RANGE ROVER CLASSIC vs LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 3 OFF-ROAD CHALLENGE
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- Опубликовано: 2 сен 2023
- We put Erik's 1976 Range Rover Classic V8 Petrol up against my Land Rover Discovery 3 TDV6 Diesel. This is our biggest and toughest 4x4 off-road challenge yet!
You are joining us as we head into the Tricky Track in Elvedalen Off-Road area.
Which car do you think will do the best, watch it and let us know in the comments. I think they both did very well, but you will have to watch and see.
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One of your best 4x4 productions! Made even better with no music covering up the V8 and car noises. Thanks 👍🏻🙏🦘
The Land Rover motto is
“As slow as possible. As fast as necessary.”
Thank you Grahame! 😊 Coming from a long time follower like you that means a lot. 👍 I like that motto, keeps us driving home again after the off-road area.
Gotta love a V8!…who doesn’t?…😎👍
I know.... I need to own one, one day.
Fun track, well driven. The Classic takes the prize on this one, however once you gain more experience with the traction control the Disco will breeze it through better next time. Enjoyable video, thanks for sharing.
The tricky track is really fun and just challenging enough for us. The RRC looks like it's on a Sunday trip at some stages compared to the Disco so I think you might be right here. 😅 Yeah, was long since I had driven any off-road so I think a couple of trips in the off-road area and I should get a bit more used to it. 👍 Glad you like the video and thanks for letting me know! Simon
Nothing compares to a classic Range Rover off road. They got it spot on with the ability, and the noise. And it’s still the only car that has made it through the Darian gap !!!!!’ Keep up the good work
Thanks Rob and will do! 👍😊 Darian Gap you say, didn’t know that. Camel trophy? The RRC is the King of 4x4s and will always be the car to beat in my book. 😊
@@LandRoverDrivecape to cape. About 10 years prior to Camel Trophy. Great story! I have the book. But there are RUclips videos as well 👍😊
@@erikiversen4497 Nerdalert 😂😂 Nice, will have to see if I can find some clips. 😊 Is it the blue and white rovers with the long driving ladders on the roof?
@@LandRoverDrive correct 😊👍
Range Rover is the king of off-road! Especially if it’s a cheeky V8!!
AFAIK the maximum supported tilt angle is 35 degrees, although some forums say the real limit is near 45. But sitting in it the self-preservation instinct kicks in far sooner :) And if your significant other is sitting with you, she will kick you even sooner..
I don’t think I would ever dear to hit that 35 degrees limit. 😅😅 Especially driving the pride and joy and the car I’m depending on as my daily too. Can’t afford getting another one. 😅😅I think my wife would have been out of the car pretty quick at the beginning. 😂😂
@@LandRoverDrive I've taken my D4 to 42 degrees off road on a lean. It was not pleasant by any stretch! Looking at your lean from outside, it didn't look too bad, inside however your perception of the lean is very different and its a lot more scary!
Yeah, it wasn't a good feeling. It would be nice to test it out in a safe way, just to get the feeling of when it will eventually go over.
Brilliant video, thanks for taking the time and effort in undertaking it. Not often these days do you get the chance to see a classic Range Rover doing what it does best on a very Tricky track alongside a D3 is a perfect comparison of old vs new.
Thank you so much! The RRC is getting so expensive now so I think this will become a rarer and rarer thing to see. They are so well made and so capable so really fun to be able to go out and see it in action. I hope Erik will be up for more later. 😊 Simon
Fantastic Camera work Simon , Your personality shows in your driving, Cool under pressure , well done mate .
Thank you so much! 👍😊 I try to do my best both behind the camera and the wheel. 👍
Nice to see you back in your „natural habitat“.
The introduction to the traction control of the Discovery was quite interesting. But I also like the „old school“ Range Rover moving different, but always with elegance, and the V8 whispering „Yes, we can….“ Thanks!
It was good to be back! 👍😊 The TC on the discovery is really good, I just need to practice some more after not driving off-road in a while. And the RRC is just golden, love to see it on the tracks. Glad you enjoyed the episode! 😊
Always a pleasure to watch a Range Rover Classic do its thing off road. There really is nothing else like it.
Yeah, it’s something special about it. Love the fact that it really was made to handle this on a daily basis and also be a good comfort car. They really did something right. 👌
OMG RR Classic is far more capable than modern car! Amazing! I would get 4 door one because cheaper for some reason!
Yeah, I would love a red or blue classic 4-door. A white 2-door would be nice too. 😅 But as you say they are getting expensive and I can’t afford buying one at the moment. And it would need to be a project car too. 😊
Agree with you on this one!!
