I don't think the system works - Anakin's Critique of Democracy
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2024
- Anakin offers a very brief and incredibly high-level critique of democracy, all while sadly glossing over some of the nuances.
If you like the work I do, why not use the force to influnce your dollars to become my dollars?: / sealsaregood
The voices are AI generated, heavily edited by me to make them sound how I envision them.
The images are taken from Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones with captions added on them using ImgFlip.
The script was written by me, the editing of the video was likewise done by me.
Sources, because this basically turned into a mini video essay and I don't want hbomberguy coming for me, are as follows:
Philosophers named:
Shue'nery'he = Henry Shue
Thom Ashobbes = Thomas Hobbes
Pla-Ato = Plato
Locka = John Locke
Isaibelin = Isaiah Berlin
Daaved Hu'Ume = David Hume
Mitth'raw'nuruodo = Thrawn
Sources used:
Core Text - Western Philosophy - An Anthology - Third Edition Cottingham [2021]
Plato. The Republic Book 6: www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/...
Thomas Hobbes. Leviathan: socialsciences.mcmaster.ca/ec...
John Locke: Political Philosophy: iep.utm.edu/locke-po/
Contemporary Contractarian Moral Theory - Geoffrey Sayre-McCor: philosophy.unc.edu/wp-content...
Two concepts of freedom Author unknown: www.open.edu/openlearn/mod/ou...
I swear I used this site for research, but now it won't let me access it, but I swear I'm not crazy: plato.stanford.edu/entries/li...
Radkiewicz, P. [2021] How do authoritarians experience freedom? Absolute and conditional freedom as different predictors of the authoritarian worldview: www.sciencedirect.com/science...
Tutor2u [2020] Negative & Positive Freedom (Liberalism): www.tutor2u.net/politics/refe...
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Wikipedia [No date given] Negative and Positive rights: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativ... 
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Happy Star Wars Day!
I hope you're celebrating the franchise that bequeathed the majesty of General Grievous unto us, as well as (probably) other characters, with the gravitas it deserves.
Fun Fact: I died several times while working on this, but it turns out my purgatory is actually making meme videos.
Edit: People keep bringing it up, and it wouldn't bother me if they were correct, but they're not. Anakin stating: "The rumblings of a Civil War, fermented by planets attempting to freely leave the Republic..." is a perfectly valid use of the term "fermented" in the figurative sense as noted in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary (linked below.)
Fomented would also be valid, but is not necessarily the term which should replace fermented here.
www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/ferment-vs-foment-usage-difference
Happy Star Wars day
how did you gain such incite on the flaws of the republic and on democracy as a whole to be able to write such a well thought out critique? don't tell me the jedi paid for your schooling too!
@@bobthespud9634 for a mere 100,000 credits per term!
@@sealsaregood5146 lol, but now I'm curious, did you have to do research or did you just write whatever came to mind?
@@bobthespud9634 you've never been forced to take a Critical Thinking class, have you?
I love this Anakin being the smartest and dumbest person in the room simultanously. Truly a fascinating dichotomy.
Isn't that the exact opposite of dichotomy?
I think he was only playing dumb this time. Notice how he "suddenly" with no prompting "understood" what she meant by "retiring" to the bedroom
@@cyberninjazero5659 *High IQ rizzling process*
he's very intelligent, but also very unwise.
@@hessidave I'd argue it could be considered dichotomic since being smart and dumb, while also being polar opposites, are both states of Anakins being.
I love how the joke starts with Padme being down bad for Anikin as he ignores her to rant but shifts into her actually enjoying the discussion and it turning into a common ground for both of them that leads to them falling in love. It presents an interesting dichotomy between the viewer's expectation of what the typical set up and joke would be and instead plays up Padme's own focus and interest in politics and debate.
*But did ever studied on school about the hutt thinker John Locka, that is something the state hides from you and never teaches about in the current education system*
interesting dichotomy indeed
That's what I been saying. She actually started putting in counterpoints to his unknowing slippery slope.That's why I want a whole video of them doing a back in forth.
Shut up! SHUT UP! I will grant you a like here and fckn now if you never mention your thesis again!
I love how he portrayed Padme here. weirdly lore Accurate, somehow an engaging character, funny af, and great anti-anakin (was gonna say anti-hero but that's not exactly true)
"The Jedi never taught me how to respond to positive feedback," might be the most true line ever spoken in Star Wars
“A skill issue, slavery is.”
“Only alimony and child support, do women want.”
-Master Yoda
Child support is obviously a skill issue with ones pullout. An interesting dichotomy of Yoda both deriding skill issues, but having them himself.
"A sofa on you, I will throw now"
"Hoes and tricks, bitches ain't nothing but."
-MC Yoda
"MIGTOW for life, I am"
"Sigma grindset, I must."
