REPRESENT YOURSELF AGAINST A NARCISSIST ONE MOM'S BATTLE WITH TINA SWITHIN AND DR RAMANI PART 2
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2020
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REPRESENT YOURSELF IN DIVORCE AND WIN//Do you want to know how to represent yourself in divorce court or in a custody case/battle and actually win? Tina Swithin, who founded One Mom’s Battle, did just that. Dr. Ramani, the foremost expert psychologist in narcissism also offers her wisdom in expertise on the mind of a narcissist during these court cases, sharing what causes narcissism and what makes narcissists tick. Tina’s blog caught the attention of Christie Brinkley when the press attention shed light on her well-known custody battle with a narcissist. This is Part 1 of a 2 part episode. This is truly an inspirational David slew Goliath story. If you are dealing with a narcissist in court and don’t have the money to hire a lawyer, find out the exact steps Tina took when she decided to go pro se (also called pro per) in her case.
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Who can I contact and would help me ASAP to dismissed a 5yo DV restraining order against me- ?
Father has custudy but children have lived with me 24/7. And there is over 20 cps reports of child abuse from dad to children.
My 10 yo daughter is suicidal and the system in my county is not helping at all .
Judging me as a crazy woman for reporting abuse to many times. Video of physical abuse from father in front of sheriff exchange station.
ER reports.
Since 2/5/21 and 2/7/21
And they’re taking their seeet time
My kids are being abuse
I am disabled and can’t afford an attorney
Help please
I don’t see a link to Tina’s Facebook support page. I’ll search for it, but I figured I’d let ya know since you mentioned doing it. Ya are a busy lady and I appreciate all the help you give others and figure you can use some in return as well :)
@@karawillis4767 www.onemomsbattle.com/
Rebecca, my husband is in another state in jail now. How can I navigate this? Any ideas?
I am currently going through a divorce from a covert narcissist and I am stuck in the same home with him and our three kids. Everyone is concerned about my mental and emotional well being. I am meditating, exercising, eating well, reading and preparing for what is ahead. I am happier than I have been in a long time, certainly happier and freer than I have been in my 24 years of marriage. I have plans to start a support group in my area for people who are abused by narcissists, go to school to take classes so I can counsel people going through divorce from a narcissist. You ladies are amazing and thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience and helping out and raising the awareness.
I feel for you and resonate with your feeling better after so many years. Sending good thoughts for a safe and effective plan to get yourself and your children to where you want to be.
Wow, for me it is 21. Finally got him into the small apartment and changed the locks on the main house. Stuck on property surrounded by my ex girlfriend's and neighbors who believe he is my victim Hard for me to even take my dog for a wa lk.Best wishes
That's awesome I'm actually proud of your accomplishments 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Watch Trey Jones You can start with The Theory of everything.
What state are you in? If in eastern Washington, I’d love to meet you.
I have been dealing with a narcissist for 14 years. This I can definitely say has been the hardest 14 years of my life. Even though I got away from him I'm truly not away from him. I have severe insomnia because I stay wake at night wondering what he's going to do next. My health is deteriorating. I pray everyday. It's hard when nobody believes you.
You must strategize your escape. I was in a similar marriage and left suddenly desperately and I agreed to accepting very little just to get away. My health is permanently affected and I pray you look up Divorcing a Narcissist information they tell you how to do it. I left at my lowest point in my life, what I learned was I am stronger than I felt and smarter than I thought! Their toxicity is Profound. I left after 25 years, my child was raised and my health was reaching a danger zone. Educate yourself and you can do it. Best wishes to you!
I am in a similar most bizarre situation . My 14 year old minor daughter has been heavily manipulated alongside his enablers ( some members of my own family ). He has groomed my daughter and she has starts in her eyes for her “ Daddy “. It is a dangerous and sickening situation . I , like you have severe insomnia .
I feel like I was divinely led to you three. Thank you SO much!!!
