Solar Power Generator and Gas Generator - The Perfect Combination - Charging Solar Gen with Gas Gen
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- In this video, I explain why it's a good idea to have both a solar generator and gas generator, and I demonstrate charging the solar generator (Delta 1300) with our Champion gas generator. I also give suggestions on what to look for in a gas generator for this purpose.
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Champion Power Equipment 200961 2500-Watt Dual Fuel Portable Inverter Generator, Ultralight (This is on Amazon and is good jumping on point to see other Champion Inverter Generators)
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I particularly like the 4500-Watt Dual Fuel Inverter 200988 and two of the 2000 Watt Dual Fuel Inverter 100900 generators connected by a parallel kit sold separately. Be sure to contact your solar generator manufacturer first to be sure it will work okay with you setup. Also, the 2000 Watt units are not electric start. Also, Model 100263 and at least another has been discontinued so verify yours is not. And... Don't forget... The watt rating you see on the name is the surge watts while using gas! The surge watts for propane will be less and the actual running watts on both will be less than that. Look up the specs first!
First of my 3 part series on how to figure out what you can run on your solar generator and for how long and to size it, please see:
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You have one of the most informative yet underated channels on RUclips. Enjoy the vids. Stay safe.
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@@CH-eg5rd So would I. He actually lived in the mountains for a while and endured the hardships. His opinion has the weight of experience behind it. That goes a long way in my book.
Thanks for your comment.
Much respect for your wife! She wasn't messing around!! That's a good woman you've got by your side! Thanks for this awesome video!!
She's a keeper! Been with her for 35 years.
We have this as one of 4 backups. We have used this set up a few times and love it. This channel is very under rated. Keep up the good work!
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoy it!
Thanks for the video! I get some of the most valuable information from your videos. I can tell you put a great deal of thought into them. I have a Delta as well and was thinking about a gas generator to charge it when needed. Thanks for the tips!
Fantastic video. You covered everything and no boring unrelated BS! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the video! I never gave this too much thought until now. Ill look into the Champion generator links you provided. Great content in your videos!
Just what I was looking for thanks. Great channel by the way. 👍🏿
Thank you for this video. I didn't know if I could charge my solar batteries with a gas generator.
Backups on backups! Great video
Can't believe I was able to find this video...This is exactly what I was looking for
Please shate so others can see this! Ill be posting a vid on how I charge my Delta Pro with that propane gen while reviewing it.
I'm glad I watch your video. Thank u.
U are a smart man. Yes I'm in the marker for both gas and solar.
Yes sir you are exactly right!! I have always said using a gas generator in combination with solar generator is great. We can run gas for a few hours during the day while the so-gen is charging by solar or if it is still bad out use the generator to charge!!! Then at night run the solar generator!! My gas last twice as long now!!
Perfect!
By the way, I saw your page... I have been to both loon lake and icehouse and loved it. If I remember correctly, loon lake is much higher in elevation.
@@LoneStarPrepping There are two Loon Lakes in the Adirondacks, this one is about 20 miles north of Lake George NY. The other is a restricted Lake in the north Adirondacks. Icehouse in the Moose River Plains is a great place!! No cell service, no tv reception and really no radio reception either….love it.
Was thinking of another one... oops
Make the generator auto start when the battery charge is low, set the battery charger amps matching with generator's max efficiency, then generator should stop when the battery is fully charged. That should be a perfect system.
I saw in another comment you bought the Delta Pro! I missed the kickstarter deadline. I have to wait for retail. Hope it has the same battery. My husband says its a good one.
It should have the same battery. Ill do a review on it when I get it. I was a super early bird, so Ill be one of the first to get it other than people doing reviews for the company.
Thanks for making this video. I hope it will inspire your subs to get prepared. A couple of pro tips from up north 30lb or even 40lb propane tanks if you can lift them. Always get them filled rather than a swap, cheaper and you get more propane. I just switched to VP fuel jugs because I hate those new gas cans. I plan on a video when I get some time with them. I paid $4.23 a gallon for ethanol free gasoline yesterday. Worth every penny. You will want to mortgage your soul when there's and outage and you are cold and hungry. Here it usually happens when its 10 below with wind chill.
