@AveryMacQuarrie-km8or I feel like there are a lot of people who would rather just run a server with their friends. I'm curious as to how they plan on running their official servers
I feel like they should of gone more in a valheim route and avoided server based play entirely. Maybe with some type of matchmaking arena for people to do pvp if they want.
@@NicromeShooter I kind of agree. Official online servers took me by surprise in the video I made covering their FAQ. 32 player cap seems small and official online servers is a risky move even with larger server caps. Rust and ark official servers for example
Yeah very small hard to do much with. Not to mention people are gonna be practilly unable to play on the same server whenever they want for awhile and arks case I think the only reason people put up with that type of gameplay was because of it really being the only game to tame dinosaurs in such an interactive manner. I even got grappled by it and just wished they made an open world singleplayer game with similar features and a story.@@FringePatriotGaming As why Atlas failed so hard cause it's gimmick didn't work at all for server based play.
Gonna be honest when I first saw this game I thought it was just a meme and was gonna be a flop but the more I hear about it the I'm actually invested in playing it. Will definitely have to try it out
I think there is a good chance this turns into a banger. Nda was lifted two days ago for people in pocketpairs creator program. I was too lazy to even apply but have been avoiding those videos so I still don't know exactly what the game looks or plays like but I hopefully they nailed it. 2 days till public launch
Honestly talking about wars between guilds and clans has me excited, I'm probably just going to be playing on offline servers with friends but I'll be looking forward to the first videos of full on brawls large groups of players.
it is going to be interesting to see how the official servers play out that is for sure, especially when pvp launches. pvp not being there at launch almost adds anticipation to the battles that are coming
Definitely going with non official server hosted by me, you should be able to host that on your own pc setting your own rules and choosing which mods to run with your friends. Exactly how it's meant to be played.
Yeah up to 3 of your friends you can invite each other between each of your servers. From what I've heard the "offline" server you host has difficulty sliders. You can still invite up to 3 people to that server and "turn it online"
@@FringePatriotGaming you just gotta keep your xbox running as the host ..so a bit of a pain trying to play with a few friends unless the host is an absolute homie and stays logged in infinitely cause when the host logs out everybody gets the boot..would be great if you could have a server between 2 to 5 people that could just log in to a shared custom world whenever they please, as if everbody is the "host"
@DjDoxastic yeah you could host one via a third party but that's on pc. Eventually you should be able to host a server via a third party but it would cost. I think it's like 8 bucks a month for a 4 person server to be hosted
If they had like 100 server player count this game would be considered an mmo and it feels like one. I hope they increase the server cap down the road.
My server last night was not spawning wild pals. Then all the servers seemed to shut down idk if they could handle 100 people in a server. Also idk why wild pals weren't spawning in mine
They've been having the same issues with the new Ark, honestly just might be nitrados horrible servers, hopefully they open it up to other server hosts
Do the offline servers have peer to peer coop with friends? I thought the devs said that 1-4 coop was just direct invite and then 4-32 required either playing on an official server or renting your own private server, if I just wanted to play coop with 1-2 friends am I going to be forced into the crowded dedicated ones?
Yes you can co op with up to 3 other people, 4 including yourself on your server and their servers I believe via invite. I should have mentioned those but wasn't comparing that to anything so I didn't but you are right you can play with some friends via invite
It does NOT allow offline play. I just bought the game about 2 hours ago, and unless I keep the Xbox connected. It closes the game out, and won't allow any play.
I've heard several Xbox users with this problem I'm assuming it's a bug because I can play offline using steam. I'll let you know if anything about that being a bug comes out
@jamesgolden7317 seems a lot of Xbox users are experiencing this I'm assuming it's a bug. Someone said they are playing on Xbox offline by skipping the error messages. Like I'm assuming hitting the b button on them but I don't know exactly what you or thy are looking at. He said he was on Xbox offline by doing that though lemme know if you happen to get it
@FringePatriotGaming I click B after the error pops up, and it still won't let it start. I was also told that if I got the $1 game pass thing. It'll allow me to set my game to offline, and it'll play. It didn't work so far.
Im definitely just playing private with two of my friends cause i rather have less people that i enjoy playing with then more who might ruin my experience
Hosted servers are really only for communities/guilds/friends, otherwise you should really just play official servers or on your own. Otherwise what really is the point.
Good points all around. Would be interesting to see some of those "Civilzation-experiments" done in Palworld if possible one day. They're a riot to watch in Minecraft.
I agree not playing on a server makes the game boring. I love the game so far and it has been fun playing with family, but they have already stopped playing and now I'm alone and it just feels empty. I do love the grind and solo it was fun for a few hours, but then I got to around level 30 and I explored the whole map, saw most of the pals around, killed bosses, and made my base to craft everything pretty efficiently... but you miss multiplayer aspects these survival games need. That sense of sharing time spent on your base, or your pals. And without other players, the world definitely feels empty.
for me I like the server been alive with lots of ppl running around and exploring of course the first 2 weeks will be flooded with lots of toxic players but after that it'll be an awesome game to chill and talk to others and make few new friends can't depends on my irl friends on this game XD
I play on a hosted server... its awful. The ping is stuck at 270-240. You can't use the grapple hook. You can't drop from a flying mount and pull your parachute. Climbing is iffy because the lag might throw you back over the edge.
Are you in NA connecting to China servers or something why is the ping stuck that high. Also by hosted do you mean hosted by someone you know or do you mean one of the official servers
I'm confused at how things like hunting alpha pals would work with large servers or multi-player. I would think there would be a massive issue with griefing and frustration with the respawn timers, especially if the game crashing resets the timer to where some alpha pals can't respawn!
Yeah if someone or a group of people are farming the alphas it can be hard to land one. That's not the main problem though. Official servers are dead until there's an anti cheat
My friend is hosting the server I'm playing on. The bugs in the game and lack of optimization causes a lot of crashes. There's also problems with how the game handles what happens when other people are playing when you're not on. I always come back to my pals all depressed and weakened since the AI bugs out when you're not there.
