Due to unforeseen circumstances, I couldn't get the video uploaded on the 18th (18-3-2024). The challenge this time was to make a substantial animation in 10 days - and if not for the delay, 10 days was just about feasible!
It reminds me of the trench engines, Americanized panniers built during the First World War. A couple ended up on industrial railroads on both sides of the pond afterwards.
Panniers with lights and bells are something I never knew I wanted, but now I do. If any one UK-built locomotive from that era ended up being exported to the US, it'd probably be one of them, as a private-use switcher for an industry not quite big enough to need a Baldwin saddle tank but big enough to justify a switcher of some sort. Unfortunately it never actually happened, but there were so many panniers built that the odds were in their favor.
Interestingly enough the Pannier design did end up crossing the pond during World War 1, Baldwin, Alco, and Davenport made Americanized narrow gauge panniers originally for military use that were later converted to industrial applications. It's a funky looking hybrid engine, a pannier tank with pony trucks, outside cylinders, sometimes bells, and top mounted lights.
@@tophatgaming1873 Yup, his origin was historically accurate too. After the war many of the trench engines in Britain ended up working narrow gauge slate mine railways, the ones in France continued their military service through World War 2, and a handful that stayed in the US were used in farms and road construction.
Great animation! With these Pannier tanks in this story setting is realistic, as these were sold off for further use in other industries and companies after their service life in BR.
There was a tourist railroad in Oklahoma I think, and they had a 0-6-0 tank engine from a steel works from Britain and 3 BR coaches. They had it modified to meet USA railroad standards
That was a great video! I'm quite impressed with how you got the panniers to have knuckle couplings, & I saw some rolling stock that haven't been seen on SFM before: mainly the gondola wagons and the hopper wagons. How you imported them, I'll never know. But I applaud you once again sir!
The Gondola and covered hopper are assets from TF2Maps. Much like with your own made assets, they are compatible with SFM's \models and \materials maps: tf2maps.net/downloads/gondola-prop.14046/ tf2maps.net/downloads/covered-hopper-car.7134/
Panniers look pretty good in red. It's interesting how TF2's artstyle helps make the different eras and nations of rolling stock work together without looking out of place.
Easiest answer: Zephirith Mann brought them over to the US, and kept a fleet of them that his Twin sons inherited. Remember, his sons were rich enough to waste money to move an Alamo to the top of a desert mesa just to have a private talk... And Zephirith was WAY Richer than his sons were, both in fortune, and in wits. Not too far fetched to believe Zephirith brought over some British Locomotives because he liked having them.
This has got to be my favourite SFM Trains episode, I just love videos like this where it seems all hope is lost but in a last minute situation and idea that no one thinks will work, work! 11/10
Not really though because most of them had less tractive effort compared to diesel locos with the same size. Also maintenance would be kind of a problem too. But i get your point. They're beautiful and pretty satisfying to watch them chug along the tracks
This is why we keep steam engines on Daisy's lunches aren't physically able to run cuz it's too hot and the engine can't even start boom steam engines there's a solution they could start up but they take 2 hours to steam up if they're like tank engines but at least they can move under their own power unlike the Diesels
Hope to see a K2 express engine they get no love the only time I heard of K2 was from unlucky tug and learned how Edward’s bases was ment to be a K2 class
All of the maps are from the SFM workshop on Steam, with exception of the station map, which comes from SFMlab. The Gondola and covered hopper are assets from TF2Maps: tf2maps.net/downloads/gondola-prop.14046/ tf2maps.net/downloads/covered-hopper-car.7134/
It is the Class 37 included in the TF2 London asset pack: london.tf2maps.net/ Like the wagons, there are props for use in hammer, but they use the same \materials and \models format that SFM uses.
I get it takes time to animate but there aren't as many SFMs any more back in 2017 content creators would pump this stuff out and every one was quality stuff (not to say that this one isn't nice it's really good) it's just there's not alot of it anymore fore some reason
As a lifelong Thomas and Friends fan, I couldn’t help but notice the T&F vibes from all the locomotives and rolling stock. Those Class 37 and Class 08 diesel-electric trains bring back memories when I watched the 1980s era T&F episodes. As a full grown adult with some technical knowledge, however, I’m a little surprised those diesel engines couldn’t start in the heat - diesel engines usually function better in warmer temperatures. Diesel fuel has a higher flash point than petrol; the cold makes it difficult for diesel to ignite. Nonetheless, this goes to show the simplicity and robustness steam locomotives, especially the ability to operate in any weather, even though they are much higher maintenance and more dangerous - it requires skill to maintain a balance between water and heat to create the perfect amount of steam safely and consistently.
