If Marvel Unlimited cut their price in half, they would triple their readership. If they included it with Disney+, more people would become comics fans.
6:30 That's funny because the same can be said about the One Piece fanbase, and that's what you get when you have a fanbase that likes your work, and I like that.
Shonen jump is only like 3 usd so yeah for marvel to be 10 is a joke 😂 not trying to sound rude I think it’s just ridiculously expensive when you consider how much shonen jump is offering for a lower price
Charging over $5 for a reading servaice is insane the content aside ita just greedy and sad how you can pay $3 for a simmiler servaice without it being predatory great video
Comics are just an empty space to be filled with no rules and no end. Only one thing can save everything - ending everything and creating new comic stories.
@@tobikzlobivy3379 Eww so disgusting imagine taking pride in your bias you're just proving people like you will always ignore actual reasons and go blah3 what I like is better, because of people like you comic book industry is suffering nowadays.
I would like DC and Marvel to create the real chronology of their characters, so that there's a real story Frank miller already did the beginning and end of batman for example, it will be easier to start read I think
Don't forget there's also some The Characters have Similarities as well Different Traits like Superman & Goku,Batman & Ciel,Wonder Woman & Erza or Blue Beetle & Natsu or Spider-Man & Simon,Star-Lord & Shiki,Captain America & Asta or Daredevil & Tanjiro!
@@WalkingTheShelf no. They release on sundays. Wednesday releases are leaks from shops that sell the magazine early. And its not wednesday anymore its friday. Thats why there's a big crackdown on manga piracy going on. Correction: official jump chapters in japan release on mondays. English officials release the day before on sunday. Still releasing at the same time, just timezone difference
I hate comics,Hate superheros. But MY GOAT is batman "Dylan,why batman?" Glad you asked NPC 1 He had no power's, his backstory is of pain hardship of having inherited a fortune 500 comp at 10yrs old. But he fought thru dark past into becoming the tow cities protector....huymm sounds bit like one manga MC....I CAN'T really say though😉 I am musician I can any instrument. Masteted guitar and drums bass. Family had no musician, so I was "special" case of naturally talented. before music . But u can't snap,draw,or sing........THOSE ARE ALL WHAT I WANT TO BE... so now, I find manga and I fell In Love..B&W gives it a sense of I see how they draw,the style, the SFX.
Not to sound like a shill, but the marvel unlimited is if they put their newest issues on the app as they release comic shop will probably stop selling marvel comics in their shop
@@revolutionarydragon1123 I’ve seen that argument but that’s not why people pick up singles. More so than anything, comics are a collectors hobby. It’s why comics are more niche. A large portion of collectors don’t even read what they pick up. The intent is only to resell.
@WalkingTheShelf sure but collectors can't hold up comic industry on their own without ppl like me who actually read comics week to week, but if they go full digital, why would shops buy any new comics that would put them out of business
Crazy how everyone was glazing anime and manga but now everyone is complaining it fell off. At least comics and cartoons are still strong. Infinity train and bojack horseman goats of animation
@@tomassmith1519 right now. All I hear is anime fans complaining about the terrible endings and how much less quality new gen anime is while comic/cartoon fans are celebrating amazing releases like wings of fire book 7 and invincible season 2 and across the spiderverse. Also ninjago dragons rising with its gorgeous animation that is better than most anime (it’s 3d tho)
@@Jery-ej3iz Eh, I think it's mostly just about bad endings in some shows (and also about all the isekais that come out all being the fking same). However, in terms of cash, even those bad ones bring in more money every year. If the US comic industry is really getting better like you say, I would be happy about it, but I kind of worry it won't last (also, let's distinguish between cartoons and comics). A lot of the. could hitt off again massively if they stop identity politics
@@tomassmith1519 a lot of comics are very successful. The suffering games and wings of fire are popular for a reason. Also the bad animation work standard in anime industry is a major reason anime seems to be doing really good when it comes to making money. The west isn’t amazing by any standards but at least animators aren’t working themselves to death
Comics are way better to me and my comicbook collection is far more extensive than manga. Reasons?: 1. Coloring. Manga being in black and white feels cheap and it is cheap. 2. Story. Comics tend to have way more inspiring or thought provoking stories. Manga is too drawn out and the stories are just silly (I’ve never re-evaluated life based on a manga I read. Read Superman though or many JL stories and you’ll see what I mean). 3. Characters. People complain all the time about comic book characters dying and reviving, but Manga characters NEVER die. Even when they do die they come back through some BS way. Naruto should have died so many times! He’s an idiot and his whole body was destroyed when he turned into the 9 tailed fox. Somehow he pulled a Hulk and just healed himself? 4. Legacy. Superman having been around since 1939 and influencing people and culture is huge. I can tell people that “I feel like Superman” or “I feel like Iron Man” and they get it. If I tell someone “I feel like Naruto.” They have no idea what I am talking about. Manga just feels more playful. Comics feel serious with more weighted outcomes.