My man Anakin is pursuing both a PhD in Sith literature and a PhD in Galactic Political Sciences, what an academical genius !
He already has a PHD in Sith literature. Haven't you heard of his thesis on Darth Plagueis the Wise? It's about a tale the Jedi told him
@@samsibbens8164 I wanted to read the thesis, but unfortunatly master Shaak ti who was supposed to introduce me to it died under mysterious circumstances
@@samsibbens8164Uhm, ackshually.
This is technically episode 2 Anakin, and he clearly did his thesis defense during episode 3, so at the moment, he’s still a couple years away from getting his PhD
@@JM-mh1ppbut that was in a deleted scene so it might not be canon
this is undergraduate level GPS at best
Padmé's rizz... imagine flirting with the galaxy's most oblivious and single-minded man while he's explaining the thesis he's obsessed with and it actually works
He's not oblivious he got the hints from the start, notice how he 'suddenly' with no prompting understood what she meant by 'retiring to her room' at the end. He was just rejecting her until she proved herself intellectually
@@cyberninjazero5659she was drenched by the end
This is the power of autism.
@@cyberninjazero5659 man has standards fr
@@cyberninjazero5659 are you, perhaps, familiar with the concept of sapiosexuality? It is a poststructural sexual identity, often placed under the umbrella of the larger spectrum of asexuality, wherein it is not the physical appearance of others that provokes arousal in the individual, but rather displays of elevated cognitive capacity, such as depth of knowledge on obscure topics, debate proficiency , philosophy, media literacy or even emotional intelligence, this scenario is a perfect case study for such phenomenon:
As other commenter supramentioned already, Anakin did listen to Padme's initial advances, but preferred to ignore them as to ensure he could deliver a brief and concise overview on the current state of the Republic's system of governance, Padme's appearance obviously not being an offer enticing enough on its own to overcome Anakin's intelectual pursuits, however through his exposition, Padmé constantly engaged with him, showing both that she was able to understand the thematic at hand, but that she was an active listener caring deeply for what he had to say; and finally after he was done with his brief posturing on the pillars of good governance, Padmé continues the conversation by offering not only a competing view point, but one that she can match Anakin's own in therms of academic rigidity, thus showing her capable of forming her own opinions in a passionate yet eloquent fashion,
Thus enticing Anakin's desire for intimacy and therefore, making him reevaluate the previously ignored advances by padme, the invitation to join her in her chambers more alluring this time.
"Peace, Freedom, Justice, Security" being planted so far into the video was just masterful.
Agreed
To say nothing of the fact that they sound like perfectly natural things that someone wanting a good government would want. Therefore, creating a natural sounding conversation, minus the silly tangents.
SKYWALKER CORE FOUR
It's genuinely great how careful you are to ensure that no matter how far this drifts from the canon material, it's still Anakin and he's still arriving at the same conclusions as the movies proper. Incredibly skilled writing on display.
Yeah, it's not Anakin with a different personality, just Anakin who expresses his personality in a slightly different way.
@@lordbuss In this series, Anakin isn't socially awkward, he's awkwardly social!
Pretty good writing all things considered.
@@CalvinNoire He was awkwardly social in the original too.
Did Anakin just advocate for an enlightened dictatorship?! That's something only a Sith lord would approve of...
@@cantthinkofaname321 Plato sith lord confirmed.
Anakin's actual good criticisms of the republic being broken up by him saying shit like fingies and yoda being a mgtow make this a fucking masterpiece
Yep. From now on, the reason Jedi have a vow of celibacy in The Prequels is because Yoda had a bad experience with Yaddle and became mgtow.
-> "Sued me for more than half of my galactic credits, she has!"
That's why Yaddle left. Grandmaster Yodas misogyny
I love the idea that Jedi used to be pretty open about relationships but Yoda had a bad divorce 800 years ago and through a slow influence he managed to turn the entire order, like you know. a slight change to the text here, mistranslation there, guy trained generations of jedi, it shows the true power of a nearly immortal teacher
‘And then he threw a sofa at me’
@@JM-mh1ppOh man, that would be hilarious. I remember that was totally a thing in some Old Republix stuff, Jedi being openly married, hsving kids, being allowed to train multiple Padawans at the same time. It would be darkly comical and yet make so much sense if that was the real reason why The Jedi Order moved away from that.
'Nobody's ever engaged with my hypothetical before*falls in love*' an accurate depiction of male philosophy students having their first conversation with a girl on their course
Lol facts
Yes, I does happen
Sometime I go on a rant about Hobbs, Machiavelli and Rousseau to explain the duties and origins of governance and power through the theories of social contract to people whose only crime was to be there to listen
This was extremely relatable to me
When she responds to your Latin in Greek:
Oh my god, this so much
@@clementbianchini8651I'd have a hard time to put Machiavelli in there.😅
"He could easily end up falling down a seemingly bottomless pit, or being struck by lightning. What then?" fuckin killed me
I love that Anakin's citations are a mix of real life figures with star wars-ified names and actual characters from star wars lore.