Simply, for story adaptation look at “long live the iron horse” by master of the lemons trust me I just watched it and it’s gotta be one of the greatest pieces of Thomas media out there
So these guys use american coaches, British steam locomotives, an American Santa Fe, A Class 37 using BR.2 coaches... how...? oh and a Class 08 Shunter that aparently can't cold start. And then now I see a fucking A1 Peppercorn...? Also steam locomotives wouldn't pull a consist in reverse during standard operations due to the lack of proper viewing ports in the cab, only doing so when things are dire and with a break van/control wagon at the back for controlling the locomotive from there. as well as the fact that if Red Baron is a dedicated push-pull locomotive, it is missing the rear lamp needed to say "hey, this is the back of the consist"
You seem to have misidentified the Santa Fe type (which is a 2-10-2 type, not the 4-8-0 as seen in the video) and the Peppercorn A1 (the one in the video is a Gresley A3). Furthermore I must admit I don't know where you got the idea from that steam locos don't haul trains backwards. Here is just a few images where both big and small steam locos are doing just that: www.flickr.com/photos/david_christie/9310357069 www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwrchg2807.htm www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/photographs/item/1998-43564 photos.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/LNER-and-BRE-and-BRNE/LNER-post-grouping-locomotives/LNER-tank-locomotives/i-Vthcb7Q/1/hQM7Z8dHL5k2rkhb6n99ggmrM9skDtQbNFx9Dq6k/M/E_BR_68912-M.jpg
"Nonsense!" scoffed Duck "We show you for what frauds you are! We bring in our trains on just a cylinder alone, all you do is sit there and wail for a Fitter!"
@ShadowtheTankEngine Let me then repeat @pm1225p 's answer: No I won't. If you are not emotionally mature enough to either appreciate train content not tapping into your Thomas-wired brain, nor able to react civilly when someone points out it is pretty obvious I won't add faces to the trains, you are not my target audience.
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Due to unforeseen circumstances, I couldn't get the video uploaded on the 18th (18-3-2024).
The challenge this time was to make a substantial animation in 10 days - and if not for the delay, 10 days was just about feasible!
Scot. This is amazing.
Talking about your animation AND your voice acting!
Scot I noticed that the sound effects were from train simulator classic
“American-compliant GWR pannier tank doesn’t exist, it cannot hurt you.”
American-compliant GWR pannier tank:
It reminds me of the trench engines, Americanized panniers built during the First World War. A couple ended up on industrial railroads on both sides of the pond afterwards.
“Where’s your cow catchers?”
"There are two ways of doing things, the Great Western way, and the wrong way!"
@@rubiks_20"But I don't catch cows!" Said Red Iron
Glad to see it’s a happy ending for the panniers. Another masterpiece
1:11 Engineer using scout as a saw horse? For some reason, it reminds me of that moment from Wallace and Gromit A Grand Day Out.
That was intentional.
1:05 gotta appreciate a good Wallace and Gromit Reference ;p
I just noticed and, OH THATS GOOD
Panniers with lights and bells are something I never knew I wanted, but now I do. If any one UK-built locomotive from that era ended up being exported to the US, it'd probably be one of them, as a private-use switcher for an industry not quite big enough to need a Baldwin saddle tank but big enough to justify a switcher of some sort. Unfortunately it never actually happened, but there were so many panniers built that the odds were in their favor.
Interestingly enough the Pannier design did end up crossing the pond during World War 1, Baldwin, Alco, and Davenport made Americanized narrow gauge panniers originally for military use that were later converted to industrial applications. It's a funky looking hybrid engine, a pannier tank with pony trucks, outside cylinders, sometimes bells, and top mounted lights.
@@asteroidrules what's the name for those?
@@tophatgaming1873 Class 10 trench locomotives. Bachmann makes a pretty nice model of them.
@@asteroidrules wait a second that's the basis for stanley, if you've ever read the railway series
@@tophatgaming1873 Yup, his origin was historically accurate too. After the war many of the trench engines in Britain ended up working narrow gauge slate mine railways, the ones in France continued their military service through World War 2, and a handful that stayed in the US were used in farms and road construction.
Great animation!
With these Pannier tanks in this story setting is realistic, as these were sold off for further use in other industries and companies after their service life in BR.
The British Steamers feel so out of place, and yet I could still see this happening.
There was a tourist railroad in Oklahoma I think, and they had a 0-6-0 tank engine from a steel works from Britain and 3 BR coaches. They had it modified to meet USA railroad standards
@@RibbonRailProfuctions i think you mean Oklahoma Gas and Electric 123
Tf2 and trains, a winning combination!
Panniers in red > panniers in green
That was a great video! I'm quite impressed with how you got the panniers to have knuckle couplings, & I saw some rolling stock that haven't been seen on SFM before: mainly the gondola wagons and the hopper wagons. How you imported them, I'll never know. But I applaud you once again sir!