Maybe to Tina and Dr. Ramani. A lawyer playing advocate for the court is a bad actor.
@@carfincap 🤔really?
I think someone on the inside, who has the ability to speak 🗣 to us from that perspective is a great advantage.
Tina learned from from going to court. Some of us, can learn from an insider.
You seem to identify with Tina, yet the person bringing her to you, is the one you seem to throw dirt on. It’s like someone bringing you a steak, and you, keep the wrapper throw away the steak 🤔🙉
@Spirit Calling 👍Agree 💯 Absolutely! The only way I could find out the ‘strange’ things going on I could not understand. My head has been spinning 😵💫
You’re strong. God does not want you in a situation of abuse. God knit you tenderly in your mother’s womb. He will make a way. Be bold. Be you!
Silver lining!
Dealing with these creatures
1 understand the disorder
2 become none emotional in dealing with them
3 understand when you recover you have all the power
Addiction has set patterns of behavior ,when we break our addiction to them grow balls and teach them who is boss of your life
They hate divorce because of the fact that they get a narcissist injury when you divorce them ,loss of control of their victim
My narc every dealing is
1 thank you for leaving me
2 i am the happiest I have ever been
3 i have a beautiful new partner who is loving kind person
4 my business life is flourishing beyond my wildest dreams
All of thìs because you left me THANK YOU
I'm looking forward to this.
Paul Townsend I am happier too even if my ex is talking my parents into moving next door to them and didn’t tel them he has a mistress. Lol. They found out so now he is being taken for a ride as we are on to his sneaky spying on social media and other crap!
So happy for u! You give me hope! God bless you on all your new endeavors!!
PLEASE!!! Dr RAMINI & REBECCA ZUNG: Write a text book for law to get entered into the Federal Law for Family Law!!! You would help so may families with your knowledge being part of the actual Legal System!!!
My ex-wife has to be in a category all by herself, "Supreme Narcissist".
She was repeatly mollested as a child by her father. Got pregnant at 16 from a drug addict boyfriend, dropped out of high school.
I met her during my senior year of college during my last semester studying accounting / finance. We met in a bible study group for singles. We got married when I was 25 and she was 26. She was just a beautiful woman and I thought that she was Christian.
We moved to Alaska after graduation (They offered twice the salary as my home State). After about three months, I told her that, I was sending her home on the next boat and that I would not live with all the stress and turmoil. One week later she told me that she was pregnant and that she would abort my baby if I divorced her. About ten years later I did the math and realized that it was an eleven month pregnancy..... uh huh??
I was a 235 pound, 5 % body fat, college heavy-weight wrestler, C.P.A. with a brillant mind and a very gentle spirit. Not someone that you would think would be totally dominated by a narcissist, However, she held my precious daughter as ransom. I lived on egg sheels for twenty years waiting for her next violent explosion.
I divorced her the month after my daughter graduated high school and headed to college.
Any one can be manipuled by one of these lost souls.
I can’t believe I stumbled upon this. This is literally what I’m about to embark on. I feel like Tina and I are the same person. I also cannot afford an attorney and will be representing myself. We have two kids. My 16 year old has been manipulated so much by his dad that he suffers from anxiety/depression. I have him in therapy. I just pray the court won’t look at his age and let him decide who he wants to live with. We have a scheduling conference in a few weeks and I’m trying to prepare as best I can.
How did it go? I have a situation like this. I hope your son is well. It’s been a year
@@tinamarzullo8868 STILL ongoing. Thankfully for me he’s not listening to or following his attorney’s advice. I’m feeling confident heading into the trial because even with an attorney he’s just doing all the wrong things. My son is well, thanks for asking. I hope all goes well for you!
I love all this! Please continue to have real-life cases from people like Tina. Even those who lost to a narcissism. Women in particular; it must be stressed are much more likely to experience narcissistic abuse. Well done all of you. All amazing women!
