Granddad should transfer title to the grandchildren from the first marriage. That way it stays in the family and mum keeps a home until death or until she is evicted or vacates for her own children. This woman and her husband needn't have anything to do with it at all.
I didn’t really expect Dave to react in a way he did. Grandpa took a care of a woman by housing her because she was taking care of the grandkids. I can even speculate and say the woman on the phone was a mistress. Absolutely nothing wrong to make sure the grandkids don’t end up on the rough end of the town
Agreed, there’s more to the story. Would love to hear the ex-wife’s version. Maybe the son wasn’t present as a father and that’s why the dad felt that he needed to step in.
True. But why can't she pay any kind of rent then? If its about the kdis pay what you can would make sense. Doesn't sound like she even pays utilitise? Also doesn't sound like the ex-husband just threw her in the street with the kids and said "adios, I ain't paying shit". Also Dave says in the end that he did something that wasn’t very smart but loving, but now its becoming an issue for the ex-husband (who's an ec for a reason!). Can't imagaine even the wife want her ex to own her house.
Why is the current wife calling into the show? The house (as of right now) belongs to granddad so he can do with it as he wished. He did it so his grandkids have a nice place to be raised in, so daughter-in-law can raise his grandkids without having to financially worry about rent. Why is the current wife calling into the show? When granddad dies, the house will go to her husband, not the current wife. So why is she calling into the show? If her husband has a problem with it, he should call into the show, not the current wife. Sounds to me, it's the current wife who has a problem with the ex-wife living rent free even though it's none of her business as the house doesn't belong to her.
obviously th grandad want to pass on the house to her husband, who's too chicken to take care of the mess. I bet the caller has to make a lot of household decisions cause the husband is too lazy/chicken to take on the responsibilities
Why is the current wife calling Dave? The FIL owns a house. It’s not her business to tell him to put the ex out on the street. If she wants her husband to do that, fine, but that could be in 20 years.
Exactly. It sounds like everyone is fine with the situation, everyone except the current wife. Sounds like she's the only one who has a problem with it even though it's none of her business as the house (as of right now) belongs to granddad.
What we do know is people can be all up in their feelings in these situations. But the father in law is free to do whatever he pleases, it's the mother of his grandchildren. If she was a good woman, he will not care for all the extra drama. He's an old school man.
@@scottbrown7379 She isn’t married to her Father-in-Law, therefore whatever her Father-in-Law currently does with HIS money is NONE of her business. Simple.
That's what I thought. The son ditched his family for that new shiny toy, and grandpa stepped in to make sure that his grandchildren and his ex- daughter inlaw didn't end up living a life of poverty and struggle. A thoroughly decent and humane thing to do. The way people now chuck over their family and responsibilities so easily is one of the reasons there is so much suffering in this world.
Sorry but Dave handled this call very badly. Really just give her 30 days and kick her out for a house which was bought and paid for by the FIL just because you're jealous? Has she considered how such an action will impact her husband's relationship with his children?
The caller made it seem super weird until you dig in. The ex was raising his grand kids. Anyone with money and a heart would do something like this. The caller made it seem like father in law bought the house for her. I don't see a problem here.
This is totally stupid. Hubby needs to be a MAN and get his Dad to kick out the freeloader or not give away the house. They're no way I would want to inherit the house and go through the work of evicting my ex. That's just stupidity beyond belief!!
PEOPLE....Maybe the Ex wife has a disability, or maybe she was/is struggling with health problems and couldn't/can't work to provide for ALL needs (or even any wants). If his family has money, maybe out of the kindness of his heart the father-in-law (FIL) is helping to support her so that his grandkids can have somewhat of a 'normal' life! Not everyone is a lazy freeloader!!! There could be so much more to this story! Nevertheless, with all that said, the FIL does need to find a way to finalize the deal with this situation instead of passing the entire thing onto his son and Daughter-in-law. If she is indeed disabled or had some sort of health problem, I'd say he should just gift her the house and deed it to her. Son and DIL seems to be doing ok for themselves financially and may not even need the 15 yr old house.
The caller and her hubby would get paid, say $200K (assuming an average family house) for the trouble of evicting his ex and then selling the house. This arrangement also puts hubby in the position of distributing the home sale proceeds to the grandkids if that is grandpa's actual wish here. I also have a feeling the ex isn't capable of owning the house herself or she would' inherit it directly.
Dave either doesn't understand this as explained, or lacks the understanding of relationships. Just because of a divorce or a break-up that doesn't break a relationship between the grandparents and the childrens mother. I think the idea that after a breakup you should cut off communication is stupid. That teaches humans to not be human or to be a dumb human. This situation seems like a problem with the new women.........my women respects the fact that I respect my kids mother, period! He needs to hand over the deed to the kids mother and just be done with it. If he wants to keep it and deal with it well then that's his choice. New wife sounds annoying, so did Dave.
Wait. It’s FIL’s house, though. 🤔 He can let whoever he wants live there. He can even gift the house to ex daughter in law if he wants to. That’s not weird, imo. Some people donate to charities, others to extended family. Why is the new daughter in law getting involved in this? Let the husband handle it. This precedes her and it has nothing to do with her.
This is why divorce is stupid. This husband took his ex to his dad and asked him to accept her as his daughter. Now when he decides he no longer wants to be her husband, the dad must just write her off as a daughter? Maybe grandpa takes his vows seriously.
