I thought this was Mariah's 'I'll be there,' but this is waaaaaaaaay better. The melody the emotion evokes here is a killer. I cud listen this all night!!!
what is your prove that shanice is more deserving to have more recognition?? .. she even have no #1 hit in billboard... .. or even 200 million sold album all over the world.. .. if she is better than mariah.. why is that many people still prefer mariah?? .. why they are not buying shanice's album?? or request her song in the radio?? .. . .. she dont even enter in Rolling Stones 100 greatest singer of all time or in MTV's 22 most beautiful voices...
Shanice was on Motown records when it was in a low period. Mariah was on Sony/Columbia when it was in one of its biggest music selling periods..that's why Shanice is not bigger.
Just because a person has a wider range does not make them a better ir skillful singer. It's about the quaulity of their skills as well as voice cintrol. Mariah has trained many vocalist that exceeds her vocal ability; however it takes nothing away from her ability to perform along with the best of them. Some of yall are wasting too much energy on TRIVIAL things.
JJ, anytime Mariah can hold that note Shanice held in Breathe again, so pwerfully strong without a weak breathy tone, I'll be happy to admit that she can hold long pwowerful notes, also Shanice has shown to be able to hold long powerful notes grom age 13!!! Check out her 'The way You love me'' Just a game and at age 15, 'The Christmas Presence.' Shnaice I believe will be showing her range more now that she is her own artist, not restricted by a label, so look out, and don't say I didn't tell ya!
The only thing I ask is that if you can put the lyrics next to your intro on the video because it is hard to find the lyrics anywhere on the net. The song is so beautiful and positive. Again, thank yuo so much.
Both Mariah and Shanice have a 5 octave voice but a great voice is not enough to make you a star you have to have the right songs and the right promotion Mariah had both and Shanice didnt and if she did she might have been a mega star in her own right but I guess will never know.
jcam bngfde it’s too bad she couldn’t have been on La Face with Babyface and LA Reid , she would have been a lot bigger bc those two men helped create some of the best R and B of the 80’s and 90’s
I am not picking on her voice today, I have always hold true that Shanice is vocally more inclined than Mariah. Even in Mariah's heydays. The fact that U quickly give into the comparison between a then 13yr Shanice to a 25yr Mariah, in itself asmits that Shanice is vocally better. Now as to who is more known is besides the point. Can U believe that today Lisa Fischer's How Can I Ease The Pain was on the radio, and someone points out that hers not as 'frightening' as Mariah. I was surprised cuz I
Which other artist U know did this song? Shanice is the only one! And don't talk about cover, becuz off the top of my head I can count 7 tracks Mariah covered an that exclude her beat samples. Shanice over her 20 yrs recording has only covered 3 tracks Lovin U, If I were Ur Woman, & Breathe Again and the 2 latter are as guest artist. So if you have concerns about cover songs u need to direct your concern to Mariah and Celine! In fact I wish Shanice would do more cover cuz she is good at it!
Its true Mariah Carey has a five octave range..but Rachelle Ferrelle has a seven octave range..and Minnie Ripperton had a 51/2 octave range..she could hit notes higher than her..and Rachelle has a low range that neither Mariah or Minnie had.
Have to agree with Seetdeh, it does sound as if you are saying Shanice is a copy cat and that's far from true. Shanice is very original. Then again, name me one singer who hasn't cover another artist's song? It's common place, the only problem would be if it was not covered properly.
You're right... Shanice put her career on hold to go to school at a time when she was growing in fame. People forget how famous she was at one time. She put her career on hold and then when she came back with When I close my eyes, it wasn't the same. Shanice IS a better vocalist than MC because she understands her voice. MC because of stretching her range to capacity does not have the same quality of voice she once did.
Shanice is known for her I luv ur Smile, cryin, Savin Foreva etc So stop frontin! cuz ur only showing evry1 U ave no credibility Wen I say Shanice is criticized dat doesn't prove ur point It means she is seen 2be vocally overcompetent so need to do material that will show how talented a singer she is I keep tellin U that Shanice is a vocal goddess but U cant understand This is what offical music critics ave seen and want of SHANICE They know Mimi's challenges so her corny pop songs are accepted!
not the whistle that made her songs #1s as the whistle was either not present or use in the background not upfront as in her song 'Bliss' or 'All in your mind' I believe 'Emotions' is the only #1 that uses whistle in an upfront way If you don't know your history you are blindly going into the future! I discovered Mariah in 1990 Shanice returned on the scene in 1991 from I came 2know Shanice I have always been convinced she is a better vocalist, so dont think my opinions are recent they r solid!
