic behind this to be pointless. 🤷🏻♀️
FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS.
Can I get an Amen?
Lol donald trump just called the entire democratic party a mob and dangerous just a few days ago. Here was his quote. "You don't hand matches to an arsonist and you don't give power to an angry left-wing mob - and that's what they've become. The Democrats have become too extreme and too dangerous to govern. Republicans believe in the rule of law, not the rule of the mob"
Creepy Jigglypuff
😧 Oh. Oh my. That's... bad. Although the term "bad" in this case might be the biggest understatement of the century.
agreed. Never understood this entire party criticism. Both parties do it. Sometimes one party does it more than the other, but both parties do it pretty frequently. Pretty obnoxious to get called a moron by someone I have never even met because of my beliefs.
no. not all republicans are for trump. I am against trump as our president as a far right authoritarian conservative and republican. The libtard (not all liberals are democrats by the way so it isnt't targeting a party) meme is from people such as milo who are just retarded or uneducated people. Leftists have been attacking trump to the point of using incorrect conspiracy theories also so i dont get your point there. Both parties are a shit show. Just because Trump says something doesn't mean every single god damn conservative or republican agrees with it.
I love it when Conservatards try to debate and fail by trying to use every logical fallacy in the book.
Nice insult, a bit dated as "conservatards" is basically a juxtaposition of "libtard" which was their insult more than a few years ago, but no, I guess recycling is good.
@@kittredge5167 "a few years ago" Hello welcome to RUclips comments, whens the last time you clicked on a right wing video from one of the idiotic anti-sjwtubers?
I don't think I've ever seen or listened to a RUclips station that was specifically dedicated towards anti SJW rhetoric. The SJW movement is such an non issue for the right at this point.
Nice name btw, respect for the Chistopher's of the world.
@@kittredge5167 Sargon, Steven Crowder, NoBullshit, Roaming Millenial, Armoured Skpetic, Some Black Guy, etc. Half of those comments are usually something about "libtard sjws" on any given video.
Also thank you lol
@Martin1911 "Why do you call out my side? Do you hate the fact that I like acting like a victim all the time feeling scared of green haired women? Of course you hate them because you're intolerant! You can't stand my sides hypocrisy, exaggerations, lack of critical thinking skills and victim complex. How dare you criticize my side, now I shall try and act like a victim by pretending to think that you simply don't like us because we disagree, unlike my side who completely disagrees and dismisses anything the people I hate with a passion say. You should be more tolerant! " - You and every retarded right winger with a victim complex.
The first clip of Destiny railing on this guy is brilliant.
2021:
It’s now crystal clear that being a conservative/ Republican is indefensible. Not even debatable at this point.
Destiny: "I just need ONE policy point that you think he's done good"
Liberal (fiscal conservative): Well, I like a lot of things that he's done.
Destiny: *falls*
There's just so many things I can't pick 1! My brain is in recovery mode from taking in too many high level ideas
LeCentrism. is this guy a troll? The 15yr old trump supporter he debated a couple years back was able to hold his position better and actually would concede points when proven wrong. This guy seems like he's employing the Sargon tactic, no matter how stupid or contradictory your point is he won't concede.
Well... he did reach out to Destiny via Instagram...
i hope that 15 year old kid comes on again at some point, he was so much less fucking retarded than these people
@@mikebaker2436 true
@@tarantularose yeah he seemed like he had a lot of comrade potential, but like most kids, his political ideology probably came from his parents and I'm pretty sure he even said in the debate that his dad was a trump supporter. I would like to see him on again just to see if he changed his views or doubled down now that we are almost 2yrs into the presidency.
This guy isn't a "centrist". He's a MAGAtard who's too ashamed to wear the hat.
I've lost complete faith in humanity from interacting with these people and now I sympathize with socialism more than ever. I get it Destiny.
This guy thinks the stock market goes straight up or straight down. Noob
This is a bad case of someone who's been Republican his whole entire life, never really understood why, and when challenged on republican positions can't give specifics and can't name those positions but somehow thinks Republicans are good????
LIKE WTF DUDE!
“Yeah you know I like Trump. He’s the lesser of two evils even though I can’t name one thing he’s done but he’s good. I like alot of whatever he’s done!”
38:36
Classic abusive boyfriend tactic. 'If only YOU were more willing to bend/be nicer, WE'd be in a better relationship'. So much of republican retoric is some form of clearly identifiable scammers tactic.
