Forgot to mention the weekly OPR cache which also has a chance for 725, but no idea how high that chance is and the perks are fully random anyways: ptr.nwdb.info/db/item/pvpgm725rewardcontainer
The hearing is the exact same. Barely any new perks. Small pool of weapons. Aggressive time gates. They've made no effort to make the game feel rewarding
It feels like the devs are intentionally devaluing the rest of the content just to push endgame players toward the PvP island or the new raid. It's almost like they're forcing a lack of variety, making us grind only those two activities if we want to hit 725 endgame gear. Kind of disappointing that they're limiting the experience like this when there's so much potential in the game.
From what ive heard and read, this re-release of the game has been their primary focus for quite some time now. I would imagine that lack of added content can somewhat be blamed on that fact. Once this new variant of the game goes live next month with the update and console releases, they should then be able to move forward with the extra content. As for the update to the game, imo it feels like a polished game where before it felt no where near being a polished product when I played it about a yr ago. My one and only real complaint that I have found for the game after playing the open beta this weekend is that the gear crafting just has way too many variables for maxing your gear score per piece 😅
So every mutated expeditions are out of date, opr/arenas are out of date, and open world chest runs are out of date. So ags is basicaly sayin "here you go you waited a year for this, but all the content you bought is irrelevant now and all you will have to do to progress is that pvp island and that raid once a week". Thank god i stopped caring long ago
Leveling to 65 is going to take almost 30% more XP according to nwdb's character level table. Going from 1-56 is actually faster but from 56-65 takes significantly longer. In total we'll need 400k more XP to hit 65. Also weapon leveling is going to be much faster. The new XP required to hit level 20 on weapons is the same as the amount of XP it takes to currently hit level 15. Not sure if these changes are just for the open beta or they'll stay for the Aeternum update. We'll see I guess.
Why bother grinding and replacing all our old gear and upgrading to 725 gear score? It wouldn't be worth my time or energy to return to New World because the changes they've made don't address the core issues that caused me to quit in the first place. Simply increasing the gear score from 625 to 725 without adding substantial, meaningful content means that the grind continues with no real payoff in terms of new experiences or fun mechanics. The lack of new PvE content beyond a single time-gated 10-person raid shows a failure to provide variety or depth, which is critical for keeping players engaged long-term. Time-gating the raid to once per week, combined with a relatively low drop rate of 35% per boss for upgrade materials, feels like an artificial way to prolong the grind without offering real enjoyment. It forces players into a repetitive loop of logging in each week, hoping for drops, which can quickly become frustrating. Since I don’t play PvP, the addition of just one new PvP zone does nothing to enhance my experience, making the update feel empty for someone like me. This is a classic case of poor game management, where developers focus on extending the lifespan of the game with shallow updates instead of fixing fundamental issues or adding engaging, diverse content. Without meaningful change, investing more time and energy in this game would just be a waste.
I guess M3's will continue to be 700GS as it is the easier way to obtain high GS gear, but if you want the newest BiS, you'll have to do the most difficult endgame content there is, which is gonna be FFA PvP and Raids. I feel like M3's should at the very least give you like 700-715 though. But idk..
Correct. Currently no M3 changes (and unlikely at this late stage). Note that all the new paths are heavily timegated. Also the min recommended GS for new raid is 710 (725 recommended). However given how time-gated 710 GS with reasonable perks is, people will run it with 700 BiS. Also the schematics currently have a drop rate of 1 in 200 and I'm not sure but it might be limited so each boss can drop at 1 in 200, but once you kill that boss you don't roll again that week. Could well be wrong on that, but if so it means you can't spam (say) the first boss.
Yeah, gear score increase, sure, then what? The next update new gear score increase? Do devs even understand how hard is it to get gear? My god, this is completely out of touch. Also, time gating all those new items for max lvl gear - thats just the way to keep as many people online as possible. Very very stupid move, ain't nobody gonna spend month farming gear just to get hit by another gear score increase, basically making all your gear irrelevant and thus wasted month of life.
I completely agree why would the Devs even think of giving us different gear to strive for. I think they should do away with all that leveling BS too, it would be easier if we all started and were instantly at max power.
