0:19 is one of my favorite moments in the series. It’s a small thing but it shows that the Clones will stand by their brothers through thick and thin. That’s what brothers are supposed to do.
Yeah they don't make it so rex just doesn't mention it Totally not necessary for the plot but great to show how it's a freedom operation But imagine if someone went no lol i'm just gonna head out bye (kinda what dogma did)
It's also thematically like the inverse of Order 66. This time the Clones are the ones who feel betrayed, through their entire lives they'd worked with Jedi, trusted them with their lives, just as many Jedi trusted the clones with theirs, and Krell betrayed that trust and actively tried to kill his own men. And unlike the clones, he had no chip in his brain that made him do it, he chose to. It's really unforgivable.
This just shows that if the Jedi had known about order 66 a second before it happened they would not have been defeated, did you see how much clones he was able to take out before he was defeated, order 66 should not have worked as well as it did.
@@notjord317 On top of that not every Jedi was Obi Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker. Most clones had a strictly professional relationship with their Jedi generals so most were not that close, and most Jedi were not the caliber of leaders as the main Jedi were. Also some Jedi had betrayed the republic so to the majority of Clones it seemed justified, as if there were another Krell. Depended on the unit, some were controlled by the chip, others wouldn’t of needed it. The Jedis that were close to their soldiers were surprised if anything which is why most didn’t fight back.
I feel like Dave Filoni was trying to show us in this scene what would happened if Pong Krell never betray the jedi and saw order 66. He would be a massive tank.
There was a Jedi master by the name of Jaro Tapal in the new Star Wars game “Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order” Who I’d say is a massive tank compared to Pong Krell. Who held off his own against a whole bunch of clones during order 66 but unfortunately died.
@@DeadEye364 I don’t think they where trying to capture him until the end. For the most part they were shooting countless bolts with the intent to kill and he still wrecked them
I like the added detail that Tup didn’t have the guts the shoot to kill on a Jedi general even though he knows it’s justified. Making his eventual Jedi kill all the more jarring.
I mean why would they? The lotta them have seen their bosses fight, and if they ran into a Dark-Side User, the two of them probably told the lotta them that killing is preferable
@@matthewbrune5490 they should have used stun shots cuz those can't be reflected back to them. and when he is hit he can't do anything, but when hit with a lethal shot most jedi can survive it if they are hit with just 1 shot if it isn't on the head, so in that case he could still kill a lot of the clones, while with stun shots if only 1 hits he is fully stunned and can't do anything, so after he is stunned they could choose to either kill him or lock him up
@@Impulse-wu3yo nah because stun shots travel way slower than lethal blaster fire. You might not be able to deflect stuns back at them but u can still block the stun blasts from hitting u with a lightsaber, we’ve seen this with Ashoka. Also keep in mind that Krell literally has two double bladed lightsabers if lethal shots weren’t doing anything then stuns won’t either. Only when he fell from the creatures grasp and was raised then he was stunned.
I love how Rex gives them an out first- this is probably the first time in their lives anyone has ever given them a choice whether or not to fight. But they all step forward anyway without hesitation, because I this is personal, and if there was any fight in the world any of them could choose, they would choose this one and consider it an honor.
By this time Rex has already seen what happens with Slick. He believes his brothers deserve a chance. Even though he saw Cut as a deserter, he respected his choice.
@@kylescott3769 Unfortunately, yes. The big difference between here & later is that Rex gave them a choice & also gave Krell the chance to surrender before he attacked & they opened fire in turn. When Order 66 was given & Operation Knightfall commenced, the Clones were turned into unthinking, programmable droids, forced to carry out their orders to the letter.
501, 212 st. under attack siege enhanted forrest by separatist leader pong krell. captain rex , general skywalker , princess arendlle , commander cody , general kenobi.
“Captain Rex, this is Kenobi. Anakin’s returning soon. How goes your campaign?” “Well, sir, we just executed General Krell for treason.” “wait, WHAT?!” “Didn’t your men with us tell you about this?”
@@ouabain both Anakin and Obi Wan are the dads Middle School baseball games and Rex and Cody are bffs too with Boil and Echo as their little brothers who are also bffs
I also find an interesting how Tup set to stun, implying that he didn’t have the guts to kill Krell even though he was justified. So when he finally did kill a Jedi for no particular reason it was a clear giveaway that he wasn’t acting in full control of himself.
I find it hard to imagine that any jedi would have trouble taking down krell. He is almost 8 feet tall, has two double lightsabers with supreme speed, and 6 limbs to use. Its hard to imagine that the clones even took him down
By all indications, Krell is nothing at all particularly special for a Jedi bar his very unique biology giving him extra limbs, leverage, and likely superhuman strength. Which is neat and all, but Grevious had basically all of this and more, and at least as TCW puts it, Grevious is a fucking worthless pushover for High Council members, at least.
@@papapalps2415 I mean, TCW isn't exactly a paragon of lightsaber combat; Clone Wars had Grievous wiping the floor with Ki-Adi-Mundi, Shaak Ti, and Aayla Secura at the same time.
@@m3gusta17 Well, they probably figured out that they maaaaybe went a bit overboard with CW Grievous. The only justification I could think of is that Grievous was younger and he was in his element (darkness, enclosed space, lots of places to scurry to after attacking). RotS Anakin, TCW Obi-Wan, Mace Windu, Yoda, or Dooku...well, any of them would wipe the floor with prime Grievous. Hell, Rebels Ahsoka probably could as well. He's just a very, very skilled lighstaber duelist, but without force -bullshit- powers to back up his shortcomings. Honestly, he's up there with the best overall fighters alongside Legends Fett.
