"I am technically prophesied to kill you" "That's one interpretation of bringing balance to the Force" "I was talking about the Rule of Two doctrine founded by Darth Bane. So, in a way, whether I choose the Light side path or the Dark side path, I will end up killing you in the future" "... Oh..."
"But, Da . . . Anakin. Have you considered MY thesis on the nature of the prophecy; balance means both sides, Light and Dark, must be equal in measure. With you upon my scale, the light side outweighs us. There must be only two left on the Light side for there to be balance." "Or, what if we just did a massive recruitment spree?" "What?" "We put out large posters and messages across the galaxy; "The Force Needs You, to sign up for the dark side and bring balance"
To be fair, nobody really seems to listen to Bane, anyway. Between Vosa, Ventress, the various Inquisitors, odd cases like Grievous or that Lego force-clone, and probably a dozen cases I'm unaware of... Darth Bane must be rolling over in his grave, honestly.
"No... that's not true... that'd be *plagiarism!"* "Search yo- no, Luke. I'm telling you that I am your father." "I bet you tell everyone that, *Vader!"*
@@andrewponder3855"look, just because Vader is Dutch for father doesn't mean I'm everyone's daddy. I just happen to be your dad" - Darth Thesis "... what language is 'Dutch'?" - Luke Skywalker
Obi-wan:Anakin my alligence is to the religion to the temple Anakin:İf you are not with science, Then you are my enemy Obi-wan:Only an atheist deals in science, I will do what ı must
@@mustafayigit8529 Anakin: This is a common misconception, but a great many early scientific discoveries were made under the auspices of various religions. The Bomer monks alone advanced the understanding of neurosurgery and cybernetics greatly in the process of figuring out how to put their brains in jars.
*starts lecturing him* Obi-Wan: so this is why Master Windu jumped out of the window. Fortunately I've been going thru this for much of your life Anakin. Plus, you can't lecture the lecture master.
That's what the Inquisition is for, the grand inquisitor really fits in this role with his pursuit of knowledge. They even met for the 1st time in the archives
I have a feeling the kids will criticize his thesis and point out the major issues with Ani Thesis. And Ani will get angry and pull out his lightsaber because he cannot refute the Kids points
ABSOLUTELY! They overthrow both Jedi and Sith, bringing balance to the force with academic expertise. They thoroughly and RIGOROUSLY examine every single thought exercise ever brought up,using the lessons learned for dominance both in combat and scholarly endeavors. They hail TToDPtW and Dr. Anakin Skywalker as the birth of this new age, for in the examination of the Dichotomy, True Balance has been brought to the galaxy. More and more people join the Order of Dichotomy, reformed with great wisdom and endless scholarly discussion. Every new idea they come across, the Doctors and other scholars of the Order of Dichotomy thoroughly explore every aspect, application, and implications that can be thought of from these ideas. Someone brings up solar panels being used in space, so they put into place Dyson Spheres in uninhabited systems, or systems without planets,using them as massive farmworlds and factory worlds, calling them "Life Stars" for where once was a useless system and a star burning away at nothing until its death, now, they can bring life to the galaxy. Everyone absolutely HATES this generation of scholars at first, with their potentially lethal rants, but slowly, a cultural shift towards scholarly insight spreads across the galaxy, an Empire that ensures peace, freedom, justice, and security for all its citizens.
I think the pessimistic approach outlined in the subtitles makes sense. The "prophecy" only exists to shield jedi from criticism, it creates a clear balance between dark and light but nobody actually knows what it does, so everyone can use it for their purpose.
I am also interested. Kreia certainly had some good insight into force-related issues. To this day, "The Philosophy of Kreia: A Critical Examination of Star Wars" is one of my favorite Star Wars videos on RUclips.
I really love the Padme and Anakin relationship in this alternative timeline With Padme being willing to listen and engage Anakin on his Thesis as well as calling him Daddy
I know right? I'm not looking forward to find out how their relationship ends in this version. i couldn't give a damn about them in the real movies. But knowing this channel, good chance they don't have a falling out and it's just force choking kink gone wrong.
He’s smart! He just says “fingies” because that’s what his mother would call them when he was a child, and by remembering her like this, in a way, it’s like he’s carrying a piece of her with him. Really wholesome stuff he tells Padmé during their political debate.
The intellect required to shoot lightning from your fingies is insignificant compared to the intellect required to write a thesis on The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise. Henceforth, lightning fingies is an appropriate description, despite the juxtaposition of words attributed to vaguely defined terms such as 'smart' or 'dumb' resulting in the dichotomy in Anakin's level of verbal expression.
His use of the phrase “lightning fingies” represents the dichotomous relationship he has within his own mind, and points to the duality of how Anakin grew up. For he was but a child when Master Windu set him on the path of academic pursuit in TToDPtW studies. A child who had the academic ability to understand complex concepts about the nature of the force, but is unable to learn how to properly pronounce “fingers”
*Fast forward to the A New Hope* Vader: the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant to the power of the three hour thesis of The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise, written by the brilliant Dr. Anakin Skywalker.
