There's no such thing as a "correct coat of arms for [a] family". Coats of arms belong to specific individuals, and are inherited in direct succession. They do not apply to entire family names.
It hurts my ears to hear Americans mispronounce the names of Engish cities. FyI, the letter "C" is silent in the middle of city names as is also de "W". Why, I don't know exactly; but it has to do with the origin of the word. Most cities which include -Cester in their name are of Roman origin. Leicester, Gloucester, Towcester, Bicester, Worcester, etc all are pronounced without the letter C. Lester, Gluster, Toaster, Bister, Woorster. :-). Also, -shire at the end of a county is pronounced - sheere. So Worcestershire is pronounced Woor-ster-sheer and Leicestershire Lester-sheer.
I don't know how many times I've been to gift shops of castles or other historic buildings in the UK where they'll have coasters with family crests on them, but sounds like a tattoo is a much more permanent mistake to get the wrong coat of arms. It's also worth noting even if you find out you're not directly entitled as an individual to inherit a specific blazon, you can still sometimes get one with a cadency mark showing your ancestry while denoting that you are not the firstborn or are decended from a second or third born son.
Hey, I was wondering if you have the coat of arms for Basombrío. I'm searching for it everywere but can't find anything. I remember seeing one years ago but I can't find it anymore
I took some time to look, and I was only able to find a coat of arms for Basombo - En plata, un jabali, de sable, andante. In English, Argent, a wild boar sable.
The problem I have is that my surname is Ukrainian and trying to find much from that area is a problem. Much of the landed gentry and nobility information was destroyed by the Russian Revolution. I found 3 coats of arms listed in the Riechstap Armorial for my surname: 1 German and 2 Russian. I'm having problems finding much information on my family pedigree anyway beyond the death certificates of my grandparents.
It is challenging. We have a book titled Russian Heraldry and Nobility published in 1992. Its main thrust was to translate into English and organize (using an English A-Z alphabet method) the main body of Russian heraldry, as published by the Russian government in serial form from 1797 until 1840 under the title Obschii Gerbobnik Dvorianskikh Rodov Vserossiiskoi. We also have many other books in our library.
Good afternoon, Firstly, please allow me to congradulate you for the research that you have done in the family history of the late Mrs. Gates. However, please forgive me to state that their is no such thing as a "family coat of arms." Heraldic acheivements in the British custom, are granted to one individual, and may be passed down to the first son (possibly today, son). Therefore, Mrs Gates would not could not have the heraldic achievement presented, as they are not hers. One would have to make a resquest through a heraldic authority like the Canadian Heraldic Authority, the Court of Lord Lyon or the College of Arms to petition for a grant of arms. Element may be shared from the original, however the new grant will have to be different.
Just curious. The document says quarterly, which means if im not wrong, there were 4 sections of the coat of arms. Why is the first section more important and considered the individual's arms, when there were 4? Is it just because that was the same as the arms of end result?
Good question. Perhaps because nobility and royalty were romanticized in our movies and TV shows. In other cases, our great grandparents told us little stories here and there about possible nobility in the family lineage.
Well, the reason these things are interesting to us is because many people in the United States don't really know exactly where they come from. We're all decedents of immigrants and some of us have absolutely no idea what our ancestry is, so finding out these things is very interesting to us. If that makes sense.
I'm not obsessed. While doing genealogy work on my Bornholm (island) Denmark family, I came across the COA of my 9th great grandfather. Its a simple but unique design and in 4 years I've not found one even close to similar. I guess you could say I'm "obsessed" with finding more information on it because I have none..zip..nada. The helmet indicates sovereign/royalty. Set of 3 arrows point at the helmet top & 3 arrows on the shield. Nothing elaborate, very simple design. There is a family legend that we're descended from a Danish prince or Danish royalty, no time frame or other info. A number of ancestors were involved with the Hammershus Fortress on the island.
Probably a few people in the world are “obsessed”. However for most of us it’s colorful, bold, and represent (tells a story) about someone, somewhere in our extended ancestry. For Americans, it’s like our interest in our national or state flag. For me, it’s a by-product of my genealogical research.
There's no such thing as a "correct coat of arms for [a] family". Coats of arms belong to specific individuals, and are inherited in direct succession. They do not apply to entire family names.
It hurts my ears to hear Americans mispronounce the names of Engish cities. FyI, the letter "C" is silent in the middle of city names as is also de "W". Why, I don't know exactly; but it has to do with the origin of the word. Most cities which include -Cester in their name are of Roman origin. Leicester, Gloucester, Towcester, Bicester, Worcester, etc all are pronounced without the letter C. Lester, Gluster, Toaster, Bister, Woorster. :-). Also, -shire at the end of a county is pronounced - sheere. So Worcestershire is pronounced Woor-ster-sheer and Leicestershire Lester-sheer.
Thanks and sorry!