Thom Ashobbes and his book The Zillo beast went over my head when I was in high school
I love the fact Anakin doesn't care about Padme's flirting. His one true love is dichotomy.
Right up until he realizes he's found someone who'll listen to him talk about dichotomy in bed.
@@darthralin putting the dick in dichotomy
@@darthralin
After all, the sword and sheath was man's first introduction to dichotomy, even as they were too undeveloped to understand.
He didn't until he found out they were kindred spirits and he grew interested in her views and later her as a person.
True loves focuses on both physical and mental aspects of love which in itself is of course a form of dichotomy
This series is the best. I like to imagine that they retire to Padme's bedroom, lay on the bed, and then start a long winded discussion on that side tangent.
Relationship goals right there
DULY NOTED
Then Anakin resorts to argumentum ad baculum and stabs her multiple times with his meatsaber.
perhaps a discussion on the intricate relationship between the processes of fertility, mortality, migration and society as a whole
@@naamadossantossilva4736There must've been blood everywhere! What a unique style of murder weapon. To think someone could actually sharpen meat into a sharp implement. Fascinating.
I was so enraptured by Anakin’s political theorum I didn’t recognize the “Peace, Freedom, Justice, and Security” callback until it was explicitly stated. I stand in awe.
4:33 "When I asked if we could free her from the **slavery** we left her in, I was told no. Well, actually, Yoda looked me up and down, said slavery was a 'skill issue,' then walked off. But I took it as a no."
Best quote from any of these yet
I love how all the philosophers Anakin brings up are thinly-veiled references to real thinkers, and then you just blindside me by pulling out Thrawn.
Pla-ato had me reeling.
LOL totally love that too. Shows there was some fun thought and nerdiness the writer has. I love nerdy humor
I didn't catch the name on the very first one, and just sat there like "This is Hobbes..." then he said it again and I was like :D
I like how the AI pronounces everything right except for those names lol Like it knows what they actually are but is forced to say these instead
Who's the philosopher cited by Padmé at 11:16?
Mace Windu isn’t actually bald, he just loses a hair every time Anakin mentions dichotomies
So he only ever has one hair at a time got it
@@s.nifrum4580oh let be really anakin mention dichotomies so much windu became the first completely hairless human
Lmao same
"The Jedi never taught me how to respond to positive feedback" is the best line in this.
4:39
"A skill issue, slavery is!"
"Alimony and child support, all women want is! Prove Grogu is mine, Yaddle cannot!!"
-Jedi Master Yoda
The thought of Yoda as a deadbeat dad is just intensely funny to me. Even moreso that he just peaces out to Dagobah.
Master Yoda there is not another muppet among the thousands of planets in the republic so I have to call bull.
I’m glad Windu saying “Seducing former queens of Naboo with philosophy” got some context. All we need is Vader ranting to Luke in ESB about dichotomy
AND THE JEDI JUMPING OUT OF WINDOWS ALL THE TIME OKAY THIS IS A MASTERPIECE
Would be cool to have Vader talk about how they’re not going to rule the galaxy, but rather implement new systems and safeguards, to THEN leave the galaxy in the hands of those capable to govern it
Then Luke says you're lying and jumps....
@@San-nj8fj alternatively the bit ends up being either luke or leia being people he would genuinely trust to lead a nation. Thus the dichotomy of one viewing worthiness of power as an innate quality that must be sought despite having the populace on his side, and one viewing worthiness of power as something granted by the populace despite conveying an innate quality of leadership
Luke... I am your dichotomy
Padme being the only person who engages with Anakin’s philosophical musings in this universe is such a wholesome and incredible spin on things, holy shit.
Padme realising that engaging Anakin intellectually is the only way to seduce him was beautiful to watch unfold.
@@zachryder3150 She overcame the Autism by engaging with and loving the Autism.
Truly, the most wholesome character in the series. Contrasting her presentation in the canon as largely vapid and honestly kinda a side character. This dichotomy provides both humor and illustrates the fundamental flaw with presenting a planetary leader in such a way. Masterful.
@@karnewarrior Me and the bad bitch I pulled by being autistic moment
@@karnewarriorWhat are you saying. She had done more than Leia had ever done in the movies. Why is she considered “vapid” and “side character” but not Leia?
@@LilacSreya They never mentioned anything about Leia though, did they? Why are you making the comparison as if they were?
"He will highlight"
"He hasn't written yet."
Boy, that's a better use of future visions than nightmares about people dying.
Is it still plagiarism if it hasn't been written yet?
@@geneericname7138How would it be plagiarism if he is doing Thrawn’s bidding and encouraging Fa*cism? Funny joke though.