I find it interesting that it’s Tup who defeats him and Dogma who kills him, because Tup (as far as I know) is basically a shiny at this point and Dogma has probably never considered doing something like that in his life. In their own ways, these two are the polar opposites of freethinking veterans like Rex and Fives and Jesse, who have spent the whole arc verbalizing Krell’s injustices. They have never experienced anything like this and don’t really have words for it, unlike Rex and Jesse, who have been part of the 501st basically from the beginning, or Fives, who has maybe been through more emotionally than any of his brothers- these veterans, whose rage is rounded and informed and unshakable. It’s not them who stop Krell. It’s Tup and Dogma, who’s rage is unbridled and consuming. Theirs is the wrath of children wronged, the counterpoint to the wrath of veterans wronged, who will gaze at the perpetrator with the weight of history in their glares and unshakable in their identity. No, the wrath of children is one that strikes with everything because they don’t know how else to, the wrath that is all the more dangerous to people like Krell, who would have compensated for a veteran’s wrath. Just something to think about.
@@birch8109 honestly I'd guess the same thing, specifically around when Rex said "treason against the republic" Tup's body language gave off order 66 vibes
@@birch8109 that would make sense cause his chip went faulty like Palpatine wanted. When palpatine learned of the faulty chip via Fives. During that conversation the chancellor tried to kill fives but fives escapes. Then the chancellor says fives attacked him, which led to the chancellor having the coruscant guard clones go to apprehend fives which in turn lead to his death
"It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do... Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word..."
@tgtterrorizor3407 not when we marched into the command center not when the orders came down and not when we fired on general krell Not a word Except dogma he had to go ruin everything
Just saw this episode two days ago. I noticed Tupps face when Rex mentioned arresting Krell...then I was like oh damn was that foreshadowing his chip malfunction?
This was one of Sidious’ grandest mistakes. Yeah they cost more, but they’d be programmed-from-birth, battle-hardened veterans who’ve already killed Jedi! Stormtroopers can’t even get their target once!
@@homelesslukeskywalker7277 I’d like to think there’s probably an Advanced class/ROTC program on Kamino that the clones take while training. Many clones like Rex,Cody,Fox,Wolfe take it and immediately become Experienced Officers while other clones like fives,echo,hardcase,tup who aren’t ready for such responsibilities just go on to be enlisted soldiers!!
@@kelvinbremont1341 clone officers are bred from infancy to be commanders most of the time, and incredible enlisted ones such as Rex are promoted by their respective generals. Hence, the 'CC' Prefix. It stands for clone commander, Cody has it. Meanwhile Rex has CT, which is just clone trooper.
Maybe because they werent ready to be gunned down by their own men. The shock and disbelief overwhelmed the Jedi at that moment. We see Yoda and Obi Wan being able to dispatch an entire clone force guarding the Jedi Temple without breaking a sweat.
Imagine meeting or going out with your friends every day for 2 or 3 years and some day they just decide to take a gun and shoot at you and especially if there are like 8 people doing that at the same time ofc it’s hard to believe even for a jedi
And most Jedi frankly probably aren't at his level, he's probably pretty close to the level of those on the console it seems, to me anyway, and most of them where completely sidelined by their clones as a sudden turn during a battle, so though we only see a few clones, they actually had whatever troops where following them and had their minds on any nearby separatists forces. Plus what we see in the movie probably got cut for budget reasons, in some storyboard scenes it them fighting dozens of clones or one guy literally had the tank he was riding on get blown up.
Krell, Tarkin, Rampart, Orn Free Taa, Governor Pryce, Constantine, Gar Saxon and Tiber Saxon are the most jerks and hated characters I hated in Star Wars history
If I’m being honest I think palpatine influenced him through the force and used him as a test for the clones to really see if they were up to the challenge that awaited them of killing ALL the Jedi if they could take on this 4 armed wielder by themselves then they could be relied on for the real thing. 3:21 💀
I just can’t get over how the guy who voices Krell (one of the most hated characters in the show) also acted as one of the most beloved videogame characters (telltales TWD)
One of the coolest scenes in this series. Pre-Order 66 but its kinda funny how they all struggled against this single jedi and then later on when the real order 66 happend they had no problem taking out 10 Jedis at once
Lets see why that is... Pong Krell is over 7 ft tall, has 4 arms, wields 2 double bladed lightsabers and doesn't even think the clones are living beings and kills them without mercy. Meanwhile other Jedi are about the same height (5/6 ft roughly), only have one lightsaber and have developed attachments to the clones to where they didn't want to kill them. Its all about intent; when Obi Wan and Yoda decided to go back to the temple and forsake the clones, they had no issues killing them all either so they pulled through.
What i love the most is that NONE of the clones hesitated and stepped forward AT THE SAME TIME. They were ALL on the same page, they mightve had different thoughts about it but they all were ready
One of my favourite parts in the entire series. One of my favourite lines when he jumps from the window and with all the clones watching, the one at the front just shouting "Get him!" before they all open fire, loved that since I was kid. Adore the clones and growing up with Clone Wars made me love them even more
Krell: I will not be undermine by creature bred in some laboratory!! also Krell: [got lure by some cheap taunt of said creature bred in some laboratory]
Nah... don't forget Anakin was leading them. Anakin made sure to take on the strongest Jedi himself, and leave the weaker ones to the clones. The only exception was the younglings he found hiding in the council chambers. Anakin vs Krell would be one hell of a fight, but Anakin would eventually win.