@@sokool657 I’ll reply to each of your points 1. Manga is B&W is more so for the sake of time. Most manga are weekly and they often barely make deadlines as it is. Comics are almost entirely monthly, with a similar page count, if not even less. 2. This is entirely subjective but saying manga are drawn out and comics aren’t is pretty funny. Comics have the most drawn out narratives of any medium. 3. This is just a silly argument to me. Comic book deaths have been contrived since Superman died to Doomsday. It’s accepted now because of how often it is but there are absolutely no stakes in comics anymore. You also mentioned Naruto when obviously having no idea what you’re talking about. His healing ability with 9 tails chakra is well established and explained in the series many times. 4. I could see your point if your argument was better. The main mark against your argument is the implication that manga doesn’t have this same effect. The Legacy of Jojo’s, One Piece, Dragonball, and Naruto surpass the influence of the vast majority of comic book characters, rivaling the likes of Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man. The main issue with your arguments is that you spend too much time trying to dismiss the entire medium of manga despite being largely ignorant towards it.
@@WalkingTheShelf Your points are entirely subjective but I’ll reply anyway. 1. This isn’t really an excuse. Again, because it’s black and white and the plots are less refined they can afford to be weekly. The magnitude of work isn’t even in the same ballpark as a comic when you look at coloring, lettering, penciling, etc. Manga are made to be cheap to allow stories to be pumped out weekly and as such every manga plot is basically the same. (Kid gets abilities, powers up, takes on bad guy). 2. I would like an example since every comic has a definitive end to each arc. Most arcs are 6 issues long and are mostly independent of one another. 3. You missed my point here. In comics, characters are revived all the time but in manga they often don’t even die in the first place. I compare Naruto to the Hulk because despite both of their bodies being abnormally changed when moving to a new form they manage to live. It’s the same level of ridiculousness, but Manga takes it to another level. Ichigo never dies, only his powers are removed. Luffy never dies. Gon and Killua never die. Goku dies but can literally come back from the afterlife at the whims of the kais, dragonballs, and Beerus’s desire. There are very few manga where death actually means anything and is significant. Superman died and returned but his death inspired the creation of new heroes, altered the entire DC universe, and had several implications in future stories (Blackest Night and more). I won’t break down the impacts of every death in comics but it’s better than watching Midoriya get wrecked for the 15th time and somehow finding a new deus ex as to how he is healed and can keep fighting. 4. It’s cute that you think Jojo’s rivals Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man (LoL) but you’re flat out wrong. Step into any department store (not specialist stores in the mall like Hot Topic or BoxedLunch which cater to anime) and you’re bound to see Batman or Spider-Man related merch. Not likely to see anything anime related. The argument isn’t even flawed. Every great grandmama in the world knows who Superman, Batman, Spiderman, and Wonder Woman are. There’s literal data that supports this. Manga, despite having better sales because of the younger generation’s interest, is way less known. I read manga and watch anime (been doing so for years); I’m not ignorant at all towards it. American comics are, for the most part, way more mature, have more impactful stories, a more respected legacy, and are way more work to create than manga (look at the number of workers on any comic). But I get it, you’d rather dismiss a valid argument as irrelevant because you prefer reading about underage girls in fiction yelling “onii-chan” while getting molested with tentacles. To each their own.
The whole idea of "manga vs. comics" is stupid. They're the same thing - sequential art - just from different countries. The idea of pitting them against each other is childish and stupid.
@@WalkingTheShelf I'm not interested in a reply. I'm just pointing out that this notion that Japanese and Western comics are different is stupid. Their fundamental layout is the same.