The Gondola and covered hopper are assets from TF2Maps. Much like with your own made assets, they are compatible with SFM's \models and \materials maps:
tf2maps.net/downloads/gondola-prop.14046/
tf2maps.net/downloads/covered-hopper-car.7134/
I really love the American-compliant Panniers they look like something you would see in a steel mill
Panniers look pretty good in red. It's interesting how TF2's artstyle helps make the different eras and nations of rolling stock work together without looking out of place.
Never ask a woman about her age
Never ask a man about his salary
Never ask about how red iron got these British locomotives in America
Easiest answer: Zephirith Mann brought them over to the US, and kept a fleet of them that his Twin sons inherited.
Remember, his sons were rich enough to waste money to move an Alamo to the top of a desert mesa just to have a private talk... And Zephirith was WAY Richer than his sons were, both in fortune, and in wits.
Not too far fetched to believe Zephirith brought over some British Locomotives because he liked having them.
I really hope we get to see more of the line to the steel mill. It looks very nice
A lotless desert.
one of the best things ive seen all year continue the good work
This has got to be my favourite SFM Trains episode, I just love videos like this where it seems all hope is lost but in a last minute situation and idea that no one thinks will work, work! 11/10
and that is why steam is better than diesel
I fully agree with you.
Not really though because most of them had less tractive effort compared to diesel locos with the same size. Also maintenance would be kind of a problem too.
But i get your point. They're beautiful and pretty satisfying to watch them chug along the tracks
Steam is Just not profitable maintenance wise, only 2-4 steamers can be more powerful than diesels and that's pretty much it
God I love that Pannier model, Americanized or not it looks amazing in red!
Train Autism meets Team Fortress Brain rot, finally some good food
Wow, I really like your design of the americanized Steam Engines
I would pay 12 billion sudrian dollars to see Duck as one of those American styled Pannier Crane Tanks
Oh man, AND WEST OF LOATHING MUSIC?? THIS PLACE HAS IT ALL!!
Your animations and world building has improved so much over the years.
This is why we keep steam engines on Daisy's lunches aren't physically able to run cuz it's too hot and the engine can't even start boom steam engines there's a solution they could start up but they take 2 hours to steam up if they're like tank engines but at least they can move under their own power unlike the Diesels
Nice work on the video I really like it
New SFM video
YAY!!!
1:06 Wallace and Gromit reference.
The amount of work that must've gone into this...
Well It is good they had something on hand for when the diesels had issues with their engines
“Old. Not obsolete.”
-Arnold Schwarzenegger
It’s odd seeing LNER Atlantic engines work along side GWR pannier tanks
Love the American styled GWR pannier tanks
More train stuff.
Hell yeah 🔥
Nice looking pannier tanks
How do I perfectly align the train with the tracks in SFM?
Am I worthy of your SFM TRAINS playlist
Bout time that album is used.
I LOVE THIS
Hope to see a K2 express engine they get no love the only time I heard of K2 was from unlucky tug and learned how Edward’s bases was ment to be a K2 class
That shows that steam engines are still reliable 💪
charming!
I love the concept of American LONDON TRANSPORT 57XX
Who say this Wallace and Gromit reference in this shot 1:05
i never knew i wanted american panniers in my life and yet here we are
I've watched this video 5 times already
A very productive day for Red team ^^
Amazing job Scott! Sorry for asking but how did you get those hoppers, gondolas, and those maps?
All of the maps are from the SFM workshop on Steam, with exception of the station map, which comes from SFMlab. The Gondola and covered hopper are assets from TF2Maps:
tf2maps.net/downloads/gondola-prop.14046/
tf2maps.net/downloads/covered-hopper-car.7134/
Sorry if I’m asking for too much but we’re u get that diesel from 1:52
It is the Class 37 included in the TF2 London asset pack: london.tf2maps.net/
Like the wagons, there are props for use in hammer, but they use the same \materials and \models format that SFM uses.
Honestly wish this was a gmod map it would be fun to use the cbh train models
That's one in the tail lamp for old diesel
Serves him right for saying I'm slow!
@@Combes_ and out of date too.
disgraceful...
Panniers in team fortress 😲
Also they actually look quite nice with the American modifications
These Coaches the 5700 Tank is Pulling are Strasburg Coaches
I love trains
West of Loathing song is fire
4:55
😮😊👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏amazing also did you lump in a Wallace and Gromit reference
Awesome, where did you pick up your train knowledge?
Who’s the 79 K other people that won’t give this man a 100 K
Hay Flying Scott. Can you make a Those Great Locomotive videos on The Great Eastern Railway Claude Hamilton's please.