@@nahor88 Why would somebody functionally at Yoda-level, and overall one of the strongest characters in the entire franchise and in universe history, especially by the time of Operation Knightfall, have a 'hard fight' with somebody who is, for all intents and purposes, nobody but an average Jedi Master with some add-ons?
It's so crazy how we get a preview of Order 66. Even a jedi as powerful as Krell and fully aware that the clones had turned against him STILL fell to their sheer numbers and strategic planning, the clones really were a force to be feared, shame they were replaced by storm troopers aka potato aim.
What? Krell easily wiped them out despite their numbers. It wasn't their sheer numbers that got Krell, it was one clone that used a trick on him (3:58). That which eventually led to his downfall. Krell could have easily force pulled Tup and stab him with his lightsaber, and then escape. Krell was his own worst enemy
This has to be my favorite arc in the series, we got to see a prototype order 66 in a way because of this arc before we even knew we were going to get a order 66 episode almost 10 years after the show was canceled.
I have a theory, what if the moment where Tup stunned Krell was the moment that his inhibitor chip began to fail? From what I saw, he was the only clone who managed to hit Krell with a blast of any kind. So maybe, by stunning him, it caused the chip to get infected. Crazy theory but it's just a thought that I came up with.
Before his motives were revealed I thought Krell foresaw Order 66 and decided to kill as many clones as possible to prevent it. So this makes two times in the series Fives tried warning people of a threat, was ignored, then proven right. First with Krell then Order 66. Poor Fives man.
Had the same idea despite the high clone casuality rates that fact that most of his sucicde missions ended up victories made it a convient cover so nobody would question his loyalty
Well, let's start with the fact that if this were the case, then Krell would not have been on this sector of the front. But if they were on the 1st site, then Krell would not have betrayed the republic and picked up another moment.
I can only imagine how pissed Anakin was when he learned about what happened. And probably would have chewed out Palpatine for taking him away when this happened.
I see this as a major turning point in the relationship between the Jedi and the clones. Regarding the clones, a lot of them would've begun to see the Jedi in a very unfavorable light. To a certain extent, all the Jedi, even Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Ahsoka viewed the clones as soldiers created to fight and die in this war ahead of them being living breathing people. Even if it was subconscious they saw clones dying as just part of the war because of that disconnect between seeing them as soldiers born to fight and as people. This is on full display when during the Citadel arc, the Jedi Evan Piel gets a full funeral while none of the clones are given much consideration by anyone other than their fellow clones. And after Umbara there's no way the clones aren't gonna see Krell's uncaring attitude towards them in the other Jedi. With the Jedi, one of two things would happen. Jedi like Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Ahsoka would see how callously Krell tossed away clone lives and how their troops would view them as a result and realize that to some degree they held the same mindset of not quite seeing the clones as more than soldiers born to fight and die that Krell did and work to change that. Other Jedi would see the clones so easily turning on a Jedi as a possible threat and it would cause further divisions between the clones and the Jedi. The ultimate result would be some Jedi and clones who had really strong bonds and some where the clones and Jedi were distrustful of one another
True. I know some fans have had issues with the inhibitor chips because it seems like a cop out (and maybe it is). But if you think about, there is some logic behind it. I mean, I can understand why clones who hated their Jedi masters would obey Order 66 without much hesitation. But then you got clones who actually liked their Jedi like Obi Wan, Ahsoka, Plo Koon, Aayla Secura etc. And those clones would know that those particular Jedi would never commit treason even if the Council itself did. So because of that, if Order 66 was left up to free will there is no way their clones would shoot them down without hesitation. Did you see how Rex tried to resist the chip when it triggered to attack Ahsoka? That's sheer proof that, left up to his own devices, Rex would never turn of Ahsoka, or any of the other clones who painted their helmets in honor of her. Then there's Plo Koons famous line of how he doesn't see clones as expendables. He valued them as real living beings and took great care to keep his battalions casualties down to a minimum. With how much Plo Koon cared for his clones, there's no way in hell his battalion would shoot him down to kill if they weren't forced to do it. And Aayla's battalion, based off the book, made it clear from the narrative that they didn't want to kill her but had no choice. All they could do was make sure she died quick and painlessly which is why they kept firing on her even after she was clearly dead.
It looks like the Clones suddenly have Stormtrooper aim, but I like to think that because General Krell has 4 arms, he’s able to use the force to throw off their aim
"What I'm proposing is highly treasonous." Arresting a person who intentionally staged a friendly-fire incident isn't called treason Rex, it's called procedure.
If Krell had simply remained silent, then obviously no thanks would have been given to all the participants in the rebellion, and most likely Rex would have been executed for treason, and everyone who participated would have received very serious punishments.
Im just gonna say this now but What would happen if Krell was still alive and was in the Jedi Temple during Order 66? How many clones will he kill? Will he go on a clone killing frenzy? Will he win against anakin?
....He dies? The entirety (or nearly the entirety, anyhow) of the 501st Legion, one of if not THE most elite units in the entire galaxy, meaning thousands of clones, were present at the Temple. Krell took on, at most, a few dozen clones here. His biology gives him some unique advantages, but he dies to clones ganking him, and if that fails, then Vader casually steamrolls him. He may kill a few dozen or whatever, but they can afford to just drown him in bodies if they want.
I always wonder how Krell would have done if he was still a Jedi and had survived for Order 66. Like if he can take on the 501st and 212th on his own, how would he have faired against the entire army or the Republic?
Krell: “It’s treason then.”
Palpatine: WHERE’S MY PEN?!?!
