Hi Robert! My set screw worked its way out - fixed it after watching your video, thanks for saving me a lot of time! Got to reposition the lever so I didn’t hit my hand on the pillar attachment every time too haha Thanks for taking the time to film and upload!
Mine had the same problem, even after I shortened the grub screw, albeit at a lower position. Upon further inspection, I noticed that the rack was rubbing against the body because the body notch wasn't deep enough. I used a file to deepen the notch by just under 1mm and the movement is now silky smooth all the way. These issues aside, it's a remarkably solid stand and I actually enjoyed the small project of fixing it.
At the point where you want to reposition the lever (15:45 approx. at your -grate- video), just unscrew the little black screw at the back side of the base of the lever (which tights the lever and fixes its position). That will give space to the base of the lever to move (you can now pull it a bit further from the gear and reposition it to the desired place, then tighten the little black screw again and finish. 😊 nice job by the way!! I just bought one myself! Thanks a lot for the information.
I just purchased an MB-200 (received it a couple of days ago), and mine does not have the set screw problem - it looks like they've corrected the issue now (perhaps they ran out of the too-long screws :D). Absolutely nothing on mine was lubricated, however, so I took it apart to grease the cogs. Thanks for the useful videos!
Thanks for this Robert. Yes I tend to agree. The tools are beautifully made but the 'peripherals" as it were are of a much poorer quality. The screw on my MS4 machine vice is very sticky and it and other items seem to have lots of 'play' in them which is a shame. BTW some may find the video too long but the 'slow TV' style can be quite calming - I repaired an item on my desk whilst watching and listening so two jobs done at once!
You're welcome! Interestingly I just bought a 100mm jaw machine vise - and I decided not to go with a Proxxon, but a Röhm ( ruclips.net/video/EdMW0VKb550/видео.html ). Still not perfect, but a lot more meat/precision compared to the Proxxon, and going for 65€ it's even cheaper. BTW my videos are a bit faster paced nowadays 😉 Hope that doesn't spoil it for you 😅
I had the same problem with mine, though my solution was quite a little different: Since you are able to roll it without intersecting with the screw, i just drilled another hole for the lever in a position where it does actually work. But your solution is a litte easier to reproduce :D Bonus in my solution: You can add a second lever now
I like your solution. Especially the option to add a second lever ... or a third ... now I can see the thing with three levers at 120° positions like a big drill press in my mind ;-)
@@robertssmorgasbord I got it about 3yrs ago. Since it had a spring pin which had broke in half trying to unjam it, I was able to get it out and tapped it with 3mm set screw making sure that it was below the gear teeth, then relubed it. It works ok now.
@@crumblenaut9776 Wow! So Proxxon has now quality problems with the BFB 2000 too? It was my impression that they're manufacturing the cheap stuff (MB 200, MB 140) in Asia for some time now, and that the quality of those items has suffered because of that. Well, I guess the BFB 2000 for "just" 150 bucks is "cheap stuff" for them too :-( I'm kinda glad I bought mine used: ruclips.net/video/AKdBRVT9RWs/видео.html
@@robertssmorgasbord After looking at your used machine, it seems a bit different than mine. The motor on mine has a chuck that goes to 13mm and the speed control is on the motor, the XY base didn't come with any locking knobs at all and the power unit is just a fuse with a reset button on it. If I could go back in the past I'd get this.... www.wabeco-remscheid.de/ stand instead but it won't do angled drilling though it is versatile in other ways. The price is reasonable for what it can do but I wonder if it's really made in Germany.
@@crumblenaut9776 Yes, the old Proxxon stuff is a little bit different - and in some cases definitely better - than the new. That's why I started buying old, used Proxxon tools. BTW their electric tools, like the IBS/E are at least still made in the EU, not Asia. Wabeco is definitely manufacturing in Germany - it's their selling point. If I ever come around buying a small lathe it would be a Wabeco, or an old, used Proxxon ;-) However, the Wabeco's start at 2400€ :-( Anyway, here's a used Proxxon drill press from 1990 I bought a while ago: ruclips.net/video/obS-vF5QZeE/видео.html
@@robertssmorgasbord That's why after long cosiderations I have finally decided to take a chance with a Chinese version of this stand called BG-6117 (by Beking Tools Co.). At least that stand is less than a half of the Proxxon's price. Just ordered one today.
@@IliyaOsnovikov The BG-6117 looks like a nice little drill stand - if you want a 40mm collar for your drill. Remember, the MB 200 has a 20mm collar. Anyway, the MB 200 is about 75€ here in Germany. The BG-6117 is sold for 20€ on AliExpress and for 90€ on Banggood?!? Good luck with your buy and let me know how the BG-6117 turns out.
@@robertssmorgasbord I've seen some 43/20mm adapters for sale. One is called "Alu Proxxon Adapter 43/20 mm 240/E, IBS/E, 230/E, FBS/E s. Beschreibung" and is sold now on eBay for 12.98€. But I am most likely going to order one from a friend of a friend in a local machine shop.