_"Just a thought, but perhaps instead of blabbing about your Mickey Mouse degree you could focus on finding the stolen data tapes or locating the Rebels' hidden fortress?"_
@@VestinVestin “I find your lack of faith on Dr. Skywaker’s thesis disturbing. Perhaps you need a reminder of its genius. You see, referring to the tale of Dark Plagueis the wise-“
@@RowanDrake47 that was the original version. He added 30 more minutes with that part about the interpretation about the chosen one prophesy in a later edition.
When Vader thinks his children died in child birth he’s going to go on and on about the irony of his name and how it symbolises his dicotomy of his cybernetic existence.
My personal interpretation, supported by Kreia herself, is that her argument doesn't exist to provide guidance. It's purpose is to be acknowledged, then refuted and overcome.
@@r3dp9"Everything I tell you is a lie." Though to be fair, I'm not convinced she was sane enough to fully distinguish reality from her own lies, which might explain why she didn't even try to do the things she was training the player to do.
2:39 This is the part where I realized that the betrayal at Mustafar HAS TO BE Anakin discovering Padme had earplugs in any time Anakin recited his thesis so that she could stay alive.
Or better yet they’re just having one of their debates but because anakin’s dark side now he ends up choking her just like in the movie but he’s like “shit this isn’t usually when happens when I do that”
Younglings: "Master Skywalker! What is this all about?" Anakin: *Ignites lightsaber* Younglings: "Gasp! Here's here to kill us!" Anakin: "Now that my blade made of light has been activated, there should be sufficient illumination for you all to gather around and peruse the contents of this scroll I've written. You see, it's a thesis I wrote which discusses the dichotomy of Darth Plagueis the Wise. And-" Younglings: "This is so much worse!"
That one youngling: "Um Acktually! the tragedy of darth plagius the wise was first leaked through damasque holdings, under the lable of 'fuck that apprentice of mine, and his shitty speeches'. And was used as a propoganda piece against chancellor palpatine shortly after his rise to power, one can summarize through the depiction of the apprentice as a violent sociopath. That it was meant to discredit him, however when you look at the subtext it highlights the insecurities of both individuals and as a result the inherint flaw in the ideology of the sith. And how the ruel of two as a concept itself is doomed to fail due to it's unsustainability as a ideology which fails to consider sentient error as a fact of existence. Through the story itself which is originally written by the apprentice in question, we can gleam that the apprentice considered himself superior to others. But also how he constantly overlooks the fact that people in general don't wish the harm of others, and surrounds himself with similarly minded people, cutting him off from potential allies that might be able to fill in blindspots his own ideology created, such as the fact that by perusing power above all else. He's actively creating more enemies and by hiding his true nature he's alienating himself from all those he does surround himself with making the risk of betrayal that much greater."
@dm121984 they'll probably call him teet sucker Skywalker while he tries to tell them his thesis, which will lead to him killing them or they get like the other jedi and jump on to his lightsaber willingly
love how padme is so obsessed with anakin that she's managed to listen to the thesis hundreds of times it's so cute keep making these man they're hilarious
How to make the ending perfect: Make it that Anakin spreading his thesis actually worked 100% as Palpatine described only to lead to Palpatine losing the last shred of sanity he had left.
@@oriontaylor ...and of course, Anakin's tie fighter getting knocked out by the Falcon is what loosens Anakin's control over his (literally) captive audience long enough for Tarkin to press the button. Corresponding, funnily enough, with that utterly useless mosquito-sized blast by that X-wing.
Order 66 will just be the clones capturing the Jedi to have them listen to the full thesis and these Jedi choosing to die in the same way Mace Windu did
Y'know, I kind of want this to end up backfiring on Palpatine. Where Anakin does actually somehow spawn a new generation of academics. And there's now thousands of people going around, accidentally causing people to commit suicide by reading them their thesis.
I’m not sure what’s more impressive, Padme’s ability to listen to Anakin’s thesis or Anakin’s knowledge of languages that don’t exist. So far this only extends to romantic/Germanic language however
Notice how Anakins prediction came true, the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise is a tool for the apprentice to turn their own apprentice to the dark side. The apprentice here is using Anakins love for his thesis on the tragedy to turn him to the dark side
The rebellion starts from Darth Vader giving his thesis on a galaxy wide broadcast, then is gaslite by Palpatine into thinking the war is an disagreement between academic ideologies
I always wondered how ROTS would’ve played out if Anakin hesitated to kill the Jedi, but then our image of Darth Vader being ruthless would make less sense
Vader to younglings: "However, I submit that the use of dichotomy is not simply a deliberate narrative choices done by the unknown apprentice, with some minor additions by later authors, perhaps attempting to shift the purpose of the narrative in subsequent retellings, but rather an intrinsic part of the Sith identity that the legend was designed to communicate. The Sith being, by definition, defined by - " Obi-Wan: "I can't watch anymore."
Can you make a video with Count Dooku and Mace Windu speaking to eachother on Geonosis and argue with each other in Attack of the Clones and make it hilarious how they interact? It would be really cool to see these iconic characters interact further.