Once divorced, the father-in-law is free to deal with the ex-wife any which way he wants, once he dies and the son inherits the house, he too can deal with the now tenant, cut out the drama girls
If I had someone do this for my mother when my parents divorced, it would have been the greatest gift. I spent years worried about my mom's financial stability and lived with her to help pay the rent and bills. I was unable to start my own life as a young adult. The strain was enormous and my father did not care. He moved on quickly with a new wife. I think that Grandad should have a plan in place with the ex so that there was a mutual understanding. Perhaps she moves out after the kids are adults, or the house is fully deeded to the grandkids, but with the expectation that mom pays the taxes and manages the upkeep of the home until her death.
Why is she even calling on this? This is none of her business. It’s his father’s house. He can do whatever he wants to with it while he is alive. Once he isn’t here anymore, the husband can simply evict her. This is another instance of someone putting their two cents in where it doesn’t belong.
The Father dies, the house transfer to the husband, How is the TITLE held? Married man, Sole and Separate property or Joint Tenancy or Joint Tenancy with rights of suvivorship.
@@esonon5210He doesn't have to. He hires a lawyer to evict her. Pretty sure she knows she will be moving out once FIL dies. He could give her a month or two to get out. Unless he thinks she's gonna trash the place (doesn't sound like it).
The husband can't tell his dad what to do with his own money. So the husbands backbone is not in question for what the dad buys. He can tell the dad to not give him the house on the dad's death. And I just wish John wasn't on the show.
It's a Beneficiary Deed (Transfer on Death), it avoids probate, transfer is free. You don't have to tell the Beneficiary. The County will track him down.
Why do I feel like there's so much information being left out? Like maybe his current wife cheated with that lady's husband to begin with! Or maybe she is paying Grandpa and Grandpa is not wanting to take it! So many questions and so much betterness in this woman's voice!! And how many kids were there? And how old is this woman and is she disabled!? Just too many unanswered questions! And why would you not want to keep that house if you inherit it? Heck you can sell it then and have more money! I don't think you're anywhere close to spot on about this Dave! Why is there no option as far as she can live there but she's going to start paying you rent and or bills!
This new wife is a real vulture. She snoops around and "just happens" to find this document. She already thinks the house should belong to "her." If/when her husband gets the house, he can do the right thing which is to deed it to the children born from "him and his ex-wife", but that would upset his new wife. And no Dave, this situation isn't "weird." Just because a man terminated his marriage vows doesn't oblige the man's father to automatically terminate his relationship with the woman he has accepted for years as his daughter.
I didn’t know vultures were known to give away stuff because that was an option SHE put forth and that’s just to deed it to the ex-wife instead of the husband so THEY don’t have to deal with it because THEY are married and share assets
Ex-wife sounds better than current wife. I hope grandpa leaves it to the ex. Clearly grandpa doesn't want this asset in the greedy new wife's clutches.
And the problem is what? What is weird about this? He was helping with his grandkids. The husband can evict her. His father does not have to do anything.
The hosts don't have enough information to make these conclusions. Saying the husband doesn't have a backbone without knowing what has happened? The husband could have talked to the grandad and the grandad, being the owner, decided to do what he wants. The ex-wife is not out of the husband's life because they have kids. It's possible they could all have a conversation and agree that upon the granddad's passing, the ex-wife will move out (or sooner). No one knows because the conversations have not happened.
Dave hates the first wife, even though she probably has the kids etc. Yet he’d be at the pulpit ranting about the sanctity of marriage. All very strange the lack of truth.
A lot of people in these comments don’t seem to grasp that as things stand right now, when the father-in-law passes away, her husband is going to become landlord and/or financial provider for his ex-wife, or have to put the mother of his children out on the street which is going to create a huge rift between him and his children.
Yup. Is the ex-husband the one having a problem with it or is it the current wife who has a problem with it? It sounds like it's the current wife who doesn't like the situation and doesn't want her husband's ex-wife to live rent free once granddad dies. The current wife is the one calling in to complain, not her husband (who will own the house eventually). What kind of a relationship will the ex-husband have with his kids if he kicked his ex-wife (the kids mother) out of the house?
That's a good point. But of course, the grandfather is thinking the same thing. He doesn't want to be the "bad guy" either by evicting his grandchildren's mother. IMO, this future inheritance issue should be none of her business, but since she wants that house money, she's going to have to be ruthless to get it.
@@terminaterjohn But the house, as of right now, still belongs to granddad, he can have his daughter in-law live rent free if he wants. Granddad is not dead yet. So why is the current wife calling into the show about a situation that has nothing to do with her? The granddad could still live for 20 more years before he dies and the house finally goes to his son (current wife's husband). Current wife has no business telling grandad what to do with his house, so why is she calling into the show?
@@terriesmith2616 bc the wife is part of the husband's life. This affects her too. I agree it should be the husband annoyed but its not. So current wife, who was probably the mistress before, has to call.
The grandfather should leave the house to the ex-wife and his grandchildren of that marriage. Since the father wants to leave the property to his son, the son is not obligated to anyone once it’s under his ownership.
If dad is put in a position to evict mom, kids will resent dad. Granddad created this so he needs to take care of it. imo, Granddad should deed the house to the grandkids. After all, that's why he bought the house to begin with, right, to take care of the grandkids?
My first thought: How did this caller "happen to come across" this document? Obviously her husband didn't include her in any discussion about this matter. Maybe husband is in 100% agreement with his dad's decision to allow the ex to live rent free, forever! New wife wasn't privy to this decision: maybe husband and her father-in-law feel it's none of her beeswax. Dave & John may have dropped the ball on this one, taking the caller's side without knowing any of the juicy underlying details!