Thank you to you three beautiful women.🌼🌿🌸 My God there are so many of us that have gone through this traumatizing experience. Its like veterans who share the bond of war... i feel such a connection of love and compassion for every woman i meet who has survived this experience. Wow. Blessings to you all🌺
So so true! We are stronger 💪🏾 having survived our trauma! Blessings to you as well.
I am so thankful to know that the abuse that I went through is recognized by others as what it is- abuse. To know that I was not crazy, and to know that I am not alone. To everyone in the comments- stay strong and stand in your truth!
I was groomed at 17 by a 32 year old man. 20 years later...Happiness and Peace! Thank you beautifuls. Granted a permanent restraining order. Amen...prayers answered. We are Survivors and Thrivers. You all rock- testimonial, legal advice, and mental health. Passing on these resources to any who want and need as an advocate, teacher, mom and survivor of Narc abuse! Blessings ladies
Thank you so much ladies for this much needed video. I am attempting a property settlement with a covert narcissist who has been dragging it out for the last three years. Thankfully we didn’t have kids together. He has all of our marital assets while I have lived in a caravan on my daughters property for the last three years. We have a beautiful horse property, a successful business and a luxury boat which he has complete control of. He has even remarried and has his new wife living in my house with him. I became unemployed Dec 2019 and can’t claim unemployment benefits due to my interest in the business. He is also currently holding a Mayoral position in our local community, so my name is mud through his smear campaign. We have a directions hearing this Wed, where I am also self representing, so this video has come at the perfect time for me and Tina has encouraged me to stay strong in my resolve to win this battle. Again I’m a huge fan of all of you ladies and thank you for bringing this pandemic to light .
Tina's story gives me hope, I went through a similar experience in court. I also want to break the cycle from my life and own family. Thank you for your advices and this video! 🙌🙏💗
❤️ this is the best collaboration ever! Please keep the videos coming! I commented on part 1 and asked Tina how she kept going... and then I started watching this part 2 and broke down into tears... while semi laughing at myself and thinking... you just had to watch part 2. Thanks for inspiring me and reminding me why I keep going and to never give up. Rebecca you are amazing and I wish there were more attorneys like you who “get” it... thank you all for opening up and sharing your experiences, perspectives and knowledge base for free with those of us who could never otherwise have access to it!!! I feel re-energized and re-inspired to keep going just by watching your chat!
What Tina went through was sheer hell, I congratulate her for winning her case... soo exhausting.
Rebecca, thank you for bringing your expertise and experience to this arena. Too few lawyers have any idea how to handle a narcissist in court and often dismiss the partner's concerns. It means that many ex-partners of narcissists are getting unfair divorce settlements, dragged endlessly through the system and their children are not being adequately protected. You are one of the few lawyers speaking about the nuts and bolts of how to handle a narcissist in a divorce case. Again, thank you for bringing your voice to this arena.
I am going through a custody battle with my children father, who has been tormenting me. I sometimes feel like this will never end. I am glad I am educating myself through these videos and pray that my truth will prevail, and the judges will see this man for who he is. Thank you for sharing!
All three of you ladies have been unbelievably helpful to me on my journey of divorcing a narcissist. I’m still navigating custody battles with my last minor child and watching your videos has been a tremendous help to me. Just wanted to say thank you!
Tina. You are amazing. Your strength is so powerful for those of us going through this!
Tina is a hero, also my hero. It is great to know her through this video. Ultimately, she won, once his parental rights are terminated. Her girls have a great mother!
I lost my child completely and it’s good to hear Tina say things can turn aroubdb
You can! Never give up
You will be in my many prayers.