Write that down! Write that down!!
@@ianmccasland3919 HURRY
@@ianmccasland3919 dew it
@@ianmccasland3919 dammit I thought that the moment I saw the comment and you beat me to it
0:19 is one of my favorite moments in the series. It’s a small thing but it shows that the Clones will stand by their brothers through thick and thin. That’s what brothers are supposed to do.
Amen
Truth.
Yes yes clone brothers stand and jerk each other off through thick and thin...
Yeah they don't make it so rex just doesn't mention it
Totally not necessary for the plot but great to show how it's a freedom operation
But imagine if someone went no lol i'm just gonna head out bye (kinda what dogma did)
One of the many ways they are better than Stormtroopers.
0:32 that’s how they looked under their helmets during order 66... vicious
The Clones wanted Payback against Krell they werent gonna let them get away with it
Only for some even some clone trooper other than Rex hesitated while the order was given
@Deshawn Winn Rex has always had a strong will. He did resist a mind trick from Ventress in the movie after all.
Ironic this comment also has 66 likes:D
Because rex didn’t want to kill his genral because he was so loyal
This is like Order 66, but justified.
It's also thematically like the inverse of Order 66. This time the Clones are the ones who feel betrayed, through their entire lives they'd worked with Jedi, trusted them with their lives, just as many Jedi trusted the clones with theirs, and Krell betrayed that trust and actively tried to kill his own men. And unlike the clones, he had no chip in his brain that made him do it, he chose to. It's really unforgivable.
@@insanegamer23899 the non chip Clones would try to kill Krell Krell is the one jedi who Clones didnt need the Chips to kill
This just shows that if the Jedi had known about order 66 a second before it happened they would not have been defeated, did you see how much clones he was able to take out before he was defeated, order 66 should not have worked as well as it did.
@@notjord317 On top of that not every Jedi was Obi Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker. Most clones had a strictly professional relationship with their Jedi generals so most were not that close, and most Jedi were not the caliber of leaders as the main Jedi were. Also some Jedi had betrayed the republic so to the majority of Clones it seemed justified, as if there were another Krell. Depended on the unit, some were controlled by the chip, others wouldn’t of needed it. The Jedis that were close to their soldiers were surprised if anything which is why most didn’t fight back.
This is exactly what Order 66 was for... or it was the official reason given.
I feel like Dave Filoni was trying to show us in this scene what would happened if Pong Krell never betray the jedi and saw order 66. He would be a massive tank.
There was a Jedi master by the name of Jaro Tapal in the new Star Wars game “Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order” Who I’d say is a massive tank compared to Pong Krell. Who held off his own against a whole bunch of clones during order 66 but unfortunately died.
@@rbwtn No, I think Pong Krell would beat Jaro Tapal
They were going at him with the intent of capturing him, something a lot harder then going for the kill.
@@RandomClips22023 In a lightsaber duel yes,but if Jaro Tapal used the force the way he used it in the game Krell gets defeated.
@@DeadEye364 I don’t think they where trying to capture him until the end. For the most part they were shooting countless bolts with the intent to kill and he still wrecked them
1:16 I bet palpatine sensing and hearing krell using his line made him super furious
technically Krell said it first
More like "Ooo, that's a good one... Might have to use that at some point." seeing as how he hadn't said it yet in the timeline.
Notice when the clones start shooting at Krell.
_Not a single one set their blaster to stun_
They could have all gotten away with it too
I like the added detail that Tup didn’t have the guts the shoot to kill on a Jedi general even though he knows it’s justified. Making his eventual Jedi kill all the more jarring.
I mean why would they? The lotta them have seen their bosses fight, and if they ran into a Dark-Side User, the two of them probably told the lotta them that killing is preferable
@@matthewbrune5490 they should have used stun shots cuz those can't be reflected back to them. and when he is hit he can't do anything, but when hit with a lethal shot most jedi can survive it if they are hit with just 1 shot if it isn't on the head, so in that case he could still kill a lot of the clones, while with stun shots if only 1 hits he is fully stunned and can't do anything, so after he is stunned they could choose to either kill him or lock him up
@@Impulse-wu3yo nah because stun shots travel way slower than lethal blaster fire. You might not be able to deflect stuns back at them but u can still block the stun blasts from hitting u with a lightsaber, we’ve seen this with Ashoka. Also keep in mind that Krell literally has two double bladed lightsabers if lethal shots weren’t doing anything then stuns won’t either. Only when he fell from the creatures grasp and was raised then he was stunned.
I love how Rex gives them an out first- this is probably the first time in their lives anyone has ever given them a choice whether or not to fight. But they all step forward anyway without hesitation, because I this is personal, and if there was any fight in the world any of them could choose, they would choose this one and consider it an honor.
By this time Rex has already seen what happens with Slick. He believes his brothers deserve a chance. Even though he saw Cut as a deserter, he respected his choice.
Very true, unfortunately however, it wouldn’t be the last time the 501st were ordered to fire on Jedi.
@@kylescott3769 Unfortunately, yes. The big difference between here & later is that Rex gave them a choice & also gave Krell the chance to surrender before he attacked & they opened fire in turn. When Order 66 was given & Operation Knightfall commenced, the Clones were turned into unthinking, programmable droids, forced to carry out their orders to the letter.
They are soldiers, and like every soldier, they are bound by honor
0:31
Rex says arrest, but Tup's face wants to put Krell's head on a pike
Rex says arrest, but not a single clone had their DC-15s set to stun in the command room. They reaaally wanted to kill him.