On online or official servers the server is constantly running and official servers have the difficulty cranked a bit. From what I understand when you log off your pals keep working and if they don't have everything they need to stay happy they will all get sick. Even on my offline server if I have everything my pals need and I run em while I afk for awhile they all get sick. I think they over do it on official servers because of the rule set. Idk about the one you are playing on because it's being hosted the rules might be easier or even harder idk
@@FringePatriotGaming Our server settings are pretty close to solo normal rates. Pals will also be moved above your palbox and get stuck when you're not logged in but other people are, so they can't reach food boxes. Self sustainable bases will not work properly if youre not logged on. I've noticed this happen after the server crashes and gets restarted. P2P 4 player is probably a lot less frustrating and more worth it for most people unless you're playing with a large group at least for now
These kind of companies confuse me so much - they've had such incredibles success but they can't hire some consultants who are like top of the line AI coders to fix these issues?
Im excited it reminds me of ark while everyone was in a tribe I was a caveman running around pumped with mele, health, and speed juts imagine flying around five bombing people
you can't play offline on Xbox i tired starting it offline and just says connect to internet and i brought the game and it does not work offline i want to play it offline but it won't let me
Hopefully its just a issue that can be fixed because if your wifi were to go down fora bit you can still play it normally hopefully it gets fixed with an update would like to be play instead of going online every single time offline would be nice i mean it can be played offline as i heard it can but nope that is not working @@MySplatterhouse
If you are on Xbox people are having a hard time booting offline. I'm assuming it's a bug but not 100% sure. On pc I've run it offline through steam though
seems a lot of Xbox users are experiencing this I'm assuming it's a bug. Someone said they are playing on Xbox offline by skipping the error messages. Like I'm assuming hitting the b button on them but I don't know exactly what you or thy are looking at. He said he was on Xbox offline by doing that though lemme know if you happen to get it
People farming them and one a palbox goes down it stops all spawns in that palboxes area. Also the server I was on was bugged for a day and pals weren't spawning anywhere. Then the next day my progress was wiped. Not the server just my progress lol so I went to my own "offline" server
@@FringePatriotGaming hopefully in the future there will be a way of having your own personally hosted server. I always hated pvp in survival games. I don't get to play much so having another person come in and destroy what I've worked on never sat well. I'm looking forward to this one because it seems more of a base builder exploration type game. And not too heavy on survival like ark was. Having pets do most of the actual work while I manage it is more my style, but it's still more fun with friends.
Can this game be played completely without internet? Or When this game fails or shuts down for whatever reason and taken off the market. Will i still be able to play and own the game for years to come? Or is it just a waste of 30$ thats eventually gonna go poff. Cuz why not just build the game around single-player 1st and then multiplayer? Why dose everything need an internet connection to play a single-player game? Remind me when this game is shutting down for better or worse. And if you guys can still play this game. OFFLINE!
Seriously? For a community server? You sure that isn't something the server admin put in to help prevent cheaters? This is the first I'm hearing of this
Right, this video dropped before palworld did the points were meant to be generalized. If I had to remake this video today it would go like this. Pros of official server- none hackers/cheaters ruined any and all pros. All survival game official servers have cheater problems but palworlds cheater problem is next level
me and my friends are looking to rent a server for ourselves so we always have a slot and not have to go through queues and know that no one is hacking/griefing
Depending on how many friends you have, you and three others can jump between your own servers. Like on your own server you can invite up to three people
@@FringePatriotGaming if the host is ‘offline’ can the other 3 players that have been invited to server be able to hope on the server and continue to play?
It honestly just kinda sucks that if you want to play with friends, you need to be in an official server if you guys don’t play at the same time. Cause ur friends can’t keep their pals or bases when they join ur single player world. And that really sucks imo
@@sonic-bb ohh right right. They said they are working on being able to transfer their character and pal party between their offline servers and friends servers. Bases probably not but character stats and pals they are working on
Yeah we went over there FAQ post they made a few videos back and it was in there. So unless they were wrong with some translation error but it was petty cut and dry
Survival Servers wiki page has the current early access info about setting up a server or even renting a server from them. We can only see how that will change when the game launches.
you can invite your buddy into your server and he can invite you into his, up to 4 people at once, so you and three others. sorry I should have mentioned these servers but I didn't compare them so didn't think about it
How much like ark survival is this. I had survival games where you always start from nothing. Is this an actual game where you complete a story and events through the world ?
If there is a story it's probably not straight forward like a cod campaign but more like valheim. I'm not entirely sure on that though. World events I'm not sure of either to be honest great points
They are all only pve right now pvp haas not been released yet. Online servers are still wonky though the one I was playing wiped all my characters progress. Idk what the building problems ark has so I can't speak to that
@FringePatriotGaming thanks I just bought it, tge issue with ark is that people place pillars all around an area to prevent people from building as they slowly build its annoying lol as a lot of beautiful spots are littered with greedy people who take all the land to themselves
@ghostface9171 oh right you could potentially collude with a few people to keep others out of the area but from what I understand is it's 1 palbox per guild until level 10 palbox then you get to put down a second base also at level 15 palbox you unlock a third base. It takes some time to level a palbox so I don't think it will have the same problem as ark
@FringePatriotGaming thanks for the info, so far I'm having fun in the game and doesn't seem to be an issue with the building from what I've seen so far, game is great
You are an absolute legend! And yes it wasn't meant to be specific to palworld aside from the server cap problems. We don't have any first hand experience with the palworld official and all of my cons with em could possibly be addressed in some way shape or form. I may have to re compare the multi player pros and cons at a later date. After we get our hands on them
@@FringePatriotGaming I watched a video where a husband and wife were playing multiplayer and they came across a lot of issues where pals weren't in the same spot for both of them , items were visible to one player but not the other..
@@DracosMinions I've been avoiding all of the early early access stuff that's been coming out since the nda has lifted but that doesn't bode well for official servers that's for sure
No clue but I'd imagine eventually maybe. It depends on how they decide to do pvp I bet if pvp is rustish then probably somewhat often wipes but if it's duel style I'd say not often if ever
Conan Exiles + DQ Builders + Pokemon = Palworld. I used to play Conan. I will not be playing public servers in this game. Private servers are cool though for multiplayer.
I played Conan and it was completely awesome on public servers if you find a relatively grief free server and just be a bit careful until you have yourself established.
I will most likely be playing this with my family in the 4 player mode. Do we have any idea how that works? Is there a tether to the host, can you mess with the game setting, etc.