@sealsaregood5146 i think what would also be funny is for order 66 to be just Anakin going on the communicator and addressing all of the Jedi with his thesis, thus the clones kill the Jedi out of mercy explicitly requested. Anakin doesn't need Mustafar and is put in the suit to mask his identity after the galaxy is outraged at hearing his thesis. A drug induced coma and a lack of communicator spare Yoda and Obi-Wan respectively.
@@buddermonger2000 Also he will reach his full potential since he does not go to Mustafar. Mace says that you lose all your limbs if you go to Mustafar and when you say in your idea that Anakin doesn't go to Mustafar it means he reaches his full potential.
As the father of future schools of literary analysis through his thesis Darth Vader is an entirely appropriate title, kudos to Palpatine's naming sense.
Vader: "I find your lack of faith disturbing" ( Force choke) Admiral Motti: "Harder Daddy" Vader : "Wtf how the hell you know what my name means?" Admiral Motti : " Wait your name actualy means Daddy ? I said that in the heat of the moment." Vader: ... Admiral Motti:.... Admiral Tarkin: " Dad. I mean Vader put him down so we could continue with our plan against rebels."
now have yoda and obi wan return to coruscant only to find recordings of anakin explaining his thesis and defending against those who went insane 4 hours ago XD
There were Jedi who were actually enamored and impressed with the scholarly and deep ideas Anakin expressed in his thesis. They became his acolytes and they agreed to study under him to satiate their curiosity and because of their curiosity, they called themselves “The Inquisitors.”
Anakin's thesis is simply broadcast around the whole galaxy to each Jedi and thus the clones are not responsible for order 66 as it was a direct request by each Jedi to avoid listening to it more. The reason Obi-Wan survives is due to not having a communicator, and Yoda being in a drug induced coma again, and thus unable to process it. Due to the public backlash, Anakin is titled "Darth Vader" to the galaxy and given his armor as a cover up.
The experience of hearing Anakin's thesis while in a drug-induced coma, while not enough to send Yoda out the window, was enough to make him permanently swear off all drugs. Once fully sober, he reveals the full measure of his Force power, perhaps the greatest the galaxy has ever known, and sets out to fulfill the responsibilities he abandoned long ago, starting by defeating Darth Sidious once and for all. Unfortunately, the centuries of heavy drug use have ravaged his body and mind, and he rapidly grows tired and loses the ability to focus. Driven into exile by the shame of his defeat, he retreats to a swamp planet, and after long years of exile, the loneliness and depression cause a relapse as he begins to consume strange herbs and mushrooms he finds in the swamp.
No, assuming Obi-Wan is similar to his 'thesis Anakin' legends version, he honed Anakin's skill in the art of scholarly and philosophical debate. The coming battle at Mustafar may well be a defense of Obi-Wans latest published article detailing how the rise of the Sith is incompatible with the prophecy of the Chosen One, only for Anakin to bring up his own paper on the subject and winning; thus leading to his subsequent injuries as Obi-Wan seeks to soothe the burn to his pride by giving Anakin a much more literal burn.
Can't wait for Luke to be a genius who wants to achieve his - allegedly - deceased father's academic prowess after hearing it from Obi-Wan. And for Leia to fall in love with Han just because, by following his irresponsible lifestyle, she can finally distance herself from a family full of insufferable learned people.
Order 66 was just him ordering all the windows and the clones strategically set them up near cliffs etc so the Jedi had windows to jump out of in face of Anakin's thesis (and interesting side tanget) it all makes sense
![From my point of view, the Jedi are evil! [Legends] [Remastered]](/img/1.gif)
To be fair Darth Academius is absolute banger of a Sith name
*Darth Doctorateus*
Agreed!
Fr
Darth Thesis works better than I'd have thought too.
Darth Jedi Diploma with Some College
"I am technically prophesied to kill you"
"That's one interpretation of bringing balance to the Force"
"I was talking about the Rule of Two doctrine founded by Darth Bane. So, in a way, whether I choose the Light side path or the Dark side path, I will end up killing you in the future"
"... Oh..."
Perfect (and ironic) logic from Darth Dichotomy
"But, Da . . . Anakin. Have you considered MY thesis on the nature of the prophecy; balance means both sides, Light and Dark, must be equal in measure. With you upon my scale, the light side outweighs us. There must be only two left on the Light side for there to be balance."
"Or, what if we just did a massive recruitment spree?"
"What?"
"We put out large posters and messages across the galaxy; "The Force Needs You, to sign up for the dark side and bring balance"
Let me guess: Anakin sits all the Jedi down and reads them his thesis. Then the whole Jedi Order commits mass suicide.
@@GayleColsonNot only the men…but the women, and the children !
To be fair, nobody really seems to listen to Bane, anyway. Between Vosa, Ventress, the various Inquisitors, odd cases like Grievous or that Lego force-clone, and probably a dozen cases I'm unaware of... Darth Bane must be rolling over in his grave, honestly.