They had good reason at least. I'm pretty sure this is how it felt to the clones that weren't close to thier Jedi during Order 66.
@@commanderbacara225even Rex didn't seem to care if they killed him
The 501st and the 212th have been through a lot of shit, but this takes the cake.
501, 212 they visit party arendlle castle. for cornation day
they are party dance.
501st legion severnt to princess elsa
she will command lead her army.
501, 212 battle yaberna.
as two general kenobi. skywalker with her princess arendlle.
501 , 212 they product enhanted forrest , turndns villige.
use imperial millttry faclity base
at enchanted forrest.
501, 212 st. under attack siege enhanted forrest by separatist leader pong krell. captain rex , general skywalker , princess arendlle , commander cody , general kenobi.
“Captain Rex, this is Kenobi. Anakin’s returning soon. How goes your campaign?”
“Well, sir, we just executed General Krell for treason.”
“wait, WHAT?!”
“Didn’t your men with us tell you about this?”
Ironically their Generals would fight on Mustafar
@@haydenfowle7576 oh shoot, that’s some serious foreshadowing
@@ouabain both Anakin and Obi Wan are the dads Middle School baseball games and Rex and Cody are bffs too with Boil and Echo as their little brothers who are also bffs
This could have gotten a lot worse for Krell if Anakin came back.
@@14mespider9 Safe to say that Anakin would have been furious and gave Krell likely a very brutal death.
0:31
Tup’s snare is so brilliant. 😠
That one clone in the back smiling. 🙂
@@thomaskerei1651 The clankers and Umbarans were nothing to that clone. He's happy he finally got a challenge. lol
Tup really wants to kill Krell so badly.
“We arrest him for treason”
**zooms on the First clone that eventually kills a jedi**
Second, after Dogma.
@liaml.e.5964 that's a technicality krell wasn't exactly a jedi anymore at that point
I cant believe I just realized that Tup was the one shooting Krell. Thats some next level forshadowing
Same with the 501st and the 212th being the first one's to bring down a jedi.
Definitely now you mentioned it
I also find an interesting how Tup set to stun, implying that he didn’t have the guts to kill Krell even though he was justified. So when he finally did kill a Jedi for no particular reason it was a clear giveaway that he wasn’t acting in full control of himself.
When did Tup kill?
@@bryhs5705 first episode of the sixth season on Ringo Vinda
I will not be undermined by creatures bred in some laboratory.
I'm speechless
That’s kind of clonophobic
tfw you realize every individual clone trooper you've grown attached to were indeed bred in a laboratory
@@Southhs when I said "I'm speechless", I mean that I'm speechless that he would dare say something that mean
Krell is canceled
I replayed the video and read this at the same time krell said this line
0:32 Damn that trooper behind tup has been dying to kill a Jedi
He's like, "finally, about damn time"
He have been waiting for that moment 😂
Nah cus the slight smile that he has. He’s been waiting for that option!
Nah tup's the one dying to kill a jedi he even gets to do it a bit later in the series :)
@@waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3 Ooo, too soon, buddy.
I find it hard to imagine that any jedi would have trouble taking down krell. He is almost 8 feet tall, has two double lightsabers with supreme speed, and 6 limbs to use. Its hard to imagine that the clones even took him down
Top jedis probably smoke him, like pretty much any jedi we saw get executed in the movie but the avg jedi dies ofc
By all indications, Krell is nothing at all particularly special for a Jedi bar his very unique biology giving him extra limbs, leverage, and likely superhuman strength. Which is neat and all, but Grevious had basically all of this and more, and at least as TCW puts it, Grevious is a fucking worthless pushover for High Council members, at least.
@@papapalps2415 I mean, TCW isn't exactly a paragon of lightsaber combat; Clone Wars had Grievous wiping the floor with Ki-Adi-Mundi, Shaak Ti, and Aayla Secura at the same time.
I think you mean, you find it IMPOSSIBLE that any jedi could take Krell.
@@m3gusta17 Well, they probably figured out that they maaaaybe went a bit overboard with CW Grievous. The only justification I could think of is that Grievous was younger and he was in his element (darkness, enclosed space, lots of places to scurry to after attacking).
RotS Anakin, TCW Obi-Wan, Mace Windu, Yoda, or Dooku...well, any of them would wipe the floor with prime Grievous. Hell, Rebels Ahsoka probably could as well.
He's just a very, very skilled lighstaber duelist, but without force -bullshit- powers to back up his shortcomings. Honestly, he's up there with the best overall fighters alongside Legends Fett.
When you hear a Clone yell " Get Him!" Shits about to go down
2:14 and 3:22
I find it interesting that it’s Tup who defeats him and Dogma who kills him, because Tup (as far as I know) is basically a shiny at this point and Dogma has probably never considered doing something like that in his life. In their own ways, these two are the polar opposites of freethinking veterans like Rex and Fives and Jesse, who have spent the whole arc verbalizing Krell’s injustices. They have never experienced anything like this and don’t really have words for it, unlike Rex and Jesse, who have been part of the 501st basically from the beginning, or Fives, who has maybe been through more emotionally than any of his brothers- these veterans, whose rage is rounded and informed and unshakable. It’s not them who stop Krell. It’s Tup and Dogma, who’s rage is unbridled and consuming. Theirs is the wrath of children wronged, the counterpoint to the wrath of veterans wronged, who will gaze at the perpetrator with the weight of history in their glares and unshakable in their identity. No, the wrath of children is one that strikes with everything because they don’t know how else to, the wrath that is all the more dangerous to people like Krell, who would have compensated for a veteran’s wrath. Just something to think about.