So on your pc you would boot up a world this is your offline world you can adjust the settings idk which ones for sure. You can then invite 3 other people to that map. Your family can do the same with their own maps but if they want to continue on the family map whoever started that map has to be on. It's by invite as well so you would just invite them there if I'm not mistaken
@FringePatriotGaming so kinda like minecraft. Do you know if there is a tether like ark has? An Area around the host that the invited have to stay inside? Thanks for responding BTW 😁
@reaperdragon1 not a problem I always try to respond, idk if there is a tether system or how big the map is. Hopefully if there is a tether system it's a big area that you can spread out. Yes practically exactly like minecraft. Rumor is you claim land to build on official servers so idk if raiding will even be a thing. Also idk if you claim land on your own server, it might just be free build for everyone
@reaperdragon1 No tether in Palworld! 🤩Me and my hubby stopped playing Ark for that reason after they got rid of the legacy servers🥲 too much time wasted! 🙌 I’m sure you and your family will love Palworld! Its a fun game!! 🥰
No I don't think they even know which way they want to take pvp yet. Rust style or duel style I don't think they have that dialed in but they are working on pvp so idk
I think invite only / friends list mp would be ok. Or something similar to monster hunter world - you could still have the duels ect but could keep it know groups. I flat out won't buy a game that doesn't have solid offline single player due to the griefers/ hackers ect. And generally crappy internet. Plus I feel that the mmo style is an excuse used to get people to pay for low content worlds abound with griefers. That said I do favor games with strong world building and character development- so... different genre I guess.
They need ironed out a bit that's for sure. I lost two days of progress on an official server because my character got deleted so I just moved to my own offline one
I think a big con for me on offline servers is having access to all the settings. A lot of time when I play a new game I struggle with the first step of setting up difficulty. That it kills my desire to play. Not to mention on server based games like this they give you so many other settings that you can play with to make things easier or harder. The best thing I like to see to fix this is to provide a reward for playing with default settings on easy, normal or hard and then providing rewards for harder difficulties. Like cosmetics. It also pretty apparent that games that don't have settings like these generally do better. Like souls-likes and most rogue-lites. Also Pokemon and most monster tamers I know have don't have difficulties either. Games that have fun with difficulty rewards like Dead Space 2 is really great. As playing on hard difficulties rewards you. You aren't just doing it to suffer. I think difficulty settings just heavily undermine the experience of games. As if things are too easy or hard it can be because the difficulty you set it on and it ruins the authentic experience unless you are rewarded for it. I know I'm gonna struggle with this when playing offline or with friends.
I prefer games with no difficulty settings as well like in valheim when it first came out you had access to all the commands which kind of made the game pointless if you knew them. And in palworld for example if you could just creative mode the settings that would kind of be the same thing. I don't honestly know what difficulty settings are available but if there are some I agree with you about cosmetics earned via harder playthroughs. There is nothing better than earned cosmetics
They were letting a few people play early and stream it today and I can confirm they will have easy, normal, and hard for settings. The difference between the difficulties mostly seems to be around if you drop loot or not and if your pals die or just get knocked out. With various other custom settings beside the difficulty, like xp gain and day and night length. Also I didn't know that about Valheim but I try to avoid command menus like the plague.@@FringePatriotGaming
@@NicromeShooter yea nda was lifted for those who applied for pocket pairs creator program. I was too lazy to apply lol but I've been avoiding those videos so my experience on live on the launch the 19th is fresh. I didn't even read the entirety of this comment XD sorry
Yeah makes sense I won't say anything more about what I saw. Just thought the difficulty thing was a good thing to know either way. Sorry if you rather not have known about it yet. @@FringePatriotGaming
Biggest con for online servers .. the XP gain and egg hatching times are horrid, boss respawn timers are map wide not player bound so you'll be constantly fighting looking for a boss that hasn't been killed yet, and the biggest issue ever is frequent server wipes, take you about 50 hours to reach level 30 only to wake up one morning and the servers been wiped and you've lost all your shit . Fk that me and my mate has opened our own private one, way more fun and stable and no surprise wipes.
I had like 2 days of progress deleted from an official server. The server didn't reset just my character. After that I swapped to my own offline server imma wait out the early server problems I'm thinkin
@@FringePatriotGaming yes it shows 50 ping in menu, but it feels like playing with 300 ping. its only in palworld, all other games like rust, diablo 2, multiplayer is fine no lags. i have no idea what to do. can't fix it
@@goblinslayer3002 it's probably something in that server that is causing the lag. To be fair the games optimization isn't great but the lag you are describing seems like it's being caused by something
@@FringePatriotGaming i tested it on 5 offi EU server and 2 private server, all laggy af like playing on chinese or NA server. yes it has to be something.. maybe something with my provider, don't know.. but that can't be normal
have u played offline mode or you lying to us because I tried playing offline and it doesn't let me it says this game may need an update please connect to the internet so ether u lying getting paid out by the devs
No they are going to be shipping the update via UPS. Expected delivery time is two weeks. Take the floppy disc you get and slap that in that ought to fix it.
Numerous players have claimed to be playing without an internet connection. You might need to download an update which obviously requires the internet. Are you on Xbox? Or steam? It could also be a bug
A shame Xbox has no dedicated servers I have PC. And Xbox, but all my friends are on Xbox so I play it on there with them but you can’t even have more than 4 players online at once!!
Yeah but to be honest I don't know if you have seen the online servers lately but they are falling apart. At least the official ones are, all my progress got wiped on the one I was playing today
They see disconnecting like crazy and last night no wild pals were spawning on the server I was playing, it has a few things to iron out still hopefully by the time Xbox servers launch they will be smooth as butter
I'm assuming the story line is loose like valheim. No direct story but each faction leader being similar milestone wise to valheim bosses. I'm not sure though
Griefing by blocking an area is childs play wait for them to box in spawn points and with no PvP yet you can't break the wall so a single group could run a whole public server (seen this tactic on ark for certain areas not the whole map)
Okay the way the servers work is your character can move to any server at anytime and pvp wont be in the game like rust if there is any it will be arena style for sure.
Full loot as well? With raiding ark/rust style? Idk I'm up in the air as to if that would work. Flying pals would be the goto for everything and their cool downs are crazy when you fly em. Some things would have to be tweaked for sure
They need to bring Pokemon back at it's roots though with Virtual Reality, surprised more games aren't like these or Gritty like a Civilmon with Zombies and Necromancers, Minotaurs, Beholders to capture but more survival horror Vietnam style with Infrared and other Blends.