You all are amazing, I can’t thank you enough, this video felt so comforting and supportive to listen to 💜💝💕
Tina's challenges were so identical to the things that I've been having to endure almost to the T. It's been a decade of headaches and sorrow and feeling like a failure in not being able to protect my children. My children are confused and scared because they no that nobody listened to them and they have to continue to be subjected to these horrible situations. Saying and doing whatever they feel necessary to protect themselves. Their behavior has changed dramatically in order to adapt to their unfortunate circumstances 😔
I had asked Tina how to reach her to ask questions on her channel and as soon as we can financially my daughter will reach out to her. This video is much needed because my daughter will need to represent herself soon. We have spent about $150,000 in 9 months on atty fees and court costs. It is a continual nightmare. Thank you ladies for all of the info each of you put out to the rest of us trying to navigate this nightmare.
@@RebeccaZungEsq Thank you so much!!! Will do!!!
This channel has been a blessing. I’ve been dealing with a female covert narcissist on court the last 10 years. Thank you for shedding light on a topic that has left me paralyzed + almost give up on my daughter. My only fear is my daughter will be influenced by her.
Rebecca, I am hoping you can create an episode on reprogramming kids living in a toxic environment. Many thanks!!
To two of my favorite RUclips stars, the Brilliant Dr. Ramani & Law Goddess, Rebecca Zung - I remain so very grateful to you for what you do & what you share. To Tina (a new to me, brand new hero) - you are mighty. So wowed by what you accomplished to save your girls, yaaaay you! Even if I knew your addresses, I couldn't even afford now, to "buy" you a Thank You card. The financial strangulation is absolutely devastating & does cause a type of PTSD. Prior to my horse accident, and thru 15 years of misdiagnoses, I had always worked hard to pay my own way, inc. buying a house on my own. I enjoyed working hard...for that alone & also for the freedom & independence a good salary provides. Now my neck is so damaged that I can no longer be a reliable/ able to show up to work on any given day. I will most likely have to go pro se against my husband, a Covert, passive-aggressive, slightly malignant Narc. So, THANK YOU - Rebecca, Dr. Ramani & Toni for what you are teaching me. Grateful feels almost inadequate. 💐💞😊
Love this series! Thank you all for this information and I wish I had this when my battle first started and it’s so hopeful to know other victims of narcissistic abuse have somewhere to go for information like this ❤️
The perfect trifecta . Love all three of you ❤️
I was in a sit up fetal position last night crying my heart out to God for how isolated I feel… I’m in a domestic shelter for women and children and I feel so alone .. but I know that there is a purpose to all this… 18 years of marriage 😢
You are Awesome Tina🌺
Patterns & Document !!!
Thank You 🌺
Dr Ramani🌺
& Att. Zung🌺
I am a subscriber of you Both 🌺
He got everything but I have much more in Peace and surrounded by Genuinely Good people. And God
I am soooo thankful to you all! Much love and thanks! My whole family is in this mess along with my attorney! The triangulation is a mess!
mine too,he engage my whole family in it... And it still contineous...will it be ended?
Wow, share the hell out of this. I did the same things with my Ex. Its strategy, strategy and strategy. I spent 2 years learning to understand who I was dealing with and unexplained behaviour patterns. If you are feeling mentally crazy, can't explain the undisputed unhealthy behaviours and dealing with enabling family and friends, stop take a breath and reach out to this group. I too never used the Narc word but made them focus on the dysfunctional behaviour to provide support for why I was doing the things I did not want to do to protect my son. These ladies are spot on, listen, learn and sharpen your own resourcefulness.
Dr Ramani... Like your passion ❤
Tina’s story is the story of many of us out here. I’m so happy she got out. Thank you so much for this video. It gives me hope and confidence that when I face my Narc in court soon, the tools I have gathered from these videos will guide me to be legally and emotionally empowered. I will not allow him or the system to intimidate and manipulate my vulnerability. Thank you, once again. God bless the 3 of you🙏🏼
Never give up. One day at a time. You can't do everything all in one day. Slowly and steadily keep at it and do not be denied.
This is THE BEST video I have seen after watching hundreds of videos on divorcing a narcissist. THANK YOU! I can’t afford a lawyer and Tinas advice is PRICELESS 💕THANK YOU TINA, Rebecca and Dr. Ramani. 💕
You women are amazing! Your information has changed my life for the better in so many ways
As mentioned near the ending of this video..... Please link the other 2 channels, in description. Thanks for what all 3 of you, continue doing here for all of us!!! For far too many, it's the only 'support' or validation we receive. Stay safe & be well.