If you in abusive relationship you probably like it I what I always say.
Destiny will be a tankie by the year´s end. Mark my words.
timcritt really a communist quite the assumption
Socialist? Likely. Communist DLC won’t come til 2019.
I lean strongly towards libsoc and anarcho-syndicalism, but holy shit listening to some of the people Destiny talks to makes me sympathize with the tankies... This guy wasn’t so bad, he just seems extremely uneducated, or like he’s not read much, but I really hope he’s pretty young, and that he’ll grow.. Now, dudes like some of the actual alt-right/ethnostate types, as much as I genuinely want them to be saved from their ideology and wake up, I’m still fine with them getting beaten to a bloody pulp if they publicly organize at their “free speech” rallies..
@@nikolademitri731 if we had an anarchist society we would have actual education, not propaganda
If all goes to plan, he'll be an anarkiddie by 2019, Tankie by 2020
Imagine living in such a comfy little privilege bubble that you unironically think that discourse and politics is divisive because there is no way for a government to come to any kind of consensus on what is the right thing to do. The repeal the ACA was the ruling of a consensus.
No one is really sure what to do not even the government unfortunately.
Destiny you're a hero for enduring this guy. I don't know how you go through this shit lmao. These shitheads push me so far to the left as well.
"Fox News is republican, not conservative" 😁🔫
This stream was gold
There is a Pee joke here somewhere... pretend I found it.
I'm already 5 minutes and I want to throw my phone. This dude is trying way too hard to appear opening minded. Centrism is a mental disorder.
You're sounding like them. Destiny is closer to centrist than people like Sargon are. You're right about the open minded thing though
He's not a centrist. He's a right-wing MAGAtard that's afraid to openly label himself as such, so he goes with the "centrist" label.
I wouldn't say Centrism is a md but for me the word means nothing since so many conservatives use it as a veil to disguise their actual positions.
im a true centrist...this new centrism is just rebranded right wing useful idiot shit
It's not new, either. Large numbers of Republicans started publicly labeling themselves as "independents" after George W Bush ruined his party's credibility 14 years ago. The GOP goes in cycles like this. Around 80 years ago, it was widely believed that there would never be another Republican president, because they were doing the same oligarchic Gilded Age shit back then that they're doing now; Eisenhower came along, as a moderate, and saved their asses. Then Nixon ruined their credibility again; then Reagan resuscitated it; then Bush ruined it again. And yet, somehow, people keep forgetting.
"So you're saying tariffs are bad for the economy"
"Yes"
"But the economy is doing great"
It's like the "water, from the toilet?" scene in the White House in Idiocracy
I always love returning to these old conversations, because they're a staunch reminder of how absolutely awful 4 years under Donald Trump was, and how this guy is representative of the average American voter in this country. Misinformed, egotistical, ignorant, selfish, and downright stupid.
Can we just raise the voting age to 25 now? Honestly, no 18-year-old should be voting in elections at this point.
Most Republican dum.bfuck voters are 40+ anyways and still that stupi.d.
You really think that the average intelligence of a Trump voter rises with age?
No matter how low you set the voting age, even a person with a peanut butter sandwich as a brain would make a better decision on who to vote for.
Honestly, I'd set the voting age to 10 or so.
Theres plenty of stupid people who voted for Hillary buddy, just because someone voted for trump doesnt mean they agree with everything he does.
@@jakesimmonds5043 But they can't defend any of it. At least not honestly.
20 mins in and this guy havent said anything. He just talks and makes sounds but absolutely nothing comes out.
Holy shit we're feasting on content these days bois.
Notification squad assemble
Red Five, reporting in.
Same, I've never had to use notifications, my sub box has never had the issues I hear about other people having.
insert many saluting and waving hello emojis here
The silent pause at 29:35 is icing on the argumentative cake!
This guy is a literal NPC
I think I can safely say Destiny has changed his views on the centrist matter now. Basically arguing this dudes side in 2022, The Arc!
"Destiny Debates" is back?
So from what I heard... there's things I've heard people say... and I haven't looked up any studies nor fully researched it, but Destiny stopped doing debates and made a video about it.