Mods are optional anyway u're not required to use them if u don't want to. Tho tbh, as long as Mods are used only on ur own PC and not affecting other players, i think that's fine
I just want to warn anyone who hasnt played ark. 1 Guild will own a whole server. Every official server will be owned by 1 specific guild. They will spawn trap you. They will use max level pals to destroy your starter base. They will extort you for pals, metal, and gold coins
If this ends up having a rust/ark style pvp that sounds about right. If it's more like dueling rather than raiding then maybe some healthy competition can form on the official servers
This game was made for PvP. There's no a huge lore, then the important thing is improve your pals, build good bases and raid/pvp other players. I wish the game run by this way
Idk if there will end up being raiding. Also idk how pvp will end up working. I agree though monster tamers and pvp go hand and hand. This isn't turn based though so really idk what it will shake out like
? The game isn't out to the public yet so i can't directly compare what the official servers are like to the what the offline ones are like but the pros and cons are really general not specific so even if we had access to online servers this video would most likely look the same. Aside from I could say yep... day 1 servers were a mess just like everywhere other games launch
damnit i wanted this game to be good but unfortunately its going to fail because it has difficulty sliders. idk why companies think its a good idea to make their games ez mode from day 1. why would u waste ur time with running slow or losing everything on death. or farming monsters when u can just change a slider and save urself days of work. just give us all the same game without cheats enabled!
BE SURE TO COMMENT! Are you playing Offline or on the Official Servers? or maybe just running a private server with 3 of your buddies?
I would preferably do a private sever with my friends so I wouldn’t lose all my pals
@AveryMacQuarrie-km8or I feel like there are a lot of people who would rather just run a server with their friends. I'm curious as to how they plan on running their official servers
I feel like they should of gone more in a valheim route and avoided server based play entirely. Maybe with some type of matchmaking arena for people to do pvp if they want.
@@NicromeShooter I kind of agree. Official online servers took me by surprise in the video I made covering their FAQ. 32 player cap seems small and official online servers is a risky move even with larger server caps. Rust and ark official servers for example
Yeah very small hard to do much with. Not to mention people are gonna be practilly unable to play on the same server whenever they want for awhile and arks case I think the only reason people put up with that type of gameplay was because of it really being the only game to tame dinosaurs in such an interactive manner. I even got grappled by it and just wished they made an open world singleplayer game with similar features and a story.@@FringePatriotGaming As why Atlas failed so hard cause it's gimmick didn't work at all for server based play.
Gonna be honest when I first saw this game I thought it was just a meme and was gonna be a flop but the more I hear about it the I'm actually invested in playing it. Will definitely have to try it out
I think there is a good chance this turns into a banger. Nda was lifted two days ago for people in pocketpairs creator program. I was too lazy to even apply but have been avoiding those videos so I still don't know exactly what the game looks or plays like but I hopefully they nailed it. 2 days till public launch
Honestly talking about wars between guilds and clans has me excited, I'm probably just going to be playing on offline servers with friends but I'll be looking forward to the first videos of full on brawls large groups of players.
it is going to be interesting to see how the official servers play out that is for sure, especially when pvp launches. pvp not being there at launch almost adds anticipation to the battles that are coming
i mean can you even really have clan wars if theres 32 players max on a server and guilds are 20 people max? idk.
I mean the game is new so I see the map being way bigger at one point being able to hold more then 32 people
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Definitely going with non official server hosted by me, you should be able to host that on your own pc setting your own rules and choosing which mods to run with your friends. Exactly how it's meant to be played.
Yeah up to 3 of your friends you can invite each other between each of your servers. From what I've heard the "offline" server you host has difficulty sliders. You can still invite up to 3 people to that server and "turn it online"
@@FringePatriotGaming you just gotta keep your xbox running as the host ..so a bit of a pain trying to play with a few friends unless the host is an absolute homie and stays logged in infinitely cause when the host logs out everybody gets the boot..would be great if you could have a server between 2 to 5 people that could just log in to a shared custom world whenever they please, as if everbody is the "host"
@DjDoxastic yeah you could host one via a third party but that's on pc. Eventually you should be able to host a server via a third party but it would cost. I think it's like 8 bucks a month for a 4 person server to be hosted
private hosted server is always the way to go with this kind of game
If they had like 100 server player count this game would be considered an mmo and it feels like one. I hope they increase the server cap down the road.
My server last night was not spawning wild pals. Then all the servers seemed to shut down idk if they could handle 100 people in a server. Also idk why wild pals weren't spawning in mine
They've been having the same issues with the new Ark, honestly just might be nitrados horrible servers, hopefully they open it up to other server hosts
I think the map is too small to do that.
Do the offline servers have peer to peer coop with friends? I thought the devs said that 1-4 coop was just direct invite and then 4-32 required either playing on an official server or renting your own private server, if I just wanted to play coop with 1-2 friends am I going to be forced into the crowded dedicated ones?
Yes you can co op with up to 3 other people, 4 including yourself on your server and their servers I believe via invite. I should have mentioned those but wasn't comparing that to anything so I didn't but you are right you can play with some friends via invite
@@FringePatriotGaming Awesome ^^. I appreciate the clarification!
@@FringePatriotGaming what if im logout from the game, are the 3 friends im invited can still play on those server?
@key.2358 if it's your world you invited them to no they would get booted. If your bud invited you to their world they could play when you left
Legendaries are on a cooldown after being caught, no way to get the legendary u want on an online server at launch.
Online servers gonna be wild that's for sure. I'm wondering if spawn rates or anything will be changed to accommodate
It does NOT allow offline play. I just bought the game about 2 hours ago, and unless I keep the Xbox connected. It closes the game out, and won't allow any play.
I've heard several Xbox users with this problem I'm assuming it's a bug because I can play offline using steam. I'll let you know if anything about that being a bug comes out
@@FringePatriotGaming Thanks, I really appreciate it.
@jamesgolden7317 seems a lot of Xbox users are experiencing this I'm assuming it's a bug. Someone said they are playing on Xbox offline by skipping the error messages. Like I'm assuming hitting the b button on them but I don't know exactly what you or thy are looking at. He said he was on Xbox offline by doing that though lemme know if you happen to get it
@FringePatriotGaming I click B after the error pops up, and it still won't let it start. I was also told that if I got the $1 game pass thing. It'll allow me to set my game to offline, and it'll play. It didn't work so far.
Made it! Thank you for making this video!
You freaking rock! Thank you for the comment!