@@geneericname7138it's sourcing a claim in an academic paper that's not plagiarism
Weirdly, more of a charming dynamic than any actual scene of them in the movie. The fact that Padme actually finds him attractive, for a start, is very refreshing after seeing her look generally uncomfortable and unnerved by his advances for two of the actual movies.
I also like how Anakin is completely uninterested in her until she actually tries to intellectually engage with him
I really want to see Darth Vader excitedly explaining the thesis of Anakin Skywalker, and despite the fact he 'destroyed him', he rambles about how smart he was.
it can be his recruitment pitch to luke on cloud city
@@cpob2013 Okay, that's good! That's genuinely funny.
In the middle of explanation Luke jumps off into the sweet abyss.
When we last met I was but the apprentice, but now I am the master
'Only a master of evil, Darth
'Evil as a concept is meaningless, as it implies a dichotomy of action that could be better described as eusocial
@@IRGodful This one gave me a good chuckle as well.
Bro : "I have immaculate rizz"
Bro's rizz :
It rizzed me up tho....
it worked didn't it?
Bro’s Rizz: His Thesis
the undecided nature of how attractive this makes him is a dichotomy Anakin would find worthy of study
"Why so rizz"
-bro
"but you're not actually against democracy, are you? Just against demegogs who misuse the power they accumulate."
"Yeah sure, anyways..."
😂
The aforementioned
"Chiss polymath Mitth'raw'nuruodo"
is none other than
Grand Admiral Thrawn.
Long live the Empire!
Really? I thought he was another real world philosopher they were referring to, his name sounds just like Otto VonBismark
An 11 minute speech from Anakin always feel like a 2-hours-long dissertation... And I am all-in for it!
I want the 2 hour dissertation
Add a half hour if you want the interesting side tangent.
The way Anakin was able to so clearly identify flaws within the republic but was unable to recognize the core practical issues of his own proposal (for example, how one should determine who is most suited to lead or ensure that the dominant voice has the wisdom to accept influence from others) demonstrates the dichotomy inherent to trying to better a system. It is always easier to destroy than it is to build, and so too it is always easier to identify flaws in an existing system than it is to design a system devoid of flaws.
There's also notable irony in the fact that Palpatines powers ultimately stem from being democratically elected on a platform that only existed to serve his goal of seizing power, meaning the "elective qualification" in the government Anakin ends up creating is still just being a power-hungry demagogue.
Although there is considerable room for a counter-argument where the boundary of Palpatines platform lies. He "organised" an entire state into existence, was at one point the leader of two governments (although the second government used the resources and preferred politics of polities that existed in the same fashion when they were part of the Republic, so there was little in the way of organising to be done). This would be grounds to consider him a superb candidate for emperor.
The counter-counter-argument to this is that he rallied these planets based on their mutual hatred of the common practices of the republic. That's not a raison d'etre for a peacetime government, someting Anakin considers a core aspect of good leadership, which in this case is something Palpatine didn't achieve. The Trade Federation is in so far only really a mongol horde.
And last but not least, the criticism that is specific to democracy as opposed to autocracy, that of a misalignment in the qualities needed to rule and the qualities needed to be elected, is still present in autocracies. The conceit of dictatorial power is that the dictator only has legitimate power _while he is actually in power_ - when he dies, there are technically two options: He selects an heir with the appropriate skills to lead, or his leadership staff competes for the position of the dictator (in the many forms of murder, blackmailing, intimidation, etc.). In practice it will always come down to the general staff competition, the heir just gets a headstart on making power plays. Unless there are some abstract qualities you can tie to the cutthroat measures I mentioned (and those I didn't), the only thing the transfer of power in a dictatorship selects for is the ability to neuter your opponents. We can see this express itself in the most common form of dictatorship being ones led by militaries, not because they're more qualified for solving problems like famine and brain drain, but because they are automatically always in a position to gun down competing branches of the government before they can make powerplays.
@@slyseal2091 In history this is often an issue with primagenature monarchies. While systems like the much-more-shortly-lived-than-commonly-attributed Wittangemot may help, they were still restricted to the relatively small group of aethlings, and such a small group may well have no one who is qualified. But in a dichotomy, full evaluation becomes harder the larger the group, and you are at that point selecting more for acting ability than governing ability. As an interesting side-tangent, JRR Tolkien, though enamored of monarchies, seemed later in life to realize this shortcoming. That however wise Aragorn may have been, in his line would inevitably rise "One like Denethor, or worse."
All this is to say nothing of the corrupting effects of power. We can again explicate a dichotomy: While in a system of strict primogeniture, assuming it is followed, there is no behavioral attractor whereing the supreme executive power attracts those already corrupt or succeptible to corruption. But in doing so we have eliminated any selection for any OTHER factor necessary for proper governance. Further, an heir who, however educated, grows up with those around him knowing full well that he shall one day have power, has their sense of empathy placed in great peril.