I think he said he just needs to rethink how he does them with big people (bc their fans literally harrass him), not doing away with them all together. Also this is just a viewer debate
he said he really couldnt find people to debate either, cause twitter was how he found people to debate. he found this person on instagram
You decided to have a conversation with Destiny without having any facts to support your stance....bruh
Anyone else getting recommended 2+ year debates? Pretty cool to catch up
Yo lol
destiny vs anthony brian (both debates)
The truth doesn't lean right or left. 💁♀️
"I'm literally going to become a full on Commie, in two weeks I swear,"
He did not.
That intro though 10/10
Destiny got globally warmed in this debate
I love Destiny so much:
0:03 “I hate you”
17:05 “I love you”
A conversation like this one would be enough to make me 180 too.
Cat T-C e
When Destiny tells him he hate him you can hear the guy respond in a low toned "I thought you loved me"
This is the first debate that popped up for me one day I thought Destiny was a crazy mad man after hearing the first few seconds.
"the vast majority of Republicans aren't that ignorant" ok dude
they're only ignorant to the irrelevant opinions and ideologies of rabid leftist commuinsts like you and destiny.
damn dude you fuckin got me real good. congrats
just kidding you suck
@@TheDickbeard roaster
The vast majority of both republicans and democrats are that ignorant
The fact that people are so disconnected.. a good chunk of the countries population thinks this way..the amount of cognitive dissonance is absolutely incredible... 😭
Summary and Analogy of dan's logic (or lack thereof):
39:22-43:56
Your welcome.
I just watched this today holy shit
Can you create podcast of your debates? I dont want youtube subscription just to listen to this while locking screen.
I still can’t believe this conversation went past the “all time high” part. Like, I can’t tell if he was purposefully being stupid or he just was so smooth brained he couldn’t put it together.
"I understand how graphs work" lmao
"i'm fiscally conservative" is code for "i'm for denying poor people benefits"
Poor people ain't ever done nothing for me
Dude man Speak for yourself, I grew up in a low income neighbourhood, the community and people around me helped raise me and keep me fed, rich people wouldn’t even look in our direction.
@@dudeman7738 Poor people are the people who work retail, labour, public services and also the people who make you your burgers, buddy.
I love how this guy is like don't generalize Republicans and then goes on to prove every generalization correct.
It’s funny and ironic how he’s defending the MINORITY of republicans as a republican. Asks to stop generalizing the entire Republican Party with those who are ignorant and simply neglect facts as hoaxes but then again those are the ones highest in power who are elected to REPRESENT the republican platform.
Watchin Destiny's debate vids at 2x speed is an Xtreme sport
45:15 is where it all starts
destiny says that the ford focus active and the mustang are the only two cars ford will sell because of tariffs, he is wrong about this. the active is also getting hashed because of tariffs. tariffs are garbage I dont understand what this guy is trying to argue.
Audio is out of sync at times
___Republican Party
___Democratic Party
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identity politics doesnt explain anything about any issue, it is just a way to shut down any critical thinking.
5:05 This is exactly something mentioned by Innuendo Studios' "Alt-Right playbook" series. So many conservative strategies involve holding nuance to a microscope to the point of defeating any point of debating the topic to begin with. The fields that are made are binary for sides in an argument, but nuanced in defense of their position.
hes going further left each shroom trip
Only insane people lean left. Once you realise the nature of men and that we arent angels you realise the only thing that will work is an absolute monarchy.
@Ramses77 going left or right are for complete retards any logical person with try to find something in the middle.
This is the most frustrated I think I've seen from Destiny in a while.
because he's a cryptojew who found out why his jewish supremacy utopia is being dismantled. republicans.
I would be too if my country got ran by idiots that are called heroes by the sheep who follow them.
For me that "if" is an "is".
@@BeethovenIsGrumpyCat that isn't grammatically correct and I'd vote anybody to keep the god damn sjws from takeing away my freedom of speech
Chris Davis where is the problem in grammar? Mind explaining?
The whole part with him not believing that Donald Trump watches Fox News at night and said "but Hillary" I literally started slamming my clenched fist on the side of my index finger into my forehead over and over again. Holy shit, I would kill myself at this conversation.
Ouch that kid got his ass wooped. Got to give him credit for even coming on the call. But if we are being honest last 15 probably blew his mind and he didn't want to admit it. Destiny lost his mind tho lmao
Just do it already, Destiny. Your takes against Communism are literally the most braindead, emotional, irrational arguments, anyways, so you've got nothing to lose.
Maybe Democracy really isn't a good idea
Cody Edwards I’ve thought this for a very long time lol