I'm wondering if this thing is small enough to be a (semi)permanent fixture on my desk. Can I request you to tell me exactly how tall the pillar is? And confirm if the base is 22x12cm? Thanks.
I have no idea. There is no "Made in ..." label on the carton it came in or on the drill stand itself. Since Proxxon puts "Made in EU" labels on their electric tools I have to assume that these drill stands are not made in the EU. My best guess is Chine ;-)
Just bought a Proxxon TBM 220 bench drill press and it actually is missing parts (lower housing cover). It's mainly cosmetic, but still kind of bad shipping incomplete units.
Wow, now they are omitting whole parts! Well, as long as it's working flawlessly you're well off I guess. Anyway, I'm getting more and more the impression that these things are assembled in some Chinese backyard ("We're out of lower housing covers boss." - "Who cares? Just send them out without them!").
@@robertssmorgasbord I think it's down to lacking in QC. But that is probably due to 'made in China'. I like that they are affordable, but I think they'll be in trouble if they can't be better than other cheaper options.
@@crowsinthenose Exactly my thoughts! Proxxon outsourced the production to China (or somewhere else in Asia) - which is totally legitimate. But then they "forgot" (to save even more money) to send an engineer from Germany down there now and then to see if everything is up too par.
Just wanted to add, that I sent an inquiry to Proxxon and they were very quick in sending me the missing parts. So, at the very least their customer service is excellent (and I must say I pretty happy with the drill press now also).
I (mostly) agree. Watching my videos from 2 or more years ago now, I often find them too lengthy too. Regarding the boilerplate stuff: One person's boilerplate stuff is another person's valuable information 😉
Hi Robert! My set screw worked its way out - fixed it after watching your video, thanks for saving me a lot of time! Got to reposition the lever so I didn’t hit my hand on the pillar attachment every time too haha
Thanks for taking the time to film and upload!
Hi Craig! I'm happy my video was helpful for you. Funnily enough I've also adjusted the angle of the lever to my needs when I tool that thing apart 😄
Mine had the same problem, even after I shortened the grub screw, albeit at a lower position. Upon further inspection, I noticed that the rack was rubbing against the body because the body notch wasn't deep enough. I used a file to deepen the notch by just under 1mm and the movement is now silky smooth all the way. These issues aside, it's a remarkably solid stand and I actually enjoyed the small project of fixing it.
Yeah, Proxxon definitely has a quality issue with these drill stands. A shame, really, 'cause Proxxon once made high quality stuff.
At the point where you want to reposition the lever (15:45 approx. at your -grate- video), just unscrew the little black screw at the back side of the base of the lever (which tights the lever and fixes its position). That will give space to the base of the lever to move (you can now pull it a bit further from the gear and reposition it to the desired place, then tighten the little black screw again and finish. 😊 nice job by the way!! I just bought one myself! Thanks a lot for the information.
I thank you for the tip! And of course thanks for the praise 🙂
I just purchased an MB-200 (received it a couple of days ago), and mine does not have the set screw problem - it looks like they've corrected the issue now (perhaps they ran out of the too-long screws :D). Absolutely nothing on mine was lubricated, however, so I took it apart to grease the cogs. Thanks for the useful videos!
You're welcome! And yes, they probably ran out of the oversized set screws ;-)
Thanks for this Robert. Yes I tend to agree. The tools are beautifully made but the 'peripherals" as it were are of a much poorer quality. The screw on my MS4 machine vice is very sticky and it and other items seem to have lots of 'play' in them which is a shame. BTW some may find the video too long but the 'slow TV' style can be quite calming - I repaired an item on my desk whilst watching and listening so two jobs done at once!
You're welcome! Interestingly I just bought a 100mm jaw machine vise - and I decided not to go with a Proxxon, but a Röhm ( ruclips.net/video/EdMW0VKb550/видео.html ). Still not perfect, but a lot more meat/precision compared to the Proxxon, and going for 65€ it's even cheaper. BTW my videos are a bit faster paced nowadays 😉 Hope that doesn't spoil it for you 😅
I had the same problem with mine, though my solution was quite a little different:
Since you are able to roll it without intersecting with the screw, i just drilled another hole for the lever in a position where it does actually work. But your solution is a litte easier to reproduce :D
Bonus in my solution: You can add a second lever now
I like your solution. Especially the option to add a second lever ... or a third ... now I can see the thing with three levers at 120° positions like a big drill press in my mind ;-)
Same problem with my BFB 2000, except the BFB 2000 has a spring pin instead of a set screw. Thank you for the guide on getting access to the problem.
First, you're welcome! Second: Same problem with a BFB 2000?!? Is it a new one? When did you buy it?