Please show the uncut video of the classic
Hello Marco, will not it down. There is a lot of good stuff and thought a nice drive through video would be nice. Music or no music in the video?
@@LandRoverDrive no music, the V8 rumble is enough.
@@marcoshd27 That is noted. 👍😊
A classic just oozing perfection!!
I would realy like too see RRC uncut version. Thank you in advance 🙂
Brilliant video - and love to see the classic - would be great to see the extra footage :) Erik's classic inspired us to get our '73 going to take the kids overlanding / off roading and camping - it's already proved it has a lot more talent on the tracks than me :) thanks again !
That is so cool! Glad the videos could be of inspiration, what I love about this, sharing the passing for car and overlanding! 👍😊 Will look into making RRC solo run with all the nice crisp shots. 😉
Super cool video! 🤩 Interesting to see how these 2 completely different 4x4's going through the track. The D3 with the independent suspension always feels a little bumpy, that's what I noticed driving my D4 offroad 😅, and the Range Rover classic with his solid axles with coils feels like driving a ship in the storm, always shaking from left to right. you almost get seasick. 😂
Again, great video, excellent work!
Regards Daniel
Thank you Daniel! And I totally agree, seeing how they handle the challenges is really fun and especially with the age and system difference! 👍 Yeah, the stiff IFS, I think thats why we thought the track had gotten more bump since the last time we were there. 😂 Thank you again! Glad you liked it. Simon
Love these type compare vids I try to do the save it’s always good to see the old originals up against modern technology!!
Great to experience your off roading! The RR makes it look easy.
I still miss my 1973 3.5 manual.
Must find another and get it very muddy 😊
Hehe, it’s so much fun to see it out there. There is something about old cars being out on the tracks. 👌😊
Before going off-road: detach the plow :D
And try to be more patient and insistent, as you stated yourself. More steady on the gas, let the TC kick it more often and do its job. Nevertheless, wet/muddy rocks are the worst besides (wet) grass.
But isn't it wonderful to do all that stuff and have the most comfortable drive home of all of them? I love my LR3.
Hehehe, I need to address the plow, wouldn’t feel so much as a tractor though. 😂😂
I was a bit rusty when it came to driving off-road and looking back while editing I can only guess I was a bit impatient. 😊 Need to get out and test it more, will try and do a winter test this winter. 👍
And I couldn’t agree more, in Norway we got so much tarmac so doing the transport stages is a dream in the D3. 👌 It will never be sold, only scrapped. 🤙
great skills and lovely to see 2 fine young lads enjoying that beautiful Classic. I had a 1985 Balmoral Classic manual 3.5 carb and am about to purchase my fourth 3.9 Vogue on a 1994 plate
Thank you bill! Always a great time when Erik brings his Classic. The 1985 is my favorite year, and is on the top of my list of LRs I want to own at some point. 😊
Fourth 3.9, I would be happy just to get one. 😊 A solid one here is getting too expensive.
RR Classic did an amazing job given the fact it has none of that fancy tech like air suspension or traction control.
Yeah, and it’s from the 10ths 😊😊 I still get amazed by how good it is and one of the reasons why I really want one for my self. 👌😊
Truly enjoyed your video and your team work. The RR Classic with coils and solid axles performance makes one question why they stopped building it. I'm still puzzled why you chose "Snow" mode when lower gearing is what you really wanted? As Eric showed us, 2nd gear, low range and go as slow as possible and as fast as necessary. Thanks again!
Yeah, I forced it down manually, is just starts in third when you have it in auto. 👍 But you can see me keep forgetting after being out of the car so I have to change down a bunch of times. The throttle response is cut in half when using snow mode so on these rocky sections on the entrytrack it’s perfect. Changed into rock crawl to get full lockup on the center diff when I started up the tricky part. And mostly first gear. 😊 That’s why you can hear the car revs juggle up the rocky sections. 😊 Glad you liked the video and we do have a lot of fun when we head out, and we do know each other well so the communication is effortless. 👍😊
Well they did build it through 25 years. And basicly a bit longer as wheelbase, chassis/suspension and engine is the same on the original Discovery that ended production in 1998. 👍😊
I'm old enough to remember reading about the Range Rover's 1970 introduction in Road & Track magazine. It only took another 20 plus years to get to Canada.
Great video. I love the Range Rover Classic.