That was very helpful-thank you
My family code of arms❤
I don't know how many times I've been to gift shops of castles or other historic buildings in the UK where they'll have coasters with family crests on them, but sounds like a tattoo is a much more permanent mistake to get the wrong coat of arms.
It's also worth noting even if you find out you're not directly entitled as an individual to inherit a specific blazon, you can still sometimes get one with a cadency mark showing your ancestry while denoting that you are not the firstborn or are decended from a second or third born son.
Where did you find the actual photos or pictures of the coat of arms. I found the book online but it didn’t saw where to go for a picture
COADB has it: coadb.com/surnames/gates-arms.html. It's the fourth one listed on the page.
Why are you going back through the grandma? I thought family name is with the father?
Hi that was a very helpful video. By the way it is pronounced glo ster
We thank you for all your comments
How do I go about finding everything I need to know to find coat of arms?
how did you establish the 'ancestral lineage', I don't really know how to research finding the parents, then their parents etc?
You still do this? The website is gone when I search.
why 16th generation, and not say 10th or 12th generation?
Is there anything like this but for spanish and italian surnames?
Great video by the way.
Hey, I was wondering if you have the coat of arms for Basombrío. I'm searching for it everywere but can't find anything. I remember seeing one years ago but I can't find it anymore
I took some time to look, and I was only able to find a coat of arms for Basombo - En plata, un jabali, de sable, andante. In English,
Argent, a wild boar sable.
@@findmycoatdotcom5021 Oh, thanks! I will check if I can inherit it (maybe the surname changed over the years).
That 2 was important too
Bosworth coat of arms
Thank you ❤🎉
Can you do mine please. It’s Duarte and I don’t have much information on my ancestors due to my family not knowing ancestors names
Long from England north West Yorkshire Leeds
Shame your website doesn't work
My mum's family surname is Jones
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The problem I have is that my surname is Ukrainian and trying to find much from that area is a problem. Much of the landed gentry and nobility information was destroyed by the Russian Revolution. I found 3 coats of arms listed in the Riechstap Armorial for my surname: 1 German and 2 Russian. I'm having problems finding much information on my family pedigree anyway beyond the death certificates of my grandparents.
It is challenging. We have a book titled Russian Heraldry and Nobility published in 1992. Its main thrust was to translate into English and organize (using an English A-Z alphabet method) the main body of Russian heraldry, as published by the Russian government in serial form from 1797 until 1840 under the title Obschii Gerbobnik Dvorianskikh Rodov Vserossiiskoi. We also have many other books in our library.
I guess it's his family's now
Good afternoon,
Firstly, please allow me to congradulate you for the research that you have done in the family history of the late Mrs. Gates. However, please forgive me to state that their is no such thing as a "family coat of arms." Heraldic acheivements in the British custom, are granted to one individual, and may be passed down to the first son (possibly today, son). Therefore, Mrs Gates would not could not have the heraldic achievement presented, as they are not hers.
One would have to make a resquest through a heraldic authority like the Canadian Heraldic Authority, the Court of Lord Lyon or the College of Arms to petition for a grant of arms. Element may be shared from the original, however the new grant will have to be different.
The site unavailable
Code off arms off the Duggan's northern Irelana
Just checked mine and there are 27 variants, BTW it's pronounced gloss-ster (Gloucester)
It looks like your website is down… did you guys stop your services?
Just curious. The document says quarterly, which means if im not wrong, there were 4 sections of the coat of arms. Why is the first section more important and considered the individual's arms, when there were 4? Is it just because that was the same as the arms of end result?
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Vargas?
Why are Americans obsessed with coats of Arms and stuff like that
Good question. Perhaps because nobility and royalty were romanticized in our movies and TV shows. In other cases, our great grandparents told us little stories here and there about possible nobility in the family lineage.
A lot of Brits are as well, regrettably. No excuse for it really.
Well, the reason these things are interesting to us is because many people in the United States don't really know exactly where they come from. We're all decedents of immigrants and some of us have absolutely no idea what our ancestry is, so finding out these things is very interesting to us. If that makes sense.
I'm not obsessed. While doing genealogy work on my Bornholm (island) Denmark family, I came across the COA of my 9th great grandfather. Its a simple but unique design and in 4 years I've not found one even close to similar. I guess you could say I'm "obsessed" with finding more information on it because I have none..zip..nada.
The helmet indicates sovereign/royalty. Set of 3 arrows point at the helmet top & 3 arrows on the shield.
Nothing elaborate, very simple design. There is a family legend that we're descended from a Danish prince or Danish royalty, no time frame or other info. A number of ancestors were involved with the Hammershus Fortress on the island.
Probably a few people in the world are “obsessed”. However for most of us it’s colorful, bold, and represent (tells a story) about someone, somewhere in our extended ancestry. For Americans, it’s like our interest in our national or state flag. For me, it’s a by-product of my genealogical research.