@@robertssmorgasbord I got it about 3yrs ago. Since it had a spring pin which had broke in half trying to unjam it, I was able to get it out and tapped it with 3mm set screw making sure that it was below the gear teeth, then relubed it. It works ok now.
@@crumblenaut9776 Wow! So Proxxon has now quality problems with the BFB 2000 too? It was my impression that they're manufacturing the cheap stuff (MB 200, MB 140) in Asia for some time now, and that the quality of those items has suffered because of that. Well, I guess the BFB 2000 for "just" 150 bucks is "cheap stuff" for them too :-( I'm kinda glad I bought mine used: ruclips.net/video/AKdBRVT9RWs/видео.html
@@robertssmorgasbord After looking at your used machine, it seems a bit different than mine. The motor on mine has a chuck that goes to 13mm and the speed control is on the motor, the XY base didn't come with any locking knobs at all and the power unit is just a fuse with a reset button on it. If I could go back in the past I'd get this.... www.wabeco-remscheid.de/
stand instead but it won't do angled drilling though it is versatile in other ways. The price is reasonable for what it can do but I wonder if it's really made in Germany.
@@crumblenaut9776 Yes, the old Proxxon stuff is a little bit different - and in some cases definitely better - than the new. That's why I started buying old, used Proxxon tools. BTW their electric tools, like the IBS/E are at least still made in the EU, not Asia. Wabeco is definitely manufacturing in Germany - it's their selling point. If I ever come around buying a small lathe it would be a Wabeco, or an old, used Proxxon ;-) However, the Wabeco's start at 2400€ :-( Anyway, here's a used Proxxon drill press from 1990 I bought a while ago: ruclips.net/video/obS-vF5QZeE/видео.html
Apparently, Proxxon made one of the set screw holes on the wrong side.
Yes, they did that too :-) The manufacturing of that thing is so bad, it's almost funny.
@@robertssmorgasbord That's why after long cosiderations I have finally decided to take a chance with a Chinese version of this stand called BG-6117 (by Beking Tools Co.).
At least that stand is less than a half of the Proxxon's price. Just ordered one today.
@@IliyaOsnovikov The BG-6117 looks like a nice little drill stand - if you want a 40mm collar for your drill. Remember, the MB 200 has a 20mm collar. Anyway, the MB 200 is about 75€ here in Germany. The BG-6117 is sold for 20€ on AliExpress and for 90€ on Banggood?!? Good luck with your buy and let me know how the BG-6117 turns out.
@@robertssmorgasbord I've seen some 43/20mm adapters for sale. One is called "Alu Proxxon Adapter 43/20 mm 240/E, IBS/E, 230/E, FBS/E s. Beschreibung" and is sold now on eBay for 12.98€. But I am most likely going to order one from a friend of a friend in a local machine shop.
@@IliyaOsnovikov Thanks for the info! I found that adapter on eBay and saved the link :-)
I had the same issue (but worse). Thanks!
You're welcome! I really wonder if there's anybody out there who bought one that worked out of the box ;-)
I'm wondering if this thing is small enough to be a (semi)permanent fixture on my desk.
Can I request you to tell me exactly how tall the pillar is? And confirm if the base is 22x12cm?
Thanks.
The base is 22.5x12cm and the total height with the pillar it's 30cm.
Was that actually made in Austria?
I have no idea. There is no "Made in ..." label on the carton it came in or on the drill stand itself. Since Proxxon puts "Made in EU" labels on their electric tools I have to assume that these drill stands are not made in the EU. My best guess is Chine ;-)
Just bought a Proxxon TBM 220 bench drill press and it actually is missing parts (lower housing cover). It's mainly cosmetic, but still kind of bad shipping incomplete units.
Wow, now they are omitting whole parts! Well, as long as it's working flawlessly you're well off I guess. Anyway, I'm getting more and more the impression that these things are assembled in some Chinese backyard ("We're out of lower housing covers boss." - "Who cares? Just send them out without them!").
@@robertssmorgasbord I think it's down to lacking in QC. But that is probably due to 'made in China'.
I like that they are affordable, but I think they'll be in trouble if they can't be better than other cheaper options.
@@crowsinthenose Exactly my thoughts! Proxxon outsourced the production to China (or somewhere else in Asia) - which is totally legitimate. But then they "forgot" (to save even more money) to send an engineer from Germany down there now and then to see if everything is up too par.
Just wanted to add, that I sent an inquiry to Proxxon and they were very quick in sending me the missing parts. So, at the very least their customer service is excellent (and I must say I pretty happy with the drill press now also).
@@crowsinthenose That's what I'm hearing too (I don't have any first hand experience yet). Have fun with your drill stand!
The video definitely needs some post-processing. It is way too lengthy, not getting to the point and showing too much boilerplate stuff.
I (mostly) agree. Watching my videos from 2 or more years ago now, I often find them too lengthy too. Regarding the boilerplate stuff: One person's boilerplate stuff is another person's valuable information 😉