Vladimir Kramnik Vs "OBVIOUS" CHEATER??
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2024
- The former world chess champion Vladimir Kramnik says he's playing an obvious cheater from India and "This cheater has no shame at all" with over 94% accuracy play. Welcome To "Titled Tuesday" baby!
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I never really appreciated how strong Kramnik is. I know he was a previous world champion, but 98% accuracy in a blitz game is crazy at his age.
LMFAO! You're using The Kramnik Card on Kramnik himself!!
@@ChessKingsTV777 oh I only just realized how that came across.
Its interesting obviously
pls kremnik is strong, but you need to remember the the guy was all ready cheating in 2006. in this day and age he is paranoid that people doing to him what he did to topalov and others.
@@chapasprojectwho was lol? Kramnik never cheated and beat that crazy bulgarian who was never good enough
Opponent plays 1.E4 (top engine move). Instantly suspicious.
E4 isnt top engine move some times
It prefers Things like D4 and Nf3 too
According to Stockfish 12,13,14,15 and even 16, e4 appears to be the top engine move.
@@TrolIBoy doesn't the latest stockfish prefer nf3? Thats just what I've heard before
King H1 early I’m the game was the suspicious move
@@TrolIBoy what depth
"ok, let's do the procedure"
Cheaters have to be reported. People even cheat below 1000 elo
@@Holop88 yeah but he reports almost everyone 😂😂
Opponent: I am from India
Kramnik: Oh boy, it's going to be tough
🤣🤣🤣
That OUUKH OOUUKH LMFAO! 🤣🤣
Old people are the favorite targets of scammers
@@charles2521grow up
Thanks man appreciating us@@charles2521
@@charles2521 says colonialists which looted and butchered innocents for centuries
"a broken clock is still right twice a day" or something like that
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Kramnik at 98% accurcacy? I think many people would find it *interesting*
Yea but before blunder white plays 1st line, in so many moves u know?
4:51 the best moment! 😄 How he laughs when he sees these 'interesting' moves. 😄
😂😂😂😂
great game from GM Kramnik, he has deep understanding of chess. He played on the dark squares
i mean thats not deep understanding thats just the entire point of the opening. but still great game from him
Good chess player: *exists*
Kramnik: "A cheater for sure"
His is absolutely right about cheating of his opponent in this game. Just notice how the quality of his gameplay changes from a 2800 GM to a 1600 rating player in the end game. Something needs to be done
So cheating apps stop working in endgames?
@@_nitin._.panwarof course those engines still work in the end games. However it would be difficult for cheaters to use them in time trouble especially when you have to feed them the moves manually and let them calculate the top moves.
@@_nitin._.panwar at some point you have to do something to lower your performance. if not you get caught immediatelly. the guy uploading this just got hype and wont stop until people get bored but it's just too stupid to differentiate when Kramnik is right or wrong. Probably if Naka didn't react to Kramnik's analysis he wouldn't have an oppinion on the matter. we are a product of the times we live I guess.
unless you mean 1600 fide, no way a 1600 plays this accurately, gameplay was easily above 2000 throughout the game( excluding the knight blunder).
imagine playing a 3000 rated Player and the position is drawn. Everybody would get nervous, and playing worse moves in time scramble is just cause of the low time. Man how delusional people are. If Kramnik wouldnt have commented, noone woulf have said opp is cheating. people, believe the supergms not kramnik.
Im so happy for Kramnik that he fianally found a real Cheater
he is still not banned tho
The opponent is praneeth vuppulla, he is an Indian GM, he is only 17 yrs old, he may be reaching his prime
I am FM from Ukraine and i have 2300 fide. I have played aganist this IM OTB and he plays like sh@t@@arunjames3208
@arunjames3208 I think his prime will be when Stockfish 17 comes out.
He didn’t cheat though what are you talking about
he is prraneeth vuppala and he become GM now . people need to understand that every young IM is not have to be weak may be they are just in their way to become future GM .
Hhhhhh even with blunders is 92% accuracy 😂😂 Really chess without Kramnik is completely boring. I really enjoy the Kramnik streaming reactions.
His analysis at the end 😂
"When he had no time to look around" 😂😂😂
The opponent hanged a knight at the when there was no time to look at moves and alternate screen obvious cheater
His opponent is a GM now.
For real???
an INTERNET-GM tho who loses every otb game against an enemy greater than 1200 elo
@@MMAengineer No... His name is Prraneeth Vuppala. He's an Indian Grandmaster.