Also interesting because someone suggested that Tup shooting Krell might be why his inhibitor chip activated prematurely
@@birch8109 honestly I'd guess the same thing, specifically around when Rex said "treason against the republic" Tup's body language gave off order 66 vibes
@@birch8109 that would make sense cause his chip went faulty like Palpatine wanted. When palpatine learned of the faulty chip via Fives. During that conversation the chancellor tried to kill fives but fives escapes. Then the chancellor says fives attacked him, which led to the chancellor having the coruscant guard clones go to apprehend fives which in turn lead to his death
Very interesting and well put together point, so true. In a way what you describe as veterans rage is more predictable
English teachers be like
0:39 is possibly one of the coolest shots in star wars.
0:57 no questions asked, they just take the rifles knowing what was about to go down.
That’s a carbine
"It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do... Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word..."
@tgtterrorizor3407 not when we marched into the command center not when the orders came down and not when we fired on general krell
Not a word
Except dogma he had to go ruin everything
If Krell never turned evil, he would be alive and he would’ve dealt with Order 66 pretty well
Not true.. he became a dark jedi the moment he betrayed.. he lost all qualities of being a jedi at this point.
@@aquariussarron5444 Read the comment again.
If krell was Alive then the jedi could of survived Order 66 since he would of told them his vision
@@michaelpham2953 Exactly
If I’m not mistaken his vision is why he turned into a dark Jedi
2:42 this shit turned into Predator real quick
0:36 me and the boys walking in to get our orders of food
Just saw this episode two days ago. I noticed Tupps face when Rex mentioned arresting Krell...then I was like oh damn was that foreshadowing his chip malfunction?
"General Krell. You're being relieved of duty."
"It's Tree Zen then."
**whips out Bonsai tree**
Clones force pushed into wall: getting back up
Stormtroopers getting force pushed into wall: dead
Look closely in the background some got knocked out by the push
@@manjia938 true, but there not dead
This was one of Sidious’ grandest mistakes. Yeah they cost more, but they’d be programmed-from-birth, battle-hardened veterans who’ve already killed Jedi! Stormtroopers can’t even get their target once!
1:16 Palpatine: "hey! This is my line not yours…"
Tup should get promoted to Lieutenant.
He got promoted to forerunner
I never get the ranking system of GRA. Since Captain Rex is an officer rank but we got bad batch hunter being a sergeant which is a enlisted rank.
huh; didn't consider that
not sure if Lieutenant's the right rank, but I'm willing to be he was promoted by the events of Se6
@@homelesslukeskywalker7277 I’d like to think there’s probably an Advanced class/ROTC program on Kamino that the clones take while training. Many clones like Rex,Cody,Fox,Wolfe take it and immediately become Experienced Officers while other clones like fives,echo,hardcase,tup who aren’t ready for such responsibilities just go on to be enlisted soldiers!!
@@kelvinbremont1341 clone officers are bred from infancy to be commanders most of the time, and incredible enlisted ones such as Rex are promoted by their respective generals. Hence, the 'CC' Prefix. It stands for clone commander, Cody has it. Meanwhile Rex has CT, which is just clone trooper.
And then order 66 came down, one Jedi vs about 6 - 10 clones and got rekt
Maybe because they werent ready to be gunned down by their own men. The shock and disbelief overwhelmed the Jedi at that moment.
We see Yoda and Obi Wan being able to dispatch an entire clone force guarding the Jedi Temple without breaking a sweat.
Imagine meeting or going out with your friends every day for 2 or 3 years and some day they just decide to take a gun and shoot at you and especially if there are like 8 people doing that at the same time ofc it’s hard to believe even for a jedi
But were also talking about a guy with two double bladed lightsabers
Also he saw it coming as well
And most Jedi frankly probably aren't at his level, he's probably pretty close to the level of those on the console it seems, to me anyway, and most of them where completely sidelined by their clones as a sudden turn during a battle, so though we only see a few clones, they actually had whatever troops where following them and had their minds on any nearby separatists forces. Plus what we see in the movie probably got cut for budget reasons, in some storyboard scenes it them fighting dozens of clones or one guy literally had the tank he was riding on get blown up.
*it was estimated that the only ones who were capable of withstanding general krell in a battle were yoda & mace windu*
1:54 & 1:59 clone: "let me try getting closer, that's a good trick."
Krell is the galaxies biggest jerk,
you can tell he'd be on of the hugest threats too if it werent for him getting blasted.
Krell, Tarkin, Rampart, Orn Free Taa, Governor Pryce, Constantine, Gar Saxon and Tiber Saxon are the most jerks and hated characters I hated in Star Wars history
1:59
CT-1337 sees the pretty lights and wants to touch them.
It’s treason then
Wait palpatine didn't say it first it was him
4:44 Pong Krell’s groan tho😂
If I’m being honest I think palpatine influenced him through the force and used him as a test for the clones to really see if they were up to the challenge that awaited them of killing ALL the Jedi if they could take on this 4 armed wielder by themselves then they could be relied on for the real thing.
3:21 💀
0:30 one of the last times we see Tup alive and healthy
I just can’t get over how the guy who voices Krell (one of the most hated characters in the show) also acted as one of the most beloved videogame characters (telltales TWD)
"I will not be undermined by creatures bred in some laboratory!"
