you talk about Russians here , j think really that Frenchs prefer to more the style stylus than demonstrative dancers ( j talk here as lover-ballet not as the millions RUclipsrs)
this appears to be Clustine's SUITE DE DANSE, as follows: "Suite de danses: Chor: Ivan Clustine; mus: Frédéric Chopin, orch. by André Messager & Paul Vidal; cos: Pinchon. First perf: Paris, Opera, June 23, 1913; Paris Opera Ballet.//Revival: Paris, Opera, Feb 20, 1922; Paris Opera Ballet" and probably re-worked for film. it's typical for Peretti to opt for pointe-shoes as his footwear as seen here.
hi Gerald A little while back, I uploaded on my channel what I thought (and hoped) was footage of Ballets Russes legend, Olga Spessivtzeva as ‘Serge Lifar and (perhaps) Olga Spessivtzeva - Filmed with the Ballet of the Paris Opera (1931)’. There seemed to be some reasons to support these hopes, which I included in the notes for the video. One reason was the title given at the beginning of the footage, which identified Lifar. Sadly and happily, I found these dancers not to be Serge Lifar and Olga Spessivtzeva, but Serge Peretti and Suzanne Lorcia in Ivan Clustine's 'Suite de danses', which was presented at the Opéra de Paris in 1936. And quite by chance a few days later I found a much clearer example of this same footage in the French documentary ‘Serge Peretti - Le Dernier Italien’. I've re-posted this clear version on my channel. Cheers from Sydney!
Well, Lorcia DOES look like Spessivtseva-- VERY lovely, exquisite footwork, feathery entrechat sixes, light, and with the look of lightness. Peretti doesn't pull his lines like modern dancers do, but he's clearly centered, his dancing looks like dancing more than some modern men do. The choreography isn't "interesting," difficult intellectually-- it is NOT modern-- but it is limpidly danceable and charming. SO glad to have seen this. Thank you for posting, and for all the annotations and proper crediting.
I am puzzled, they look like most likely they are dancing Chopiniana but the music is not Chopin, the corps looks like Sylphides and male dancer is in a typical Chopiniana Poet costume. Can you clear this up? Was music substituted because it was not available? Or is it a different ballet depicting Chopiniana?
@@athens31415 They are not rare at all... there are so many classical ballets to watch, many reconstructed and there are many choreographed in recent times that are great, just look for Roland Petit, John Neumeier, Uwe Scholz among others. You just have to know how to find them . There are those stupid modern ones of course but they are not majority. Find for example Illusions Like Swan Lake of Neumeier, incredible ballet about Bavarian King Ludvig II
What is the first piece of music that shows the actual ballet dancing? Is it Rachmaninov?? I’ve been trying to remember what piece that is for months now!!!
The difference in the level of technique I already expected but the fact they're all wearing modern hairstyles seems odd, even in 30s and 40s I thought a bun or similar was standard practice, maybe I just haven't done enough research haha
They didnt have pointe shoes back then so yeah I mean their pointed didnt have the strong support the nowdays pointes have. And they couldnt stand on their points long
Its 1936. And they're good technicaly for the time. These dancers learned ballet at the beginning of 20th century. In 1910, the last female travesty danced on paris opera stage, so serge peretti (the male principal) comes from a generation that has revived male dance (there were only few good male dancers at paris opera from 1880 to 1900). In that time paris opera was still practicing ballet in a vert academic way. They would never speak about "lines purity". The knee had to be flexible during the execution of petite batterie for example. Port de bras and epaulement are beautiful.
Weird? Whats weird about them? That they don't make the woman's feet the same size as the males? With a massive paddle box like modern pointes? That's what i consider weird!! I would much rather see this style of pointe shoes again
@@timothyk9086 its incredibly difficult to stand on those or to basically do piruottes or other stuff. Thid shoes didnt have support but the ballerinas had incredibly strong ankles but still you cant use them anymore cuz its difficult to dance with those. Especially if u have to dance for 1 or more hours
@@timothyk9086 Modern pointe shoes offer dancers much more support than the shoes of the past. They are better suited for advanced moves on pointe unlike the shoes used in this video. Also, women can have the same foot size as men, with or without pointe shoes.