It's grandpa's house and money. If he wants her to live there then he should sign it over to her upon his passing. Giving it to his son puts the son in an awkward position of either housing his ex or kicking her out. Not conventional but grandpa means well
Grandpa should cut his son out of his inheritances if the son and his wife isn't willing to honor his wishes. Grandpa should leave his son share to the grandchildren. Problem solved.
first dave said deed the house over to the ex, then he said, no way he's giving the house to this woman, then says deed the house over to the ex....which is it? I can't stand Baloney always making everything a counseling session. This call was made more confusing by dave and baloney
Its the Father's house he can let anyone live there. He can leave it to anyone.Maybe grandpa is friendly with the ex. Who cares. It is HIS house. Simple solution, change the will and leave the house to the ex. Husband's name is not on the deed. What is the problem?
If the caller's husband is going to inherit the house when he dies, it's very reasonable to ask about this. Don't you think it's super sus that your ex's father bought a house for you to stay in?
No because when the husband owns it he can do what he wants. Right now he doesn’t so there’s nothing he can do. Is it weird? Yes. But maybe her husband was a scumbag to her.
My grandparents kept a pretty good relationship with my mom after the divorce (the way my mom describes it "I divorced my husband, not my in-laws"), and actually my parents became pretty good friends about 5-10 years after the divorce and they realized they make way better friends than lovers. But even that circumstance my grandparents didn't do anything financially for my mom. My dad was the one who got custody, so there weren't kids that she needed to take care of/
Why would any solution here be for her husband to not inherent an asset worth hundreds of thousands of dollars? You inherent it when he dies and sell it. She has to move or work out a deal with the new homeowner. Dave saying “just say you don’t want it” and essentially throw away hundreds of thousands of dollars is absurd.
Dave you should've told her to mind her business . There's more to this story than she's telling you. Dave check the comments. You're wrong on this one buddy.
Why is everyone saying the wife shouldn’t get involved? If the house is passed to the husband upon death then it becomes both their responsibility to take care of because I’m assuming they share finances so it would be both of their money going towards either paying for the ex to keep living there or go through the whole process of eviction.
@michaelh2282 too bad, so sad. My assumption is that father in law also has separate assets that the son would inherit. Yeah, new wife can't get every penny of father in laws money? I'm not going to feel bad for her.
I can (sorta) see it from the aspect of wanting the grandkids to have a place to live, but they're grown and gone. WAY past time for ex to move on. Grandpa just doesn't have a spine, either. He doesn't want to deal with the ex (and the likely resentment from grandkids for evicting their Mom).
Husband needs to grow a pair and tell his wife to mind her business. It’s his father’s house. He can do as he pleases. When he dies, if the house is left to her husband he can do as he wishes. Nothing to be calling up and crying about.
I don't think it's a weird as it sounds. Maybe the FIL is loaded, and 15 years ago knew he raised a deadbeat (like a lot of kids who grow up wealthy... it's just the sad truth) who wouldn't pay child support and wanted to be sure his grandkids didn't end up in a bad housing situation. If FIL paid for the house then it's really none of anybody else's business who he decided will inherit it. Now granted, neither should the husband be expected to provide for the living expenses of his ex wife especially now that the kids are grown, outside of some sort of alimony ordered by a judge but that doesn't appear to be the case here. I think the best option was mentioned in at least one of the other comments, which is for FIL to place the home in a trust for ownership to pass on his death to the grandchildren but with the option for the ex wife to live in the home until her death. I imagine that's what the grandchildren would want anyway assuming they have a good relationship with their mother. And during her life she should pay for the property taxes, insurance, and maintenance since she'll be the one living there. Thankfully my parents are still married, love each other and I cannot fathom them ever divorcing. But, speaking myself as both a father and as a son, if my father was divorced from my mother and I watched him have her evicted from a house she'd lived in for decades that he didn't even pay for himself, I don't see how I could still respect him. Tell me what part of doing that isn't just blatant greed and not Christ like?
And when they evict her after Gpa dies, or Gpa has her move out, husband's adults kids will think they're the devil. She hadn't been paying upkeep, taxes, etc. wash your hands of it. Let Gpa leave the house to her, it will fall into disarray, unpd taxes and either the kids will bail her out or the county will put it up at a sheriff's sale. Not your problem- your husband's to deal with.
Grandpa should just give it to th exwife. unless she's a complete spendthrift it will wind up in his grandkids hands eventually. Or just deed it direct to the most responsible grandkid. Sounds like they are all established adults now anyway.
This brings up a question of, if you don't want to accept what is willed to you do you still have to deal with it? I think she said it was maybe in both their names in which case he would get the house by default.
Deloney is like that annoying guest at a wedding that thinks he is the life of the party and interrupts to get attention, while the rest of us want him to be quiet so we can focus on the bride and groom (Dave and Caller)
Even when there's divorce you still make sure those once dependent on you are taken care of. If the dad had the money than it's great that he took care of the ex-wife.
Not Walmart with the backbone. He will probably sign the house over to her, if the husband does that. Yeah, unfortunately I’ve seen some weird stuff with people and their exes. I have some in my family. So I have seen it first hand.
Sounds like there was marriage trouble and grandad put ex wife in a house. Seems the husband is the problem..and the wife (the new one) seems to be in denial. Maybe she was the one treated well.
@@eclipse.5295 I know it's strange. I'm not married and certainly not a grandparent. But if my daughter was in an abusive relationship or my daughter in law was not being cared for I would help them. That's the only reason I would.