Palpatine accidentaly ushers in a golden age of academia as it turns out the Younglings really take to Anakin's thesis
I would love this to be the next episode!!!
very based
This could even be the reason the empire functions better then the republic did.
Good Ending
@@ultimaterecoil1136 The Inquisitors end up as masters - not quite on the level of doctors - of the thesis. And the galaxy is better for it
-Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father's Thesis.
-He told me enough. He told me you deleted it.
-No, Luke. I WROTE the Thesis.
I would actually love to see a sequel series with Luke following his father's academic devastation
"No... that's not true... that'd be *plagiarism!"*
"Search yo- no, Luke. I'm telling you that I am your father."
"I bet you tell everyone that, *Vader!"*
@@andrewponder3855"look, just because Vader is Dutch for father doesn't mean I'm everyone's daddy. I just happen to be your dad" - Darth Thesis
"... what language is 'Dutch'?" - Luke Skywalker
@@dm121984”It’s not a language the Jedi would teach you.”
@@andrewponder3855 Certified chef after cooking that up, holy shit
I'm beginning to suspect Chancellor Palpatine isn't arguing in good faith...
Preposterous!
I mean, something does seem a bit off here. But I can't quite put my finger on it.
@@videocrowsnest5251 Don't you mean put your fingies on it?!
Its treason then
What have you got against this sweet old man!?
It’s honestly adorable how much Anakin loves Padme. And it’s EXTREMELY impressive that she has survived hundreds of Anakin’s thesis presentations.
They were made for each other.
That's because they're made for each other. They combine perfectly on all aspects of life, even in Anakin's thesis.
It is said that she even pointed out many flaws in the thesis, leading to Anakin making many revisions.
Makes sense, Padme was very always very smart and knows a ton about politics and philosophy
Padme is just in it for the deep and aggressive "negotiations" post academic debate.
Anakin: I have brought knowledge, brilliance & enlightenment to my new empire!
Obi-Wan: Your new empire?
Anakin: Don't make me lecture you.
Obi-wan:Anakin my alligence is to the religion to the temple
Anakin:İf you are not with science, Then you are my enemy
Obi-wan:Only an atheist deals in science, I will do what ı must
@@mustafayigit8529 Anakin: This is a common misconception, but a great many early scientific discoveries were made under the auspices of various religions. The Bomer monks alone advanced the understanding of neurosurgery and cybernetics greatly in the process of figuring out how to put their brains in jars.
Jedism vs Scientologist
@@brettwood1351 shut up anakin
*starts lecturing him*
Obi-Wan: so this is why Master Windu jumped out of the window. Fortunately I've been going thru this for much of your life Anakin. Plus, you can't lecture the lecture master.
"I've noticed I tell many great knee slappers, but you have yet to laugh."
Gold
*Dicth? Stop making languages*
This who video is gold! I haven't laughed this hard in years!
The absolute seriousness and unflinchingness with which he called them knee slappers was so great.
“… it hurts my feelings a little bit”
That's what I'm gonna tell my kids when they don't react to my Dad jokes
Would be hilarious if the kids, unlike the older jedi actually really like anakins thesis and decide to join him on his scientific persuit
That's what the Inquisition is for, the grand inquisitor really fits in this role with his pursuit of knowledge.
They even met for the 1st time in the archives
I have a feeling the kids will criticize his thesis and point out the major issues with Ani Thesis.
And Ani will get angry and pull out his lightsaber because he cannot refute the Kids points
ABSOLUTELY! They overthrow both Jedi and Sith, bringing balance to the force with academic expertise. They thoroughly and RIGOROUSLY examine every single thought exercise ever brought up,using the lessons learned for dominance both in combat and scholarly endeavors. They hail TToDPtW and Dr. Anakin Skywalker as the birth of this new age, for in the examination of the Dichotomy, True Balance has been brought to the galaxy. More and more people join the Order of Dichotomy, reformed with great wisdom and endless scholarly discussion. Every new idea they come across, the Doctors and other scholars of the Order of Dichotomy thoroughly explore every aspect, application, and implications that can be thought of from these ideas. Someone brings up solar panels being used in space, so they put into place Dyson Spheres in uninhabited systems, or systems without planets,using them as massive farmworlds and factory worlds, calling them "Life Stars" for where once was a useless system and a star burning away at nothing until its death, now, they can bring life to the galaxy. Everyone absolutely HATES this generation of scholars at first, with their potentially lethal rants, but slowly, a cultural shift towards scholarly insight spreads across the galaxy, an Empire that ensures peace, freedom, justice, and security for all its citizens.
@@Random_dud31false, anakin would gain an army of like minded yappers
Star Wars : Revenge of the Academicians
"A Kreiaian reading of the prophecy"
Now hold on, go back, I want to hear what he has to say.
I think the pessimistic approach outlined in the subtitles makes sense. The "prophecy" only exists to shield jedi from criticism, it creates a clear balance between dark and light but nobody actually knows what it does, so everyone can use it for their purpose.
I am also interested. Kreia certainly had some good insight into force-related issues.