Thank you Sam! I totally agree and want one as you noticed. Also want a p38, so I might have a LR-problem. 😅😅
@@LandRoverDrive Then I have the same problem 😃
@@RockmanDash I don’t think we are alone in this so that’s comforting. 😊
That Classic looks soo good off-road!
Yeah, couldn't agree more. 🏔️🚗👌
Loved this Simon. Looks like a fantastic day out. Hope you get your Classic. Had me looking for a defender!
Thank you so much and glad you enjoyed it! It was a great weekend and I can't wait for the next time we go back there. 👍 I almost bought a Classic yesterday but was to late and it was sold, see the community page for more on that, it was gold, only driven 4000km..... --> www.youtube.com/@LandRoverDrive/community If you are looking for a Defender I think I'm doing something right. 😊
@@LandRoverDrive shame about the classic. Looks amazing. I used to have a series 2a. Loved it. So yeap watching your video and looking at Autotrader fir a Land Rover 🤣. I have a 20 year old mini that is coming to the end so time for something else 👍
Hehe, I find my self doing the same thing after watching other youtube videos. Always come back to Land Rovers, the problem is just that I want all of them and can only afford one super cheap one. 😂
@@LandRoverDrive so with you on this
Great video as always Fellas. Good luck Simon with the hunt for the Classic.
Thank you so much! The hunt for a Classic is still on, but I do have a surprise coming later this year. 😉
Great video guys 👌 Two super capable vehicles 💪
Thank you! Appreciate it a lot! 👍😊
great video!
Thanks Bill! 👍😊
Cool tracks and great video guys. I have driven RR classics in offroad in both manual and auto V8 and a 200Tdi manual. Nothing beats the V8 auto offroad is my experience 👍🏻
Okay, V8 auto you say, so that’s what I need to get, a 4-door auto 🤔 Thanks for sharing your experiences Robert! 👍
@@LandRoverDrive I totally agree. I have a 1989 3.5ltr V8 auto and the "creamy" torque delivery of the old V8 makes it far better off road than a turbo diesel.
I almost bought and V8 auto last year, but I was just minutes to late...
Haven’t tuned in in a couple of years. Glad to see you guys still at it. Other commenters have a good point about the trailer hitch. Now, if you can somehow contrive to get your vehicles to America, oh, the places I could show you.
Hey and welcome back, there is a lot of videos you can watch now. 😂 Just passed 200 now. I would love to come over to the US at some point, but maybe cheaper to buy a car over there then to get my 3ton Disco freighted. A good LR3 over there, what's the price? 😊
@@LandRoverDrive Ikke peiling. I’m a jeep owner. I rarely see land rovers . They are mostly driven by real hot wives on city pavement, which is a waste. Of Land Rovers I mean.
@@mesquitoful Hahaha, a nice Rubicon would do perfectly. 👍😊
Hi Simon and Erik, I'm always happy when you post a new video involving this great RR classic. I almost feel home, the lanscape is very similiar to the one we have in Quebec (Canada) and your cool behavior is quite similiar to the people around here. By far, you're my favorite off-road-overland youtubers. I wish I could have a day with you in Norway, it' just beautiful. Thumbs up to this Ol'mustard RRC!
Thank you so much and I love getting comment's like this. You have just made my day, just sorry I haven't seen this comment sooner. Have been of RUclips for a while now, see the community page for a bit of info on that. Every time I see something from Canada I get the same feeling, it's so much alike. Wish to get over there at some point and experience it for my selv. Canada in a RRC, could you imaging the smiles. 😊 Favorite overland youtubers, going on the wall in my office! Best, Simon.
A couple of questions. what is the factory engine torque specs. peak, and at what rpm. of both the discovery, and the classic? would be keen to see how each is using the power at low speed. My guess is the classic has more low speed torque and also a lower final drive ratio. Also can you tell us what the min. and max elevation at the park is? Thank you. Great video. looks like you guys had a lot of fun. and gained knowledge of what each vehicle is capable of.
That would be very interesting, will get back to you on that. 👍😊 Max elevation is nothing to mention, just a small park. We had a lot of fun and we will have to go back again soon. 👍😊
I would like to visit that place . But only with army boots and a water bottle . Too hard for me . Did you know there is a track near RUDSKOGEN racingtrack ?
Hey Jostein and that sounds like a great day to me.! There is a lot of other cars driving around so good fun to watch. I know there is a track there and other places and they are on the "todrive" list. 😊 Just need to get around to driving them all. Have you been to Rudskogen, is it a good track?