Everyone's talking about technique and how this is "weak" but I'm here a casual bypasser going "ooh so lovely". 🥰 Love this!
Как же это прекрасно, а ведь было это почти 100 летназад... Спасибо за возможность посмотреть и восхититься!!! ❤
Back when people were really romantic and less demanding athletic qualifications!
you talk about Russians here , j think really that Frenchs prefer to more the style stylus than demonstrative dancers ( j talk here as lover-ballet not as the millions RUclipsrs)
bro people still are romantic and people then also had athletic qualifications as well 💀💀
(Take this with a grain of salt) My Russian teacher once said “this is not gymnastics, this is Ballet, if you want to see tricks go to the circus”
yep wow technique. The music was lovely. The dancers danced beautifully. Rare video 💕
The beginning is so beautiful!!
just think, the kids in this ballet might still be alive today!
...probably not, majority are prob dead. If you think abt it, most of the girls here are probablt 20 ish. That would mean theyre around 90 today
It's beautiful.
By the styles of the women's hair and clothing, I would say this is closer to 1930 than 1940.
Very beautiful
Super Cool ! ! . . . So Atmospheric !
this appears to be Clustine's SUITE DE DANSE, as follows: "Suite de danses: Chor: Ivan Clustine; mus: Frédéric Chopin, orch. by André Messager & Paul Vidal; cos: Pinchon. First perf: Paris, Opera, June 23, 1913; Paris Opera Ballet.//Revival: Paris, Opera, Feb 20, 1922; Paris Opera Ballet" and probably re-worked for film. it's typical for Peretti to opt for pointe-shoes as his footwear as seen here.
hi Gerald
A little while back, I uploaded on my channel what I thought (and hoped) was footage of Ballets Russes legend, Olga Spessivtzeva as ‘Serge Lifar and (perhaps) Olga Spessivtzeva - Filmed with the Ballet of the Paris Opera (1931)’. There seemed to be some reasons to support these hopes, which I included in the notes for the video. One reason was the title given at the beginning of the footage, which identified Lifar.
Sadly and happily, I found these dancers not to be Serge Lifar and Olga Spessivtzeva, but Serge Peretti and Suzanne Lorcia in Ivan Clustine's 'Suite de danses', which was presented at the Opéra de Paris in 1936. And quite by chance a few days later I found a much clearer example of this same footage in the French documentary ‘Serge Peretti - Le Dernier Italien’.
I've re-posted this clear version on my channel.
Cheers from Sydney!
Thanks for identifying the film John, it has been noted above.
Gerald Santana
Excellent to see footage of Peretti, who was also, in 1922 for a couple of weeks only, a Diaghilev dancer.
yes, i know - he was born in Kyiv :)
Well, Lorcia DOES look like Spessivtseva-- VERY lovely, exquisite footwork, feathery entrechat sixes, light, and with the look of lightness. Peretti doesn't pull his lines like modern dancers do, but he's clearly centered, his dancing looks like dancing more than some modern men do. The choreography isn't "interesting," difficult intellectually-- it is NOT modern-- but it is limpidly danceable and charming. SO glad to have seen this. Thank you for posting, and for all the annotations and proper crediting.
@@1psoas9 it does look like Spessivtseva - i think people want there to be more film of her and accepted it as such.
!!!!!!!!!!+++ Большое спасибо за видео !!!
It is very clear from the fashions and hair styles that this video must date from the early 1930s, not ca. 1940.
I was thinking the fashions didn't fit the 40's style.
30s or 40s it was great.
Yeah i noticed by the hairstyle. Very short and curled up
It was 1936
how did things progress so quickly?!
благодарю за видио о Лифаре
Балет тяжёлое искусство. Выносливость, сила.
I think it's perfect!
this looks older than 1940! the eyebrows of the girls are far too thin for it to be in the 40s?
1936
she got the balanchine-style claws lmao
Ballet is a timeless worldwide language.
Isso é lindo de se ver
amazing
That was the shortest ballet I've ever seen!