To this day, "The Philosophy of Kreia: A Critical Examination of Star Wars" is one of my favorite Star Wars videos on RUclips.
Look up philosophy of Kreia. It’s like 3 -2hr long videos
@@cc0767 yeah i can 100% hear this in kreias voice
I love that Palpatine is slowly learning how to actually manipulate Anakin and get him to do what Palpatine wants.
Going off script is a pathway to many abilities...
@@mayke3280 Abilities some might call... _lighty fingies_ .
Yeah and fall to the dark side in this version looks more plausible than in the movie
"ANAKIN, ANAKIN, NO!" - Qui Gonn's ghost watching Anakin tell thousands of Younglings the thesis, with the very interesting side tangent
3 or 4 times back to back
@@andylam2265 On this day Palpy didn’t realize how fraked he was XD
Unfortunately, Obi-Wan wasn't there to translate, so Anakin had no idea what he was saying.
The real question is whether Obi Wan and Yoda are going to survive viewing the security tapes of this thesis reading.
To be fair, they shouldn't have built the nursery on a cliff with a window facing the edge
"Have you ever heard the story of "Darth Kneeslap the Thesis?"
"It's not a story the Jedi EVER want to hear about again!"
"And no sith either, by the way"
@@marcel2837
Indeed.
@@marcel2837if extended, no sentient beings
I really love the Padme and Anakin relationship in this alternative timeline
With Padme being willing to listen and engage Anakin on his Thesis as well as calling him Daddy
Isn't he like 5 years or so younger than her, and given how they looked like when they first met, it'd make more sense for the reverse to be the case.
I know right? I'm not looking forward to find out how their relationship ends in this version. i couldn't give a damn about them in the real movies. But knowing this channel, good chance they don't have a falling out and it's just force choking kink gone wrong.
@@thelakeman2538they call each other Mummy and Daddy because they already knew Padme was pregnant.
To be fair, she probably called him Daddy in the original timeline too.
@@thelakeman2538 Given how they looked like as kids she looked 3 or 4 years older than him tbh
Anakin: “You used lightning fingies.”
Sidious: “Seriously Anakin. Smart or dumb. Pick one.”
¿Por qué no ambos?
He’s smart! He just says “fingies” because that’s what his mother would call them when he was a child, and by remembering her like this, in a way, it’s like he’s carrying a piece of her with him. Really wholesome stuff he tells Padmé during their political debate.
The intellect required to shoot lightning from your fingies is insignificant compared to the intellect required to write a thesis on The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise.
Henceforth, lightning fingies is an appropriate description, despite the juxtaposition of words attributed to vaguely defined terms such as 'smart' or 'dumb' resulting in the dichotomy in Anakin's level of verbal expression.
I love the quirky intellectual trope though.
His use of the phrase “lightning fingies” represents the dichotomous relationship he has within his own mind, and points to the duality of how Anakin grew up. For he was but a child when Master Windu set him on the path of academic pursuit in TToDPtW studies. A child who had the academic ability to understand complex concepts about the nature of the force, but is unable to learn how to properly pronounce “fingers”
*Fast forward to the A New Hope*
Vader: the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant to the power of the three hour thesis of The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise, written by the brilliant Dr. Anakin Skywalker.
Tarkin: Vader, we want fear of this Battlestation to cow the galaxy into submission. Not suicide.
_"Just a thought, but perhaps instead of blabbing about your Mickey Mouse degree you could focus on finding the stolen data tapes or locating the Rebels' hidden fortress?"_
@@VestinVestin “I find your lack of faith on Dr. Skywaker’s thesis disturbing. Perhaps you need a reminder of its genius. You see, referring to the tale of Dark Plagueis the wise-“
Two hours, not three. Two and a half with the interesting side tangent.
@@RowanDrake47 that was the original version. He added 30 more minutes with that part about the interpretation about the chosen one prophesy in a later edition.
Yoda: Not by blasters but by thesis these Jedi were killed.
Obi-Wan: "Who? Who could have done this?"
Yoda: "Fucking kidding me you have got to be..."
To be fair Darth Dichotomy sums him up pretty neatly
Wait, no hold on. Go back to Darth Academus. That one rules!
I thank you meant: ,,That one teaches!''
Love that it took Palpatine this long to finally break down and just enable anakins thesis obsession to manipulate him 😂
Perhaps it’s because he finally understands, after experiencing it for himself, just how dangerous his thesis truly is.
@@Death2all546 More dangerous than the Death Star
Palps should just build a planet sized megaphone for Anakin to spread his thesis
@@jotheunissen9274luckily for the universe, sound doesn't travel in a vacuum
@@Pihsrosnec It truly is a dichotomy to speak yet not be heard
When Vader thinks his children died in child birth he’s going to go on and on about the irony of his name and how it symbolises his dicotomy of his cybernetic existence.
It’s the only way he has to cope
2:45 ''She has the thesis to my heart'' This is adorable.
I KNOW RIGHT
"Kreiaian Reading"
Influence Gained: Kreia.
