I believe it's just Ozone 10 and Neutron 4, but I've never tried it with elements. It still works as a stand-alone tool that you can use for referencing outside of your DAW.
The mighty Serban mixed those ref you asked and as far as we all know he hates automated processes! It’s better to mix and learn your sound so you don’t need references unless you have to reference the rough mix! You be the reference!
Nice one, you're 100% correct! I knew someone would get it. Love Serban. Where did you get that information from? I've looked everywhere to try and find out more about him, but the guy doesn't give interviews. I agree that you should reference yourself, though for someone working in less than ideal circumstances it's a great safety net. Good learning tool for someone starting out too. I only reference other material when an artist is chasing a particular sound. Otherwise I start with referencing the rough, then each subsequent mix iteration to confirm that it's getting better not worse.
@@SPLMixinghave u been following the big thread on gearspace forum? John Hanes his co - engineer has been active on that thread since 2 years now and he shares some ideas behind Serban’s mixing mindset! He also shares some jems but not straight forward how to mix tips but he kinda let them for us to understand and try! The thread is getting long! Im texting this twice cz i thought I replied once!
You can reference anything that you can sample through AudioLens, including short instrumental sections if you want. It will give you a good idea of what's happening and how your instrumental tonally compares.
Great video!! Can you do a video update on the Neumann monitors now that you've had the a while?...or just give some feedback. I'm ready to purchase and respect your opinion. I have no way to demo..
Love them! I can't think of any better alternatives in that price bracket that are unported. I'm not running a sub, but I don't think that you need it in the right room. It now takes me half as long to mix than it did on the Yamaha speakers. Go for it! When you get them, I'll send you some references to play.
@@SPLMixing Awesome! That's exactly what I wanted to hear. I'm also a fan of non ported. I feel it gives me a better window to the low frequencies and it sounds less boomy. I would be delighted to hear your references. I'm half way done with my revised acoustic treatment and I'll reach out when ready... thanks again!!
I don't see the value in having more than just a few reference tracks, which means the ones that are already being used for like tonal balance control or within ozone are probably enough.
It's very good at matching the tonality of individual instruments in Neutron too, something that I didn't have an example for. For me, it'll help me get closer to the references my client likes, which aren't always what I like.
@@SPLMixing Are you saying that you can run a whole reference track through this thing and then use that to apply to an individual instrument in Neutron? Or would you run individual instruments through it and then use their individual curves to apply to your individual tracks?
@@SPLMixing If you're trying to model a song that your client likes, you don't (typically) have access to individual tracks that you can run through this plugin. You might have access to a verse that is more sparsely arranged... I think maybe the next level, sometime in the future, of these EQ matching type plugins will be when you can run a two-track reference through them, as in a full song, and they pick out individual instruments that you can then use within neutron
@@MikeBrayton I'm sure it's on the cards at some point. The RX Rebalance module already helps in this regard, because you can pull bass, drums, vocals and other things out of a reference already. Personally, the Ozone 10 thing suits my needs, but if you really want to get at the instruments, multi tracks are the only way or an isolated passage of the instrument within a song. That said, the context that the instrument has within the mix is everything.
Great review and new sub: with Ozon 10 + Audiolense iZotope provides some serious AI-driven Mastering Software to the Mastering. And it seems to me to usher in a new era of AI-driven audio software in general, the possibilities of which cannot be foreseen as of today.
Sounds like it added way too much overdone unnatural sounding bottom end and at the same time made it sound just louder, way too loud which flattens out dynamics, so in my opin it might be ok as some sort of starting point to get in the ball park but using what it generated to my ear sound over done and unnatural I would still always use ones ears as the best tools. So in this case I would opt to use it in a non automated fashion as a comparison tool and then master to ear from scratch with my own custom chain.
@Y19' Resonate - Happy to look into this. I like the lapel as it allows me the freedom to move and provides good isolation from the music playback. What in particular annoys you?
@@SPLMixing I personally don't notice anything out of line. It's a little heavy in the high mid range but your not spiking or getting shrilly so I wouldn't worry about it. It's a clean audio signal that's all that matters
EXCELLENT WORK AND SONG TOO
For those that do not have Ozone 10, will this intergrate with elements?
I believe it's just Ozone 10 and Neutron 4, but I've never tried it with elements. It still works as a stand-alone tool that you can use for referencing outside of your DAW.
@@SPLMixing thanks, I will give this a shot.
Great video!
Thanks for the work on your channel.
What mike do you use to record? Really deep sound for a pin mike
Thanks, it's a Rode Laviller GO. Not particularly expensive, but the gear and plugins I'm running it through are 🙂
@@SPLMixing Thx for quick answer!
What plug-in do you use?
The mighty Serban mixed those ref you asked and as far as we all know he hates automated processes! It’s better to mix and learn your sound so you don’t need references unless you have to reference the rough mix! You be the reference!
Nice one, you're 100% correct! I knew someone would get it. Love Serban. Where did you get that information from? I've looked everywhere to try and find out more about him, but the guy doesn't give interviews. I agree that you should reference yourself, though for someone working in less than ideal circumstances it's a great safety net. Good learning tool for someone starting out too. I only reference other material when an artist is chasing a particular sound. Otherwise I start with referencing the rough, then each subsequent mix iteration to confirm that it's getting better not worse.