@@anthonyD.3839 p@jeet cheaters 😅
@@MMAengineeryou can only get gm title via otb achievements
Jokes aside, but some Kramniks opponents were actually cheating
Fr, especially these FMs and IMs
Very true some of them were cheating but he accuses just about everyone that beats him 😂
True
I believe everyone would find this interesting
Okay genius 😂
Obvious cheater? It looks like he just obviously lost. He didn't even play that great of a game!
no good player would hang that last piece. you see the king coming three moves in advance. that's lowering the game precision on purpose
Idk I actually agree with kramnik on this one.
if you look at this reality-stone's guy's profile, he only has like 12 or so games, and he draws alireza and another gm, and almost draws kramnick but time got short and he couldn't use the engine. 100 percent a cheater. His 3 games vs gm's have above 90 percent accuracy and are all against gm's.
His 3 games vs gm's have above 90 percent accuracy and are all against gm's.
Since he is also an IM how isn't he supposed to play good and accurately?
@@epictech9158 difference between normal IM and top GM is as big as me(1200)vs IM
@@Dezu123 This is absolutely untrue. An IM could give you queen odds buddy.
@@Leipaa yes but im not talking about it, amount of knowledge and understanding of the game between me and IM is close to IM to top GM. Im not talking about that IM is shit player or anything like that or I would have chances without a queen, clearly no. What Im talking here is that f.e. lets say player is 2400. Its easier to get from 2000 to 2400, then from 2400 to 2800. Every next step you need more knowledge to go higher.
Kramnik's confirmation bias is just painful to watch. Already suspects a cheater from the start and every decent move by his opponent is evidence for his delusions. He ends up getting a pawn up endgame but of course it's only because opponent had little time so he couldn't cheat anymore 🙄
I mean there is no winning with this guy. You either lose in the middle game to him or you are a cheater I guess. Because no human opponent can compete with Vladimir fucking kramnik in blitz chess, give me a break.
Kramnik and Nakamura are like this: "If the opponent beats me and it's not at least a GM, it's a cheater."
Which in 99.9%of cases is a reasonable conclusion to make
@@lwognrkwingbt only if you are 99% stupid or 100% arrogant not to accept you can be beaten by weaker players every once in a while.
@@danieldbdb This has to come from a person that doesn't understand how elo distribution works and maybe confuses inflated online rating with OTB rating. This reality stone dude is about 400 elo points lower rated than Kramnik in Blitz Chess in official FIDE ratings.
The rift between the two is so great they might as well be playing in entirely different leagues. In fact they are normally, just not online.
So even If you don't like Kramik (I don't share his opinions either) he is absolutely right here, if you do the math he should stand no chance, and chess is not a sport where one can simply just "get lucky".
In fact, he is so much worse than Kramnik that the stats would give you a 99.5... % winrate against opponents of his rating level. This is not a Chance (again, chess is not a game to "get lucky") but an expected outcome. So for him to just show up and beat Kramnik badly is indeed very suspect.
@@MCoTEDDY Actually I like Kramnik, but I remember late 90s or early 2000s when they would eventually be upset by an IM for example and wouldn't come up with lame excuses of cheating, simply because they couldn't.
I online even lost to a person 400 points lower and I think it wasn't the other player's fault.
Players can be deceived and get paranoid with this cheating thing.
Actually, this Reality Stone guy is a GM.
He was insinuating before the game even started
Please more vlad and hans lfg baby
Kramnik is ancient Russian for "He Who Can Easily be Trolled".
Just because you are paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you
Clearly a cheater
This ,,cheater" is now GM
Kramnik with The Microwave Opening
The oponent is using computer, but when its out of time, he star playing his own self.
U never know , also check the game he played before saying he aint playing top engine moves
Also the. Opponent he. Is playing is indian gm now. , he is somewhere 19 years old.
When he had no time to look around.😂😂 lmao Kramnick is soo unironically funny without trying.
Kramnik is in the position that even if I would get him I would cheat just to make him mad :D
Is it unreasonable for an IM to play a game above 90 accuracy? Usually cheaters have a very consistent time usage, but this guy actually took time to think in tense positions. Kramnik even accused Hikaru of being a cheater and I respectfully think he might be paranoid. Just because someone plays one match above their usual level doesn't automatically mean they're cheating.
no viste el final de la partida???
qué daño le hizo al juego la función de evaluación al final... todos miran el número nomás, no usan dos neuronas.
@@santiagomorales9899opponent is a GM now... So think logically..
One time i played someone with 700 elo and i ended up trapping his queen without knowing i was 400 elo (blitz) at the time and in the game review it said i played like a 1000 elo player in conclusion we all have that match that somehow went really well
The irony is that this cheater probably never actually had a 45 no lose streak against Gothamchess clones
I like his commentary
You must report when you sense someone is cheating.