Exactly.
In fact, a republic governed by a wise philosopher king such as Supreme Chancellor Sheev Palpatine is the perfect system in which the unlimited power is safely kept under check by the balanced maturity of this great statesman. The most suited leader is clearly the one that can ensure the safety and peace of the free and just Senator Amidala, and hence the core practical issue has been resolved, and be it by a fortunate turn of events in which such philosopher king is readily available and willing to sacrifice his love for democracy to take over the heavy burden of true absolute emperor.
@@professorhaystacks6606 But in case of Tolkien example, it is a weakness of the system, or the unavoidable entropy of humanity and the world? As, even if a new Denethor rise later on, it will be later, and considering the monarchice system robustness in the europian context we can argue thet it is may be much-much later then in a democracy where the whole system already questenable from the get go.
The other point came to mind is thet a leader have to be ideal or it is enough if it is sufficent? In a sense my question is thet having an unasusming monarch who most propably pretty close in temperament and intelligent for most of his subject is still better then a democratly elected leader who are prone to be more powerhungry, overly ambitious or just a puppet of the elits who helped him gain the office.
I love this take on Star Wars where Anakin has political philosophy autism instead of war crime autism. If only he convinced Obi Wan of his four pillars on Mustafar (video idea?)
He will still commit the same war crimes. Just explain them differently.
That's grand finale right there.
I truly believe that Anakin didn't _miss_ all the Hints Padme was dropping
He was just interested in a spirited discussion more than _another_ person just wanting him for his body, like the jedi with their midi chlorian testing device
Okay this video is amazing for a few reasons:
1. You clearly did some solid research about governance philosophy, all in the service of making a joke about Anakin's "Peace, Freedom, Justice and Security" line. Masterful.
2. I love that Padme isn't just critical of Anakin's tangent, she actually has some solid views on it and is clearly a hardworking liberal arts student that matches Anakin's caliber.
3. Their shared love of the subject creates more romantic tension than any scene in Episode 2 ever did
Do you know who the last two thinkers are? I can't "Un-Star Wars"
Mith'raw'nuruodo and Shue'nery'he
@@cyberninjazero5659 I'm not familiar with the second name, but Mitth'raw'nuruodo is a canon Star Wars character, more commonly refered to as Grand Admiral Thrawn.
@@auvidence Oh yeah I thought it sounded familiar.
@@cyberninjazero5659Shue'nery'he is probably Henry Shue
@@RenanS5 And just like that I'm introduced to a new thinker. Thank you
Autistic Anakin is literally the best possible reality in the starwars universe
Special interest: dichotomy
I would rather have this one instead
@@DustunColeman I was refering to this one 🙂
dude i’ve been headcannoning him as autistic since i watched the prequels and this little silly ai series makes me feel so seen 😭😭
@@r4dbit416 He got that.
All the wild statements of Yoda in these skits make me worry for the eventual Yoda episode.
I think there's only 2 images throughout this whole video and it's more entertaining than a lot of official star wars content put out today.
That zoom-in " . . . SURE." though when she suggests that he doesn't _really_ want to abolish democracy
Better writing.
Its better than the originals for me
This is more entertaining than the movie it's riffing on.
4:35 "Skill issue, slavery is, Young Skywalker."
- Master Yoda
"To my meth room, I must go."
-Master Yoda
@@Roger00100The methditation chamber*
@@AHeroWith1000NamesThank you, Nameless Hero
*sexually* "Oh Anakin, you know you can go as deep as you want with me..."
*Loudly* "DULY NOTED!"
i absolutely love that Anakin is completely oblivious to all her advances.
But the really funny thing is that he's not at all oblivious! He's just really passionate. And it ends up working out.
I like to imagine he got the hints but deliberately tabled them to keep going on about his thesis.
He did notice it wasn't until she start engaging with him is when he gave a fuck I'm glad I wasn't the only that noticed@@tylerian4648
Oblivious? Bro got laid at the end of the video!
And I guarantee some of the dirty talk involved Padme calling his dick his "pillar of government"
@@tylerian4648 - Is this an example of an imbedded thesis? To elaborate, when presented with the dichotomy of physical attraction vs. mental / intellectual attraction, should the physical be relegated to a subordinate priority, so that, eventually, greater gratification would be achieved?
This is the 11:45-second scene that Attack of the Clones needed for this romance to be plausible.
I know this is supposed to be a silly meme, but I have genuine respect for the amount of effort you put into making this interesting and entertaining, and not feel like the 10+ minute it is.
'Will Write that?' 'He hasn't writen it yet'.
I love this concept of the Jedi just using their extrasensory knowledge to steal clips of knowledge and wisdom from all across the timeline.