BTW have you seen the new posting of Shanice performing on Starsearch at 11yr old? I gladly placed those on the table as evidence in support of my stance! I doubt Mariah's voice was that developed even at age 15! As u'll see I deliberately chose not to comment on them to give you a chance to be fair for a change! Are that mature?
never saw that person as concern about vocals. Do u know how many times I have to be defending Mariah against peeps who said all she does is scream? If you check out most of Mariah's hit she doesn't even use the whistle and when use is in the background. Mariah like Whitney and Celine made it to the top due to STRONG backings. Remember there are others who can't sing well but just as big, so there's no proof Mariah hit #1 due to her range, it all come down to the politics of the business.
can be debated with the use of references; at the end of the day only those neutral can judge! Mariah doesn't hold any note longer than Shanice, in fact the 2 notes Mariah are thought 2 hold long are Never Too Far and We Belong Together, and for ur info those notes are studio enhanced, why U think she can't hold them long on stage, and when she tries to all her muscles tighten and she shakes as if goin to collapse! Shanice is a noted writer who writes for other singers also but u don't know dat
jjay591, take my advice and do some research before commenting on my points. YOU DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF POP MUSIC! I do and so when I write I do so authoritatively. You are hooked on Mariah, And I am hooked on MUSIC. U are aware of Mariah I am aware of MUSIC. That's the big difference with us. mARIAH HAVING 17 #1s doesn't boil down to vocal talents! U need to understand that to understand what I am saying The same way Georgia hitting a G8 dont make her a better singer than Mariah Do u Get it?
Shanice was a teenager when Mariah came as an adult. That's a big difference! Mariah was with Sony and millions were spent to concrete her status. Shanice was with Motown and I doubt they spent half of what Sony spent on Mariah. Then again the president also had eyes on Mariah, but u dont know ur history so u cant relate. In music it's not a matter of vote it's a matter of great market techniques to persuade peeps that this is the best! Shanice only cared about singin not with the business part
O MY GOD I'm dealing with a LUNATIC!!! firstly, U can't point to one Mariah video that I am on tearing her down, the most I'll do is to correct fanatics like urself who go about tearing down others cuz U think Mariah shud be the only singer arun. If U R so fair in ur comment why I don't see u accusing Mariah of ripping other artists songs when she is known for that. Shanice so far has 5 albums and only ONE cover song is evident...
she is under the MOTOWN record.. stevie w. , dianna r. , jackson 5 , boys2men ect... they are popular.. one of the big names in music industry.. .. if shanice is better than mariah,, Motown should give her a big break in her career.. compare to dianna, yes she's better singer, but why is that they didnt give her a big break,. maybe bec. they didnt see any potential in shanice's career.. or wat..
ramon, I'm shocked! I can't believe the abusive words you threw at a sweet damsel as myself? All I'm doing is speaking truth and you choose to be so cruel! Well, hear this ramon, this angel ain't too pretty to fight, so get that straight! Shanice's whistles are far better than Mimi's. Mimi whistles sound like asthmatic wheezes, very unhealthy! No wonder her voice deteriorated because she whistles using the false cord. Shanice whistles are fully connected and that's why they are strong & clear!!!
I think ur mad cuz u feel Mariah shud be the one 2 cover Minnie's Lovin' you. Cuz I can't see why U shud be so pissed over Shanice covering 3 songs, when Mariah covered way more! One thing for sure SHANICE is a talented singer who is always praised for her vocals by reviewers, the only thing Shanice is criticised for and it's for not doing material worthy of her immense talents. If Mariah had not married Motolla I doubt she wud be this big.
If you knew Shanice extensive work you would not be talking such rubbish! Shanice can whistle in the background more beautifully than mimi. In fact I've seen a video and a singer named Jean Carne does it better than Mimi! Mimi hits hers but Jean, Minnie and Shanice would sing theirs, maybe because they are better vocally trained than Mimi who incorrectly taught herself! If I love Your Smile is corny, so too is Hero, at least I love Your smile hit #1 in over 22 countries. Face it Mimi is boring!