Fantastic and valuable information. This narcissists issues tend to be so uniform in the way they happen to all of us who are victimized.
Tina, you're amazing. I so needed to hear that. Gratitude to you all.
Thank you all for taking the time to share your experience and expertise with us. This was truly insightful.
This is an excellent collaboration. I am SO impressed with this series and the work these ladies are doing.
Incredible! All three of you together was awesome and truly helpful. Thank you ❤️
I spent almost 20 years with a covert passive-aggressive narcissist. I wasted the best years of my life!
Wonderful content! Thank you. I bought Tina’s book when I was representing myself in court with my ex. It was very helpful. I’ve loved all three of your channels. Thank you! thank you! thank you!
I am so thankful for you all and for this wonderful information. These videos have honestly helped me so much, I wish I would have known sooner. Much Love ❤
This video has LIFE SAVING information!!! Thank You so much!!
Wonderful video! Thank you all.
Definitely eye opening, thank you so much ladies 🎉❤
Mine won pretty much everything we both built Together. I had to walk away from it being manipulated by my own Narcissistic attorney. Wow.
You three women are my heroes. Amazing! Keep up the great work!
The most informative and valuable content on this topic. Thank you all ❤
I wish we had all of you for our case because you really understand what we are dealing with. Your videos are right on
I have learned so much from this video. Thank you so much! There are limited contexts in South Africa for sitting in court, particularly family court, and learning by observing. Tina thank you for sharing your story.
This video is amazing because you have open many eyes out there of people who are going through this horrible situation……thank you ladies.!!! 👍👏🙏
this was excellent. what a force here on all fronts! Tina you are amazing!
You’re all awesome. This is very helpful. Thank you.
Wish I had all of this great advice 2 years ago. You are all Awesome. Keep educating both women and men. This disorder these abusers have is Pure Hell to live in and to live through.
Thank you for making these videos. They are so empowering. So helpful.
Great job lady’s!! Very empowering!! Thank u so much!!
OMG!! When you got to the best interest of the child, man!!! I wish I was on the video with you ladies!! My family just last month got our case finalized by requesting to become conservators for our 2 grandchildren. But months before this we had to separate one of the brothers after 6 months of already having our three grandchildren placed with us by CPS in TX. Our daughter was working her services and because of a new law in Texas on Sept 1, 2021, that stated non-offending parents automatically get the child. we had to separate the 3 boys. Now, my oldest grandson who was about to be taken from us NEVER in 9 years of his life spent time or even spoke with his father. So the judge decided well let's let them meet 1 time in person 3 hrs away and see what happens. This was after weeks of telling the judge he did not like to do videos with his father prior to his visit and telling CPS that he did not want to leave his mother or brothers a number of times. There was so much more that went into this case, but a long story short my daughter is trying to get her son back and has to deal with a narcissist. No, they really don't do what is in the best interest of the child in some cases. Because now he looks horrible when we see him on video, and his brothers are having continued issues. When my daughter's Atty spoke up and said that he did not want to split the 10-year-old, 6-year-old, and 5-year-old up. The judge said well we do it all the time so that's not a factor. Just because you do it does not make it right!
Thank you so much, ladies!! I've been forwarding these videos to my daughter to help her feel stronger to fight.
Our hearing is on Tuesday and this is so so helpful!
this is giving me tears and hope!