Some players argue its content, tbh i don't get why they're ok with gear score increases, sure its ok with them, for a time its ok with me as well, but I have to admit when im wrong tho, the fact is its driving MAJORITY of the player base away, ALL of the players in my guild quit because they didn't want to grind for a new gear score again, ALL I'm not exaggerating and each one of them grinded to 600 -> 625 -> 700 on loop each increase more and more players got tired of the same cycle, defend it all you want but the writing is in the walls at this point, it drives players away. doing the same mind numbing grind all over again for a small bump increase for the 4th time, no thanks, devaluing old content as well these devs are tone deaf.
@@geassmuffin on top of the shit show they've done to soil the games rep, a gear score increase aint gonna help, it works for other games because its well imemented. Using it as driving point to force players to do their new content because thats the only way you'd get the mats to craft for 725 isnt really making the overall progression good, why go do expeditions then when you can just go farm the raid.
I dont really care at this point, but the point is, its one of the big reason why majority of people quit, i didnt believe it at first but interacting with a ton of players and slowly realizing that all their reasons for quitting are the same, it aint fun.
@@FurianXO you literally said that he’s just gonna go play something that fits his playstyle like “everyone did 3 months ago” are you not part of everyone?
Get rid of gorgon mat requirements and don't timegate chromatic seals, and it could be alright. Too bad they probably won't do that. Thumbs up for great videos anyway.
true, but they dont do that...otherwise the grindy boys will be done with all the content in no time, getting bored again and leave the game - and they need to retain player numbers...
Hey Duke, could you make a video on the changes on the beta to combat? They included stagger for player attacks against pve enemies but it seems to work in pvp too with regular attacks. It feels extremely clunky.
Gorgonite gear does not require schematics. The Gorgon gear does. And there was a Gorgon's Cuirass on the TP on Maramma so at least that is in the game.
can you make a video on how to upgrade old artifact gear. I have every material required from NWDB but I'm unable to craft it, the crafting selection in the gypsum kiln says "unlearned" even though all materials are in my inventory (and not equipped).
Thanks for the great breakdown! Looks quite grindy and restricted to 2 pieces of content for the most part. Not sure this is the best direction for the game
The changes to gearing is the one thing I'm not looking forward to. Getting BiS gear was already enough of a grind. It doesn't seem like it'll even be possible to roll or craft the spear I used in my old build. Really disappointing.
Locked or not working.... Given the Gear Score weighting for weapons, it was, along with my chest piece, my quickest way to get my GS up. I have to assume it's a bug.
It seems very hard to upgrade 725.. hard raids and stuf... most ppl will never be able to get it... why progresion locked under hardest content in the game...
There is no information how it will looks like anyway, we know that Riad will have the 725 gear, we predicted that Artifacts will need to be upgraded. But with current info from You, we assume that this will be only way to get the new gear.. what happen with the expedition and mutations? What happens with the all old gear/items from that kind of activity. There is no clear info and we probably will not know this before 15 Oct. I checked the all recipes and this looks the same also Gypsum Kin recipes also got new 725 GS range...
Another great ideas from AGS. This game has pretty good crafting system, so make it useless... AGS is so bad I cannot even believe that as a programmer myself
Dont tell me all our actually gear will be usless on october 15th ? 😅 Even Artifact ? Because actual artifact are 700. tell me we can upgrade them to 725 please ???
M2+ dungeons should drop the same I have played for 2 years and have never even bothered with a raid, I don't play much pvp because outpost rush is horrible 3v3 is a joke been looking forward to this PVP zone now my PVP gear that's been sat there doing nothing and cost me hundreds of thousands to craft is now all useless, This entire dev team needs firing after the trolling vids leading up to there big announcement which was basically telling us they spent an entire year doing nothing and now all the gearsets from Rise of the angry earth are useless because there to lazy to make a way to upgrade them and how many sets of gear are there to choose from now 3? its a fucking joke
Am I the only one who thinks this is ridiculous? The amount of time and gold it will take to get just one build to GS725 would be what? 5 weeks minimum, provided you're willing to do both the raid and pvp island every week?
who is doing sandworm at this point? Does AGS think that console casuals will be doing that content? I have about 900 hours (which I know is not a lot relatively) and I've never done it, cause it's pain in the ass. You need to find 20 people, and even then you need perfect gear and food and know exactly what to do. If you don't know what you are doing, you just get kicked and there is no good way to learn the mechanics other than doing it.