Im definitely just playing private with two of my friends cause i rather have less people that i enjoy playing with then more who might ruin my experience
Yeah I'm excited to see how official servers end up workin
Hosted servers are really only for communities/guilds/friends, otherwise you should really just play official servers or on your own. Otherwise what really is the point.
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Good points all around. Would be interesting to see some of those "Civilzation-experiments" done in Palworld if possible one day. They're a riot to watch in Minecraft.
Right higher pop servers would be needed I think
there are a lot of people looking to play this game at 32 players a server it is going to be a crazy number of servers
I'm thinking the same thing. I have a bad feeling about day one server stability lol
I agree not playing on a server makes the game boring. I love the game so far and it has been fun playing with family, but they have already stopped playing and now I'm alone and it just feels empty. I do love the grind and solo it was fun for a few hours, but then I got to around level 30 and I explored the whole map, saw most of the pals around, killed bosses, and made my base to craft everything pretty efficiently... but you miss multiplayer aspects these survival games need. That sense of sharing time spent on your base, or your pals. And without other players, the world definitely feels empty.
Yeah we need moderated public community servers but the game needs pvp first
I just found this video because I got it on PS5 and I'm really hoping we get servers
for me I like the server been alive with lots of ppl running around and exploring
of course the first 2 weeks will be flooded with lots of toxic players but after that it'll be an awesome game to chill and talk to others
and make few new friends
can't depends on my irl friends on this game XD
Yeah that's a good point. I'm hoping the day 1 server problems aren't too terrible
I play on a hosted server... its awful. The ping is stuck at 270-240. You can't use the grapple hook. You can't drop from a flying mount and pull your parachute. Climbing is iffy because the lag might throw you back over the edge.
Are you in NA connecting to China servers or something why is the ping stuck that high. Also by hosted do you mean hosted by someone you know or do you mean one of the official servers
I'm confused at how things like hunting alpha pals would work with large servers or multi-player. I would think there would be a massive issue with griefing and frustration with the respawn timers, especially if the game crashing resets the timer to where some alpha pals can't respawn!
Yeah if someone or a group of people are farming the alphas it can be hard to land one. That's not the main problem though. Official servers are dead until there's an anti cheat
My friend is hosting the server I'm playing on. The bugs in the game and lack of optimization causes a lot of crashes. There's also problems with how the game handles what happens when other people are playing when you're not on. I always come back to my pals all depressed and weakened since the AI bugs out when you're not there.
On online or official servers the server is constantly running and official servers have the difficulty cranked a bit. From what I understand when you log off your pals keep working and if they don't have everything they need to stay happy they will all get sick. Even on my offline server if I have everything my pals need and I run em while I afk for awhile they all get sick. I think they over do it on official servers because of the rule set. Idk about the one you are playing on because it's being hosted the rules might be easier or even harder idk
@@FringePatriotGaming Our server settings are pretty close to solo normal rates. Pals will also be moved above your palbox and get stuck when you're not logged in but other people are, so they can't reach food boxes. Self sustainable bases will not work properly if youre not logged on. I've noticed this happen after the server crashes and gets restarted. P2P 4 player is probably a lot less frustrating and more worth it for most people unless you're playing with a large group at least for now
These kind of companies confuse me so much - they've had such incredibles success but they can't hire some consultants who are like top of the line AI coders to fix these issues?
Thank you for making this video
No thank you for the comment XD
Im excited it reminds me of ark while everyone was in a tribe I was a caveman running around pumped with mele, health, and speed juts imagine flying around five bombing people
Tbh I really like playing offline servers.
No competition and trolling. Like huge advantage players just murder new players
I agree that's why I prefer to record how to and guides on solo servers. Last I checked the poll I ran is literally neck and neck though
you can't play offline on Xbox i tired starting it offline and just says connect to internet and i brought the game and it does not work offline i want to play it offline but it won't let me
Interesting. You are second perdon to report that imma dig in their discord and see if it's a bug or intentional
Sweet as let me know if you find anything hopefully it is just a bug@@FringePatriotGaming
I've run into the same situation, the console is designated as my home console, and it just tells me to connect to the network in order to play.🤔
Hopefully its just a issue that can be fixed because if your wifi were to go down fora bit you can still play it normally hopefully it gets fixed with an update would like to be play instead of going online every single time offline would be nice i mean it can be played offline as i heard it can but nope that is not working @@MySplatterhouse
If you downloaded it from GamePass instead of purchasing the game, that could be the problem.
excellent at least it can be played offline. Sick of online only to function or even boot up
If you are on Xbox people are having a hard time booting offline. I'm assuming it's a bug but not 100% sure. On pc I've run it offline through steam though
Can't necessarily play offline at least on xbox...you need a internet connection to even start the game up.
I think Xbox version is bugged. I can play offline with steam so I'm thinking it's a bug I'll let you know if I find anything for sure
seems a lot of Xbox users are experiencing this I'm assuming it's a bug. Someone said they are playing on Xbox offline by skipping the error messages. Like I'm assuming hitting the b button on them but I don't know exactly what you or thy are looking at. He said he was on Xbox offline by doing that though lemme know if you happen to get it
@@FringePatriotGaming yeah I tried it and it won't even start up pressing b on prompt just takes you back to home screen
I tried online servers first but there are only few pals on starting areas due to the fact that so much people are farming them
People farming them and one a palbox goes down it stops all spawns in that palboxes area. Also the server I was on was bugged for a day and pals weren't spawning anywhere. Then the next day my progress was wiped. Not the server just my progress lol so I went to my own "offline" server
Are you able to make private servers? Like what if I just want to play with a small group of like maybe 5-10 people?
Yes I believe at a rental cost though. Yes and it seems they will have tools to do so. They being pocketpair. I'm not 100% sure though
@@FringePatriotGaming hopefully in the future there will be a way of having your own personally hosted server.
I always hated pvp in survival games. I don't get to play much so having another person come in and destroy what I've worked on never sat well.
I'm looking forward to this one because it seems more of a base builder exploration type game. And not too heavy on survival like ark was. Having pets do most of the actual work while I manage it is more my style, but it's still more fun with friends.
@Jake-ky4yj you should be able to host a server for up to 32 people that is private. It just probably has a rental fee but im not entirely sure
Can this game be played completely without internet?
Or
When this game fails or
shuts down for whatever reason and taken off the market.
Will i still be able to play and own the game for years to come?