Gets undermined by creatures bred in some laboratory
Clone troopers screen:
Shared exp: enemy capture +200
*later
Elimination +500
The guy who stunned him must have gotten the most xp
Rex’s entrance to the base was absolutely cold
One of the coolest scenes in this series. Pre-Order 66 but its kinda funny how they all struggled against this single jedi and then later on when the real order 66 happend they had no problem taking out 10 Jedis at once
Lets see why that is...
Pong Krell is over 7 ft tall, has 4 arms, wields 2 double bladed lightsabers and doesn't even think the clones are living beings and kills them without mercy.
Meanwhile other Jedi are about the same height (5/6 ft roughly), only have one lightsaber and have developed attachments to the clones to where they didn't want to kill them.
Its all about intent; when Obi Wan and Yoda decided to go back to the temple and forsake the clones, they had no issues killing them all either so they pulled through.
What i love the most is that NONE of the clones hesitated and stepped forward AT THE SAME TIME. They were ALL on the same page, they mightve had different thoughts about it but they all were ready
That clone next to Tup at 0:30 likes the idea of arresting Krell
One of my favourite parts in the entire series. One of my favourite lines when he jumps from the window and with all the clones watching, the one at the front just shouting "Get him!" before they all open fire, loved that since I was kid. Adore the clones and growing up with Clone Wars made me love them even more
"Ahahaha"
I lost it Whenever krell laughed
When you realize that Pong Krell said its treason then first
Fans and palpatine: impossible!
Man, Krell's voice actor is having SOO much fun at 2:58
Krell: I will not be undermine by creature bred in some laboratory!!
also Krell: [got lure by some cheap taunt of said creature bred in some laboratory]
bruh so true omg. TUP is 500 ip
Pong Krell: I’m not locked in here with yo, [ignites lightsabers] *YOURE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!*
This episode was probably the most riveting, it was probably some of the most true evil we witnessed
Imagine if pong krell was still a Jedi and was at the Jedi temple. Those clones would have been fucked
Nah... don't forget Anakin was leading them. Anakin made sure to take on the strongest Jedi himself, and leave the weaker ones to the clones. The only exception was the younglings he found hiding in the council chambers.
Anakin vs Krell would be one hell of a fight, but Anakin would eventually win.
@@nahor88 Why would somebody functionally at Yoda-level, and overall one of the strongest characters in the entire franchise and in universe history, especially by the time of Operation Knightfall, have a 'hard fight' with somebody who is, for all intents and purposes, nobody but an average Jedi Master with some add-ons?
@@papapalps2415 idk, nahor88 was on star crack maybe
1:52
Jesus christ those saber noises
1:58
Wubwubwub
It's so crazy how we get a preview of Order 66. Even a jedi as powerful as Krell and fully aware that the clones had turned against him STILL fell to their sheer numbers and strategic planning, the clones really were a force to be feared, shame they were replaced by storm troopers aka potato aim.
What? Krell easily wiped them out despite their numbers. It wasn't their sheer numbers that got Krell, it was one clone that used a trick on him (3:58). That which eventually led to his downfall. Krell could have easily force pulled Tup and stab him with his lightsaber, and then escape. Krell was his own worst enemy
1:51 So Badass! The sounds are epic too!
This has to be my favorite arc in the series, we got to see a prototype order 66 in a way because of this arc before we even knew we were going to get a order 66 episode almost 10 years after the show was canceled.
This is pretty much order 66 the correct way
4:08 read a post abt how watching tup's body language could imply he didn't think he was also going to survive that maneuver and it. crumbles me.
The music in this whole scene is so good it sounds like it should be for a horror movie 😆 Especially when they went to get Fives and Jesse
I honestly didn't notice the clone next to Tup smiling until now lol
Looks like someone's excited to hunt a Jedi 😏😂
I will not be undermined by creatures bread in some laboratory then gets undermined
Good line tho
“It’s treason then”
*Initiates Sith scream*
unpopular opinion: when you first saw ROTS and then this scene, without any other TCW-moment ... you are truely satisfied
@1:05 I didn’t realize Appo was there too! (On the left)
I feel they should have played order 66 March when they were marching to Krell
This is genuinely one of my favourite scenes in all of Star Wars.
Shows most hit inside the same team because it's more effective, just like real life
“It’s treason then…” *Revenge of the Sith flashbacks*
Walking towards the guy swinging the lightsabers when you have a ranged weapon
Now they’re thinking with portals
Krell would have been fucked and so many clones' lives spared if they'd just all opened fire with stunners instead of mouthing off at him
Everyone's thinking, "wow, this feels... natural to me"
I think we could all learn a valuable lesson from this. Blind loyalty makes you a pawn to others and will get you killed one day.
Yup. But Dogma learned his lesson and survived the empire and eventually became a rebel commander. Legend
@@manjia938 Really? If that's the case maybe we'll see him in the Bad Batch.
@@ryangamble6697 I hope
The amount of trust Rex gave tup was the reason why I like Rex and the clones
If Krell knew about Order 66, this would seem like he was justified, either way.
I have a theory, what if the moment where Tup stunned Krell was the moment that his inhibitor chip began to fail? From what I saw, he was the only clone who managed to hit Krell with a blast of any kind. So maybe, by stunning him, it caused the chip to get infected.
Crazy theory but it's just a thought that I came up with.
"But before we arrest him we gotta get in a really cool formation first"
0:31 Everybody pointing out of Tup's face while the one behind him is just casually smiling or lenny face
“It’s treason, then”. Why does that sound so familiar 😁
The 212th clone who charged Krell but died is a beast!
Krell: You Dare To Attack A Jedi!?!