I don't mind the grind but they made this way to convoluted! Their shouldn't be this many steps to crafting! Limit our crafts to 1 per week but don't make us go through 700 steps!
Tine gating the raid is so stupid. I was mad as hell that i could only do runes forge 2 times per week. Make a game and force people not to play it... especially since all other content is now useless... who the hell is gonna run Mutations when they drop outdated gear??
the details on gearscore, crafting, ingame obtainability,etc. (nwdb > details) is again underwhelming! Not looking forward to this, if all that garbage stays that way, i will try the game in oct. again (2500hours+) ... but i guess the flame cannot be ignited once more by me/ags :/
This is just like any update to gear score in like every MMO why do people act so surprised? There are few games where you can get absolute BIS by something other than playing the newest content. you probably wont even "Need" 725 to do the Raid so anything past 700 is just a bonus for PVE content and for PVP you obviously want BIS. But at least with this current system the hyper rich gamers wont just get BIS in a few hours after launch.
Devs just cannot stop themselves from adding useless bloat to grind. Completely joyless end game just got more grind and no real content. Clowns would be better devs than the current group. Devs steal "end game content" for the most lazy unthought-out DLC. Instead of undoing the FUBAR put in by the DLC and actually making some real content, the devs just add bloat. This time last year, the devs said they were going to take bloat out of the game. Instead, they added another level 5 mats, so 2 level 5 mats, 2 cool downs, and a ton of wasted time farming/ gathering. Devs too lazy to do the work to make the 2nd 5 level a level 6, so crafting and grinding craft level would be realistically worth the trouble. Any company with a shred of honesty and respect for customers would actually apologize for the DLC's theft, poor quality, and lack of content.... and then would have attempted to make the DLC worthy. Oh no, these devs move on to a cash grab from console players. One year of persistent poor quality, lousy play, and total disregarded and disrespect for customers. Amazon needs to pull the plug on AGS, because the brand is already trashed. I will never ever buy anything from AGS nor any company that employs the managers from AGS.
Forgot to mention the weekly OPR cache which also has a chance for 725, but no idea how high that chance is and the perks are fully random anyways: ptr.nwdb.info/db/item/pvpgm725rewardcontainer
how do i get this chest?
So after a 3 year alpha these devs still have learned absolutely nothing. Lmao how have Scot and Katy not been fired yet.
The hearing is the exact same. Barely any new perks. Small pool of weapons. Aggressive time gates. They've made no effort to make the game feel rewarding
i really cant hear anymore of there delusional dev videos
It feels like the devs are intentionally devaluing the rest of the content just to push endgame players toward the PvP island or the new raid. It's almost like they're forcing a lack of variety, making us grind only those two activities if we want to hit 725 endgame gear. Kind of disappointing that they're limiting the experience like this when there's so much potential in the game.
From what ive heard and read, this re-release of the game has been their primary focus for quite some time now. I would imagine that lack of added content can somewhat be blamed on that fact. Once this new variant of the game goes live next month with the update and console releases, they should then be able to move forward with the extra content. As for the update to the game, imo it feels like a polished game where before it felt no where near being a polished product when I played it about a yr ago. My one and only real complaint that I have found for the game after playing the open beta this weekend is that the gear crafting just has way too many variables for maxing your gear score per piece 😅
It’s pretty common with most MMOs that say expeditions cap at 700 well raids cap at 725. PvP hitting 725 is odd though
So every mutated expeditions are out of date, opr/arenas are out of date, and open world chest runs are out of date. So ags is basicaly sayin "here you go you waited a year for this, but all the content you bought is irrelevant now and all you will have to do to progress is that pvp island and that raid once a week".
Thank god i stopped caring long ago
Leveling to 65 is going to take almost 30% more XP according to nwdb's character level table. Going from 1-56 is actually faster but from 56-65 takes significantly longer. In total we'll need 400k more XP to hit 65.
Also weapon leveling is going to be much faster. The new XP required to hit level 20 on weapons is the same as the amount of XP it takes to currently hit level 15.
Not sure if these changes are just for the open beta or they'll stay for the Aeternum update. We'll see I guess.