Or is it just a waste of 30$ thats eventually gonna go poff.
Cuz why not just build the game around single-player 1st and then multiplayer?
Why dose everything need an internet connection to play a single-player game?
Remind me when this game is shutting down for better or worse. And if you guys can still play this game. OFFLINE!
You can play entirely offline
Wether those offline servers work if the game shut down. Idk
wish some of the pals had darker, more intense looks... all of them look too nicey nice. Make some BA Yugioh looking blue eyed white dragon guys
You think they could do that without making the art style they went for look out of place?
we are currently 26 players in a guild, have fun at any official EU servers guys
Also anytime you want to play you have to get a new invite code everyday to join you server
Seriously? For a community server? You sure that isn't something the server admin put in to help prevent cheaters? This is the first I'm hearing of this
You can trade Pals threw the Palbox if in the same guild.
Interesting I haven't been in a guild yet so this is new info for me
Oh snap character customization AND I can play OFFLINE!?!? I may have to give this a go!! 👍🏿👍🏿
This game is amazing. I would give it a shot for sure.
Not trying to take away from ur opinion but to be fair all those cons for online are in any survival game
Right, this video dropped before palworld did the points were meant to be generalized. If I had to remake this video today it would go like this. Pros of official server- none hackers/cheaters ruined any and all pros. All survival game official servers have cheater problems but palworlds cheater problem is next level
me and my friends are looking to rent a server for ourselves so we always have a slot and not have to go through queues and know that no one is hacking/griefing
Depending on how many friends you have, you and three others can jump between your own servers. Like on your own server you can invite up to three people
@@FringePatriotGaming if the host is ‘offline’ can the other 3 players that have been invited to server be able to hope on the server and continue to play?
@@JAFR03nope
19th release date. Is there an official server?
That's what they made it sound like in their FAQ that I went over a few videos back so I'm thinking yes
It honestly just kinda sucks that if you want to play with friends, you need to be in an official server if you guys don’t play at the same time. Cause ur friends can’t keep their pals or bases when they join ur single player world. And that really sucks imo
Their bases disappear as well? And their pals? They can't even say store pals un your storage and grab em later?
@@FringePatriotGaming yup cause it considers it as a brand new save file when they join ur world
@@FringePatriotGaming like they can create bases and pals in ur world. But can only access them while in ur world
@@sonic-bb ohh right right. They said they are working on being able to transfer their character and pal party between their offline servers and friends servers. Bases probably not but character stats and pals they are working on
whered you find a lv25 spawned jetragon ? hes 50 over in the volcano area
This was them showing off in a trailer idk if the trailer lines up 1 to 1 with the game. I haven't seen a level 25 jetragon yet
@FringePatriotGaming darn I was hoping to catch the lower level for now and eventually get the boss version lol .
I was playing offline, I don't have internet and I can't play? I didn't understand
After the sakurajima update? I haven't had time to try and jump on but I don't remember the game requiring internet
@@FringePatriotGaming well I play on Xbox that's probably it
MADE IT!
Are there even any official servers for launch?
Official servers should be on launch and you freaking rock!!
steam page doesnt say multiplayer
are u sure there is official servers ?
Yeah we went over there FAQ post they made a few videos back and it was in there. So unless they were wrong with some translation error but it was petty cut and dry
Survival Servers wiki page has the current early access info about setting up a server or even renting a server from them. We can only see how that will change when the game launches.
I haven't checked in awhile but last I heard was they haven't given out server info yet to and 3rd parties but that could have changed by now
survival game community tries not to invade new game and find ways to completely ruin it (literally impossible challenge)
We survive XD
Hopefully the Palworld devs see this video...
Doubt it, why though?
Yeah but endgame economy only works if server doesn’t have things like mega tribes or thing like ark that economy of players is horrific
True I'm wondering if they will cap guild size being that the server size player count is so small
Hoping my buddy will put a server up other wise ill be playing solo
you can invite your buddy into your server and he can invite you into his, up to 4 people at once, so you and three others. sorry I should have mentioned these servers but I didn't compare them so didn't think about it
Hope they add fast dedicated servers on xbox
For real that needs to happen asap
How much like ark survival is this. I had survival games where you always start from nothing. Is this an actual game where you complete a story and events through the world ?
If there is a story it's probably not straight forward like a cod campaign but more like valheim. I'm not entirely sure on that though. World events I'm not sure of either to be honest great points
So their is no pve server like ark? If not ill wait for one lol also hope the building is not an issue like it is in ark
They are all only pve right now pvp haas not been released yet. Online servers are still wonky though the one I was playing wiped all my characters progress. Idk what the building problems ark has so I can't speak to that
@FringePatriotGaming thanks I just bought it, tge issue with ark is that people place pillars all around an area to prevent people from building as they slowly build its annoying lol as a lot of beautiful spots are littered with greedy people who take all the land to themselves
@ghostface9171 oh right you could potentially collude with a few people to keep others out of the area but from what I understand is it's 1 palbox per guild until level 10 palbox then you get to put down a second base also at level 15 palbox you unlock a third base. It takes some time to level a palbox so I don't think it will have the same problem as ark
@FringePatriotGaming thanks for the info, so far I'm having fun in the game and doesn't seem to be an issue with the building from what I've seen so far, game is great
how to know if your server has pvp? may current server you cant pvp
They haven't released any pvp yet they don't know what direction they want to take the specifics of pvp from the last i checked
So I'm on xbox how do you get in on the official servers?
Xbox didn't get official servers unfortunately. From what I understand they are working to have those roll out though
Your not missing much the server experience has been up and down. My entire character got deleted on the server I was playing
Made it.. I think most of the multi player cons you pointed out are the same for all pve survival servers.
You are an absolute legend! And yes it wasn't meant to be specific to palworld aside from the server cap problems. We don't have any first hand experience with the palworld official and all of my cons with em could possibly be addressed in some way shape or form. I may have to re compare the multi player pros and cons at a later date. After we get our hands on them
@@FringePatriotGaming I watched a video where a husband and wife were playing multiplayer and they came across a lot of issues where pals weren't in the same spot for both of them , items were visible to one player but not the other..
@@DracosMinions I've been avoiding all of the early early access stuff that's been coming out since the nda has lifted but that doesn't bode well for official servers that's for sure
Offline first to get familiar with the game
I think that's why I like recording guides in a solo environment. I'm wondering if official servers will wipe and if so how often
does official servers wipe like rust?