Influence Lost: Kreia
@@warlordofbritanniaChris Avellone Gained: Kreia
My personal interpretation, supported by Kreia herself, is that her argument doesn't exist to provide guidance.
It's purpose is to be acknowledged, then refuted and overcome.
@@r3dp9"Everything I tell you is a lie."
Though to be fair, I'm not convinced she was sane enough to fully distinguish reality from her own lies, which might explain why she didn't even try to do the things she was training the player to do.
Wasn't that Vergre, not Kreia?@@samueldimmock694
2:39 This is the part where I realized that the betrayal at Mustafar HAS TO BE Anakin discovering Padme had earplugs in any time Anakin recited his thesis so that she could stay alive.
Or better yet they’re just having one of their debates but because anakin’s dark side now he ends up choking her just like in the movie but he’s like “shit this isn’t usually when happens when I do that”
Younglings: "Master Skywalker! What is this all about?"
Anakin: *Ignites lightsaber*
Younglings: "Gasp! Here's here to kill us!"
Anakin: "Now that my blade made of light has been activated, there should be sufficient illumination for you all to gather around and peruse the contents of this scroll I've written. You see, it's a thesis I wrote which discusses the dichotomy of Darth Plagueis the Wise. And-"
Younglings: "This is so much worse!"
That one youngling: "Um Acktually! the tragedy of darth plagius the wise was first leaked through damasque holdings, under the lable of 'fuck that apprentice of mine, and his shitty speeches'. And was used as a propoganda piece against chancellor palpatine shortly after his rise to power, one can summarize through the depiction of the apprentice as a violent sociopath. That it was meant to discredit him, however when you look at the subtext it highlights the insecurities of both individuals and as a result the inherint flaw in the ideology of the sith. And how the ruel of two as a concept itself is doomed to fail due to it's unsustainability as a ideology which fails to consider sentient error as a fact of existence. Through the story itself which is originally written by the apprentice in question, we can gleam that the apprentice considered himself superior to others. But also how he constantly overlooks the fact that people in general don't wish the harm of others, and surrounds himself with similarly minded people, cutting him off from potential allies that might be able to fill in blindspots his own ideology created, such as the fact that by perusing power above all else. He's actively creating more enemies and by hiding his true nature he's alienating himself from all those he does surround himself with making the risk of betrayal that much greater."
@@craytherlaygaming2852"..." - Darth Vader
"..." - that youngling
"I have found my own apprentice" - Darth Vader.
@@craytherlaygaming2852
Bro, you cooked. Actually, Im promoting you to Chef due to your cooking exceeding expectations of exceeding expectations
@dm121984 they'll probably call him teet sucker Skywalker while he tries to tell them his thesis, which will lead to him killing them or they get like the other jedi and jump on to his lightsaber willingly
love how padme is so obsessed with anakin that she's managed to listen to the thesis hundreds of times it's so cute
keep making these man they're hilarious
Well no she actually engages with him philosophically.
Yes but also she knows similar topics
This is emblematic of the dichotomy inherent to the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise
*this is emblematic of the dichotomy inherent to *TToDPtW*
I read it! Not just to woman, but to children too!
Palpatine is a great improviser for weaponizing a thesis against space wizards
How to make the ending perfect: Make it that Anakin spreading his thesis actually worked 100% as Palpatine described only to lead to Palpatine losing the last shred of sanity he had left.
Ironic, he granted his own desire for immortality only to begin wishing for death.
"Unlimited (academic) POWER!!!" - Darth Lost It
"She has the Thesis to my heart." is actually so cute though. Anakin's love for Padme surpasses even parody it seems.
Imagine if he finally becomes Vader.
Dr. Vader discussing his dissertation to Imperial Moffs, Tarkin and Emperor Palpatine
Tarkin would have sabotaged the Death Star reactor himself just to have it stop.
@@oriontaylor ...and of course, Anakin's tie fighter getting knocked out by the Falcon is what loosens Anakin's control over his (literally) captive audience long enough for Tarkin to press the button. Corresponding, funnily enough, with that utterly useless mosquito-sized blast by that X-wing.
And then Tarkin just has the Death Star self-destruct.
I find your lack of appreciation for my thesis disturbing
Admiral Motti: *comatose after 2.5 hours of prolonged thesis exposure*
Tarkin: “Enough of this. Vader, release him.”
I buckled at "please no" thanks my main man
Also I hope you're proud "fingies" has become part of my regular vocabulary
Now that you mentioned, it is part of mine too and am esl
Lmao
*Woman
0:11 darth cuddles 💀
I doubt that he’ll need Order 66 in this timeline.
I think that's kinda the point! lol
Order 66 will just be the clones capturing the Jedi to have them listen to the full thesis and these Jedi choosing to die in the same way Mace Windu did
Proposed that the clones were actually asked by the Jedi to kill them when Anakin broadcast it on all of their communicators
1:11 Palpatine was painfully aware that he wouldn't survive another 30 minutes of a philosophical lecture by Anakin
Darth Lectures
Darth Lectorius
Darth Lecturus
@@fatpotato190 yeah, that sounds better
Darth Lecherous?