Why bother grinding and replacing all our old gear and upgrading to 725 gear score? It wouldn't be worth my time or energy to return to New World because the changes they've made don't address the core issues that caused me to quit in the first place. Simply increasing the gear score from 625 to 725 without adding substantial, meaningful content means that the grind continues with no real payoff in terms of new experiences or fun mechanics. The lack of new PvE content beyond a single time-gated 10-person raid shows a failure to provide variety or depth, which is critical for keeping players engaged long-term.
Time-gating the raid to once per week, combined with a relatively low drop rate of 35% per boss for upgrade materials, feels like an artificial way to prolong the grind without offering real enjoyment. It forces players into a repetitive loop of logging in each week, hoping for drops, which can quickly become frustrating. Since I don’t play PvP, the addition of just one new PvP zone does nothing to enhance my experience, making the update feel empty for someone like me.
This is a classic case of poor game management, where developers focus on extending the lifespan of the game with shallow updates instead of fixing fundamental issues or adding engaging, diverse content. Without meaningful change, investing more time and energy in this game would just be a waste.
So what about Dungeons? Is it going to be pointless to run M3? 😮
for all old gamers (if you already have 700gs items) > yes, everything besides pvp island and the raid will be pointless! gg AGS!
I guess M3's will continue to be 700GS as it is the easier way to obtain high GS gear, but if you want the newest BiS, you'll have to do the most difficult endgame content there is, which is gonna be FFA PvP and Raids. I feel like M3's should at the very least give you like 700-715 though. But idk..
@@mightymort915 problem is why do even do M3s????? they were already nerfed in terms of Bind on pickup items :
That would be crazy, but they did that with the tuning orb arenas by not updating the drop pool to current gear score. Wild
Correct. Currently no M3 changes (and unlikely at this late stage). Note that all the new paths are heavily timegated. Also the min recommended GS for new raid is 710 (725 recommended). However given how time-gated 710 GS with reasonable perks is, people will run it with 700 BiS.
Also the schematics currently have a drop rate of 1 in 200 and I'm not sure but it might be limited so each boss can drop at 1 in 200, but once you kill that boss you don't roll again that week. Could well be wrong on that, but if so it means you can't spam (say) the first boss.
Yeah, gear score increase, sure, then what? The next update new gear score increase? Do devs even understand how hard is it to get gear? My god, this is completely out of touch. Also, time gating all those new items for max lvl gear - thats just the way to keep as many people online as possible. Very very stupid move, ain't nobody gonna spend month farming gear just to get hit by another gear score increase, basically making all your gear irrelevant and thus wasted month of life.
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I completely agree why would the Devs even think of giving us different gear to strive for. I think they should do away with all that leveling BS too, it would be easier if we all started and were instantly at max power.
Some players argue its content, tbh i don't get why they're ok with gear score increases, sure its ok with them, for a time its ok with me as well, but I have to admit when im wrong tho, the fact is its driving MAJORITY of the player base away, ALL of the players in my guild quit because they didn't want to grind for a new gear score again, ALL I'm not exaggerating and each one of them grinded to 600 -> 625 -> 700 on loop each increase more and more players got tired of the same cycle, defend it all you want but the writing is in the walls at this point, it drives players away.
doing the same mind numbing grind all over again for a small bump increase for the 4th time, no thanks, devaluing old content as well these devs are tone deaf.
What mmo doesnt do this is the better question? This is nothing new.
@@geassmuffin on top of the shit show they've done to soil the games rep, a gear score increase aint gonna help, it works for other games because its well imemented.
Using it as driving point to force players to do their new content because thats the only way you'd get the mats to craft for 725 isnt really making the overall progression good, why go do expeditions then when you can just go farm the raid.
I dont really care at this point, but the point is, its one of the big reason why majority of people quit, i didnt believe it at first but interacting with a ton of players and slowly realizing that all their reasons for quitting are the same, it aint fun.
Minor theory
They did it so both vets and new players are on the hamster wheel at the same time
Thanks for the video. I at least know now not to come back
If I can not upgrade my 700 gear, I’m done with New World.
Aweee, can’t adapt? 😂
@ you haven’t played for 3 months and you’re still watching videos on the game? Wild 😂 must not be that dead after all
Samen. Its only for multiplayer. Boring game
@@FurianXO you literally said that he’s just gonna go play something that fits his playstyle like “everyone did 3 months ago” are you not part of everyone?