Her story was almost identical to mine. He won custody in 2013. He had access to a lot of money and I didn’t. I used a lawyer of all kind of cases. He assured me I would win custody! I told him that my husband manipulate my 2 older kids to tell the judge lies in order to stay with their dad. My youngest was scared of his dad and told the judge he wanted to stay with mommy. My lawyer again assured me I would win custody. We never had the first consultation on what evidence I had that proved he should not have custody and should have supervised visits and supervised phone conversations. I lost custody!!! My life was shattered!!! I had him in court constantly because he didn’t follow the order!!! He never got in any trouble. Until we sat in court under a judge who saw through him. He was warned that if I had to bring him to court again for breaking the custody order he would pay a huge fine and serve jail time and their would be another custody hearing to give me primary custody. My oldest never was under a custody order because he was already aged out. My middle son was so scared that his dad was gonna stop being his dad and move away to find another family that he did whatever dad said. He was 12 and was able to convince the judge that living with his dad was in his best interest. So he was granted custody of both of my minor children!!! My youngest was heartbroken! He was only 7. I had always been his only caregiver because his dad wanted me to abort him. Every other weekend was a happy and sad time. My middle child was so mean and defiant to me and my younger just stuck to me like glue begging me to let him stay with me!! My middle child started high school and stopped visiting and stopped talking to me unless he didn’t like something about what I was doing and he would call and cuss me out!!! He was so mean to me.
In his JR year of high school his girlfriend since his freshman year broke up with him over him constantly watching pornography. He was devastated and started reading his Bible again and praying again and going back to church when he realized how horrible he had treated me since his dad and I broke up. He called one night hysterically crying and apologizing to me begging for my forgiveness!!! I told him I have always forgiven you every time!!! I assured him my love for him was unconditional!!! We started rebuilding our relationship. He is now in his JR year of college and we have a really good relationship!!! My youngest finally got to come back to me when he was 11. It ended up being settled out of court! Now he is 14 and his dad is bullying him so much to move back that my son is just tired of constantly having to hear this every time his dad picks him up. The ride to his dads is a hour and a half and the whole time is telling him why he needs to move back with him.
I understand your pain. So glad you have a good relationship with you children again.
You 3 are incredible! Virtual hugs.🌸🌿🌼
Thank you so much. I have lost and lost and lost. you gave me strength
Thank you! This is such a good video!!
Thank you! 3 amazing women!
Thank you!! My ex narc is disabled with sustained TBI. He is on the sociopathic side. My story is worthy of a book itself. Even as much evil he’s inflicted I’m concerned I’ll always love him.
Oh my gosh, the fatigue and anxiety and depression after all the , disregard, disrespect physical abuse and psychological torture. Legally don't react. Go no contact. Education about abuseand family of origin through women's support groups is crucial. Record and take notes. Act as if anything you say or do is being recorded because, trust me, the abusers and their pawns are intentionally provoking you and setting you up and recording your negative reaction.
Such powerful women! Thank you!
This is so encouraging 🙏🏽🙌🏾❤️❤️
Forever grateful to you. 🙏
Thank you Rebecca ❤️.
Thank you, your awesome. This has helped me so much. It’s been a long 15 years for me.
You’ve been in court for 15 years?
Hi such a gift to find your guidance. Thank you
Incredible woman Tina is.. Thousand A+ to her. Wow!
Since the onset of the pandemic, it’s no longer possible to sit in the courtroom to observe. It was a smart approach for Tina to visit courtrooms to observe cases.
Thank you for this information I have been damaged by 3 different Narcs in my last marriage. I have eliminated 2 of the 3 so far. Hope I can survive this last step.
I left a previous comment on part 1 and I still stand by it but ono this part 2 segment Tina did very well. Plus she did her research.
🌈🙏💜thank you so much for this! I left longer comment on part 1
Thank you so much I succeeded in managing a very difficult financial situation I found myself in and pondered on your talks girls till 230 last night and then today made perfect decisions all totally worked.