@@wordsalad01 I agree, I would either have the ex pay off the house and give her the deed. Or give her the home and the deed. Its grandads money and house. He can do what he wants as long as the son and new wife are not on the hook to pay anything on the home. The new wife is just petty. I could understand if the ex was meddling in her marriage, being nasty or trashed the home. Her husband's ex is none of her business unless she interferes
Rental contract executed upon gpas death. as per the estate. House to a property management company. You guys cash flow. OR if she decides not to live in it. You guys can live in it for two years and sell it and keep what 200k 300k TAX FREE? Did anyone think to ask what it was worth? Never seen such lack of context and assumptions about everyone's intent....
Marriage counselor needed asap. The FIL is forcing a long term connection that is not healthy for the current marriage. Otherwise it feels like the husband has two wife households.
I think the husband should just let his Dad think he’s going to keep taking care of the Ex then get her out once his dad is gone. I know it’s being avoidant but I wouldn’t rock the boat.
Granddad should transfer title to the grandchildren from the first marriage. That way it stays in the family and mum keeps a home until death or until she is evicted or vacates for her own children. This woman and her husband needn't have anything to do with it at all.
Excellent solution. How Dave missed the fact that grandpa didn't want the grandkids to have to worry about mom is beyond me.
I didn’t really expect Dave to react in a way he did. Grandpa took a care of a woman by housing her because she was taking care of the grandkids. I can even speculate and say the woman on the phone was a mistress. Absolutely nothing wrong to make sure the grandkids don’t end up on the rough end of the town
Exactly!!! Dave doesn’t think sometimes.
Except for the fact that the deal didn't change even after grandkids were out of the house
@@robertmittoniii5427 right. Key point is that he did it for the kids.. who I assume are at the age of 25+ now. She needs to take care of herself now.
Agreed, there’s more to the story. Would love to hear the ex-wife’s version. Maybe the son wasn’t present as a father and that’s why the dad felt that he needed to step in.
True. But why can't she pay any kind of rent then? If its about the kdis pay what you can would make sense. Doesn't sound like she even pays utilitise? Also doesn't sound like the ex-husband just threw her in the street with the kids and said "adios, I ain't paying shit". Also Dave says in the end that he did something that wasn’t very smart but loving, but now its becoming an issue for the ex-husband (who's an ec for a reason!). Can't imagaine even the wife want her ex to own her house.
Why is the current wife calling into the show? The house (as of right now) belongs to granddad so he can do with it as he wished. He did it so his grandkids have a nice place to be raised in, so daughter-in-law can raise his grandkids without having to financially worry about rent.
Why is the current wife calling into the show?
When granddad dies, the house will go to her husband, not the current wife. So why is she calling into the show? If her husband has a problem with it, he should call into the show, not the current wife.
Sounds to me, it's the current wife who has a problem with the ex-wife living rent free even though it's none of her business as the house doesn't belong to her.
Exactly. Grandpa is smart enough to know his grandkids don't want to see mom out on the streets, too. He's a good guy and this is his property.
obviously th grandad want to pass on the house to her husband, who's too chicken to take care of the mess. I bet the caller has to make a lot of household decisions cause the husband is too lazy/chicken to take on the responsibilities
Why is the current wife calling Dave? The FIL owns a house. It’s not her business to tell him to put the ex out on the street. If she wants her husband to do that, fine, but that could be in 20 years.
Probably because when the dad dies tomorrow, it's her problem.
That is a lot of drama. Man.
Exactly.
It sounds like everyone is fine with the situation, everyone except the current wife. Sounds like she's the only one who has a problem with it even though it's none of her business as the house (as of right now) belongs to granddad.
Watch the vid.
Agreed. If an beneficiary doesn't want to to honor my wishes, I would cut them out and give his or her share to the grandchildren.
“Just happened to see a paper” 😂
At the bottom of a locked safe
There’s more to this story than she’s letting on
There's way more to this story. The FIL brought the house for a reason. These type of questions should be brought up in counseling, not a podcast.
That's what I'm thinking. Dave is completely assuming the ex wife was the problem. I want her side of the story.
I agree, but unfortunately, we will never find out.
Sounds like gramps didn’t agree with the divorce
I agree
What if her husband cheated on his ex wife and his father saw his ex daughter in law as an extra daughter?
That's a possibility. We just don't know.
The current wife could've been the mistress, a home wrecker, we just don't know.
What we do know is people can be all up in their feelings in these situations. But the father in law is free to do whatever he pleases, it's the mother of his grandchildren. If she was a good woman, he will not care for all the extra drama. He's an old school man.
Interesting point
Maybe the husband cheated on his ex with his new wife and his father felt sorry for the mother of his grand kids. Who knows?
It is none of her business, what her FIL does with his money! FFS!
it is her business when her coward husband didn't want to take care of this mess when he inherit the house eventually
@@Jane-rh7tc WRONG
@@chuckgoodman3828genuinly interested in your way of thinking chuck, why dont you think its her buisness if shes going to inherit the problem?
@@scottbrown7379 She isn’t married to her Father-in-Law, therefore whatever her Father-in-Law currently does with HIS money is NONE of her business. Simple.
Okay this new wife was once the mistress. Grandpa loves the ex wife and never accepted the home wrecker. This has to be it.
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It's called a grandparent who doesn't want his grandkids living in a trailer park.