No clue but I'd imagine eventually maybe. It depends on how they decide to do pvp I bet if pvp is rustish then probably somewhat often wipes but if it's duel style I'd say not often if ever
Conan Exiles + DQ Builders + Pokemon = Palworld.
I used to play Conan. I will not be playing public servers in this game. Private servers are cool though for multiplayer.
Smart choice official servers are broken with hackers right now
I played Conan and it was completely awesome on public servers if you find a relatively grief free server and just be a bit careful until you have yourself established.
made it! I MADE IT!
You are an Absolute Legend!! I appreciate it!
I will most likely be playing this with my family in the 4 player mode. Do we have any idea how that works? Is there a tether to the host, can you mess with the game setting, etc.
So on your pc you would boot up a world this is your offline world you can adjust the settings idk which ones for sure. You can then invite 3 other people to that map. Your family can do the same with their own maps but if they want to continue on the family map whoever started that map has to be on. It's by invite as well so you would just invite them there if I'm not mistaken
@FringePatriotGaming so kinda like minecraft. Do you know if there is a tether like ark has? An Area around the host that the invited have to stay inside?
Thanks for responding BTW 😁
@reaperdragon1 not a problem I always try to respond, idk if there is a tether system or how big the map is. Hopefully if there is a tether system it's a big area that you can spread out. Yes practically exactly like minecraft. Rumor is you claim land to build on official servers so idk if raiding will even be a thing. Also idk if you claim land on your own server, it might just be free build for everyone
Idk how much I'll play on big servers but if I really like it and it isn't too full of cheaters I'll check it out lol
@reaperdragon1 No tether in Palworld! 🤩Me and my hubby stopped playing Ark for that reason after they got rid of the legacy servers🥲 too much time wasted! 🙌 I’m sure you and your family will love Palworld! Its a fun game!! 🥰
I can’t play Palworld offline without an internet connection.
Let me dig and see if anything was mentioned on discord
@@FringePatriotGaming Okay thanks, I am on Xbox btw.
Same here i want to play offline but it won't let me @@kennysharp7314
Watched the whole Video, im probably Hosting a 32 Player Server, but Hide it behind a Passwort und just invite Friends or Fellow Creators :D
Smart. That's probably a good way to avoid the queue and any major server stability problems
Watched my whole video? As in made it? XD you are an Absolute Legend!
So pvp isn’t out yet?
No I don't think they even know which way they want to take pvp yet. Rust style or duel style I don't think they have that dialed in but they are working on pvp so idk
In which server pal works 24 hours
Are you on Xbox or pc? Pc has official servers which run constantly
😮 i dont wanna be that guy but this launched with very little issues, scarlet/violet was really rough lol, kinda still is occasionally
Does scarlet and violet have official servers and building? Cause the launch was even more impressively SMOOTH AF considering that as well
@@FringePatriotGamingbut you don’t have to start over when joining a friends world in scarlet and violet
I think invite only / friends list mp would be ok. Or something similar to monster hunter world - you could still have the duels ect but could keep it know groups.
I flat out won't buy a game that doesn't have solid offline single player due to the griefers/ hackers ect. And generally crappy internet.
Plus I feel that the mmo style is an excuse used to get people to pay for low content worlds abound with griefers. That said I do favor games with strong world building and character development- so... different genre I guess.
I enjoyed palworlds single player offline mode
I want to play multiplayer but I don't know about any server and I also don't have friends
Official servers wipe on the 30th of this month I'd join one then. Typically everyone is very friendly
@@FringePatriotGaming how to join them ?
@dhruvyadav8439 are you on Xbox or pc?
@@FringePatriotGaming I have downloaded palworld from Xbox but I play on pc
Xbox games pass includes palworld
I'm just doing a private server with me and my friends
Nice!
You can't even build a palbox online because all official servers are full
They need ironed out a bit that's for sure. I lost two days of progress on an official server because my character got deleted so I just moved to my own offline one
I think a big con for me on offline servers is having access to all the settings. A lot of time when I play a new game I struggle with the first step of setting up difficulty. That it kills my desire to play. Not to mention on server based games like this they give you so many other settings that you can play with to make things easier or harder. The best thing I like to see to fix this is to provide a reward for playing with default settings on easy, normal or hard and then providing rewards for harder difficulties. Like cosmetics. It also pretty apparent that games that don't have settings like these generally do better. Like souls-likes and most rogue-lites. Also Pokemon and most monster tamers I know have don't have difficulties either. Games that have fun with difficulty rewards like Dead Space 2 is really great. As playing on hard difficulties rewards you. You aren't just doing it to suffer. I think difficulty settings just heavily undermine the experience of games. As if things are too easy or hard it can be because the difficulty you set it on and it ruins the authentic experience unless you are rewarded for it. I know I'm gonna struggle with this when playing offline or with friends.
I prefer games with no difficulty settings as well like in valheim when it first came out you had access to all the commands which kind of made the game pointless if you knew them. And in palworld for example if you could just creative mode the settings that would kind of be the same thing. I don't honestly know what difficulty settings are available but if there are some I agree with you about cosmetics earned via harder playthroughs. There is nothing better than earned cosmetics
They were letting a few people play early and stream it today and I can confirm they will have easy, normal, and hard for settings. The difference between the difficulties mostly seems to be around if you drop loot or not and if your pals die or just get knocked out. With various other custom settings beside the difficulty, like xp gain and day and night length. Also I didn't know that about Valheim but I try to avoid command menus like the plague.@@FringePatriotGaming
@@NicromeShooter yea nda was lifted for those who applied for pocket pairs creator program. I was too lazy to apply lol but I've been avoiding those videos so my experience on live on the launch the 19th is fresh. I didn't even read the entirety of this comment XD sorry
@NicromeShooter oh I read it now that makes sense difficulties wise. I'm wondering what official servers will look like on the 19th
Yeah makes sense I won't say anything more about what I saw. Just thought the difficulty thing was a good thing to know either way. Sorry if you rather not have known about it yet. @@FringePatriotGaming
Biggest con for online servers .. the XP gain and egg hatching times are horrid, boss respawn timers are map wide not player bound so you'll be constantly fighting looking for a boss that hasn't been killed yet, and the biggest issue ever is frequent server wipes, take you about 50 hours to reach level 30 only to wake up one morning and the servers been wiped and you've lost all your shit . Fk that me and my mate has opened our own private one, way more fun and stable and no surprise wipes.