Hei, spennende og interessante videoer. De har gitt meg stor lyst å kjøpe en brukt Land Rover. Fra før elsker jeg turer og camping, men å kombinere det med spennende off road skaper en ny dimensjon. Har du tips på hvilken range rover jeg bør gå for? Discovery eller Defender etc. ?
Hei og tusen takk! Det er mange å velge mellom her og jeg tror det blir avhenting av hva du skal bruke bilen til. Personlig mener jeg D3 er den beste bilen for overlanding da den er størst og har mest praktisk plass. Men veldig kult med Range Rover. Defender er også veldig praktisk bil å dra på tur med men hvis du liker litt comfort er det ikke bilen. 😊 Til offroad er nok kort Defender det beste. 😊 Så valg av bil som sagt basert på hva du skal bruke den til. 😉
Do you have some footage of those muddy Disco 2s washing at camp? I'd love to see more of the discovery's going offroad :D
Very little, we were focusing on filming this segment this time. I think I have like two clips but I will check. There are videos from Elvedalen from earlier where there is other cars. If you watch this one there is a d2 doing the tricky track: I would start at the beginning of the series but here’s is the episode: ruclips.net/video/heh7On12Ts4/видео.htmlsi=NvBwNDYtPOhhSym7
Great video really enjoy this content 😎👍 liked and subscribed!
Thanks man! 👍😊 You just made my day. Getting comments like this is what gets me going on making more videos. 🤙
@@LandRoverDrive same here buddy we’re all in the 4x4 community from a creator like me to you your doing good!! I love having a mix up of vehicles on my vids too!! 😎👍
Great overlanding !
Is it front diff or the central differential clunking on the Erik's Range ? I have the same noise on mine :)
Not sure, I think it’s the whole driveline. 😂 And the sum of it al makes it a bit loose. 😅 But Erik maybe knows better.
@@LandRoverDrive Thanks !
Excellent video and excellent team work. Really made me smile all the way around and so good to see how the vehicles need to operate differently with the D3 needing a little power to let the traction control system know it needs to kick in and the classic springs clicking like a mechanical monster around the track. Love the sympathetic approach to the track too. It's easy to just gun it and take your chances but you both did a great job and earned that cold beer for sure 😄👍😁 I need to come there one day😁
You definitely need to come and test it out! What could possible go wrong. 😂 Glad the video was entertaining, trying to up the entertainment level as I make more videos forward so good that it's noticed. 👍 We always drive like we love our cars, and taking some extra time and driving slow is what we have found works for us. That's why we like this track so much, it's very challenging but in a technical way and not in a deep muddy way. 😊 Thanks for a great comment Simon, appreciate it. Yours, the other Simon. 😉
Great video, very funny and interesting, great cars and drivers!!! the range rover's tires are non original? what kind of mesure are?
Hey and thank you! 👍😊 Don’t remember at the moment but will come back to you. If you watch the episode before this one it is shown on screen in the video. 😉 Maybe Erik will see and answer too. 👍
@@LandRoverDrive215/85R16. About a 31 inch tire. Cooper STT PRO 👍😊
Thank you@@erikiversen4497 I really like the height and tyres on your classic. I want to do the same on my 84 classic. I appreciate you sharing your measurements.
@@gabrielfalzon best looking tire size ever 😊👍
Traction control is there purely to make up for less suspension travel AND LR reluctance to fit axle locks. The latest cars, optimised for road use, would be abysmal without TC.
Off road, old school make continuous progress, whereas the current cars, spin wheels, stop, think about it, apply TC, move a bit, spin, repeat. I prefer old school, not the modern Luxobarge stuff which need so many computers to do an inferior job off road
I also prefer the old school off-road but I find the Discovery being a perfect middle way, good off-road and amazing for overlanding and as a family car. 👍😊 You got a rear locker on the D3, but it’s an optional extra. Mine is sadly without, but since I primarily go overlanding it will do without. 👍 But I will be looking into a old school 4x4, and a old Classic is high on the list. 😉
I realy enjoyed the video. Your enthusiasm is inspiring.
Btw. are there any modification on the Erics RRC like hight or diferential lockers and what tires is he driving on at what dimensions.
I hope that you will make more videos like this one.
Wish you all the best.
@aleksandaradler3194 Hey and thank you so much! Erik's RRC is not modified that I know of, I think he put on new springs but don't think there was a lift set, but I do think it raised it a bit just because the springs were a bit stiffer. Other than that it's stock as can be, no lockers or nothing. He has been driving offroad with his Cooper Tire STT PRO, mud-terrains that has proven them selfs in both in deep snow and mud. If you check out the older winter videos you can see how that went. 👍 The tires are 215/85R16 - We don't recommend them for winter use, only in deep snow off-road. 😉 Do you have an RRC your self or just very interested in them? Best, Simon
WINTER VIDEO LINK: ruclips.net/video/Lj0hIED3uJ8/видео.htmlsi=FWooBltMXtB2VfQ4 😉
You should take your tow hook off mate.
