Still really annoyed about the protests that shut down the REM de l'Est portion of the project. I live close to where that line was being proposed and really wanted that route close by. If there's ever a rally in support of restarting the project, I would certainly join it.
The East proposal was "protested" because it was poorly conceived, competed with the existing Green Line and no one wants an elevated train cutting through their neighbourhood (see the existing Autoroute 40). The Montrealers on the East side voted for the Pink Line.
@@donk4304 This is all misleading or outright wrong. For one, the REM de l'Est didn't "compete" with the Green Line, it would've completed the transit network which is severely lacking in the area. The Green Line would still not only continue to receive existing ridership from areas but also gain new riders from the connections it would receive. Furthermore, the Green line is saturated (which will only worsen) and has a high station density, making it slow from end to end. Whoever says the REM Est would've "competed" with the Green line has no understanding of how transit works. Also, never compare an elevated train to an elevated highway. One is 5-10 metres wide and provides efficient transit to areas that need it. The other is 30+ metres wide, requires the demolition of neighbourhoods, pollutes the air, remains noisy 24/7, brings car traffic to the surrounding areas and is generally poorly designed when considering anyone not in a car. Elevated trains are also cost-effective and realistic, unlike fully tunnelled metro, which is why the REM line A was able to cover such vast distances in its network while costing barely more than the Blue line extension. The Pink Line was exactly what you described the REM de l'Est as; poorly conceived. It was a fantasy plan made up by a politician to gain votes. It would have cost a ridiculous amount to build, for one, and the areas it covered were completely idiotic. Half of its run would be pointless, as it parallels both the Orange and Green Line and centers the metro around the downtown area specifically (which is exactly what transit shouldn't do). The REM de l'Est was an infinitely better design and one that actually would have been built. It was killed off by people who don't understand anything about how cities work or operate. The usual in North America, unfortunately.
Oh...I cannot wait to see your faboulus editing skills on this one! I just wish we didn't have to wait 2 days for it, but I'll be patient, because you are the best channel in ALL of RUclips! Can't wait to see your next masterpiece Chris! Much love and respect to you my friend!
Thanks Chris for this fantastic followup to your previous one: The REM is coming. The REM is now here and this is only the beginning. Phase 1 now rolls across the sublime Samuel-de Champlain bridge. Phase 2 will roll through the very long and dark Mont Royal tunnel under the eponymous mountain that defines Montréal and which gave it its actual name. Phase 3 will finally roll to and from the fast-expanding Dorval airport through which transit most of the international tourists and visitors. Each phase should be just as, if not more, exciting than the previous one. It's a really great project and this equally great video helps us to understand why. NH
Congratulations, another well edited video with a balanced analysis of the project. The only thing missing are the beautiful footage of Montreal and the Champlain bridge at night.
The REM (Réseau express métropolitain) is an automated light metro rapid transit system, opening in phases between 2023-2027. First proposed: 2016 Began construction: 2018 First phase: July 2023 Second phase: 2025 Airport branch: 2027 Stations: 26 Total length: 67km Train type: Alstom Metropolis (Automated) Top speed: 100km/h Cost: C$7.95 billion
thanks for the video ... i use the REM everyday ... very efficient , fast and fun .... I grew up on a canadian base air force where fighter jets (F-18) planes were taking off 24-7 , our brain get used to the noise .... People in Griffintown live next to the VIA rail trains and other trains plus Ville MArie high way ..... I used to live around Square Victoria and firefighters were out almost everynight ... in 2023 , people are egocentric and stupids
Wonderful video. Just absolutely great 👌 I'm so happy to see that my excitement for the REM is shared (and my sadness for the cancellation of the REM de l'est is also shared). Thank you for your work! Your videos really always give us reasons to be proud of our metropolis : )
people who complain about REM noises in Griffintown forget to mention thay bought condos where a CN track had been pressent for 100 years. The Via rail trains make a clunking noise and they have poluting diesel engines
I live in Griffintown, the problem is that we get the sound and no station when we were promised a station. We already don’t have a metro station and were let down by them scrapping our rem station
That’s amazing. Canada is making great strides towards pedestrian and cyclist friendly cities in all their metros. I hope we start taking notes for cities in the US. Changes are beginning to happen in some cities but we have a long way to go. PS NIMBY’s suck!!!