Darth licorice
'Kreia'ian reading of the prophecy. I see what you did there.
How'd I miss that?
"Tyranus- wait I used that one already" LMAO
"A Kreiaian reading of the Prophecy" killed me.
It eventually killed her, too.
The real reason why Kreia was kicked out by both sith and jedi - her thesis on the Force
Y'know, I kind of want this to end up backfiring on Palpatine. Where Anakin does actually somehow spawn a new generation of academics. And there's now thousands of people going around, accidentally causing people to commit suicide by reading them their thesis.
I’m not sure what’s more impressive, Padme’s ability to listen to Anakin’s thesis or Anakin’s knowledge of languages that don’t exist. So far this only extends to romantic/Germanic language however
That don't exist YET
Notice how Anakins prediction came true, the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise is a tool for the apprentice to turn their own apprentice to the dark side. The apprentice here is using Anakins love for his thesis on the tragedy to turn him to the dark side
Darth Plagueis the Wiser. 😂
What if Anakin was smart: well, in that case Palpatine is even smarter! "Reading Thesis 3 times, back to back" is a stroke of genius.
1:11 I love the Kreiaian school of thought, it is nice to see Anakin does too.
"The core thesis of the work is a Kreiaian reading..."
The best part is someone did make an almost 2 hour thesis video on Kreia's philosophy.
"I've noticed I tell many great knee slappers..... but you have yet to laugh" nearly killed me
This Palpatine is more clever than the original
you've heard of kill them with kindness. but never kill them with knowledge
The rebellion starts from Darth Vader giving his thesis on a galaxy wide broadcast, then is gaslite by Palpatine into thinking the war is an disagreement between academic ideologies
"She has the thesis to my heart" is actually kind of beautiful.
2:18 "yeah, I'm not gonna do that" was my favorite part
I always wondered how ROTS would’ve played out if Anakin hesitated to kill the Jedi, but then our image of Darth Vader being ruthless would make less sense
" I've noticed I tell many great knee slappers, but you have yet to laugh."
Too relatable.
Vader to younglings: "However, I submit that the use of dichotomy is not simply a deliberate narrative choices done by the unknown apprentice, with some minor additions by later authors, perhaps attempting to shift the purpose of the narrative in subsequent retellings, but rather an intrinsic part of the Sith identity that the legend was designed to communicate. The Sith being, by definition, defined by - "
Obi-Wan: "I can't watch anymore."
Yoda: _"NOT to listen to the security recordings DID I NOT TELL YOU!?"_
@VestinVestin Yoda has something to hide.
Besides his ketamine stash, I mean .
@@davidwuhrer6704And the used needles under his seat.
Can you make a video with Count Dooku and Mace Windu speaking to eachother on Geonosis and argue with each other in Attack of the Clones and make it hilarious how they interact? It would be really cool to see these iconic characters interact further.
I'll put it on the agenda
@sealsaregood5146 i think what would also be funny is for order 66 to be just Anakin going on the communicator and addressing all of the Jedi with his thesis, thus the clones kill the Jedi out of mercy explicitly requested.
Anakin doesn't need Mustafar and is put in the suit to mask his identity after the galaxy is outraged at hearing his thesis.
A drug induced coma and a lack of communicator spare Yoda and Obi-Wan respectively.
@@buddermonger2000 Most excellent idea ever. The creator should consider making it.
@@buddermonger2000 Also he will reach his full potential since he does not go to Mustafar. Mace says that you lose all your limbs if you go to Mustafar and when you say in your idea that Anakin doesn't go to Mustafar it means he reaches his full potential.
The Jedi are no match for Anakin's Thesis. This is going to be a bloodbath.
As the father of future schools of literary analysis through his thesis Darth Vader is an entirely appropriate title, kudos to Palpatine's naming sense.
don't worry Darth Academius, i slapped MY knee!
I knew Anakin would be DARTH THESIS 😂
Vader: "I find your lack of faith disturbing" ( Force choke)
Admiral Motti: "Harder Daddy"
Vader : "Wtf how the hell you know what my name means?"
Admiral Motti : " Wait your name actualy means Daddy ? I said that in the heat of the moment."
Vader: ...
Admiral Motti:....
Admiral Tarkin: " Dad. I mean Vader put him down so we could continue with our plan against rebels."
Darth Pontificus The Methodological.
Obiwan looking at the hologram an hour later: "by the Force, why didn't he just cut them down with his lightsaber!"
well frankly a Kreiaian reading of these prophecy is actually worth hearing, she's always fascinating
"Kreian school of thought" is underrated, I love the little details in this that flesh out the depraved world that Darth Academius inhabits
Darth Academius for Sure! That one Just Rocks!
now have yoda and obi wan return to coruscant only to find recordings of anakin explaining his thesis and defending against those who went insane 4 hours ago XD
“A kreiaian readin”. I love how many little jokes like this that most casual fans will not understand or even register as a joke he slips in.
What is it a reference to?
@@mustacheman529 Kreia from KotOR2
@@Vladislav888 Ah, thank you. I never played KOTOR2, since I couldn't get into KOTOR1.