... if she is better than mariah, why is that they didnt rival shanice to mariah,whitney and celine in 90's??? ... and why is that The Guinness Book of Records recorded that there was no other singer who could hold a higher note than Carey, if there is shanice?? ..
First u said I tear down Mariah against every artist she's put against now u changed to only Minnie Don't you think there is a reason why I write favourable for Minnie in one instance and for Mariah in a next instance? I am not like U who think that becuz I am a fan of an artist, I must at all times see them in the right That can't be I am one to admit that Mariah has a stronger voice than Minnie, but when it comes to Whistle Minnie style is more captivating.That's an opinion of mine, but...
Now JJ thou Mimi's songs r corny it doesn't mean that they r not lovely, just not in the line of a Gershwin or Bucharach. Just for the pop scene. But the facty remain Shanice is a better vocalist, and it doesn't matter what U think the fact remains, and every1 who comes across my comments on diff videos will see that my opinions are not bias. I don't know Shanice or Mariah, so I have no reason to pick one ova the other, unless facts force me to, which in this case is the reality.
I would just like to comment on the whole Mariah Shanice feud. IMO Shanice is a much better singer than Mariah and Shanice can also hit that same whistle note that Mariah does so frequently in her songs. Shanice is a much better live performer than Mariah and the only reason why Mariah has had more success than Shaice is because of the huge backing that she had from Tommy Mattotla and Sony. If Shanice would have had the same type of support and backing she would have been just as big as Mariah.
I CAN TELL that mariah is better than shanice.. but im not shanice is not a better singer ... ... it is my opinion, so, if u disagree.. i hav nothing to do,,
It is untrue also that Shanice hit the same note, I'm certain F6 G6 C7 B5 etc are all different, so that's a LIE, but i'm not surprise cause ur a liar! I don't know where u get it from that Mariah sings more genre than Shanice? Mariah sings R&B/Hiphop only! Shnice do so, but shown to be able in Rap, Neo-soul, classical, Jazz, etc, so get ur facts together. JJ, when r u gonna learn that in order to win u have to do research, that's what I do, and that's why my position is what it is!
Why do you come on Niecy's video spewing your dirt? If Shanice is a nobody why the need to 'out of the blue' compare her to your iconic mariah carey? Get a life and some sense while your at it.
Maybe if Shanice was concern about the business aspect and she and her manager (her mom) pushed the record company to market her in a specific way I have no doubt she would be as big! But as said before we measure success differently, and not becuz Mariah has 17 #1s it doesn't make her better, likewise not becuz Georgia hit G8 makes her better. You need to learn to look at pure vocals 2 C what i'm sayin not fame Both celine and Whitney are major acts yet I can say Whitney is better vocally...
Get over urself Shanice is better vocalist than Mariah, in an out of the studio. The only thing Mariah does well these days and that singing in chest voice and whistling, her midrange is waaay off! Shanice still got it cuz she was trained correctly! So leave Shanice alone and stop spreading lies that she's a ripoff - U seem to be a dunce person!
JJ, anytime Mariah can hold that note Shanice held in Breathe again, so pwerfully strong without a weak breathy tone, I'll be happy to admit that she can hold long pwowerful notes, also Shanice has shown to be able to hold long powerful notes grom age 13!!! Check out her 'The way You love me'' Just a game and at age 15, 'The Christmas Presence.' Shnaice I believe will be showing her range more now that she is her own artist, not restricted by a label, so look out, and don't say I didn't tell ya!
I have been looking for this song forever. I LOVE THIS SONG. This is a great song.
U make my day, night, LIFE! It's good to meet someone who actually knows about talent and expressed oneself so clearly. Ur comments are a keep.
i love both mariah and shanice.peace
I think shanice and mariah are geat singers, no need to compare them, they both have there own music and voices... the Queens.
I thought this was Mariah's 'I'll be there,' but this is waaaaaaaaay better. The melody the emotion evokes here is a killer. I cud listen this all night!!!
I love this song
90's classic
This song appears on her 1994 album '21 Ways To Grow'.
Tim & Bob production !