Yep
Maybe or maybe wanted the grandchildren to have a place to stay
That's what I thought. The son ditched his family for that new shiny toy, and grandpa stepped in to make sure that his grandchildren and his ex- daughter inlaw didn't end up living a life of poverty and struggle. A thoroughly decent and humane thing to do. The way people now chuck over their family and responsibilities so easily is one of the reasons there is so much suffering in this world.
The current wife is jealous of the ex-wife's good relation with the father-in-law.
yes, makes you wonder the back story..... leave house to the grandkids.
As she should. THEY ARE DIVORCED!
There shouldnt be any relationship at all
she actually wanted to give the house to the ex wife so they don't have to deal with this mess, Dave said no don't do that
Sorry but Dave handled this call very badly. Really just give her 30 days and kick her out for a house which was bought and paid for by the FIL just because you're jealous?
Has she considered how such an action will impact her husband's relationship with his children?
The caller made it seem super weird until you dig in. The ex was raising his grand kids. Anyone with money and a heart would do something like this. The caller made it seem like father in law bought the house for her.
I don't see a problem here.
This is totally stupid. Hubby needs to be a MAN and get his Dad to kick out the freeloader or not give away the house. They're no way I would want to inherit the house and go through the work of evicting my ex. That's just stupidity beyond belief!!
Raising the grandkids is the ex's job!! She's a freeloader, so she should be able to afford it!!
PEOPLE....Maybe the Ex wife has a disability, or maybe she was/is struggling with health problems and couldn't/can't work to provide for ALL needs (or even any wants). If his family has money, maybe out of the kindness of his heart the father-in-law (FIL) is helping to support her so that his grandkids can have somewhat of a 'normal' life! Not everyone is a lazy freeloader!!! There could be so much more to this story! Nevertheless, with all that said, the FIL does need to find a way to finalize the deal with this situation instead of passing the entire thing onto his son and Daughter-in-law. If she is indeed disabled or had some sort of health problem, I'd say he should just gift her the house and deed it to her. Son and DIL seems to be doing ok for themselves financially and may not even need the 15 yr old house.
The caller and her hubby would get paid, say $200K (assuming an average family house) for the trouble of evicting his ex and then selling the house. This arrangement also puts hubby in the position of distributing the home sale proceeds to the grandkids if that is grandpa's actual wish here. I also have a feeling the ex isn't capable of owning the house herself or she would' inherit it directly.
Dave either doesn't understand this as explained, or lacks the understanding of relationships. Just because of a divorce or a break-up that doesn't break a relationship between the grandparents and the childrens mother. I think the idea that after a breakup you should cut off communication is stupid. That teaches humans to not be human or to be a dumb human. This situation seems like a problem with the new women.........my women respects the fact that I respect my kids mother, period! He needs to hand over the deed to the kids mother and just be done with it. If he wants to keep it and deal with it well then that's his choice. New wife sounds annoying, so did Dave.
If grandpa wants his grandkids in a nice house. Not your business. Really none of it is her business.
Yes
I believe they said the kids are now grown.
Wait. It’s FIL’s house, though. 🤔 He can let whoever he wants live there. He can even gift the house to ex daughter in law if he wants to. That’s not weird, imo. Some people donate to charities, others to extended family.
Why is the new daughter in law getting involved in this? Let the husband handle it. This precedes her and it has nothing to do with her.
Every divorce brings strange dynamics to a family. It's never easy
This is why divorce is stupid. This husband took his ex to his dad and asked him to accept her as his daughter. Now when he decides he no longer wants to be her husband, the dad must just write her off as a daughter? Maybe grandpa takes his vows seriously.
Well, divorce is great if you are married to a monster.
You typed a mouthful!!
Once divorced, the father-in-law is free to deal with the ex-wife any which way he wants, once he dies and the son inherits the house, he too can deal with the now tenant, cut out the drama girls
I agree, it is none of anybody's what the father-in-law does with his money.
Agreed. This is a ridiculous call.
@@adamseidel9780 as well as ridiculous advice
True.
Advice is great!! Kick out the freeloader!!
If I had someone do this for my mother when my parents divorced, it would have been the greatest gift. I spent years worried about my mom's financial stability and lived with her to help pay the rent and bills. I was unable to start my own life as a young adult. The strain was enormous and my father did not care. He moved on quickly with a new wife.
I think that Grandad should have a plan in place with the ex so that there was a mutual understanding. Perhaps she moves out after the kids are adults, or the house is fully deeded to the grandkids, but with the expectation that mom pays the taxes and manages the upkeep of the home until her death.
Dave got me with the "Run to walmart and get your husband a backbone." That was funny.
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Why is she even calling on this? This is none of her business. It’s his father’s house. He can do whatever he wants to with it while he is alive. Once he isn’t here anymore, the husband can simply evict her. This is another instance of someone putting their two cents in where it doesn’t belong.
The caller's husband doesn't want to deal with her.
He needs to man up and tell her to mind her business.
The Father dies, the house transfer to the husband,
How is the TITLE held?
Married man, Sole and Separate property or
Joint Tenancy or
Joint Tenancy with rights of suvivorship.
It probably will create a huge rift with his children, given it's their mother and childhood home.
@@esonon5210He doesn't have to. He hires a lawyer to evict her. Pretty sure she knows she will be moving out once FIL dies. He could give her a month or two to get out. Unless he thinks she's gonna trash the place (doesn't sound like it).
This is why people hate step mothers.
Or just give her the house if you don't want to kick her out or maintain it.
The husband can't tell his dad what to do with his own money. So the husbands backbone is not in question for what the dad buys. He can tell the dad to not give him the house on the dad's death. And I just wish John wasn't on the show.