@@tivednagol9127 the idea that they’re somehow the same is just blatantly wrong. Not only do I pretty much prove your comment wrong in the video you commented under, but logically, two completely different cultures are going to produce different products. You might not like people addressing the differences but they are there, and the manga industry is a competitor to the western comic industry in the United States (which is a significant talking point in the video).
@@WalkingTheShelf don't put words in my mouth. I never said anything about people addressing the differences. I just don't believe in calling them by different words because they're the same.
“I’m just pointing out that this notion that Japanese and western comics are different is stupid” - you. I didn’t straw-man. Either you forgot what you said, or you didn’t phrase what you actually meant correctly. Your perspective does blatantly ignore the nuance and history of both western comics and manga. They are different and there’s a reason people generally refer to them as “manga” and “western comics” it’s because it’s an easy way to acknowledge the differences despite them both being comics. Ultimately this stuff doesn’t matter though. I just disagreed with your comment, if you don’t want to continue talking about it, that’s fine. I just want to make sure none of my comments come off as personal attacks because it’s not that serious by any means.
If Marvel Unlimited cut their price in half, they would triple their readership.
If they included it with Disney+, more people would become comics fans.
Easily my biggest issue. I really only read JJK on the Shonen jump app, but the subscription is only 2.99 so I don’t mind.
6:30 That's funny because the same can be said about the One Piece fanbase, and that's what you get when you have a fanbase that likes your work, and I like that.
Shonen jump is only like 3 usd so yeah for marvel to be 10 is a joke 😂 not trying to sound rude I think it’s just ridiculously expensive when you consider how much shonen jump is offering for a lower price
Charging over $5 for a reading servaice is insane the content aside ita just greedy and sad how you can pay $3 for a simmiler servaice without it being predatory great video
Comics are just an empty space to be filled with no rules and no end. Only one thing can save everything - ending everything and creating new comic stories.
Well mangas are also empty spaces. But i like comics more.
@@tobikzlobivy3379 lol can't actually fight back against the truth typical comic fan
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I am typical comics fan and I am not going to hide it. 🇨🇿
@@tobikzlobivy3379 Eww so disgusting imagine taking pride in your bias you're just proving people like you will always ignore actual reasons and go blah3 what I like is better, because of people like you comic book industry is suffering nowadays.
Is this a criticism or just a statement?
I would like DC and Marvel to create the real chronology of their characters, so that there's a real story
Frank miller already did the beginning and end of batman for example, it will be easier to start read I think
hey what's the website you used to measure you manga and comics reads at the beginning?
Look up ComicGeeks, it should pop up with just that. It has a bunch of other stats it can keep track of too
is it League of Comic Geeks?@@WalkingTheShelf
Don't forget there's also some The Characters have Similarities as well Different Traits like Superman & Goku,Batman & Ciel,Wonder Woman & Erza or Blue Beetle & Natsu or Spider-Man & Simon,Star-Lord & Shiki,Captain America & Asta or Daredevil & Tanjiro!
@@erniegonzalez2322 a lot of these a stretches imo. I don’t see Asta being even similar to Cap. Nor do I see Daredevil and Tanjiro as being similae
@@WalkingTheShelf I can actually think a few similarities. Care to hear?
@9:52 its not a couple days wait. We get manga chapters the SAME DAY they're officialy released.
Officially released in English. I’m pretty sure SJ chapter release on Wednesday is JP
@@WalkingTheShelf no. They release on sundays. Wednesday releases are leaks from shops that sell the magazine early. And its not wednesday anymore its friday. Thats why there's a big crackdown on manga piracy going on. Correction: official jump chapters in japan release on mondays. English officials release the day before on sunday. Still releasing at the same time, just timezone difference
@@diandre2530 thanks for the correction. I thought the only shonen’s that released on Sundays was the shonen Sunday magazine
I hate comics,Hate superheros. But MY GOAT is batman
"Dylan,why batman?"
Glad you asked NPC 1
He had no power's, his backstory is of pain hardship of having inherited a fortune 500 comp at 10yrs old. But he fought thru dark past into becoming the tow cities protector....huymm sounds bit like one manga MC....I CAN'T really say though😉
I am musician I can any instrument. Masteted guitar and drums bass. Family had no musician, so I was "special" case of naturally talented. before music . But u can't snap,draw,or sing........THOSE ARE ALL WHAT I WANT TO BE... so now, I find manga and I fell In Love..B&W gives it a sense of I see how they draw,the style, the SFX.