My god, I wish I would have seen this when I went through my divorce. I am still going through the courts with my ex after being divorced for a year and a half. You have described him to a T. I am emotionally exhausted. I purposely waited to divorce until my children became young adults. It didn't matter. He never loved me, yet he never wanted me to leave. I think Tina's strategy to go to court to see how things worked and her networking skills are ingenious. It is so incredibly hard to explain to people what you experienced and how you allowed someone to treat you to the point of being mentally terrified of them without feeling shame. I just got off the phone with my attorney telling him I can't go through this battle any longer. I feel like I am losing everything. He said you're more than halfway there. I will meet with you in my office tomorrow I won't charge you for the visit. I needed to hear this more than you will ever know. Thank you.
Keep going. You can get your second wind. Show up and stand up, YOU matter! Be encouraged.
Wow what a great video. A lot to learn…
Thank you so much 💓
💞 Excellent Video
Thank you!!!
Thank you so much!
This video is awesome!
Again you ladies are angels as far as I’m concerned! May Jehovah bless you all☮️💜🧜🏼♀️
I have no clue what I'm doing 23 years 15 in marriage 3 stays in mental facility 5 children and 19 grandchildren that don't speak to me. Friends of 40 years that think I'm crazy. Alcoholism, drug addiction, physical abuse 3 suicide attempts homeless for the last 3 years. I stood by him when he had cancer now he has 7 cars anything he knew meant anything to me. What friends I have left about 3 are starting to think I'm nuts. I educated myself you women have taught me so much I've been healing with your help for 3 years I like myself one day doubt myself but I will never think death has to be better than my life again. I need this divorce I'm broke I will get money together but I truly am doubting myself again that it will blow up in my face like every time I've had to be in court with this man I'm terrified but it's the final step I will hold that divorce decree as a badge of healing I just don't know how to present this even to an attorney and not sound nuts
I am going thru a guardianship case (petitioning to terminate a guardianship)against my mom (the narcissistic guardian of my daughter), and I’m going THROUGH it, and my mom has a lawyer, and I don’t…so this gives me hope! My moms lawyer is subpoenaing petty and ridiculous things to try to ‘catch me up’…it’s been ROUGH. Thank you so much to you three for this insight!
My therapist stated that her own psychology professor had refused treatment to the one and only narcissist who came in for “treatment” because they themselves did not want to deal with the side effects of being around them. THAT should be enough for all of us to understand just how revolting these types of “humans” are. When someone who is trained/is currently training those who are supposed to deal with mental health disorders doesn’t even want to be near them, it’s absolutely terrifying and hilarious for those of us who have had to deal with them one on one.
Wow, I can relate to so many elements of her story. I felt/feel the same way about being in a warped reality. It seemed so different to me than other people's custody cases. It seemed different to others as well and because it was so crazy, people began questioning me and were almost accusatory as to what I was doing wrong to make things so crazy. Then I got a narcissistic Judge on top of it, and I cannot get any attorney to go to just one hearing in that jurisdiction for less than 10,000.00. That is for one hearing, with me doing all the work. I have been dealing with this for 10 years and he won, but is now being deployed in the military. So, I am going back to court to ensure I get custody of her instead of her step mother. And my daughter is 16 now. Has a job and a car. He told her I filed for custody and she basically cussed me out via text two weeks ago for making her have to deal with this and making her life hell because there would be constant fighting. She said her dad is going to take her car if I win and told me I was "using her dad's absence to manipulate the situation to my advantage", even though I specifically put in my Motion that I formally waived child support and would agree (without the stepmother even asking) to let Saylor go there one weekend a month while he was gone. I also agreed up front that I understood this was not going to be a permanent order and that he was protected by law against a permanent order being issued. My daughter was terrible to me and has not spoken to me in over 2 weeks. It hurts but I am not giving up. He has completely alienated her from me. I have done everything I can to fight but eventually I had top accept the fact that the legal system is not a justice system. I have made daily efforts to stay in her life and stay close. I had no one to help me 10 years ago and I had no idea what I was up against. I was always naieve and always willing to be the nice guy and played ethically and went out of my way to make sure I did not involve her , or even inconvenience her. They used my love for her against me and looking back, it worked brilliantly. THAT IS NOT GOING TO WORK THIS TIME. HE lied and told her that I was forcing her to testify and I told her that I would never involve her or put her in that position and that if she was told that, it not not true, I told her her testimony is not necessary and that it was between her dad and I. She said well you always told me I have a voice and I should use it, so I am am going to testify. My poor baby is completely brainwashed and while I do defend myself, I do not further stir the pot and try to point the finger at him. Even though he deserves that. A lot of people cannot understand that. But to me, it is her well being that matters. She already thinks a certain way about one of her parents. I do not want to further injure her by bad mouthing her dad. I had hoped that she would see that one day and respect me for it. But it is so hard for me in the meantime. Regardless, I will accept pain before I knowingly cause her more pain.