I know and I joke about it being my rear off-road protection but in reality it’s stuck on there. 😅 It’s on the todo list. 😊 Was going to take of the rear mudflaps as well but forgot and one broke. Another thing on the todo’s. 👌
That's my next 55 mins sorted 😊
🤙😊 Hope you enjoy them.
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Not just the darian gap but chaple gate stanage edge hollingsclough tenterhill gatsgarth pass wal na scar road and others in my mind and what I've driven its unbeatable is the range rover classic with the auto box
Would love to do Iceland in my own RRC at some point.
And I would like to see you do iceland also hopefully soon I will start getting vids up 3 a wk for 3 yrs of uk including norweigns I tuck over chaple gate and stanage edge
Thanks, UK is also on the top of the list. It may look like next year will be the year. 😊
Why did you sell the Land Rover Defender?
I thought it was the right thing to do as it was so much work to get it fixed and I wanted to be out overlanding and not stuck in the garage welding rust. 😅 I wouldn’t have sold it today, would have kept it and waited for when I got the time I think. But the positive side is that I’m open to get a different old car, almost bought one some days ago. If you see the community page you can see which one. 😊
Fin video, men ta av hengerfeste på D3’n neste gang 😂
Hahah, det er jo off-road-beskyttelsen min bak. 😂 Spare plastikken. Også sitter den godt fast. 😅
What’s the classic model what year
Hey, the Classic is a 1976 model, all rebuilt by Erik. 👍😊
If I can get 2 more extra free weeks this summer I’m coming to Norway and hopefully will do some tracks together.
Norway is worth two weeks and more. 🏔️🇳🇴😊 Just don’t go when the common Norwegian vacation is. So many people on the popular spots. 😊
Do I see a custom centre console / cubby box in Erik's range rover? neat solution! Would he be open to sharing any pictures/diagrams in exchange for coffee/beer money? 😉
That is much correct, not sure if Erik has some drawings but I will get him on here, he usually very happy to share anything he knows about LR’s and builds. 👍😊 Simon
Hmm was the Disco in Rock Crawl mode during the tricky parts?
Yeah, was using rock crawl at some stages to get the center diff to keep the lockup. 👍😊
@@LandRoverDrive Yup, Rock Crawl also has the most aggressive traction control too. It's very prominent on my Defender too even though I have the active rear locking diff. 👍
@@hege750 Okay, didn’t know that it also affected the TC, learned something new today as well, thanks. But that’s logical, but haven’t really thought about it the way. 🤓 I would love a rear locking diff for this kind of driving but I’m mostly going overlanding so can’t really justify the cost.
We call it greenlaning i was glass rep and we drive what are badly maintaited highways all them 2 parts only of uk worth going to northumberland and wales and its borders (glass website )
You say your thinking about heading to the uk i would not bother chaple gate shut rouch clough shut stanage edge shut tenterhill holingsclough shut plus 20 000 other lanes in the uk ( we do have some very boting green lanes its not worth the transportation here at all
Okay, are they cracking down on off-roading over there?
Ya just as I thought the classic definitely won hands down and a auto is even better
I heard about the auto from Robert, I almost bought one, but it got sold minutes after it was published. 1985 4-door auto. 👌
Likes the content but really dislikes the blasphemy
Hey and sorry for that, we don’t do it on purpose and there is no meaning in it from our part. I think it’s just a lack of English vocabulary and nothing else. 😊 I thought about cutting it out from the video but felt it took away from the feeling that were had during the drive. Again, sorry, and we will do our best to not do it again. 😊 Simon
Hi Simon, thanks for the reply. I really appretiate it. Have a lovely day further!@@LandRoverDrive
@@retiefstrydom257 Thank you and thank you letting us know. 👍 Wish you the best, Simon
That 2.5 tonn of discovery is far too heavy and its agile at all
It's heavy, for comp like events, but for overlanding it is one of the best options out there. 👌
My driveway is rougher than that
😂😂 Do you need to get up extra early to get to work then?
He is afraid of go fast. He should go faster to avoid stop every time. Drives like a coward.
We always go as slow as possible, we drive as we do so we can drive our cars back home again after. 😊