They should keep building as originally planned, and then bulldoze all around the REM rails into parks and bicycle lanes and relocate the people. So that way nobody will complain about the noise.
Montréal already had a bad story of a massive eminent domain to build a visionary airport in Mirabel in 1975 for passenger transportation. It turned out that they only used about 15% of the land they took from private owners and the airport terminal was used for only 29 years before being demolished. So every time we say eminent domain in Montréal for large infrastructure people get really defensive.
😂😂 To those saying they can't sleep and now goto move. Perfect example of why we in Canada don't have a good transit connection system. Then they wined, we want to be World class city! Cities need more of those fast trains, if people are to leave cars at home, or get rid of them. Saying its a rapid transit, and it stops at every intersection isn't rapid transit. Also don't get me started on getting new boring machines, when you already got one.
You are right ! Métro is short for Métropolitain , Underground = Under the ground and Subway = Subterrean way. All metro , underground and Subway are like Sewer surfing. At least with the REM you can see outside while traveling.
Great video! As someone who don't live in Montreal, there is a couple things I find ans downside of this project however. First, I don't like the idea of the seats positioning...I mean, I know it's a rapid transit, but even on rapid transit I sometimes like to just seat and watch through the window behind me. Second, it would be better if it got extended towards more distant suburban settlements...because exo trains are quite infrequent generally and buses get stuck in traffic.
We can fianally defeat the billionaire with a limo ! He will be on one side of the mountain near station Édouard-Monpetit, wait for his car , 35 minutes later , be at McGill station while the poor man that I am will have taken 3 minutes by REM
They got a lot right with the REM. But how is it acceptable for a new multi-billion dollar transit system to have hard plastic seats that cost about $1.23 each? 21st century tech with 19th century 'comfort'. :^/
@@DiscoverMontréalGlad someone likes them. As an older gent, I grew up here in Montreal in the days when all transit had padded seats, and you could ride any long trajectory without getting a numb bum. Never noticed them to be particularly dirty. But maybe they should put Azur seats in airplanes and hotel lobbies, and we'd all feel better about their cleanliness. :^D
easier to cleaning with plastic seat, while raining day or snowing day it is not really fun to sit on wet cotton seat look like if someone pee on the cotton seat
@@vkobevk Good to know you like the hard plastic seats - may your bum enjoy. Don't ever go on an airplane or intercity train, you'll be afraid of pee. I grew up with Montreal buses that had thick padded vinyl seats. They were soft and comfortable, and I doubt they were harder to clean.
@@pbasswil who say i love to sit on airplane seat? if you enjoy this vomit spot place good for you 😊 well montreal intercity train is like one train every 2 hours so it is so bad, rem is every 10 minutes, so the rotation is faster on the rem train, not so much time to clean up the train, it is like the bus and the metro and anyway majority time you stand up, so it is not like you have opportunity to sit except now when they dont chose hard plastic they chose this dirty cotton seat and sorry while rainy or snowy day it is not enjoyable to sit on wet cotton seat it is like if someone pee on your sitting place
I’m from to Toronto but I lived in Montreal for 2-3 months. One of my favourite things about the city is the amazing metro! Bar none, the best transit system in Canada, hands down! They’re fast, comfortable, and frequent as hell! And there’s cell service! The REM is truly amazing and it’s the most amazing transit project in Canada! It will change the city forever and for the better! Felicitations Montreal!
As a lifelong Torontonian, I’m envious! Salut to Montreal…way ahead of Toronto’s God-awfully slow transit expansion (the umpteenth-delayed Ellington Crosstown anyone)? Definable want to ride this…my next Montreal visit!
@@OdinWannaBe The point of a company is to make money.. If you want to pretend you run a company, start a non-profits and lose all the money your heart can content.... Another one living in lalaland... They crying for nothing and are just ball buster! Everything they said is false...