I am puzzled, they look like most likely they are dancing Chopiniana but the music is not Chopin, the corps looks like Sylphides and male dancer is in a typical Chopiniana Poet costume. Can you clear this up? Was music substituted because it was not available? Or is it a different ballet depicting Chopiniana?
1:50, what is the name of that music and whose composer is it?
Pointe shoes back then, your feet are R.I.P (left alone balancing on them)
Nice.
Why does this part at 3:23 seem so intimate 🥲❤️❤️
HE IS SERGE PERETTI FROM LE DERNIER ITALIEN
I see this, and while I enjoy it, I’m wondering if the Fall of France had already happened (June 1940).
This has more feeling than nowadays. The modern ballet sucks.
Then you haven't watched good ballets...
@@BytomGirl Probably because the "good" ballets are too rare and hard to find these days -- proving OPs point that modern ballet sucks.
@@athens31415 They are not rare at all... there are so many classical ballets to watch, many reconstructed and there are many choreographed in recent times that are great, just look for Roland Petit, John Neumeier, Uwe Scholz among others. You just have to know how to find them . There are those stupid modern ones of course but they are not majority. Find for example Illusions Like Swan Lake of Neumeier, incredible ballet about Bavarian King Ludvig II
What is the first piece of music that shows the actual ballet dancing? Is it Rachmaninov?? I’ve been trying to remember what piece that is for months now!!!
Ce n est Pas Serge Lifar Mais Serge Peretti Et Suzanne Lorcia. !!
Oui, c'est Serge Peretti Et Suzanne Lorcia, les crédits sont faux.
Oui bravo
The difference in the level of technique I already expected but the fact they're all wearing modern hairstyles seems odd, even in 30s and 40s I thought a bun or similar was standard practice, maybe I just haven't done enough research haha
The shoes looks very thin
Serge Lifar 💙💛
These dancers look so technically weak, it must be much earlier than 1940
They didnt have pointe shoes back then so yeah
I mean their pointed didnt have the strong support the nowdays pointes have. And they couldnt stand on their points long
Judging ny hairstyle is aroun 1920-1930
Its 1936. And they're good technicaly for the time. These dancers learned ballet at the beginning of 20th century. In 1910, the last female travesty danced on paris opera stage, so serge peretti (the male principal) comes from a generation that has revived male dance (there were only few good male dancers at paris opera from 1880 to 1900).
In that time paris opera was still practicing ballet in a vert academic way. They would never speak about "lines purity". The knee had to be flexible during the execution of petite batterie for example. Port de bras and epaulement are beautiful.
have a look at chabukiani's videos on yt he in 30's had already strong technique as many other russians like sergeyev yermolaev messerer etc etc
what's with the weird pointes?
Weird? Whats weird about them? That they don't make the woman's feet the same size as the males? With a massive paddle box like modern pointes? That's what i consider weird!! I would much rather see this style of pointe shoes again
Well their pointes back then didnt have the kind of support at the toes like todays pointes have.
@@timothyk9086 its incredibly difficult to stand on those or to basically do piruottes or other stuff. Thid shoes didnt have support but the ballerinas had incredibly strong ankles but still you cant use them anymore cuz its difficult to dance with those. Especially if u have to dance for 1 or more hours
@@timothyk9086 Modern pointe shoes offer dancers much more support than the shoes of the past. They are better suited for advanced moves on pointe unlike the shoes used in this video. Also, women can have the same foot size as men, with or without pointe shoes.
What ballet is this???
Chopiniana, wrong music was added, was supposed to be 7th waltz of Chopin
1931*
He was a grate ukrainian
Bb
According tyo our modern standards and taste, this looks like an amateur adult group.
Dancers were heavier in those days.
Russians are the most beautiful human beings on earth.
Many of them are wonderful...such as Maya Plisetskya, Ulyana Lopatkina and Svetlana Zakarova, for starters.
Mostly turned in...now I'm confused if that's classical or contemporary 🤣
So bad in every way it's funny. Can't even move in time. The male dancer LOL!
Что это за балет ? Музыка очень понравилась . Чья это музыка ?
is serge peretti not lifar
What ballet is this?