Malins: I Planed To *Monster Sharp Teeth Reveals And Roars To Engaged*
0:36
the perfect time to play the Jedi Temple March or the Imperial March
Imagine this guy as an inquisitor. Two of those spinning lightsabers
His lightsabers are bigger than the average saber too, due to Krell's large size. Notice how thick his lightsaber blade is
“Lore him towards tup” I guess they have a minimap or something
This is like the very Early Stage of Order 66
Before his motives were revealed I thought Krell foresaw Order 66 and decided to kill as many clones as possible to prevent it.
So this makes two times in the series Fives tried warning people of a threat, was ignored, then proven right. First with Krell then Order 66. Poor Fives man.
Had the same idea despite the high clone casuality rates that fact that most of his sucicde missions ended up victories made it a convient cover so nobody would question his loyalty
Possible.
That would have been interesting
Imagine if Anakin and obi-wan were here too alongside the 501st and 212th
A lot of lives would’ve been saved that’s forsure
Well, let's start with the fact that if this were the case, then Krell would not have been on this sector of the front.
But if they were on the 1st site, then Krell would not have betrayed the republic and picked up another moment.
I absolutely hated Krell, but I have to admit... he is a total badass.
0:36 - 0:43 Me and the boys About to play a Dodgeball tournament.
I wish they did a follow up scene of rex discussing this treason with kenobi and the counsel it honestly would've been interesting to see
I can only imagine how pissed Anakin was when he learned about what happened. And probably would have chewed out Palpatine for taking him away when this happened.
0:39 me and bois going into BF
0:31
Tup: *angry
Background clone: :)))))
He was happy to kill a jedi
I see this as a major turning point in the relationship between the Jedi and the clones.
Regarding the clones, a lot of them would've begun to see the Jedi in a very unfavorable light. To a certain extent, all the Jedi, even Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Ahsoka viewed the clones as soldiers created to fight and die in this war ahead of them being living breathing people. Even if it was subconscious they saw clones dying as just part of the war because of that disconnect between seeing them as soldiers born to fight and as people. This is on full display when during the Citadel arc, the Jedi Evan Piel gets a full funeral while none of the clones are given much consideration by anyone other than their fellow clones. And after Umbara there's no way the clones aren't gonna see Krell's uncaring attitude towards them in the other Jedi.
With the Jedi, one of two things would happen. Jedi like Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Ahsoka would see how callously Krell tossed away clone lives and how their troops would view them as a result and realize that to some degree they held the same mindset of not quite seeing the clones as more than soldiers born to fight and die that Krell did and work to change that. Other Jedi would see the clones so easily turning on a Jedi as a possible threat and it would cause further divisions between the clones and the Jedi.
The ultimate result would be some Jedi and clones who had really strong bonds and some where the clones and Jedi were distrustful of one another
True. I know some fans have had issues with the inhibitor chips because it seems like a cop out (and maybe it is). But if you think about, there is some logic behind it. I mean, I can understand why clones who hated their Jedi masters would obey Order 66 without much hesitation. But then you got clones who actually liked their Jedi like Obi Wan, Ahsoka, Plo Koon, Aayla Secura etc. And those clones would know that those particular Jedi would never commit treason even if the Council itself did. So because of that, if Order 66 was left up to free will there is no way their clones would shoot them down without hesitation. Did you see how Rex tried to resist the chip when it triggered to attack Ahsoka? That's sheer proof that, left up to his own devices, Rex would never turn of Ahsoka, or any of the other clones who painted their helmets in honor of her.
Then there's Plo Koons famous line of how he doesn't see clones as expendables. He valued them as real living beings and took great care to keep his battalions casualties down to a minimum. With how much Plo Koon cared for his clones, there's no way in hell his battalion would shoot him down to kill if they weren't forced to do it. And Aayla's battalion, based off the book, made it clear from the narrative that they didn't want to kill her but had no choice. All they could do was make sure she died quick and painlessly which is why they kept firing on her even after she was clearly dead.
Anyone else notice the clone smiling in the back, at the beginning when Rex says they arrest Krell? 😂😂
Dang! Space Lee Everett is a menace!
It looks like the Clones suddenly have Stormtrooper aim, but I like to think that because General Krell has 4 arms, he’s able to use the force to throw off their aim
Exactly. Krell is a tank because he's over 7ft tall, has 4 arms and wields 2 double bladed lightsabers.
"What I'm proposing is highly treasonous."
Arresting a person who intentionally staged a friendly-fire incident isn't called treason Rex, it's called procedure.
If they lost then Krell would of had them all accused of treason and executed.
If Krell had simply remained silent, then obviously no thanks would have been given to all the participants in the rebellion, and most likely Rex would have been executed for treason, and everyone who participated would have received very serious punishments.
Im just gonna say this now but
What would happen if Krell was still alive and was in the Jedi Temple during Order 66?
How many clones will he kill?
Will he go on a clone killing frenzy?
Will he win against anakin?
....He dies? The entirety (or nearly the entirety, anyhow) of the 501st Legion, one of if not THE most elite units in the entire galaxy, meaning thousands of clones, were present at the Temple. Krell took on, at most, a few dozen clones here. His biology gives him some unique advantages, but he dies to clones ganking him, and if that fails, then Vader casually steamrolls him. He may kill a few dozen or whatever, but they can afford to just drown him in bodies if they want.
jesse and fives must be so happy RN
Anyone else notice that when Krell talks, there's lightning in the background? At the tower.
I always wonder how Krell would have done if he was still a Jedi and had survived for Order 66. Like if he can take on the 501st and 212th on his own, how would he have faired against the entire army or the Republic?