Super happy to be a part of this project!! Thank you for showing how incredible the REM is, I'm so happy I was able to help in this!! Very well done video
As far as the noise go, I think that there are multiple problems, and that the blame is shared between multiple parties. For starters, theses peoples moved in next to the track. They really should have expected some level of noise. The bigger issue is the fact that Montreal allowed contractors to build theses buildings to be built in the first place. Montreal really should have required triple glazed windows in buildings next to the train track. The siding of the buildings should have been made of materials that can absorb sound.
Im glad tho, the public infrastructure is way more important than some corps rats trying to make banks on basics necessity, the populations > your personal profits.
I sleep with my windows open right next to a major bus corridor down the street of a Metro station, next to a stop sign no less. So i get to hear buses accelerating all day and night. I stopped noticing it years ago. I'd love a little electric train that only passes during the day. NIMBYs are just big cry babys. Especially that man-child, Drew with his two earplugs (how do you wear two pairs of earplugs 🤔) and pillow over his head.
Big cities in the Canada and the US are extremely behind big cities in Europe and Asia when it comes to public transit. Our transit systems are not as dense nor as long. Generally speaking this is a very good step in the right direction. I much prefer taking public transit if it is more practical and faster than using a car. If you live in a densely populated area like Montreal then it's kind of insane to be dependent on a car in order to get around. Especially when traveling to/from work.
US cities definitely lag behind metros in cities abroad as many Americans want the freedom of driving the automobile and fares on these metros are getting more expensive.
The REM looks great. I'm looking forward to going to Montreal and trying it out. I know a lot of people are disappointed that they REM de l'Est is not being built, but I think if they change the plan a bit and make it better, it will be accepted too. Montreal, generally speaking, has an east-west downtown. It's much easier to cross it the way the original REM is doing that to go along it. By doing so, one would need to tunnel through long distances, at least up to the Jacques-Cartier Bridge. If it was closer to the port, it might work that way, or if the line north of Mount Royal split and had a part going east along the Metropolitan highway, that might also work too. Anyway, this is a big accomplishment for Montreal and I believe that REM's can be built in the suburbs and serve downtown Montreal and eventually, each other. Congrats Montreal.
That maybe the only transit railway in America that take you from downtown MTL to Panama in 15 minutes! ! ! Wow! No Boeing, No Airbus only the REM could do it. - So maybe you should rename the station to Brossard something not to confused Americans.
Still really annoyed about the protests that shut down the REM de l'Est portion of the project. I live close to where that line was being proposed and really wanted that route close by. If there's ever a rally in support of restarting the project, I would certainly join it.
Same for me
we should make one ourselves
The East proposal was "protested" because it was poorly conceived, competed with the existing Green Line and no one wants an elevated train cutting through their neighbourhood (see the existing Autoroute 40). The Montrealers on the East side voted for the Pink Line.
why isn't the pink line happening then@@donk4304
@@donk4304 This is all misleading or outright wrong.
For one, the REM de l'Est didn't "compete" with the Green Line, it would've completed the transit network which is severely lacking in the area. The Green Line would still not only continue to receive existing ridership from areas but also gain new riders from the connections it would receive. Furthermore, the Green line is saturated (which will only worsen) and has a high station density, making it slow from end to end. Whoever says the REM Est would've "competed" with the Green line has no understanding of how transit works.
Also, never compare an elevated train to an elevated highway. One is 5-10 metres wide and provides efficient transit to areas that need it. The other is 30+ metres wide, requires the demolition of neighbourhoods, pollutes the air, remains noisy 24/7, brings car traffic to the surrounding areas and is generally poorly designed when considering anyone not in a car. Elevated trains are also cost-effective and realistic, unlike fully tunnelled metro, which is why the REM line A was able to cover such vast distances in its network while costing barely more than the Blue line extension.
The Pink Line was exactly what you described the REM de l'Est as; poorly conceived. It was a fantasy plan made up by a politician to gain votes. It would have cost a ridiculous amount to build, for one, and the areas it covered were completely idiotic. Half of its run would be pointless, as it parallels both the Orange and Green Line and centers the metro around the downtown area specifically (which is exactly what transit shouldn't do). The REM de l'Est was an infinitely better design and one that actually would have been built. It was killed off by people who don't understand anything about how cities work or operate. The usual in North America, unfortunately.