Also the fact that was thrawn’s real name
Anakin and thrawn knew each other during the clone wars and the imperial age
Hell thrawn knew that he was Vader
So it almost appears to imply that he and thrawn had discussed this before. Maybe they weighed on each other’s writings who knows?
@@s.nifrum4580 They obviously had a correspondence together
Anakin seeing into the future but just to look for things that help with his thesis
@jedihunter176 The reference part in a jedi's thesis probably be a mess full of sources that haven't been written yet.
@@PaiSAMSEN I will use it in my own writing
- What is your source for that?
- It has not been written yet
“Allow me to briefly summarize how the system should work.”
Bro’s brief summary:
this is incredibly brief and therefore not thorough enough. I want more
Have you read Pla-ato's _Republic_? It is not a long book, and very funny, but it summarises the various philosophies lionising the different forms of government and what motivated the reasoning, while pointing out how none of them are adequate.
She said he can go as "deep as you want to"
This might honestly be the shortest explanation of how a state should be run, and I take Political Theory at uni
That's quite brief for politics
6:27 I love how all the text is there for her response, but Anakin just cuts her off anyway lmao
0:59 Ignores flirt, continues original, convoluted, bizarre rant. Based and philosophypilled
"Twi'lek thinker Thom Ashobbes" = Thomas Hobbes, who wrote _Leviathan_ (1651)
"Hutt thinker Locka" = John Locke, who wrote _Two Treatises of Government_ (1689)
"Rodian thinker Daaved Hu'ume" = David Hume, who wrote _Essays, Moral, Political, and Literary_ (1758)
"Wookie philosopher Isaibelin" = Isaiah Berlin, who wrote "Two Concepts of Liberty" (1958)
"Bith thinker Pla-Ato" = Plato, who wrote _Republic_ (375 BCE)
"Chiss polymath Mitth'raw'nuruodo" = Grand Admiral Thrawn, a character from the Star Wars Rebels series
"Trandoshan thinker Shue'nery'he" = Henry Shue, who wrote _Basic Rights_ (1980)
Thanks, this is helpful
Thank You, shamefully I get that the names wasn’t just a random names only at Pla-ato.
Thrawn might be in Rebels, but he's an EU character.
@@blackcitadel9 as soon as they’re introduced into canon they are no longer an eu character
@rhobeans 1) that's not how it works. He was invented during the EU. So he is not from canon.
2) there are canon novels with thrawn in them that predate star wars rebels haveing him. So even if we only look at canon sources he is not from rebels.
Is this just a verbose argument of the “i have brought peace freedom justice and security” bit from revenge of the sith lmao
In my head, this is the reasoning that brought Anakin to that bit
@@sealsaregood5146
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
Seriously though man these are really well made and I really hope you have Anakin and Padme do a full on back and forth.
I feel like this anakin would not fall to the dark side
@@dalekrenegade2596 anakin would'e been fine if the jedi simply approved of him clapping padme's cheeks.
why pala was the good guy:
palpa was pro family , jedi are anti family
palpa ended human slavery , while jedi were fine with human being enslaved by s̶p̶a̶c̶e̶j̶e̶w̶s̶ Toydarians
palpa ensured the fighting only killed droids and clones bred for war, ensuring minimial civilian casualties and damage to infrastructure
palpa eliminated the cult called the jedi , which forcibly kidnapped children and brainwashed them from being able to relate to regular people.
I did the god damn Dicaprio point when he said that, I tip my hat from one seal to another
I never imagined to become so invested in this story as I currently am. I started watching these videos to have a good laugh every now and them, but now I genuinely enjoy them, both for the humour and the fascinating philosophical rants Anakin comes with.
Thank you, Seal Are Good. You have opened my eyes to the truth: Anakin was destined to be a philosopher from the start.
Dude, I really appreciate how well you know your lore lol. Plo Koon's electric judgment. Then in the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise when Anakin said the Jedi told that story to him when he first went to the Jedi Temple and Palpatine was like "wait how could they have told you if it hadn't happened yet?" You're a fucking legend.
The lore behind the Fingies is so sweet and sad. A guy trying to remember his mother in his own way, despite knowing how stupid it sounds.
Also Padme just actually engaging with Anakin, pure crack.
Imagine if Palpatine found out about this before Shmi's death. He might have freed her just so she could get his future apprentice to speak like he's older than 5 years old
Note: Lucas originally had a deleted scene where Dooku and Palpatine were behind Shmi's kidnapping, but I believe that's non-canon now
Followed by yoda declaring slaver a skill issue them doing a backflip
I think i lost my ability to take the real Anakin seriously. Now he is forever gonna be this Anakin in my mind and i will expect even Vader to go ''I can kill you BUT you have a choice to live, IF YOU LISTEN to my latest thesis'' and then the opponent just offs themselves to escape
"Obi-Wan never told you what happened to my thesis"
Captain Antilles choked himself out rather than hear Vader's latest thesis
He's an invincible cyborg murder machine, forever angry that nobody cares enough about his thesis.