@@SPLMixinghave u been following the big thread on gearspace forum? John Hanes his co - engineer has been active on that thread since 2 years now and he shares some ideas behind Serban’s mixing mindset! He also shares some jems but not straight forward how to mix tips but he kinda let them for us to understand and try! The thread is getting long! Im texting this twice cz i thought I replied once!
I don't spend time on Gearspace, but I'll definitely check it out. Thanks for the tip 🙂
Thx for the review!
Would you recommend this mix reference technique for beats / instrumentals? Thanks!
You can reference anything that you can sample through AudioLens, including short instrumental sections if you want. It will give you a good idea of what's happening and how your instrumental tonally compares.
Great video!! Can you do a video update on the Neumann monitors now that you've had the a while?...or just give some feedback. I'm ready to purchase and respect your opinion. I have no way to demo..
Love them! I can't think of any better alternatives in that price bracket that are unported. I'm not running a sub, but I don't think that you need it in the right room. It now takes me half as long to mix than it did on the Yamaha speakers. Go for it! When you get them, I'll send you some references to play.
@@SPLMixing Awesome! That's exactly what I wanted to hear. I'm also a fan of non ported. I feel it gives me a better window to the low frequencies and it sounds less boomy. I would be delighted to hear your references. I'm half way done with my revised acoustic treatment and I'll reach out when ready... thanks again!!
I don't see the value in having more than just a few reference tracks, which means the ones that are already being used for like tonal balance control or within ozone are probably enough.
It's very good at matching the tonality of individual instruments in Neutron too, something that I didn't have an example for. For me, it'll help me get closer to the references my client likes, which aren't always what I like.
@@SPLMixing Are you saying that you can run a whole reference track through this thing and then use that to apply to an individual instrument in Neutron? Or would you run individual instruments through it and then use their individual curves to apply to your individual tracks?
Yes, you can take a snapshot of any audio including a short instrumental part and then match it's characteristics using Neutron 4.
@@SPLMixing If you're trying to model a song that your client likes, you don't (typically) have access to individual tracks that you can run through this plugin. You might have access to a verse that is more sparsely arranged...
I think maybe the next level, sometime in the future, of these EQ matching type plugins will be when you can run a two-track reference through them, as in a full song, and they pick out individual instruments that you can then use within neutron
@@MikeBrayton I'm sure it's on the cards at some point. The RX Rebalance module already helps in this regard, because you can pull bass, drums, vocals and other things out of a reference already. Personally, the Ozone 10 thing suits my needs, but if you really want to get at the instruments, multi tracks are the only way or an isolated passage of the instrument within a song. That said, the context that the instrument has within the mix is everything.
Is this better than Master assistant in terms of a finished mix?
It works with master assistant! Did you see how he used master assistant to match the Kacey Musgraves target that he captured from Spotify?
If you choose the right reference, I believe so. I always tweak them to taste anyways, though using a reference gets you there faster.
Thanks for the heads up
Great review and new sub: with Ozon 10 + Audiolense iZotope provides some serious AI-driven Mastering Software to the Mastering. And it seems to me to usher in a new era of AI-driven audio software in general, the possibilities of which cannot be foreseen as of today.
I`m curious when the "artificial intelligence" will start playing a gigs. Live.
100% this. spot on!
Does it work with ozone 9
I don't think so
Thx 4 Sharing ❤️
Great video! 🔥
God I love that song
Rance Lazarus - Somebody New (Releasing Soon)
@@SPLMixingPure 🔥
I preferred your mix......far more clarity
I can't install in my M1 :(
That's no good. Contact Izotope and ask if a fix is in the works.
@SPL Mixing I think i need to update my Os but this 256g toy is fully, Thanks anyway.
Sounds like it added way too much overdone unnatural sounding bottom end and at the same time made it sound just louder, way too loud which flattens out dynamics, so in my opin it might be ok as some sort of starting point to get in the ball park but using what it generated to my ear sound over done and unnatural I would still always use ones ears as the best tools. So in this case I would opt to use it in a non automated fashion as a comparison tool and then master to ear from scratch with my own custom chain.
Don't get me wrong I love your videos. But your microphone is killing me.
It's not terrible. Definitely higher register though.
@Y19' Resonate - Happy to look into this. I like the lapel as it allows me the freedom to move and provides good isolation from the music playback. What in particular annoys you?
@@SPLMixing I personally don't notice anything out of line. It's a little heavy in the high mid range but your not spiking or getting shrilly so I wouldn't worry about it. It's a clean audio signal that's all that matters
Sounds good to me, idk what Y19 is talking about
just why? To homogenise music further? no ty.
Not to homogenise, but ensure we're sounding more like the references that we like. Also good for mix translation.
Music consists of more than just loudness, frequency spectrum and width 😉
@@joseignasias8397 Yeah, you forgot dynamics 😜
My music has no dynamics. I Like sausage 😂😂😂
Haha 😂