Oh...I cannot wait to see your faboulus editing skills on this one! I just wish we didn't have to wait 2 days for it, but I'll be patient, because you are the best channel in ALL of RUclips! Can't wait to see your next masterpiece Chris! Much love and respect to you my friend!
Thanks Chris for this fantastic followup to your previous one: The REM is coming. The REM is now here and this is only the beginning. Phase 1 now rolls across the sublime Samuel-de Champlain bridge. Phase 2 will roll through the very long and dark Mont Royal tunnel under the eponymous mountain that defines Montréal and which gave it its actual name. Phase 3 will finally roll to and from the fast-expanding Dorval airport through which transit most of the international tourists and visitors. Each phase should be just as, if not more, exciting than the previous one. It's a really great project and this equally great video helps us to understand why.
NH
I look forward to watching this masterpiece!
Congratulations, another well edited video with a balanced analysis of the project. The only thing missing are the beautiful footage of Montreal and the Champlain bridge at night.
I should have included some! Unfortunately it’s hard to capture the views at night with a camera, the train lights make it difficult.
The REM (Réseau express métropolitain) is an automated light metro rapid transit system, opening in phases between 2023-2027.
First proposed: 2016
Began construction: 2018
First phase: July 2023
Second phase: 2025
Airport branch: 2027
Stations: 26
Total length: 67km
Train type: Alstom Metropolis (Automated)
Top speed: 100km/h
Cost: C$7.95 billion
Wow great video!! Great production.
Thanks Sky!🙏
thanks for the video ... i use the REM everyday ... very efficient , fast and fun .... I grew up on a canadian base air force where fighter jets (F-18) planes were taking off 24-7 , our brain get used to the noise .... People in Griffintown live next to the VIA rail trains and other trains plus Ville MArie high way ..... I used to live around Square Victoria and firefighters were out almost everynight ... in 2023 , people are egocentric and stupids
Best one yet. love the dig at the nimbys at the end.
Wonderful video. Just absolutely great 👌
I'm so happy to see that my excitement for the REM is shared (and my sadness for the cancellation of the REM de l'est is also shared). Thank you for your work! Your videos really always give us reasons to be proud of our metropolis : )
Nice job, as usual! (and the comic touches were great lol) Can't believe the clowns who nixxed REM de l'est.
Thanks for featuring my video! Very honoured and shocked my work is in there among others.
Ayoo my partner in crime is in this video !!!
@@Yahiathetransitguy you betcha
Thanks again Alex!!🙏 Hope you enjoyed it!
Wonderful 👏🏾😍. MTL Public Transit got a make over 😍👏🏾
people who complain about REM noises in Griffintown forget to mention thay bought condos where a CN track had been pressent for 100 years. The Via rail trains make a clunking noise and they have poluting diesel engines
I live in Griffintown, the problem is that we get the sound and no station when we were promised a station. We already don’t have a metro station and were let down by them scrapping our rem station
Tried the REM. it's great
I love how you included English native speakers just butchering French names. Gave me a good laugh.
nice job Quebec hopefully the rest of Canada follows
That’s amazing. Canada is making great strides towards pedestrian and cyclist friendly cities in all their metros. I hope we start taking notes for cities in the US. Changes are beginning to happen in some cities but we have a long way to go. PS NIMBY’s suck!!!
Elton McFall is in thisvideo !
I wish ottawa is like this
They should keep building as originally planned, and then bulldoze all around the REM rails into parks and bicycle lanes and relocate the people. So that way nobody will complain about the noise.
The noise is fine, please, the people crying about noise are child.
relocate people is not popular anymore and very risky politically
Montréal already had a bad story of a massive eminent domain to build a visionary airport in Mirabel in 1975 for passenger transportation. It turned out that they only used about 15% of the land they took from private owners and the airport terminal was used for only 29 years before being demolished.
So every time we say eminent domain in Montréal for large infrastructure people get really defensive.
Les cousins Québécois font du bon travail.
2 days?!? Aww.. :)
😂 The wait will be worth it for this one, I promise!
Always is :)@@DiscoverMontréal
Always is.@@DiscoverMontréal woops double reply.