It’s funny you say Batman because he’s probably my least favorite major superhero 😂
You would like dare devil and moon knight
Good video 😁👍👍👍
Thanks 😁
I defend Marvel and DC a lot but you cant defend that digital wait time. Sheeesh a week could be understandable but 30-90 days HELL NO
On one hand, I understand that it’s made that way to sell single issues. On the other, that basically derails any hype for ongoing series.
0:48 I think we saw the same thing. I just commented on his vid and said "manga are comics from japan.
Not to sound like a shill, but the marvel unlimited is if they put their newest issues on the app as they release comic shop will probably stop selling marvel comics in their shop
@@revolutionarydragon1123 I’ve seen that argument but that’s not why people pick up singles. More so than anything, comics are a collectors hobby. It’s why comics are more niche. A large portion of collectors don’t even read what they pick up. The intent is only to resell.
@WalkingTheShelf sure but collectors can't hold up comic industry on their own without ppl like me who actually read comics week to week, but if they go full digital, why would shops buy any new comics that would put them out of business
Comics just want to overprice a disposable medium, the paper quality is a scam
manga vs comis but showing animated vs anime 😂
Isn't anime animated?
Only removing the woke shit, comics would solve 90% of their selling problems
Crazy how everyone was glazing anime and manga but now everyone is complaining it fell off. At least comics and cartoons are still strong. Infinity train and bojack horseman goats of animation
@@Jery-ej3iz when did they fell off exactly?
@@tomassmith1519 right now. All I hear is anime fans complaining about the terrible endings and how much less quality new gen anime is while comic/cartoon fans are celebrating amazing releases
like wings of fire book 7 and invincible season 2 and across the spiderverse. Also ninjago dragons rising with its gorgeous animation that is better than most anime (it’s 3d tho)
@@Jery-ej3iz Eh, I think it's mostly just about bad endings in some shows (and also about all the isekais that come out all being the fking same). However, in terms of cash, even those bad ones bring in more money every year. If the US comic industry is really getting better like you say, I would be happy about it, but I kind of worry it won't last (also, let's distinguish between cartoons and comics). A lot of the. could hitt off again massively if they stop identity politics
@@tomassmith1519 a lot of comics are very successful. The suffering games and wings of fire are popular for a reason. Also the bad animation work standard in anime industry is a major reason anime seems to be doing really good when it comes to making money. The west isn’t amazing by any standards but at least animators aren’t working themselves to death
Yes🎉🎉🎉😮
Comics are way better to me and my comicbook collection is far more extensive than manga. Reasons?:
1. Coloring. Manga being in black and white feels cheap and it is cheap.
2. Story. Comics tend to have way more inspiring or thought provoking stories. Manga is too drawn out and the stories are just silly (I’ve never re-evaluated life based on a manga I read. Read Superman though or many JL stories and you’ll see what I mean).
3. Characters. People complain all the time about comic book characters dying and reviving, but Manga characters NEVER die. Even when they do die they come back through some BS way. Naruto should have died so many times! He’s an idiot and his whole body was destroyed when he turned into the 9 tailed fox. Somehow he pulled a Hulk and just healed himself?
4. Legacy. Superman having been around since 1939 and influencing people and culture is huge. I can tell people that “I feel like Superman” or “I feel like Iron Man” and they get it. If I tell someone “I feel like Naruto.” They have no idea what I am talking about.
Manga just feels more playful. Comics feel serious with more weighted outcomes.
@@sokool657 I’ll reply to each of your points
1. Manga is B&W is more so for the sake of time. Most manga are weekly and they often barely make deadlines as it is. Comics are almost entirely monthly, with a similar page count, if not even less.
2. This is entirely subjective but saying manga are drawn out and comics aren’t is pretty funny. Comics have the most drawn out narratives of any medium.
3. This is just a silly argument to me. Comic book deaths have been contrived since Superman died to Doomsday. It’s accepted now because of how often it is but there are absolutely no stakes in comics anymore. You also mentioned Naruto when obviously having no idea what you’re talking about. His healing ability with 9 tails chakra is well established and explained in the series many times.