Am so heartbroken and sorry to hear this. Am sorry. Did things get any better?
@@wambuiwamboo3297 no. It's worse than Ever. I haven't seen her since May 19. Thanks for asking and caring
I 💖 you all. Ive been scared to death to go to court... You are a warrior🤗
I just Can't function.
Dr. Ramani, I saw you 1st. I just learned about this shit 5 months ago. Couldn't believe what I was hearing. I scrolled down your video titles, & was so shocked & scared shitless, that sometimes I'd literally jumped back, shut off tablet, lay under blankets and not watch. Till next day😳, even tho I don't 😴 or eat. The past 6 months have been the worst..And it keeps getting crazier. Praying 🙏 it will finally be over June 1st. He says hes leaving my house. He said it in front of a cop, too, not that it matters.They will not help me. Last cop called a few days ago, i forgot I even left a msg, and he was so horrible to me, supposedly lieutenant, that I still can't believe it. I learned something else very bad, and tried to tell him what I found, he started arguing with me, didn't let me report the crime, and asked me about the eviction? Then, he said. You can't keep calling here, you have to do something for yourself!
I don't function, have mmd,ptsd,anxiety disorder, and I've tried to do too many things for months. So, he wins. He can leave whenever. I don't care anymore. There will be no justice for what I've endured and how my mental and physical health has declined. Over an ugly stupid tiny little mfer? But maybe..a smidgen of justice will occur. He told me he doesn't want me to know where he lives? As if!!! If he gets a knock on the door, it won't be from me..he's hacked everything. Should be safe now but if not, hope U enjoy this comment. Damn Devil 😈.
This is such valuable advice I wish I could go into court and watch other cases... unfortunately, we are in a pandemic. in for hearings, the judge hasn't even seen us. Everything is done via phone instead of zoom. It's so frustrating going through this when your hands are tied in so many ways. I can't even get a hold of the court by phone because everyone is working remotely
Also, the judge I have is brand new... He just started 1 month before my case. How do I research him?
I am the grandmother to 4 children who have a narcissistic mother. She is so verbally abusive to them. To the point where the oldest child at 16 ran away from home. I eventually rented a house near her school so she could stay at school and have a safe place. The mother took me to court for kidnapping her child and as she was 16 and I was a safe place it was dismissed. So the mother has then slandered the child and me to everyone she can. Today is graduation and this girl has received awards for top in subjects. But the mother’s friend has sent her abusive texts because she didn’t invite the mother to graduation. I wish I could protect her from all the verbal abuse. There is no congratulations or offer to help with costs or anything helpful. Just abuse. I don’t understand why an adult would send an abusive text to a child that she hasn’t seen for years and knows very little about what is happening.
The children have been seen by a court appointed child advocate and his report was blah even though the oldest girl and her sister told of them types of abuse they are under.
I really would like someone to actually see these kids and see the damage that is being done. The second child talks to me about running away as well but is scared that her mother will hate her too. It is so confusing for a child to not understand that real love is unconditional. They feel they have to please their mother so she will keep loving them.
I listen to your podcasts but they are often the men who are the narcissist and he becomes abusive. But what about when it is the mother and the weapon is manipulating the children to hurt the father.
Thank u learnt so much