@ and your still complaining wow
I just can’t wait to see what’s gonna break come the update 😂
my house buffs no longer work, all paid upkeep but keep getting alert that I have to pay it to have the buffs. update is total trash.
Get rid of gorgon mat requirements and don't timegate chromatic seals, and it could be alright. Too bad they probably won't do that. Thumbs up for great videos anyway.
true, but they dont do that...otherwise the grindy boys will be done with all the content in no time, getting bored again and leave the game - and they need to retain player numbers...
PvP needs a pathway to BIS 3 perk 725 gear as PvE has with the Gorgon Essence gear.
imagine current fresh world can transfert to the NEW fresh world created since they have the same ''FRESH'' tag i can see a big potential failur :D
Hey Duke, could you make a video on the changes on the beta to combat? They included stagger for player attacks against pve enemies but it seems to work in pvp too with regular attacks. It feels extremely clunky.
Love it ❤
Hey duke! Anyway to check if the gorgonite schematics are even in the game. Haven’t heard of anyone getting them.
Gorgonite gear does not require schematics. The Gorgon gear does. And there was a Gorgon's Cuirass on the TP on Maramma so at least that is in the game.
So this is AGS's Solo Action RPG with friends? Should be an Action RPG that you must have friends!
I was just about to write somethings quoting you specifically. But then you said not to quote you. So i had to erase it.
can you make a video on how to upgrade old artifact gear. I have every material required from NWDB but I'm unable to craft it, the crafting selection in the gypsum kiln says "unlearned" even though all materials are in my inventory (and not equipped).
It's bugged ATM!
Thanks for the great breakdown! Looks quite grindy and restricted to 2 pieces of content for the most part. Not sure this is the best direction for the game
The changes to gearing is the one thing I'm not looking forward to. Getting BiS gear was already enough of a grind. It doesn't seem like it'll even be possible to roll or craft the spear I used in my old build. Really disappointing.
So I have my coconut and all the parts for upgrading my finisher to 725, but the craft button will not come on. All the items are in the inventory ...
just read your comment, yes I have the same issue, seems to be locked?!
Locked or not working....
Given the Gear Score weighting for weapons, it was, along with my chest piece, my quickest way to get my GS up.
I have to assume it's a bug.
the old artifacts is upgradble to 725 gs in this new patch?
do we know what AZOTH INDUCTOR are good for now ? since its called gorgon inductor ? old inductor useless?
Going to make this easier “ already not an easy explanation lol
It seems very hard to upgrade 725.. hard raids and stuf... most ppl will never be able to get it... why progresion locked under hardest content in the game...
I leveled up my armoring and all profession to 250...and still cant craft 725 gs item?
So th old named gear 700 .can we upgrade them to 725 after update?
No.
What level can you goto the FFA island?
when you upgrade i assume it destroys your perk as well...
Want to upgrade my artifact to 725 with goldcursed coconut, but recipe says it's still 700.
You need the coconut and gorgonite inductor
There is no information how it will looks like anyway, we know that Riad will have the 725 gear, we predicted that Artifacts will need to be upgraded. But with current info from You, we assume that this will be only way to get the new gear.. what happen with the expedition and mutations? What happens with the all old gear/items from that kind of activity. There is no clear info and we probably will not know this before 15 Oct.
I checked the all recipes and this looks the same also Gypsum Kin recipes also got new 725 GS range...
The fact that you need pvp to get the coconut is bad for none PvP players, there should be another way
So the gear score increase is behind the new " content" of the pvp area
Care bears are not gonna be happy being forced into pvp to get gear cap
Another great ideas from AGS. This game has pretty good crafting system, so make it useless... AGS is so bad I cannot even believe that as a programmer myself
Dont tell me all our actually gear will be usless on october 15th ? 😅
Even Artifact ? Because actual artifact are 700. tell me we can upgrade them to 725 please ???
Yes you can
God they made it even more expensive to upgrade
thx
I will never understand this mentality to force you to play what they want instead of what we want.