I like the idea of a 40 pound tank. Right now we have 8 20lb stored up.
@@LoneStarPrepping Excellent, How do you like your Delta? I just picked up the AC200P, working on the solar to charge it off grid.
@@NYHalfassprepper I like the Delta 1300 and it's saved us many times and will keep using it, but I think there are better units out there, like yours. I am a super early bird pledger on kickstarter for the Delta Pro and extra battery. I should be getting it next month or so.... That's 7,200wh of battery and 3,600 max cont. running watts and 1600w solar input.
@@LoneStarPrepping Excellent choice my friend. Worth every penny. If I had been in the market at that time, it would have been a no brainer.
I’m doing similar as a way to charge up until I get the solar on the roof and the charging line from the vehicle working.
I bought a cheap gas gen to recharge my Bluetti EB70s on cloudy days. Four hours of running on gas to fully charge two power stations runs my small AC freezer and and dorm fridge overnight. But if the sun shines I can use my panels.
Sounds like a nice little setup!
I just recently asked a few days on my social media other ways I could charge it in case of a power outage during the winter times. I’ve heard that it takes excessive amount of time via car cigarette lighter and same for solar panels during winter as well.
Cigarette lighter not practical. It takes way too long. Other than gas gen, find out how wide spread the power outage is. If it is somewhat local, you may be able to go to famly's or friends house to charge when needed. Check out my power outage protocal paper under description in vid 3 in my series on if you can run it and for how long.
@@LoneStarPrepping I saw a person selling a used Delta 1300 with a 110w Ecoflow solar panel for $900. Is that a good deal? They only used it a few times supposedly
Its not bad, but you can use up to 400 watts of solar and 110 not much. A new Delta right now is about $1099 when I googled it. I have a link on my page, at least now, is that price as well.
Thank you so much! We are just getting prepared for a power grid failure and I'm trying to figure out the best solar powered generator that can also be charged by a gas generator. Thank you so much!
Many can be charged by a gas generator. I just bought a Ecoflow Delta Pro and Ecoflow Pro Extra Battery. Ill be doing a review on it in a few weeks. I think it is The Best solar generator on the market. I think you can get it at Costco right now. ecoflow.com/pages/delta-pro
@@LoneStarPrepping thanks so much!!
We have a similar set up. We have a Champion 4250w open frame inverter for a 10k btu Midea split window unit and a refrigerator with wattage to spare. It runs off our 200gal propane tank. We have a Bluetti EB55 for 4-5 10w LED bulbs, phone chargers and our router. We charge the Bluetti from the generator if needed but my F150 has a 400w inverter. So we can get 200w from the inverter and another 200w coming in from the 12v outlet. It’s important because I can charge with two sources simultaneously as each input takes 200w vs the 500 Jackery that (I think) only has a single 60w input. Smart set up and looking to upgrade my solar battery. 100% in 45 min is wild. What’s the max input of the Delta? 👍 Thanks.
Thank you! Exactly what I was looking for. Can you charge a generator with a higher watt generator. Now to see if I can eith my propane generator
The solar gen I am charging limits itself with amount of input.
Planning to buy a Delta 2 plus I already have a 1800 Ryobi gasoline generator that has an inverter.
Delta 2 looks like a great unit! You may need a gas gen at least 2000 watts. You may want to call ecoflow.
I just bought a Delta Pro, it's on the way, and I'm looking into buying a small duel fuel generator in order to charge up the Delta Pro at times in which using solar panels wouldn't be efficient enough (and can not plug into the grid because of either storms or other disasters. So, that said, I've found Champion duel fuel generators on Amazon which cost anywhere from only $550 ish and up. But what do you think is the minimum requirement to efficiently charge up my Delta Pro? I see yours looks big and powerful, but your needs may be much different than mine, I would just be using it for recharging the Pro.
It needs to be able to charge at least 2000 watts... pure sine inverter. Mine isnt really that big. Id get bigger if I were to buy again.
@@LoneStarPrepping Thanks
Do you plug you portable ac unit into the gas generator? Or use an extension cord?