All true
All those points are valid and don't even mention the cheating problem XD
I'm totally cool with server wipes but I wish they could do it in a way that wouldn't wipe our base constructions
Made it lol I’m pretty excited for this game
You freaking rock! I am pumped for this game and get more excited by the day
Them officials servers has a long loading screen
I had like 2 days of progress deleted from an official server. The server didn't reset just my character. After that I swapped to my own offline server imma wait out the early server problems I'm thinkin
i will likely play solo... 32 player is a bit too.... small ... if bigger server il join at a point in meantime il learn in peace xD
I feel that
i want to play online but all server are laggy af unplayable.
I haven't had lag problems unless it was caused by cheaters. Are you in your region?
@@FringePatriotGaming yes it shows 50 ping in menu, but it feels like playing with 300 ping. its only in palworld, all other games like rust, diablo 2, multiplayer is fine no lags. i have no idea what to do. can't fix it
@@goblinslayer3002 it's probably something in that server that is causing the lag. To be fair the games optimization isn't great but the lag you are describing seems like it's being caused by something
@@FringePatriotGaming i tested it on 5 offi EU server and 2 private server, all laggy af like playing on chinese or NA server. yes it has to be something.. maybe something with my provider, don't know.. but that can't be normal
@goblinslayer3002 even on your own private server you are lagging?
Can this game play offline ?
I've heard people have done so successfully and I've heard others have problems. I don't know the specifics of each situation though
have u played offline mode or you lying to us because I tried playing offline and it doesn't let me it says this game may need an update please connect to the internet so ether u lying getting paid out by the devs
No they are going to be shipping the update via UPS. Expected delivery time is two weeks. Take the floppy disc you get and slap that in that ought to fix it.
Numerous players have claimed to be playing without an internet connection. You might need to download an update which obviously requires the internet. Are you on Xbox? Or steam? It could also be a bug
@@FringePatriotGaming hahahahha
MADE IT 🎉
Yup its been confirmed. You are an absolute legend!
A shame Xbox has no dedicated servers I have PC. And Xbox, but all my friends are on Xbox so I play it on there with them but you can’t even have more than 4 players online at once!!
Yeah but to be honest I don't know if you have seen the online servers lately but they are falling apart. At least the official ones are, all my progress got wiped on the one I was playing today
They see disconnecting like crazy and last night no wild pals were spawning on the server I was playing, it has a few things to iron out still hopefully by the time Xbox servers launch they will be smooth as butter
No crossplay ?
Not at launch
how will the story line work with official servers
I'm assuming the story line is loose like valheim. No direct story but each faction leader being similar milestone wise to valheim bosses. I'm not sure though
Griefing by blocking an area is childs play wait for them to box in spawn points and with no PvP yet you can't break the wall so a single group could run a whole public server (seen this tactic on ark for certain areas not the whole map)
Hopefully they are moderating the servers at launch
Okay the way the servers work is your character can move to any server at anytime and pvp wont be in the game like rust if there is any it will be arena style for sure.
You can't take your base or pals between official servers I don't think
Wrong lol
if you high enough level it doesnt matter you can grab new ones.@@FringePatriotGaming
They need a cap on guilds
Oh that a good point. What would be s good cap. At 32 player per server maybe 8? 4 even maybe jeesh 32 is not a lot to work with
full open world pvp pleasE!
Full loot as well? With raiding ark/rust style? Idk I'm up in the air as to if that would work. Flying pals would be the goto for everything and their cool downs are crazy when you fly em. Some things would have to be tweaked for sure
They need to bring Pokemon back at it's roots though with Virtual Reality, surprised more games aren't like these or Gritty like a Civilmon with Zombies and Necromancers, Minotaurs, Beholders to capture but more survival horror Vietnam style with Infrared and other Blends.
weird how every official server pro is a con for me.
Bummer
😂😂😂😂
you ain’t built for it
made it mate :)
That's wild, Absolute Legend! I appreciate the comment!
Finally!!! A Pokémon that has there own mind on fighting! And so much to do and catch 🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊
They're called pals now pokemon just got erased XD
Offline servers FTW, friends are overrated.
Fer real
PVP ruins games,PVE or solo and co-op saves games.However,Mods ruin games too imo.
Mods actually adds more layers to the games. Just look at Skyrim to this day many still play it because of amount of Mods
Mods are optional anyway u're not required to use them if u don't want to. Tho tbh, as long as Mods are used only on ur own PC and not affecting other players, i think that's fine
I just want to warn anyone who hasnt played ark. 1 Guild will own a whole server. Every official server will be owned by 1 specific guild. They will spawn trap you. They will use max level pals to destroy your starter base. They will extort you for pals, metal, and gold coins
If this ends up having a rust/ark style pvp that sounds about right. If it's more like dueling rather than raiding then maybe some healthy competition can form on the official servers
This game was made for PvP. There's no a huge lore, then the important thing is improve your pals, build good bases and raid/pvp other players. I wish the game run by this way
I don't think there is going to be raiding but I'm not entirely sure
@@FringePatriotGaming me too, just guessing lol
Idk if there will end up being raiding. Also idk how pvp will end up working. I agree though monster tamers and pvp go hand and hand. This isn't turn based though so really idk what it will shake out like
They could do simillar to ark survival
Idk if this game is really built for pvp tho. Considering some pals stats far dominate other pals. So just grab a bunch of end game pals and ur good
Oh, you're just being hypothetical... boo
? The game isn't out to the public yet so i can't directly compare what the official servers are like to the what the offline ones are like but the pros and cons are really general not specific so even if we had access to online servers this video would most likely look the same. Aside from I could say yep... day 1 servers were a mess just like everywhere other games launch
I got enough social guilds etc in MMO I’ve played for years. I don’t need more of that shit in this game I need a relax OFFLINE
I feel that for real. Should be great for that
damnit i wanted this game to be good but
unfortunately its going to fail because it has
difficulty sliders. idk why companies think its
a good idea to make their games ez mode from day 1.
why would u waste ur time with running slow or losing
everything on death. or farming monsters when u can
just change a slider and save urself days of work.
just give us all the same game without cheats enabled!
Official servers have no sliders.
Solo/offline will but the official will be standard for everyone.
It makes more sense for offline servers but at least official servers will be vanilla if those work properly
That's a relief