@@cyberninjazero5659 "Join me. We can bore the galaxy together."
(Luke purposely falls off the support)
@@thomasrinschler6783 "We can educate the galaxy together as Thesis advisor and grad student"
The duality of the scream that Anakin let out with his soul on 0:14 is simply beautiful. It could range between excitement of the permission to rant for 3h or coitus intent
"What if Jedi keep jumping or of windows around me?
Whatever, I'll burn the bridge when i come it."
That's gold. That's top tier writing. 6:18
I love the fact that despite Anakin's rants he and Padmé have better chemistry here than they ever had in the movies themselves
yeah but we all know the people would have hate it more if it had happen like that. also we have to hint the tendencies of anakin towards dictatorial regime.
Have you heard of the Tragedy of Anakin's dichotomy? It's something you won't want to hear...
this needs to be a video in the series
"What is attraction if not a dichotomy between puerile lusts and considered appreciations of character and intellect"
"Is it possible to hear this dichotomy?"
"Yes. Anakin never shuts up about it."
"Is it possible to learn of this thesis?"
"Not from a Master"
But at the same time,does posing the question not inherently make you want to learn more? Does being told you won’t want to hear something make you want to hear it more? As it is a kind of forbidden fruit. This presents an interesting dichotomy between what you need and what your psychology tells you you want
I'd like to express just how much I like the fact that when you script out characters being cut off, you still continue to add the statement they were planning on saying. It's just one of those things that I really like. It shows thought put into your work, and I hope that similar forms of videos done by other people eventually adopt this style of script writing- for lack of a better term at what's being done here.
It really adds what we would have gotten from a book. The fact that they go to all this effort for a meme is just incredible.
How tf does 11 minutes of the same 2 images kept me so engaged.
It pains my heart that a 3 hour long Anakin Skywalker's philosophical speech is still unreleased. Please make it a reality
I'd much rather watch a video rant of Anakin mentioning on why the Separatists is the perfect governing faction in Star Wars than anything shat out by Disney nowadays.
i unironically liked anakin philosophical speech. Untreated Autistim Anarkin is cool
I hate how much I love the chemistry here
they're so fun to watch
Your hating of your love is a dichotomy.
Idk why but that "returning to our prior conversation" without missing a beat just killed me
Anakin read the whole damn library but still can't read the room.
The fact that Anakin didn't have a normal upbringing but instead spent his youth and early adulthood with a knowledgable Knight like Kenobi yields acceptable credence to this portrayal.
Heart
One could say that the gap between his backwater enslaved childhood and the subsequent years within the Jedi's hallowed halls present quite the dicho--
"Twi'lek thinker Thom Ashobbes" has me rolling immediately. Dont make me imagine Thomas Hobbes dressed as Ayla Secura. I beg you
I was assuming the Star Wars was also male, but screw it I like your idea better.
I do like that you have a bunch of actual philosophers referenced and then flat out have a quote from Grand Admiral Thrawn (direct from Choices of One, if I am not mistaken)
10:30 realising this was all tying into his speech in RotS hit like a truck
Padmé used flirt unfortunately anakin is a nerd, yet somehow she still got him
A true political savant, she improvises new strategies to secure victory against impossible adversaries.
Padme thought that speccing high into Charisma would help her flirt with Anakin, but in the end, it was her investment into Intelligence that helped her woo him.
Also she should have specced a little more into Endurance, because somehow she died from giving birth to twins in a highly medically advanced birth center.
That was *her* dichotomy.
This is true. My ex basically was telling me she wanted me in many many ways. And it didn't click until she literally moved my hand to her... on a date.
@@StarPlatinum3000 to be fair there’s an implication that Palpatine somehow used her life to stop Vader from dying. Which would be why he could tell she was dead when it happened in order to gaslight Vader.
@@jeremytitus9519 Which unfortunately is further evidence to Anakin's point here.
My god, these two somehow have more chemistry than they did in the movies. Wow.
Some day, their will be enough technology and manpower to enable the fans to reimagine ALL of the star wars trilogies as feature length movies. I suspect it will be a chaotic time, but it will likely produce some amazing gems.
I loved the names of the 'alien' philosophers. 'Thom Ashobbes' made me laugh out loud
I cannot stress this enough but I ADORE this version of Anakin! The sheer depth of character development in just the first few minutes is staggering compared to the original prequels. Also as someone already said, seeing Padme dropping clear hints but then eventually engaging in the discussion causing Anakin to fall deeper in love was GENIUS!
The Thom Ashobbes pun was greatly appreaciated.
Also Daaved Hu'ume (David Hume), the Hut Thinker Locka (John locke), Isaibelin (Isaiah Berlin, I think) and others!