6:15 - guys pls let me know, I've no idea why Black didnt take the bishop to check - take the knight after that? Have no way to solve it atm
because the f6 knight is hanging
It doesn't check
Its crazy funny how world champion and one of the strongest players to ever live became a meme. What a wild times to live on 😂
Здравствуйте, Владимир Читерович!
The camera angle is not quite modest.
Yes those 2200 plays better then Magnus. It is really true. 90+ accuracy online. In real they are still 2200
Sometimes I play 97+ in games around 15-20 moves. I'm 1700 on lichess
Lol on Kramnik 😂 someone got burnt 🔥
It seems like cheaters wouldn’t cheat against him no more they know he calls everyone a cheat
It is actually the other way. Because he calls a lot of players a cheater, cheaters will comfortably cheat in his matches.
Vlad's marbles are gone.
This is a must watch LMAO!!! KRAMNIK STARTS LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY AFTER HIS OPPONENT MAKES A GOOD MOVE!!!
94% accuracy is pretty much okay for a grandmaster and how would a cheater lose to begin with? If it was a bot, GM Accuser would've lost badly.
Nope....when time gets low they don't have time for the computer to evaluate and for them to relay it.
This is one of the ways you can for sure tell if someone is cheating.
Their accuracy goes down when pressured with time.
But the opponent is GM as well now.. So he actually might be better player then current kramnik @@chriskeith5742
@@chriskeith5742doesn’t literaly every human being accurately decrease with less time
Like Magnus playing in classical might be 99%
But in hyper bullet like 94%
The people who think that IM was cheating, I have news for you, if he was Kramnik wouldve never landed in a drawn position against him.
98% accuracy, I must say this is statistically unlikely. Very interesting.
If opponent plays higher accuracy than him, obviously cheating, let's do the procedure. If his accuracy is higher than his opponent, obviously due to time pressure he cannot look around, but anyway let's do the procedure....
6:35 My God Absolutely no shame 😂😂😂
After the match Kramnik banned himself for this win😅
4:54 who else also laughed here with kramnik?😂
Putting Indian flag on thumbnail and saying obvious cheater. Know very well how to play games with viewers. Yes may be the guy was indian. Atleast don't make things difficult for 90% of the honest indian chess players out there.
Puts a Rook on the 7th, must be cheating, no one would come up with that move on their own. 🤣
This is a historical and real time example how a former genius is going insane.
This guy accuses everyone of cheating. Obviously his opponent was not cheating.
Opponent is an 82 GM from India...next kramnik will accuse magnus of neuralink implanted in him
Who do you think you are? The only one who can play good game.
very interesting
😂 в очень сложных ситуациях где надо было просчитывать 5 разных направлении с глубиной 5-7 ходов он сразу ходит верно, а в эндшпиле где 1 простинкий вариант с глубиной 3 хода он просчитать не в силах🤣, он точно читер, просто спецом слил игру понимая кто перед ним
boy who cried wolf lol
My favorite chess player is Kramnik, dont know his personality, but I like his playing style
I mean you guys make fun of him but if he accuses everyone one of them is actually cheating
His opponent didn't do any special moves, I think I could do the same
you would lose 1 million out of 1 millon games against kramnik without even the slightest chance, this is the gap between you two.
They don't look special you say lol. It's like saying I can press those keys to a pianist. Even the slight change in the opponent move could have costed him the game, which is what happened in the end game. Most moves look okay to low elo players, but GM's can see many moves ahead and understand how each move is improving the position, that's why Kramnik laughs whenever he sees the opponent using computer ideas, that don't feel natural and no one would even consider to play when there are far more natural continuations, imposible to understand if you don't know what a natural continuation at their level is
Sorry, not that far into chess, could someone explain? I would appreciate it, thank you 🙏🏻
kramnik often accuses people of cheating even though they aren’t (some prolly are). this is player wasn’t cheating and he accused him of it anyways. he’s now a GM meaning he has won a certain amount of tournaments at a high level over the board. 👍
Not nice laughing at an old person losing his marbles....
LMAO! Kramnik is still the same guy he's not losing any marbles, you just didn't know him before 😂
98 Accuracy from Kramnik???? Why is he hackustating given his own performance?
Obvious apophenic
But why does he accuse him of being a cheater if he loses? If he was using the engine, he would have lost Kramnik. I'm right?
Both yes and no. When in time trouble, the cheater doesn't have time to check moves with the engine, starts panicking and makes an obvious blunder as he did in the endgame with seconds left. The level of the cheater's play is going drastically down while in time trouble.