Now remake the Mustafar Battle
But this time, both Obi Wan and Anakin are lecturing each other instead of just Obi Wan
A “Kreiaian” reading of the prophecy got us KOTOR 2 fans
Anakin bullying Sidious is hilarious
Darth Academius is a 100/10 title
To be fair, naming Anakin "Darth Plagueis the Wiser" would have been such a flex for Palpatine..
There were Jedi who were actually enamored and impressed with the scholarly and deep ideas Anakin expressed in his thesis. They became his acolytes and they agreed to study under him to satiate their curiosity and because of their curiosity, they called themselves “The Inquisitors.”
I just realized that you for shadowed the name "Darth Icky" all the way back in episode 4 of the series "Dooku Reveals All"
its from a real interview with george lucas, when the game designers asked him for some more darth names.
1:40 "feeligns"
Anakin's thesis is simply broadcast around the whole galaxy to each Jedi and thus the clones are not responsible for order 66 as it was a direct request by each Jedi to avoid listening to it more. The reason Obi-Wan survives is due to not having a communicator, and Yoda being in a drug induced coma again, and thus unable to process it.
Due to the public backlash, Anakin is titled "Darth Vader" to the galaxy and given his armor as a cover up.
The experience of hearing Anakin's thesis while in a drug-induced coma, while not enough to send Yoda out the window, was enough to make him permanently swear off all drugs. Once fully sober, he reveals the full measure of his Force power, perhaps the greatest the galaxy has ever known, and sets out to fulfill the responsibilities he abandoned long ago, starting by defeating Darth Sidious once and for all. Unfortunately, the centuries of heavy drug use have ravaged his body and mind, and he rapidly grows tired and loses the ability to focus. Driven into exile by the shame of his defeat, he retreats to a swamp planet, and after long years of exile, the loneliness and depression cause a relapse as he begins to consume strange herbs and mushrooms he finds in the swamp.
No, assuming Obi-Wan is similar to his 'thesis Anakin' legends version, he honed Anakin's skill in the art of scholarly and philosophical debate. The coming battle at Mustafar may well be a defense of Obi-Wans latest published article detailing how the rise of the Sith is incompatible with the prophecy of the Chosen One, only for Anakin to bring up his own paper on the subject and winning; thus leading to his subsequent injuries as Obi-Wan seeks to soothe the burn to his pride by giving Anakin a much more literal burn.
@@seekerofalice9787 a bold assumption
The way you do those "WTF" moments of silence just kill me every time.
4:12 "with Padme already calling me..."
😂
0:06 I love how you can see all the Darth names Palpatine is thinking of at the top right.
Anakin saying Darth Plagueis The *_Wiser_* as his sith name is crazy xD
Jedi are always throwing themselves out of windows.
Palpatine turned into Sauron
PADME HAS HEARD ANAKIN'S THESIS HUNDREDS OF TIMES!!?
IS SHE OK?!?!
Probably as a bedtime story
How do you think she lost the will to live?
@@solomonmatthews7921 inbefore she loses the will to leave cause she can no longer hear that thesis...
The Thesis is mightier than the Saber
0:24 Whoa, gotten pretty close to plagiarism, Ani! They might’ve revoked your doctor title for that.
"Where is Padme?"
"It seems, in your academic passion, your thesis killed her."
2:45 "She has the Thesis to my heart" is a really sweet, if somewhat corny, thing to say.
Which makes it super interesting character
I think palps doesn't know what happens when a 5-7 year old realizes that the adults are annoyed when they tell the same awful story repeatedly
oh wow- so the movie deaths for the younglings was actually censored from the true carnage of the thesis presentation
Darth Academus goes extremely hard tbh and fits the characterization. Also would fit Palps figuring out how to weaponize Anakin by stroking his ego.
Anarkin doesn't have an ego, he has a thesis. xD
Great now I want to hear Anakin’s take on the Chosen One prophecy!
Can't wait for Luke to be a genius who wants to achieve his - allegedly - deceased father's academic prowess after hearing it from Obi-Wan. And for Leia to fall in love with Han just because, by following his irresponsible lifestyle, she can finally distance herself from a family full of insufferable learned people.
By the third reading:
"Master Skywalker, there is too much if it. What should we do?"
The duel of the fates have to be Obi Wan trying to escape Anakin reciting his thesis, by kicking and pushing him to try make him shut up.
Obi Wan: It's over Anakin! You thesis is flawed! I have the academic high ground!
The Duel of the Fates was Qui-Gon vs Maul. Vader vs Obi-Wan on Mustafar is the Battle of the Heroes.
This channel is a tremendous exposé of the importance and strategical use of silence in comedy! Brilliant my good sir, brilliant! 🤣
Order 66 was just him ordering all the windows and the clones strategically set them up near cliffs etc so the Jedi had windows to jump out of in face of Anakin's thesis (and interesting side tanget)
it all makes sense
I was literally just binging this series
Oh no! Anakin has learned how to influence the subtitles, someone stop him before he floods the world with his thesis!