Me too
Me too.
John always finds problems where it doesn't exist or he makes mountains out of a mole hill.
It's a Beneficiary Deed (Transfer on Death), it avoids probate, transfer is free.
You don't have to tell the Beneficiary.
The County will track him down.
Why do I feel like there's so much information being left out? Like maybe his current wife cheated with that lady's husband to begin with! Or maybe she is paying Grandpa and Grandpa is not wanting to take it! So many questions and so much betterness in this woman's voice!! And how many kids were there? And how old is this woman and is she disabled!? Just too many unanswered questions! And why would you not want to keep that house if you inherit it? Heck you can sell it then and have more money! I don't think you're anywhere close to spot on about this Dave! Why is there no option as far as she can live there but she's going to start paying you rent and or bills!
This new wife is a real vulture. She snoops around and "just happens" to find this document.
She already thinks the house should belong to "her." If/when her husband gets the house, he can do the right thing which is to deed it to the children born from "him and his ex-wife", but that would upset his new wife.
And no Dave, this situation isn't "weird." Just because a man terminated his marriage vows doesn't oblige the man's father to automatically terminate his relationship with the woman he has accepted for years as his daughter.
The father in law sounds like a wonderful man. He knew his son did wrong by his ex wife and wanted to help and also have a place for his grandkids.
@@Hiker2110 Yep! He should put the house to the ex wife, this woman sounds like a vulture
Deed the house to the grandkids. Then they can let their mom live in it until she dies. Granddad is a decent man.
This woman is a home wrecker and wants it all…his dad was a good man!
I didn’t know vultures were known to give away stuff because that was an option SHE put forth and that’s just to deed it to the ex-wife instead of the husband so THEY don’t have to deal with it because THEY are married and share assets
Ex-wife sounds better than current wife. I hope grandpa leaves it to the ex. Clearly grandpa doesn't want this asset in the greedy new wife's clutches.
Not enough information. We need to have husband, father-in-law, or ex-wife call in.
She’s a home wrecker and the father didnt like her!… I don’t like this woman either!… Dave y’all not even tryna understand what may have caused that
And the problem is what?
What is weird about this?
He was helping with his grandkids.
The husband can evict her. His father does not have to do anything.
The children may be upset if their mother is out on the streets.
Then they can buy her a house. 😅
The hosts don't have enough information to make these conclusions. Saying the husband doesn't have a backbone without knowing what has happened? The husband could have talked to the grandad and the grandad, being the owner, decided to do what he wants. The ex-wife is not out of the husband's life because they have kids. It's possible they could all have a conversation and agree that upon the granddad's passing, the ex-wife will move out (or sooner). No one knows because the conversations have not happened.
Sometimes Dave jumps to the wrong conclusions and goes all in on bad advice 😂
"And the moonshine is still out back?" 😂💀
Dave hates the first wife, even though she probably has the kids etc. Yet he’d be at the pulpit ranting about the sanctity of marriage. All very strange the lack of truth.
Her husband may be a real loser. There may have been a legitimate reason grandpa stepped up to the plate for his grandkids and x daughter in law.
No he’s not a loser he is remarried he just has to pay child 👧🏽 support
@@queen.kristal8395
Every situation is different as I’m sure you could find examples of in your own life.
A lot of people in these comments don’t seem to grasp that as things stand right now, when the father-in-law passes away, her husband is going to become landlord and/or financial provider for his ex-wife, or have to put the mother of his children out on the street which is going to create a huge rift between him and his children.
Yup.
Is the ex-husband the one having a problem with it or is it the current wife who has a problem with it?
It sounds like it's the current wife who doesn't like the situation and doesn't want her husband's ex-wife to live rent free once granddad dies.
The current wife is the one calling in to complain, not her husband (who will own the house eventually).
What kind of a relationship will the ex-husband have with his kids if he kicked his ex-wife (the kids mother) out of the house?
That's a good point. But of course, the grandfather is thinking the same thing. He doesn't want to be the "bad guy" either by evicting his grandchildren's mother.
IMO, this future inheritance issue should be none of her business, but since she wants that house money, she's going to have to be ruthless to get it.
@@terriesmith2616 bc she's living rent free. That's why. If kids don't grasp that, parents failed in raising them.
@@terminaterjohn
But the house, as of right now, still belongs to granddad, he can have his daughter in-law live rent free if he wants. Granddad is not dead yet. So why is the current wife calling into the show about a situation that has nothing to do with her?
The granddad could still live for 20 more years before he dies and the house finally goes to his son (current wife's husband). Current wife has no business telling grandad what to do with his house, so why is she calling into the show?
@@terriesmith2616 bc the wife is part of the husband's life. This affects her too. I agree it should be the husband annoyed but its not. So current wife, who was probably the mistress before, has to call.
Grandpa did a great deed for his grandkids, but there’s no reason to keep her anymore, she should’ve saved plenty of money by now.
The grandfather should leave the house to the ex-wife and his grandchildren of that marriage. Since the father wants to leave the property to his son, the son is not obligated to anyone once it’s under his ownership.
The husband doesn’t love his current wife. She knows it.
If dad is put in a position to evict mom, kids will resent dad. Granddad created this so he needs to take care of it. imo, Granddad should deed the house to the grandkids. After all, that's why he bought the house to begin with, right, to take care of the grandkids?
This is the actual solution, Grandpa needs to skip his son in the inheritance. Either that or give his ex DIL the house instead of his son.