Oh yeah, and Pla'ato (Plato, obviously)
I mean his leviathan theory shit ( i mean did he want to create the third Reich ?)
Those were all the ones I caught as well, couldn’t figure out the last two.
Shue'nery'he is probably Henry Shue IMO no idea about the other one though!
@@marcusdesai506Mith'raw'nurodo is just Thrawn.
Slavery is a skill issue - Yoda
My most favourite line ever 😂
I think Yoda is supposed to represent Nietzsche 😅
@@stevencooper4422 I think Yoda is just a drug induced a-hole boss
@@stevencooper4422 Nietsche definitely didn't call slavery a skill issue. In fact under his idea anyone could be an Ubermensch, even a slave or a prisoner (not to be confused with the Nazi's Ubermensch, which is a very currupted and perverted version that is so distinct from the original idea its not even recognisable and frankly quite the opposite). All that is needed is the right mindset. Nietsche whould vehemently disagree with the notion that slavery is a skill issue. Yoda is just an annoying 4chan user, not someone like Nietsche.
@@jaspermooren5883 Since the video was satire I'm just loosely associating the concept of failure being weakness as Nietzsche lol
@@jaspermooren5883 Yeah, I made the 4chan connection, too. "green text" after all.
okay, for real though this video is insanely well put together with a lot of real philosophical arguments from real thinkers. if i had seen this a year ago i probably never would have realized.
hats off to the writer.
I almost died at "Next" 3:00
I Love the fact that Padme while really..REALLY wants to have a deeper negotiation with anakin, she can pull of the actual conversation really well and offer a positive criticism, making their relationship truly beautiful
Anakin's obsession with dichotomy is a subtle reflection of how he struggles between the Light and Dark Sides of the Force.
It ain't subtle. XD
One could say it’s a Dichotomy
Oh god im dying 😂😂😂
Now you gotta do one where Ahsoka leaves the Order cause she just cant handle being the go to person for Anakin's thesis and she's just using Barriss's betrayal as an excuse to not hurt Anakin's feelings.
The inclusion of the reference to the Yuuzhan Vong and the theory that Palpatine created the Empire because knew about their coming invasion was very well executed.
Girls: Shall we retire to the bedroom?
Me: Does a full scale 5 hour lecture about retiring from work...
If it worked for the Chosen One...
Two weeks later: What, was she hitting on me?
The whole thing being a leadup to a play on that single line from Revenge is actually amazing.
These videos with Anakin and his long ass speeches are hilarious, more entertaining than Disney has ever produced. I'm still waiting for the full 2 hour Dichotomy thesis 😂😂
0:30
"The Twi'lek thinker Thom Ashobbes"
He wrote the book 'Biggest Fish'
For those who don't get the joke, look up Thomas Hobbes
Also, "the Hutt thinker Locka"
You have no idea how starved I have been of another Anakin dichotomy rant. Thank you
Unironically wrote better chemistry between Anakin and Padme than George ever could have
“He hasn’t written it yet”
Clerevidence is a blessing from the force
1:18 I fully was expecting Padme to say "You have my Tacit Consent aswell ;)"
I did not expect actual political science and philosophies in my SW shitpost.
That and Padme referencing Shue
i love the anakin referencing thrawn cause they are buddies and honestly even this version of anakin probably likes thrawn. The guy loves arts and philosophy and would happily engage with anakins thesis.
They're probably both autistic and it's awesome
I've watched this several times already and the mix of philosophy and memes still kills me
I like how the philosophers actually exist ; Thomas Hobbes, David Hume, Plato...
Looks like Palpatine's claim about jedi masters always throwing themselves out of windows had some truth to it...
Who would have expected it from Obi-Wan "suicide is not the Jedi way" Kenobi (he actually says that in Legends once)
6:35 - She was trying to say "I don't think you are using the right expression". It took me 10 attempts to read that.
Here's a pro-tip - if you're on desktop, pause the video and use , and . (comma and period keys) to go forward and backward frame-by-frame.
I use that version as a joke so it took a minute to realize it should be cross normally
Dude just read 2 A-level specification books for philosophy and politcs and made this masterpiece
Excellent video. Love how it’s both sarcastic and educational
I love that padme is disinterested at first but then completely engage with him
She's a keeper.
A lecture on the philosophy of government somehow turned out to be better romantic dialogue than the actual movie.
This is so good. A high quality prequel shitpost is rare these days.
I adore your work. Each new video confirms in my mind your creativeness and skill, two qualities I honestly didn't expect when I first started watching. I hope you continue to make these and much appreciations for all the laughs!
We cannot stress enough how much work in terms of research must have gone through that video just to make these jokes.
Salute to the madlad.
Star wars: The return of dichotomy
This isn't from _Backstroke Of The Antithesis?_
Of all the one’s I’ve seen so far, I was the most engaged with this one. I’ve had to pause and think at different points.