I have a video where I go over that... check it out... ruclips.net/video/MkH6B_AzNQ0/видео.htmlsi=dnUsukt0K-il-8BN
Ask electrician what size extension cable you need based on length
I have two Delta 1300’s. I was wondering if you knew what the smallest inverter generator is that could charge it from 0% to 100% in 90 minutes?
I believe the smallest is 2,000 watts. You may want to ask ecoflow... dont remember how long.
I have a question. I have just purchased an EcoFlow Delta Pro with 409 watt solar panel. I have an Ai Power 2000w inverter dual fuel generator. Can I use the supplied Electrical cord and plug that into my inverter generator just as I would plug it into a wall outlet and charge my Delta Pro?
I dont think using the power cord from your Delta Pro will be an issue. I would not suggest using an extention cord, however.
2:55 She plugs the EDP directly into the gas generator, but what if an extension cord is used, does it have to be 12 Gauge/15 amp or would it
need 10 Gauge/20 amp (or more)? I have the EDP and a Champ. Gen, have not used it yet, but I figure I'd want to use a 15' extension cord, run
the generator on my patio and keep the EDP inside the house while it charges..the EDP is 100 Lbs. as you know.
I just googled my question and found an answer at the DIY Solar forum "For up to 50 ft, you can use a 12 AWG extension cord". I presume this answer is correct, it's a shame I had to dig so much for this info though. They said the power cord that came with it is 14 gauge so
I think using a 12 gauge extension cord (less than 50 ft.) sounds o.k. to me. One can always feel cords to check if they are getting hot in which case that would mean it needs a heavier duty cord and or shorter length.
Please tell me how much all your generators, solar panels and everything added up to?
Prices have likely changed. You need to research this yourself.
How can I find out which inverter generators provide pure sine wave? I can't seem to find that info anywhere And I want one to provide backup power for my Ecoflow Delta 2 max.
Read the box or the writing on the unit itself. I would think any online site would tell you because it's a plus. If it doesn't say it, it probably isnt one. Or... call the manufactuerer.
How many times can the propane generator charge the power station on one 20lb tank?
It all depends on how low the power station is. Other than that, I already taled about numbers.
Home generators cost at least 75 cents per kilowatt hour at 3 bucks a gallon. More on propane. My backup Home solar system is backed up by a generator as well.
Can you run a solar panel like from the 12 volt to charge and use the electronic part of it without the gas?
Sorry. Im not understanding what you are asking. If you are asking about my gas gen, then no... it will not run on solar. If you are asking about my portable non gas power station, yes it can charge via solar.
@@LoneStarPrepping Yeah the gas gen. I kind of got tied up paying for a Wen gas gen and Im just trying to think of a way to run solar so I dont have to spend so much on gas.
I have a 30 year old homelight Lightening 600AG generator. 12 volt 10 amp. How do I know the sign wave? Can I charge a lithium ion MNC battery with it? It is 500 watt inverter and the battery is rated to 600 watt max input. It’s a yeti gold zero 1500x.
I would contact the battery manufacturer or yeti. I have my doubts that the 600AG Gen is pure sine gen.
Ecoflow sells a gas generator that auto starts/stops when connected to Delta Max or Delta Pro. Very cool but you can't currently find one.
I would have purchased it when I purchased the Delta Pro, but it did not run on propane. That was a deal breaker for me.
@@LoneStarPrepping Considered that as I have the same Champion, but I think the efficiency factor is too substantial to ignore.
@@apprentice7755 I bet, in the not too distant future, you will see that unit will become dual fuel. Once it does, I may be intereted. At this point, I am trying to figure out the best solution for a solar panel array for the Delta Pro I should be getting in a month or so.
@@LoneStarPrepping Have you found anything, I also want propane! I think Champion has a propane gen. but not sure it will charge batteries. I am very unknowable about this stuff.
@@LoneStarPrepping The ecoflow generator does run on propane and gasoline.
Great video but my question is does it have to be a inverter generator or can it be a basic gas generator
It needs to be a pure sine wave...
Is it possible to charge the Delta with the Champion while the Delta is being used?
I also have this question say you were in a power outage and using the ecoflow to run your freezer, so you would like to be able to recharge the ecoflow while it is powering your freezer. Can you do this?