When will they have some new steam engines to help them at the steel mill
THIS THE REAL POWER OF STEAM WE ARE THE HERO OF STEAM POWER
I want to tell you something Scott you forgot to add an American steam whistle
I get it takes time to animate but there aren't as many SFMs any more back in 2017 content creators would pump this stuff out and every one was quality stuff (not to say that this one isn't nice it's really good) it's just there's not alot of it anymore fore some reason
Noticed the davenport (red diesel switcher) has animated wheels, where can I find it?
TF2Maps! Meant to be used in Hammer, but for SFM it works just as well: tf2maps.net/downloads/animated-diesel-switcher-locomotive.8729/
@@FlyingScott Thanks!
I MIDLAND GRATE NORTHERN AND SOUTH COAST RAILWAY. would love to buy your railway and secure your future
can we have more sfm train animations its pretty cool
As a lifelong Thomas and Friends fan, I couldn’t help but notice the T&F vibes from all the locomotives and rolling stock. Those Class 37 and Class 08 diesel-electric trains bring back memories when I watched the 1980s era T&F episodes. As a full grown adult with some technical knowledge, however, I’m a little surprised those diesel engines couldn’t start in the heat - diesel engines usually function better in warmer temperatures. Diesel fuel has a higher flash point than petrol; the cold makes it difficult for diesel to ignite. Nonetheless, this goes to show the simplicity and robustness steam locomotives, especially the ability to operate in any weather, even though they are much higher maintenance and more dangerous - it requires skill to maintain a balance between water and heat to create the perfect amount of steam safely and consistently.
You and me both, pal.
Simply, for story adaptation look at “long live the iron horse” by master of the lemons trust me I just watched it and it’s gotta be one of the greatest pieces of Thomas media out there
I would rather eat both my Bachmann Class 40s than adapt a Thomas story.
@@FlyingScott oh ok. . .
TF2 SFM about trains??? 👀
What is name of game 😢
Its not a game its sfm (source filmaker) its on steam
@@greatwestern57 oh it feels like game 🤡
You voiced that demo didn't you!
A pretty good video!
Although the title in my opinion, dosnt really make sence
ik no one cares but I made it 1.5k likes
(What I really wanted to say is I love the vibe of this)
So these guys use american coaches, British steam locomotives, an American Santa Fe, A Class 37 using BR.2 coaches... how...? oh and a Class 08 Shunter that aparently can't cold start. And then now I see a fucking A1 Peppercorn...? Also steam locomotives wouldn't pull a consist in reverse during standard operations due to the lack of proper viewing ports in the cab, only doing so when things are dire and with a break van/control wagon at the back for controlling the locomotive from there. as well as the fact that if Red Baron is a dedicated push-pull locomotive, it is missing the rear lamp needed to say "hey, this is the back of the consist"
Other than these inconsistencies... I LOVE this! nice to see something special and unique made in SFM
You seem to have misidentified the Santa Fe type (which is a 2-10-2 type, not the 4-8-0 as seen in the video) and the Peppercorn A1 (the one in the video is a Gresley A3). Furthermore I must admit I don't know where you got the idea from that steam locos don't haul trains backwards.
Here is just a few images where both big and small steam locos are doing just that:
www.flickr.com/photos/david_christie/9310357069
www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwrchg2807.htm
www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/photographs/item/1998-43564
photos.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/LNER-and-BRE-and-BRNE/LNER-post-grouping-locomotives/LNER-tank-locomotives/i-Vthcb7Q/1/hQM7Z8dHL5k2rkhb6n99ggmrM9skDtQbNFx9Dq6k/M/E_BR_68912-M.jpg
Fem Engie!!
are those panniers publicly available?
They very much are! steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3116075328
@@FlyingScott I'd insert a quote from duck, but I can't find one, oh well
@tophatgaming1873 Good thing you didn't.
DV ahh logistics 💀
Looks very tf2
I’m scared
Очень жду совместного производства со студиями русского дубляжа
"Nonsense!" scoffed Duck "We show you for what frauds you are! We bring in our trains on just a cylinder alone, all you do is sit there and wail for a Fitter!"
Panniers, with knuckle couplings. Hmmmmmmm. That’s heresy.
Could you animate Red Iron with a face next time please?
No he wont
@@pm1225p NOBODY FUCKING ASKED YOU, PM WHOEVER THE FUCK YOU ARE!!
@ShadowtheTankEngine Let me then repeat @pm1225p 's answer: No I won't.
If you are not emotionally mature enough to either appreciate train content not tapping into your Thomas-wired brain, nor able to react civilly when someone points out it is pretty obvious I won't add faces to the trains, you are not my target audience.
😐
not everything has to have a Thomas face on people can make content as they wish shadowthetankengine u need to take no as a answer