😂😂 To those saying they can't sleep and now goto move. Perfect example of why we in Canada don't have a good transit connection system. Then they wined, we want to be World class city! Cities need more of those fast trains, if people are to leave cars at home, or get rid of them. Saying its a rapid transit, and it stops at every intersection isn't rapid transit. Also don't get me started on getting new boring machines, when you already got one.
Isn't saying "REM Metro" kind of like saying "ATM machine" or "PIN number"? haha anyway I wish the US would take note.
You are right ! Métro is short for Métropolitain , Underground = Under the ground and Subway = Subterrean way.
All metro , underground and Subway are like Sewer surfing.
At least with the REM you can see outside while traveling.
Vous devriez faire ce reportage en français pour vendre le REM dans l'Est de MTL. Voir la ville de haut plutôt que sous-terre.
I think there won’t be the east REM line because of the extension of the blue line.
Montréal leading public transport in NA as always. If we ignore NYC :)
Great video! As someone who don't live in Montreal, there is a couple things I find ans downside of this project however. First, I don't like the idea of the seats positioning...I mean, I know it's a rapid transit, but even on rapid transit I sometimes like to just seat and watch through the window behind me. Second, it would be better if it got extended towards more distant suburban settlements...because exo trains are quite infrequent generally and buses get stuck in traffic.
We can fianally defeat the billionaire with a limo ! He will be on one side of the mountain near station Édouard-Monpetit, wait for his car , 35 minutes later , be at McGill station while the poor man that I am will have taken 3 minutes by REM
They got a lot right with the REM. But how is it acceptable for a new multi-billion dollar transit system to have hard plastic seats that cost about $1.23 each? 21st century tech with 19th century 'comfort'. :^/
They are actually very comfortable and similar to the Metro’s Azur seats. Much nicer than seats with a thin piece of dirty fabric.
@@DiscoverMontréalGlad someone likes them. As an older gent, I grew up here in Montreal in the days when all transit had padded seats, and you could ride any long trajectory without getting a numb bum. Never noticed them to be particularly dirty. But maybe they should put Azur seats in airplanes and hotel lobbies, and we'd all feel better about their cleanliness. :^D
easier to cleaning with plastic seat, while raining day or snowing day it is not really fun to sit on wet cotton seat look like if someone pee on the cotton seat
@@vkobevk Good to know you like the hard plastic seats - may your bum enjoy. Don't ever go on an airplane or intercity train, you'll be afraid of pee. I grew up with Montreal buses that had thick padded vinyl seats. They were soft and comfortable, and I doubt they were harder to clean.
@@pbasswil who say i love to sit on airplane seat? if you enjoy this vomit spot place good for you 😊
well montreal intercity train is like one train every 2 hours so it is so bad, rem is every 10 minutes, so the rotation is faster on the rem train, not so much time to clean up the train, it is like the bus and the metro
and anyway majority time you stand up, so it is not like you have opportunity to sit
except now when they dont chose hard plastic they chose this dirty cotton seat and sorry while rainy or snowy day it is not enjoyable to sit on wet cotton seat it is like if someone pee on your sitting place
Would this version of the REM be 'Socaily acceptable'
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😂😂😂
Montreal should build that
I’m from to Toronto but I lived in Montreal for 2-3 months. One of my favourite things about the city is the amazing metro! Bar none, the best transit system in Canada, hands down! They’re fast, comfortable, and frequent as hell! And there’s cell service! The REM is truly amazing and it’s the most amazing transit project in Canada! It will change the city forever and for the better! Felicitations Montreal!
TTC is decades behind proper transit planning.
As a lifelong Torontonian, I’m envious! Salut to Montreal…way ahead of Toronto’s God-awfully slow transit expansion (the umpteenth-delayed Ellington Crosstown anyone)? Definable want to ride this…my next Montreal visit!
Just gonna sit here and wait for the Ontario line but then that will mean the Yonge north extension opens 😢
Look at all those NIMBY's crying... What noise!?! LAME AF!!! So proud of everyone who worked on the project!!!
They do the same thing in the US. You can’t build anything anywhere.
@@Leonard_Wilson this is sad man..