M2+ dungeons should drop the same I have played for 2 years and have never even bothered with a raid, I don't play much pvp because outpost rush is horrible 3v3 is a joke been looking forward to this PVP zone now my PVP gear that's been sat there doing nothing and cost me hundreds of thousands to craft is now all useless, This entire dev team needs firing after the trolling vids leading up to there big announcement which was basically telling us they spent an entire year doing nothing and now all the gearsets from Rise of the angry earth are useless because there to lazy to make a way to upgrade them and how many sets of gear are there to choose from now 3? its a fucking joke
Am I the only one who thinks this is ridiculous? The amount of time and gold it will take to get just one build to GS725 would be what? 5 weeks minimum, provided you're willing to do both the raid and pvp island every week?
i craft 700gs 4pc gear ispend 400k+ gold, then next update make me 😢
So no 725 for PVE players… sweet.. that’s only over HALF of us..
who is doing sandworm at this point? Does AGS think that console casuals will be doing that content? I have about 900 hours (which I know is not a lot relatively) and I've never done it, cause it's pain in the ass. You need to find 20 people, and even then you need perfect gear and food and know exactly what to do. If you don't know what you are doing, you just get kicked and there is no good way to learn the mechanics other than doing it.
problem is not gear just 5 cons light opal set enough problem is people know nothing about mechanics . without shoutcaller its imposible for randoms
im so lost
so all my 5 perfect 700ersets dead?steal me month of work to build them.
I keep coming back to watch these in hopes they are making good changes to the game.... sadly.. they haven't.. this game use to be so good.. smh
The shitty ags desperation is at a high
Games upgrade system getting fucked with every update. Crafting is dead too. How can you fuck up this much its unbelievable.
Ags doing the same things over and over and expecting different results 😂
Games DOA with this grind
I don't mind the grind but they made this way to convoluted! Their shouldn't be this many steps to crafting! Limit our crafts to 1 per week but don't make us go through 700 steps!
Agreed the once per week is a drag
Tine gating the raid is so stupid. I was mad as hell that i could only do runes forge 2 times per week.
Make a game and force people not to play it... especially since all other content is now useless... who the hell is gonna run Mutations when they drop outdated gear??
wait a second..... a goldcursed coconut can only drop per player once per 7 days???!?!?! WTF IS THIS!?
Can’t wait to be disappointed again after 2 months of re re re release
the details on gearscore, crafting, ingame obtainability,etc. (nwdb > details) is again underwhelming! Not looking forward to this, if all that garbage stays that way, i will try the game in oct. again (2500hours+) ... but i guess the flame cannot be ignited once more by me/ags :/
This is just like any update to gear score in like every MMO why do people act so surprised? There are few games where you can get absolute BIS by something other than playing the newest content. you probably wont even "Need" 725 to do the Raid so anything past 700 is just a bonus for PVE content and for PVP you obviously want BIS. But at least with this current system the hyper rich gamers wont just get BIS in a few hours after launch.
Devs just cannot stop themselves from adding useless bloat to grind. Completely joyless end game just got more grind and no real content. Clowns would be better devs than the current group.
Devs steal "end game content" for the most lazy unthought-out DLC. Instead of undoing the FUBAR put in by the DLC and actually making some real content, the devs just add bloat. This time last year, the devs said they were going to take bloat out of the game. Instead, they added another level 5 mats, so 2 level 5 mats, 2 cool downs, and a ton of wasted time farming/ gathering. Devs too lazy to do the work to make the 2nd 5 level a level 6, so crafting and grinding craft level would be realistically worth the trouble.
Any company with a shred of honesty and respect for customers would actually apologize for the DLC's theft, poor quality, and lack of content.... and then would have attempted to make the DLC worthy. Oh no, these devs move on to a cash grab from console players. One year of persistent poor quality, lousy play, and total disregarded and disrespect for customers. Amazon needs to pull the plug on AGS, because the brand is already trashed. I will never ever buy anything from AGS nor any company that employs the managers from AGS.
Still the same game with the same issues 🤷♂️
imagine to show this stupid confusing upgrade system to console players. they will back to fortnite immediately 😂
So pvp is forced to run raids to upgrade mostly. GG RIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who else is ready for queue times 🥳🥳🥳
Wait a week, after they stop paying twitch streamers, then game will be a ghost town again.
@@MarkD-pl4fu Was pretty good, only had to wait when I first created a character and that was it, way better than before
They dont want this gane to be good for sure .