My first thought: How did this caller "happen to come across" this document? Obviously her husband didn't include her in any discussion about this matter. Maybe husband is in 100% agreement with his dad's decision to allow the ex to live rent free, forever! New wife wasn't privy to this decision: maybe husband and her father-in-law feel it's none of her beeswax. Dave & John may have dropped the ball on this one, taking the caller's side without knowing any of the juicy underlying details!
Give her the house and move on. Clearly there is a back story here
It's grandpa's house and money. If he wants her to live there then he should sign it over to her upon his passing. Giving it to his son puts the son in an awkward position of either housing his ex or kicking her out. Not conventional but grandpa means well
It is his money and his choice. Should tell father to leave the house to Ex.
Did anyone just start hearing "I am my own Grandpa" playing in your head right at the start?
Googled this and had the best laugh!!!!!!!
Grandpa should cut his son out of his inheritances if the son and his wife isn't willing to honor his wishes. Grandpa should leave his son share to the grandchildren.
Problem solved.
"This sounds Hillbilly already"...😂😂
first dave said deed the house over to the ex, then he said, no way he's giving the house to this woman, then says deed the house over to the ex....which is it? I can't stand Baloney always making everything a counseling session. This call was made more confusing by dave and baloney
Hey Ex wife, if you are wayching let us know your side of the story 😅
Gramps can do whatever he wants. Mind your business.
Tuned into Dave Ramsey, got Jerry Springer
@VJ S You don't know how loud I was laughing at your comment. (lol). Thank you for making my day. I needed that!🤣🤣😂😂
Its the Father's house he can let anyone live there. He can leave it to anyone.Maybe grandpa is friendly with the ex. Who cares. It is HIS house. Simple solution, change the will and leave the house to the ex. Husband's name is not on the deed. What is the problem?
If the caller's husband is going to inherit the house when he dies, it's very reasonable to ask about this. Don't you think it's super sus that your ex's father bought a house for you to stay in?
No because when the husband owns it he can do what he wants. Right now he doesn’t so there’s nothing he can do. Is it weird? Yes. But maybe her husband was a scumbag to her.
🤩🤩🤩LOL..DAVE IS HILARIOUS!!!!!!😆😆😆😆😆
My grandparents kept a pretty good relationship with my mom after the divorce (the way my mom describes it "I divorced my husband, not my in-laws"), and actually my parents became pretty good friends about 5-10 years after the divorce and they realized they make way better friends than lovers. But even that circumstance my grandparents didn't do anything financially for my mom. My dad was the one who got custody, so there weren't kids that she needed to take care of/
I might have just scorched the entire inside of my toilet bowl
My family remains close after divorce.
That sounded more like Italian than French, Dave. 😆
Grandpa needs to leave it to the grandkids. Keep the son and daughter in law and ex wife out of it.
No. No. No. Don't say anything. Once the dad passes, she either pays rent or move and they sell. Period.
Hopefully the Father in Law will just give the house to ex wife.
Why would any solution here be for her husband to not inherent an asset worth hundreds of thousands of dollars? You inherent it when he dies and sell it. She has to move or work out a deal with the new homeowner. Dave saying “just say you don’t want it” and essentially throw away hundreds of thousands of dollars is absurd.
Boils down to, how much is Piece of Mind worth?
Because is the right thing to do? He knows what his father wants, hiding the fact that he won't do it makes him a bad person.
Not meaning to be rude, but trying to understand; did you mean "inherent" or "inherit"? Completely different words and meanings.
@@lovecats6856 it is a typo, inherit, something handed down to you by another, usually a fami,y member, as money or property
@@lovecats6856 "Don't mean to be rude but you had a typo" lol I love the internet
Also, "did" would work better than "do" in your comment :P
This is into which baby steps? 😂
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Dave you should've told her to mind her business . There's more to this story than she's telling you. Dave check the comments. You're wrong on this one buddy.
Ex wife is in good term with father in law; nothing is wrong with that. Maybe the new wife is envious!
It is grandpa's money so his choice not son and certainly not DIL's business while grandpa is living.
The guy is trying to help his grandkids, I think Dave is overreacting. I will build a house on the moon for my grandkids if I can.
This!!!!
Yes, Dave also devalued motherhood too.
The Grandfather bought the house for the kids, but the kids are grown and gone so its time for the Ex to go too.
@@Gramps935 Or offer for her to buy it?
@@eclipse.5295 Thats a reasonable option too
Why is everyone saying the wife shouldn’t get involved? If the house is passed to the husband upon death then it becomes both their responsibility to take care of because I’m assuming they share finances so it would be both of their money going towards either paying for the ex to keep living there or go through the whole process of eviction.
When the husband gets the home, he just asks her to leave. If she doesn't. Evict her.
Yeah. It's not that hard.
Easy. Do they really want to invite Grandpa to give her the house???
Dave, go to Walmart for a backbone 🤣🤣🤣
I would deed the house to the children upon death and have them deal with momma. It was a gift to them all along. The cost of divorce.
That would be the right thing to do, but the new wife wants that house money for her family and kids.
@michaelh2282 too bad, so sad.
My assumption is that father in law also has separate assets that the son would inherit.
Yeah, new wife can't get every penny of father in laws money? I'm not going to feel bad for her.
Why can’t she buy it??? Why was that not given as an option? Ex wife might be very nice…
Can she afford it? If she could, she'd probably have bought it herself.
@@PhilipMarcYT Maybe they never even thought of offering it for her to purchase
These Tennessee-Texas boys AINT havin it. 😝
This make have the children dislike the step mother. Why not put the house in the kids name.