@@Atem_S. Profit over the peoples. Its sad indeed.
@@OdinWannaBe The point of a company is to make money.. If you want to pretend you run a company, start a non-profits and lose all the money your heart can content.... Another one living in lalaland... They crying for nothing and are just ball buster! Everything they said is false...
Super happy to be a part of this project!! Thank you for showing how incredible the REM is, I'm so happy I was able to help in this!! Very well done video
Thanks again Noki I really appreciate it! 🙏
As far as the noise go, I think that there are multiple problems, and that the blame is shared between multiple parties. For starters, theses peoples moved in next to the track. They really should have expected some level of noise. The bigger issue is the fact that Montreal allowed contractors to build theses buildings to be built in the first place. Montreal really should have required triple glazed windows in buildings next to the train track. The siding of the buildings should have been made of materials that can absorb sound.
Im glad tho, the public infrastructure is way more important than some corps rats trying to make banks on basics necessity, the populations > your personal profits.
Wow
Happy to see this wonderful Video
The REM is the best metro system in the North America ❤
I sleep with my windows open right next to a major bus corridor down the street of a Metro station, next to a stop sign no less. So i get to hear buses accelerating all day and night. I stopped noticing it years ago. I'd love a little electric train that only passes during the day. NIMBYs are just big cry babys. Especially that man-child, Drew with his two earplugs (how do you wear two pairs of earplugs 🤔) and pillow over his head.
The noise is so much less aggressive than cars passing. And less constant
Yeah man thanks for including some of my content mate.
No, thank YOU! I've scattered you throughout the video, I hope you enjoy it!
Congrats
i love seeing smaller youtubers in here. such as alex gets around TO. and miles who is a larger channel but not too well known
I'm looking forward to seeing the REM when I visit Montreal.
I will return to Montreal when they finish the REM line to Trudeau International Airport. So psyched!
Big cities in the Canada and the US are extremely behind big cities in Europe and Asia when it comes to public transit. Our transit systems are not as dense nor as long. Generally speaking this is a very good step in the right direction. I much prefer taking public transit if it is more practical and faster than using a car. If you live in a densely populated area like Montreal then it's kind of insane to be dependent on a car in order to get around. Especially when traveling to/from work.
US cities definitely lag behind metros in cities abroad as many Americans want the freedom of driving the automobile and fares on these metros are getting more expensive.
I wish Edmonton's Valley Line was like this, the city really dropped the ball.
Miles trying to say Reservee... made me smile.
God love him, his French was a clown show.
Un autre montage réussi! Félicitations!
The REM looks great. I'm looking forward to going to Montreal and trying it out. I know a lot of people are disappointed that they REM de l'Est is not being built, but I think if they change the plan a bit and make it better, it will be accepted too. Montreal, generally speaking, has an east-west downtown. It's much easier to cross it the way the original REM is doing that to go along it. By doing so, one would need to tunnel through long distances, at least up to the Jacques-Cartier Bridge. If it was closer to the port, it might work that way, or if the line north of Mount Royal split and had a part going east along the Metropolitan highway, that might also work too. Anyway, this is a big accomplishment for Montreal and I believe that REM's can be built in the suburbs and serve downtown Montreal and eventually, each other. Congrats Montreal.
Those trains 🚆 are similar to the trains 🚆 in Bangkok
Wonderful transport project
And Toronto has. Nothing.
I was actually at the inaugural event. I had a blast being on for the first time.
The REM is the best metro system in the north américa! probably in the world ❤
congratulations to you from Paris
I’m excited to explore this when I’m in Montreal in spring and summer
That maybe the only transit railway in America that take you from downtown MTL to Panama in 15 minutes! ! ! Wow! No Boeing, No Airbus only the REM could do it. - So maybe you should rename the station to Brossard something not to confused Americans.
It will be a subway in two places, tunnel Mont royal, and the airport tunnel.
Pretty much!
@@DiscoverMontréal we're laying track in the Mont royal tunnel now.
Exciting! How's it looking?@@ImpalerVlad
People retired or who don’t use public transportation should not have a say in the REM only working people.
Quite a weired configuration with no trailer carriage.
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