Sounds Better Than Most Out Of The So Called R&B Being Played On The Radio Today
ANYTHING the 90s produced it'll sound infinitely better than today!
Preach...
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not only mariah fans, but the people who inspired by her voice and music..
Classic
what is your prove that shanice is more deserving to have more recognition??
.. she even have no #1 hit in billboard...
.. or even 200 million sold album all over the world..
.. if she is better than mariah.. why is that many people still prefer mariah?? .. why they are not buying shanice's album?? or request her song in the radio?? .. .
.. she dont even enter in Rolling Stones 100 greatest singer of all time or in MTV's 22 most beautiful voices...
Shanice was on Motown records when it was in a low period. Mariah was on Sony/Columbia when it was in one of its biggest music selling periods..that's why Shanice is not bigger.
Just because a person has a wider range does not make them a better ir skillful singer. It's about the quaulity of their skills as well as voice cintrol. Mariah has trained many vocalist that exceeds her vocal ability; however it takes nothing away from her ability to perform along with the best of them. Some of yall are wasting too much energy on TRIVIAL things.
Amazing/
JJ, anytime Mariah can hold that note Shanice held in Breathe again, so pwerfully strong without a weak breathy tone, I'll be happy to admit that she can hold long pwowerful notes, also Shanice has shown to be able to hold long powerful notes grom age 13!!! Check out her 'The way You love me'' Just a game and at age 15, 'The Christmas Presence.' Shnaice I believe will be showing her range more now that she is her own artist, not restricted by a label, so look out, and don't say I didn't tell ya!
this is about shanice so why waste time talking about mariah carey who cares this is shanices song
The only thing I ask is that if you can put the lyrics next to your intro on the video because it is hard to find the lyrics anywhere on the net. The song is so beautiful and positive. Again, thank yuo so much.
@armanisilk Quit hatin' on Shanice, she can sing her ass off!!!!!!!!!
This is from the 90's lol!
Great artistic
Pretty song... song by a pretty girl she reminds me of myself so much with her looks and that killa smile just like mine.
-Barbie Babe
I think that might be the look lil kim was going for
She is beautiful and so is her voice
Both Mariah and Shanice have a 5 octave voice but a great voice is not enough to make you a star you have to have the right songs and the right promotion Mariah had both and Shanice didnt and if she did she might have been a mega star in her own right but I guess will never know.
jcam bngfde it’s too bad she couldn’t have been on La Face with Babyface and LA Reid , she would have been a lot bigger bc those two men helped create some of the best R and B of the 80’s and 90’s
I am not picking on her voice today, I have always hold true that Shanice is vocally more inclined than Mariah. Even in Mariah's heydays. The fact that U quickly give into the comparison between a then 13yr Shanice to a 25yr Mariah, in itself asmits that Shanice is vocally better. Now as to who is more known is besides the point. Can U believe that today Lisa Fischer's How Can I Ease The Pain was on the radio, and someone points out that hers not as 'frightening' as Mariah. I was surprised cuz I
Which other artist U know did this song? Shanice is the only one! And don't talk about cover, becuz off the top of my head I can count 7 tracks Mariah covered an that exclude her beat samples. Shanice over her 20 yrs recording has only covered 3 tracks Lovin U, If I were Ur Woman, & Breathe Again and the 2 latter are as guest artist. So if you have concerns about cover songs u need to direct your concern to Mariah and Celine! In fact I wish Shanice would do more cover cuz she is good at it!
Its true Mariah Carey has a five octave range..but Rachelle Ferrelle has a seven octave range..and Minnie Ripperton had a 51/2 octave range..she could hit notes higher than her..and Rachelle has a low range that neither Mariah or Minnie had.
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Envious? Do you see me on your iconic mariah carey video? Do close the door on your way out.
Have to agree with Seetdeh, it does sound as if you are saying Shanice is a copy cat and that's far from true. Shanice is very original. Then again, name me one singer who hasn't cover another artist's song? It's common place, the only problem would be if it was not covered properly.
You're right...
Shanice put her career on hold to go to school at a time when she was growing in fame. People forget how famous she was at one time. She put her career on hold and then when she came back with When I close my eyes, it wasn't the same. Shanice IS a better vocalist than MC because she understands her voice. MC because of stretching her range to capacity does not have the same quality of voice she once did.