I can (sorta) see it from the aspect of wanting the grandkids to have a place to live, but they're grown and gone. WAY past time for ex to move on. Grandpa just doesn't have a spine, either. He doesn't want to deal with the ex (and the likely resentment from grandkids for evicting their Mom).
Husband needs to grow a pair and tell his wife to mind her business. It’s his father’s house. He can do as he pleases. When he dies, if the house is left to her husband he can do as he wishes. Nothing to be calling up and crying about.
A mess! 😮😮
I don't think it's a weird as it sounds. Maybe the FIL is loaded, and 15 years ago knew he raised a deadbeat (like a lot of kids who grow up wealthy... it's just the sad truth) who wouldn't pay child support and wanted to be sure his grandkids didn't end up in a bad housing situation. If FIL paid for the house then it's really none of anybody else's business who he decided will inherit it. Now granted, neither should the husband be expected to provide for the living expenses of his ex wife especially now that the kids are grown, outside of some sort of alimony ordered by a judge but that doesn't appear to be the case here. I think the best option was mentioned in at least one of the other comments, which is for FIL to place the home in a trust for ownership to pass on his death to the grandchildren but with the option for the ex wife to live in the home until her death. I imagine that's what the grandchildren would want anyway assuming they have a good relationship with their mother. And during her life she should pay for the property taxes, insurance, and maintenance since she'll be the one living there.
Thankfully my parents are still married, love each other and I cannot fathom them ever divorcing. But, speaking myself as both a father and as a son, if my father was divorced from my mother and I watched him have her evicted from a house she'd lived in for decades that he didn't even pay for himself, I don't see how I could still respect him. Tell me what part of doing that isn't just blatant greed and not Christ like?
Um it was for the grandkids. Makes sense to me.
And when they evict her after Gpa dies, or Gpa has her move out, husband's adults kids will think they're the devil. She hadn't been paying upkeep, taxes, etc. wash your hands of it. Let Gpa leave the house to her, it will fall into disarray, unpd taxes and either the kids will bail her out or the county will put it up at a sheriff's sale. Not your problem- your husband's to deal with.
Grandpa should just give it to th exwife. unless she's a complete spendthrift it will wind up in his grandkids hands eventually. Or just deed it direct to the most responsible grandkid. Sounds like they are all established adults now anyway.
Pop pop was getting more than just visiting the grand kids😝
Eww no
Hey it's happened before
he's investing deep inside
@@commonsense5555 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤣🤣🤣
Lets be honest, the father in law is clappin them cheeks on them deep home inspections, he really invested deeply into her!
Very possible
Yuck 🤮
3:30 in , this whole dialogue is an ill timed trainwreck. Focus people
This brings up a question of, if you don't want to accept what is willed to you do you still have to deal with it? I think she said it was maybe in both their names in which case he would get the house by default.
As far as I know you can refuse a will. What happens to the property then I don’t know
It's a Beneficiary Deed (Transfer on Death), it avoids probate, transfer is free.
You don't want to "will" Real Estate.
Why are the kids not with their dad ..did dad walk out on the wife and kids
I sounds like she has an issue with the fact that her husband is going to have to do maintenance on his ex wifes property once his dad dies.
Deloney is like that annoying guest at a wedding that thinks he is the life of the party and interrupts to get attention, while the rest of us want him to be quiet so we can focus on the bride and groom (Dave and Caller)
No. That's rude.
Even when there's divorce you still make sure those once dependent on you are taken care of. If the dad had the money than it's great that he took care of the ex-wife.
Not Walmart with the backbone. He will probably sign the house over to her, if the husband does that. Yeah, unfortunately I’ve seen some weird stuff with people and their exes. I have some in my family. So I have seen it first hand.
What is this guy going next to Dave ?
Why not just deed it over to the husband's and his ex's children
It's a Beneficiary Deed (Transfer on Death), Avoids probate, transfer for free, Tax avoidance
Sounds like there was marriage trouble and grandad put ex wife in a house. Seems the husband is the problem..and the wife (the new one) seems to be in denial. Maybe she was the one treated well.
I love this as an option we don’t know the whole story why are they making her out to be the villain?
@@eclipse.5295 I know it's strange. I'm not married and certainly not a grandparent. But if my daughter was in an abusive relationship or my daughter in law was not being cared for I would help them. That's the only reason I would.
@@wordsalad01 I agree, I would either have the ex pay off the house and give her the deed. Or give her the home and the deed. Its grandads money and house. He can do what he wants as long as the son and new wife are not on the hook to pay anything on the home.
The new wife is just petty. I could understand if the ex was meddling in her marriage, being nasty or trashed the home.
Her husband's ex is none of her business unless she interferes
🤣 this sounds hillbilly already!!
Rental contract executed upon gpas death. as per the estate. House to a property management company. You guys cash flow. OR if she decides not to live in it. You guys can live in it for two years and sell it and keep what 200k 300k TAX FREE? Did anyone think to ask what it was worth? Never seen such lack of context and assumptions about everyone's intent....
When did this woman meet the now husband?
Marriage counselor needed asap. The FIL is forcing a long term connection that is not healthy for the current marriage. Otherwise it feels like the husband has two wife households.
Grandpa is both grandpa and father to the kids
Just chets all over the husband lol
Ummmmm I’d say let it play out and when you husband inherits the house, sell it!
I think the husband should just let his Dad think he’s going to keep taking care of the Ex then get her out once his dad is gone. I know it’s being avoidant but I wouldn’t rock the boat.