Yes. The panels would always be hooked up and charging when the sun is out and the Pro would be running whatever I choose.
@PreppingOver50 ok but what if there is n9 sun and you want t9 just charge the ecoflow with your generator while it is powering the fridge ?
@PreppingOver50 I see with your delta pro video you charge your sub panel with the generator and then the ecoflow from the wall but the ecoflow was not in use while charging
@@Freynightwalker Right. That is when it has been raining for days and I cant get solar into the Pro while running things. If I want to charge from the gas gen and continue using the Pro to provide power, I would just charge the Pro directly with a cable from the gas gen or run things from the Pro directly with extention cables instead of using the transfer switch. I was trying to show different options.
Can you get by just using a gas generator connected to your solar power inverter?
Not sure what you are asking. Do you mean charge my solar generator (portable power station), which has an inverter in it, with my gas gen because I do that. See my other video on the Delta Pro.
I've got a Champion dual fuel generator, but it is not an inverter generator. Will the solar battery generators charge properly with the non-inverter type generators?
I dont think so. I wouldnt take a chance. Call your solar gen company and ask.
@@LoneStarPrepping I don't have any solar. Just a Bluetti AC200MAX and the Champion dual fuel generator (non-inverter style). My plan for blackouts is to use the Bluetti to charge the sump pump and fridge over night, and then the Champion to run these appliances during the day as well as recharge the Bluetti. Do you still think I need an inverter-style gas generator to take advantage of the pure sine wave?
You asked about charging your " solar battery" Anyway, I would not use a non inverter generator to charge your unit. You should call the "solar battery generator manufacturer about this. Its about protecting the devices you want to charge. I would only use an inverter generator to charge the unit.
@@LoneStarPrepping Great. Thank you for the reply.
i knew i was on the right track
i was gonna buy 2.....200 watt solar panels ....somthin said dont do that
just buy a duel fuel generator ...cant go wrong with that
i still will buy 1 200 watt solar panel for a just in case
For me, the panels are priority and gas gen backup.
You missed the point of his video he is saying you should buy the 2 panels and when the solar is not working due to weather conditions you use the gas generator to top the batteries off.
Is it possible to adapt my old gas generator to use as pure sine wave to charge my new Vtoman jump 1500 solar generator? I don't want to purchase a pure sine wave gas generator to charge my solar generator if I don't have to.
Vtoman jump 1500 solar generator? I don't want to purchase a pure since wave generator if I don't have to.
I have no idea. Sorry.
Can you please tell me your propane regulator model number? Thanks
It came with the generator.
When you run a gas generator, a lot of the energy goes to waste if you aren't pulling full load, really. You can grab a bunch of that wasted energy and store it in the solar generator battery for later use.
Part of the problem with solar generators is they can't charge very "fast", many are max charge at only 150Watts even. If you run a gas generator, it's going to put out at least 1000 watts continously. THis means you are wasting the potential of 800 watts more of storage.
Really you would want either a really fast charging solar gen (some can go up to 600W charging or more) OR have multiple solar generators plugged into the gas generator, to extract as much energy as possible from the gasoline.
Not sure what you are saying has anything to do with my video. If you want to learn more about solar etc... I have several videos that may help you.
@@LoneStarPrepping Sorry for the confusion. I was just wanting to point out that your idea of using a gas generator is great, but I was wondering if it can be improved by making sure to have also a solar generator that can charge as fast as possible, to utilize the full energy from the gasoline.
You have a EcoFlow Delta which actually can charge really fast (600Watts or more) so this idea works really good!
@@researchandbuild1751 Charging speed through solar, wall or a gas generator is absolutely one of the most important considerations when choosing a portable power station for emergency use. That's why I picked Ecoflow.
Back to fossil fuel we need fossil fuel that’s it end of story
Why would you use the generator to charge the solar generator? Why wouldn't you just plug the generator into your panel. I don't see the benefit.
What happens if your power is out for 5 days and its raining the whole time? Your panels would be useless. I invite you to actually watch my video. I talk about this at 1:36 and other reasons starting at 0:52