Shanice is known for her I luv ur Smile, cryin, Savin Foreva etc So stop frontin! cuz ur only showing evry1 U ave no credibility Wen I say Shanice is criticized dat doesn't prove ur point It means she is seen 2be vocally overcompetent so need to do material that will show how talented a singer she is I keep tellin U that Shanice is a vocal goddess but U cant understand This is what offical music critics ave seen and want of SHANICE They know Mimi's challenges so her corny pop songs are accepted!
not the whistle that made her songs #1s as the whistle was either not present or use in the background not upfront as in her song 'Bliss' or 'All in your mind' I believe 'Emotions' is the only #1 that uses whistle in an upfront way If you don't know your history you are blindly going into the future! I discovered Mariah in 1990 Shanice returned on the scene in 1991 from I came 2know Shanice I have always been convinced she is a better vocalist, so dont think my opinions are recent they r solid!
BTW have you seen the new posting of Shanice performing on Starsearch at 11yr old? I gladly placed those on the table as evidence in support of my stance! I doubt Mariah's voice was that developed even at age 15! As u'll see I deliberately chose not to comment on them to give you a chance to be fair for a change! Are that mature?
never saw that person as concern about vocals. Do u know how many times I have to be defending Mariah against peeps who said all she does is scream? If you check out most of Mariah's hit she doesn't even use the whistle and when use is in the background. Mariah like Whitney and Celine made it to the top due to STRONG backings. Remember there are others who can't sing well but just as big, so there's no proof Mariah hit #1 due to her range, it all come down to the politics of the business.
@armanisilk I disagree . I don`t think you have heard her lately.
can be debated with the use of references; at the end of the day only those neutral can judge! Mariah doesn't hold any note longer than Shanice, in fact the 2 notes Mariah are thought 2 hold long are Never Too Far and We Belong Together, and for ur info those notes are studio enhanced, why U think she can't hold them long on stage, and when she tries to all her muscles tighten and she shakes as if goin to collapse! Shanice is a noted writer who writes for other singers also but u don't know dat
Ooooooo, internet argument!!!
jjay591, take my advice and do some research before commenting on my points. YOU DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF POP MUSIC! I do and so when I write I do so authoritatively. You are hooked on Mariah, And I am hooked on MUSIC. U are aware of Mariah I am aware of MUSIC. That's the big difference with us. mARIAH HAVING 17 #1s doesn't boil down to vocal talents! U need to understand that to understand what I am saying The same way Georgia hitting a G8 dont make her a better singer than Mariah Do u Get it?
Shanice was a teenager when Mariah came as an adult. That's a big difference! Mariah was with Sony and millions were spent to concrete her status. Shanice was with Motown and I doubt they spent half of what Sony spent on Mariah. Then again the president also had eyes on Mariah, but u dont know ur history so u cant relate. In music it's not a matter of vote it's a matter of great market techniques to persuade peeps that this is the best! Shanice only cared about singin not with the business part
O MY GOD I'm dealing with a LUNATIC!!! firstly, U can't point to one Mariah video that I am on tearing her down, the most I'll do is to correct fanatics like urself who go about tearing down others cuz U think Mariah shud be the only singer arun. If U R so fair in ur comment why I don't see u accusing Mariah of ripping other artists songs when she is known for that. Shanice so far has 5 albums and only ONE cover song is evident...
she is under the MOTOWN record.. stevie w. , dianna r. , jackson 5 , boys2men ect... they are popular.. one of the big names in music industry..
.. if shanice is better than mariah,, Motown should give her a big break in her career.. compare to dianna, yes she's better singer, but why is that they didnt give her a big break,. maybe bec. they didnt see any potential in shanice's career.. or wat..
ramon, I'm shocked! I can't believe the abusive words you threw at a sweet damsel as myself? All I'm doing is speaking truth and you choose to be so cruel! Well, hear this ramon, this angel ain't too pretty to fight, so get that straight! Shanice's whistles are far better than Mimi's. Mimi whistles sound like asthmatic wheezes, very unhealthy! No wonder her voice deteriorated because she whistles using the false cord. Shanice whistles are fully connected and that's why they are strong & clear!!!