@@o.abdullayevbut this guy's not a cheater thats one thing so yeah no. Every chess player struggles at less time even magnus blunders his queen at bullet. But your point still stands
kramnik is my favorite player, on the board
OMG, it is so Obvious, it it is a SHAME!!!!
So, has Vlad got an entire wardrobe of these pink teeshirts, or does he wear them all week?
now i get it why kramnik is so pis*ed
Kramnik, ur opponent LOST ! You consider this as CHEATING???!!! Maybe it’s time for u to realize u r no longer the same player who defeated Kasparov!
Kramnik got another cheater. Despite all the lame comments that's true. We need no cheataru and like that.
Ra6 Ra7 Ra6... and then at the end just loses a knight in front of the king
all these moves make sense. and the blunder at the end - u really think a im would do that? obviously either mouseslip or brainfart
Interesting
So I think Vladimir kramnik has the most obvious choice to voice his opinion just the slim decency for this comment to load. #fairchance #cheating#doyouknowtheway
hmmm. Interesting
Don’t think his opponent were cheating though. Most of his move were reasonable moves that a lot of strong player should be able to come up with. His endgame was sloppy probably due to him not used to short time format or he is just a slower player
Nah man he was cheating, the level of play dropped pretty badly
@@shauryasingh1308yes he played top engine moves if engine moves can lead to analysis of high accuracy because analysis done by engine too…he lost because of time factor normally this happens when cheating …cramnik is right..
@@antomichael5489 yeah that’s what I was agreeing to
How do people even cheat on chess ?
By using chess software (called chess engines) to find moves
The game has just started and he's already accusing the guy of cheating with zero evidence. WAPOS.
His opponent played the endgame like a 900 and blundered a knight, he is definitely cheating, and of course that flag raises suspicion just by mere pattern recognition but he didn't want to say it
Ive played games with 96 accuracy. I ve never cheated. I play for fun
Opponent:
Kramnik: cheater
hahahahaha
russians: they're all cheating except us!
also russians: (eat meldonium at every olympic games tournament)
interesting
Cool
I like chess even though I’m not any good and people cheat badly at 900 rating. It’s ridiculous. Bout every 3rd game I lose to someone who ends up with a 90% accuracy or they wait until middle game and make 5 best moves in a row.
Looks like a cheater for sure
"Definitely above 90 before the blunder" (implying the guy is cheating)
"Mine should be more than 90". So...
So what?
@@reinagabarrete2315he says having accuracy above 90 is indicator of cheating. Then Self Owns by saying his accuracy should be above 90. Indicating he’s also cheating. 😊
@@kizzyle5989 maybe because player has 400 elo lower than kramnik and plays ideal game till the clock runs out? check out how elo rating is formed and mathematic expectation to draw or even win against 400 higher opponent
You live in a cave? Kramnik is known to being one of the strongest and most accurate players in history.@@kizzyle5989
battle for the worse internet connection
How does he know from the beginning that this is a cheater? He says "IM, from India, ooh, it's going to be tough", so he clearly implies cheating from the beginning.
You're brown and seem to take a big offense to that.. I take it you're from India? lol
Kramnik is a cheater
Kramnik 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
Jesus loves you guys
I don't know maybe it was a cheater. But always putting Indian flag in the thumbnail and saying *"" cheater""** is like a common way. Cheaters are from all other countries. Put other countries flags too when making cheater**** video next time.
1- always putting Indian flag in the thumbnail and saying "" cheater"". => I've shown the Indian Flag only 2 times.
2- Put other countries flags too when making cheater** video next time. => I already did, I showed the Spanish Flag and American Flag in the thumbnail.
=> If you checked my other videos you would've seen that I posted the Indian flag in a positive way too for example "Pragg DESTROYS Ding Liren" video.
If i ever play Kramnik i will cheat for the content 😂
Kramnik’s Chess is so Mind Bendingly Boring that anyone 2100 or above has a good chance of scoring high enough on the “Best Move Meter” to give the appearance of impropriety. 🤮. On the flip side he’s rapidly becoming the “Phil Helmuth” of Chess and nothing is more entertaining than to watch Phil lose his mind after a hand.
His play was not all that brilliant.
I'm being a 2450 on this platform, haven't noticed a single hard or brilliant move from both sides during the game!
I don’t really think he cheated
in real life i'm 2250
@@einerzartenFIDE ID please)
@@einerzarten candidate master?
and kramnik is 2750 "in real life" so you have no understanding of what he does and the opponent played 3600 elo moves@@einerzarten