4. I could see your point if your argument was better. The main mark against your argument is the implication that manga doesn’t have this same effect. The Legacy of Jojo’s, One Piece, Dragonball, and Naruto surpass the influence of the vast majority of comic book characters, rivaling the likes of Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man.
The main issue with your arguments is that you spend too much time trying to dismiss the entire medium of manga despite being largely ignorant towards it.
@@WalkingTheShelf
Your points are entirely subjective but I’ll reply anyway.
1. This isn’t really an excuse. Again, because it’s black and white and the plots are less refined they can afford to be weekly. The magnitude of work isn’t even in the same ballpark as a comic when you look at coloring, lettering, penciling, etc. Manga are made to be cheap to allow stories to be pumped out weekly and as such every manga plot is basically the same. (Kid gets abilities, powers up, takes on bad guy).
2. I would like an example since every comic has a definitive end to each arc. Most arcs are 6 issues long and are mostly independent of one another.
3. You missed my point here. In comics, characters are revived all the time but in manga they often don’t even die in the first place. I compare Naruto to the Hulk because despite both of their bodies being abnormally changed when moving to a new form they manage to live. It’s the same level of ridiculousness, but Manga takes it to another level. Ichigo never dies, only his powers are removed. Luffy never dies. Gon and Killua never die. Goku dies but can literally come back from the afterlife at the whims of the kais, dragonballs, and Beerus’s desire. There are very few manga where death actually means anything and is significant. Superman died and returned but his death inspired the creation of new heroes, altered the entire DC universe, and had several implications in future stories (Blackest Night and more). I won’t break down the impacts of every death in comics but it’s better than watching Midoriya get wrecked for the 15th time and somehow finding a new deus ex as to how he is healed and can keep fighting.
4. It’s cute that you think Jojo’s rivals Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man (LoL) but you’re flat out wrong. Step into any department store (not specialist stores in the mall like Hot Topic or BoxedLunch which cater to anime) and you’re bound to see Batman or Spider-Man related merch. Not likely to see anything anime related. The argument isn’t even flawed. Every great grandmama in the world knows who Superman, Batman, Spiderman, and Wonder Woman are. There’s literal data that supports this. Manga, despite having better sales because of the younger generation’s interest, is way less known.
I read manga and watch anime (been doing so for years); I’m not ignorant at all towards it.
American comics are, for the most part, way more mature, have more impactful stories, a more respected legacy, and are way more work to create than manga (look at the number of workers on any comic). But I get it, you’d rather dismiss a valid argument as irrelevant because you prefer reading about underage girls in fiction yelling “onii-chan” while getting molested with tentacles. To each their own.
1. Subjective
2 & 3. Subjective and ignorant
4. Irrelevant to the quality of the story
Really? Manga character never died? Please Neji comeback to Boruto 😂😂😂😂😂. This is beyond ignorant
@@TienNguyen-ky4dx Neji the side character. His death was soooo impactful.
The whole idea of "manga vs. comics" is stupid. They're the same thing - sequential art - just from different countries. The idea of pitting them against each other is childish and stupid.
You 100% saw the title and then commented. Watch the video and respond to at least one of my points if you want a genuine response.
@@WalkingTheShelf I'm not interested in a reply. I'm just pointing out that this notion that Japanese and Western comics are different is stupid. Their fundamental layout is the same.
@@tivednagol9127 the idea that they’re somehow the same is just blatantly wrong. Not only do I pretty much prove your comment wrong in the video you commented under, but logically, two completely different cultures are going to produce different products.
You might not like people addressing the differences but they are there, and the manga industry is a competitor to the western comic industry in the United States (which is a significant talking point in the video).
@@WalkingTheShelf don't put words in my mouth. I never said anything about people addressing the differences. I just don't believe in calling them by different words because they're the same.
“I’m just pointing out that this notion that Japanese and western comics are different is stupid” - you. I didn’t straw-man. Either you forgot what you said, or you didn’t phrase what you actually meant correctly.
Your perspective does blatantly ignore the nuance and history of both western comics and manga. They are different and there’s a reason people generally refer to them as “manga” and “western comics” it’s because it’s an easy way to acknowledge the differences despite them both being comics.
Ultimately this stuff doesn’t matter though. I just disagreed with your comment, if you don’t want to continue talking about it, that’s fine. I just want to make sure none of my comments come off as personal attacks because it’s not that serious by any means.