I think ur mad cuz u feel Mariah shud be the one 2 cover Minnie's Lovin' you. Cuz I can't see why U shud be so pissed over Shanice covering 3 songs, when Mariah covered way more! One thing for sure SHANICE is a talented singer who is always praised for her vocals by reviewers, the only thing Shanice is criticised for and it's for not doing material worthy of her immense talents. If Mariah had not married Motolla I doubt she wud be this big.
If you knew Shanice extensive work you would not be talking such rubbish! Shanice can whistle in the background more beautifully than mimi. In fact I've seen a video and a singer named Jean Carne does it better than Mimi! Mimi hits hers but Jean, Minnie and Shanice would sing theirs, maybe because they are better vocally trained than Mimi who incorrectly taught herself! If I love Your Smile is corny, so too is Hero, at least I love Your smile hit #1 in over 22 countries. Face it Mimi is boring!
... if she is better than mariah, why is that they didnt rival shanice to mariah,whitney and celine in 90's??? ...
and why is that The Guinness Book of Records recorded that there was no other singer who could hold a higher note than Carey, if there is shanice?? ..
First u said I tear down Mariah against every artist she's put against now u changed to only Minnie Don't you think there is a reason why I write favourable for Minnie in one instance and for Mariah in a next instance? I am not like U who think that becuz I am a fan of an artist, I must at all times see them in the right That can't be I am one to admit that Mariah has a stronger voice than Minnie, but when it comes to Whistle Minnie style is more captivating.That's an opinion of mine, but...
Now JJ thou Mimi's songs r corny it doesn't mean that they r not lovely, just not in the line of a Gershwin or Bucharach. Just for the pop scene. But the facty remain Shanice is a better vocalist, and it doesn't matter what U think the fact remains, and every1 who comes across my comments on diff videos will see that my opinions are not bias. I don't know Shanice or Mariah, so I have no reason to pick one ova the other, unless facts force me to, which in this case is the reality.
I would just like to comment on the whole Mariah Shanice feud. IMO Shanice is a much better singer than Mariah and Shanice can also hit that same whistle note that Mariah does so frequently in her songs. Shanice is a much better live performer than Mariah and the only reason why Mariah has had more success than Shaice is because of the huge backing that she had from Tommy Mattotla and Sony. If Shanice would have had the same type of support and backing she would have been just as big as Mariah.
I CAN TELL that mariah is better than shanice.. but im not shanice is not a better singer ...
... it is my opinion, so, if u disagree.. i hav nothing to do,,
It is untrue also that Shanice hit the same note, I'm certain F6 G6 C7 B5 etc are all different, so that's a LIE, but i'm not surprise cause ur a liar! I don't know where u get it from that Mariah sings more genre than Shanice? Mariah sings R&B/Hiphop only! Shnice do so, but shown to be able in Rap, Neo-soul, classical, Jazz, etc, so get ur facts together. JJ, when r u gonna learn that in order to win u have to do research, that's what I do, and that's why my position is what it is!
Why do you come on Niecy's video spewing your dirt? If Shanice is a nobody why the need to 'out of the blue' compare her to your iconic mariah carey? Get a life and some sense while your at it.
Maybe if Shanice was concern about the business aspect and she and her manager (her mom) pushed the record company to market her in a specific way I have no doubt she would be as big! But as said before we measure success differently, and not becuz Mariah has 17 #1s it doesn't make her better, likewise not becuz Georgia hit G8 makes her better. You need to learn to look at pure vocals 2 C what i'm sayin not fame Both celine and Whitney are major acts yet I can say Whitney is better vocally...
Get over urself Shanice is better vocalist than Mariah, in an out of the studio. The only thing Mariah does well these days and that singing in chest voice and whistling, her midrange is waaay off! Shanice still got it cuz she was trained correctly! So leave Shanice alone and stop spreading lies that she's a ripoff - U seem to be a dunce person!
she has never been a power singer just a screamer lol
JJ, anytime Mariah can hold that note Shanice held in Breathe again, so pwerfully strong without a weak breathy tone, I'll be happy to admit that she can hold long pwowerful notes, also Shanice has shown to be able to hold long powerful notes grom age 13!!! Check out her 'The way You love me'' Just a game and at age 15, 'The Christmas Presence.' Shnaice I believe will be showing her range more now that she is her own artist, not restricted by a label, so look out, and don't say I didn't tell ya!