Studio Electives - The Day of the Lord and the Chronology of Christ's Second Coming - Matthew 24
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After reviewing what he discussed in previous sessions about the Day of the Lord, David Rosenthal explores Matthew 24. He takes us step by step through and unfolds the events of the End Times, giving clarity to the final 7 years of history as we know it. Don't miss this Studio Elective, "The Day of the Lord and the Chronology of Christ's Second Coming."
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God bless you David for your teachings, I can't wait to see you in heaven with all the Saints.
Maranatha come Lord Jesus please count us worthy to escape these things coming on this world and to stand before the Son of Man
Such wonderful clarity!
Absolutely outstanding! Everyone should listen to this message! Very insightful and scriptural!
Incredibly well done. Line upon line, here a little, there a little.
Thank you so much for teaching this. My heart has grieved for a long time as the scriptures began to teach me the truth I was also given that false belief of the pre rapture being before the great tribulation. Mathew 24 so clear to give us the preceding events. God bless this message to reach any ears. So many will not prepare and be caught off guard and take the mark of the beast. God be with us. The angels shall feed the woman and child for 1000 days Remember He will take care of us in incredible ways have faith. Stay strong church God bless. Strive for godly living. Be holy for God is holy
We have been blessed to read and hear your dear father's teachings, for the past 30 years, he is greatly missed. and now we are blessed to hear you David. Great message, God bless and keep you.
David Rosenthal & Zion's Hope, thank you for expounding with clarity, the teaching from the Bible on this subject. Greatly appreciate the approach you have taken. Thank you very much.
Absolutely outstanding. Yes, I'd heard most of it from Zion's Hope teachers before, but as usual, there were new and clarified things spoken here by David. I so much appreciate your ministry...and yes, I listen almost daily to CD's of all the current teachers, but also those of Marv's. This group of brethren are, in my opinion, the best. Love
I am so glad I found this ministry. You are such humble and knowledgeable teachers. STABLE GOD BLESS
I'm very grateful for David's clear explanation on God's Word.
Truth teaching's here. Thank you, and God Bless you and your family.
TRUTH!! Thank you for explaining these things SO clearly from Scripture. THANK YOU, David Rosenthal/
Zion's Hope!!
This all making sense.. I'm going from post tribulationalist to pre wrath
Just curious....How long were you a post tribulation believer? I'm post but just found these teachers.... I've only listened to two videos but not intently with my Bible. I'm still not seeing anything but post in the Bible. Thanks!
I'm keeping an open mind, with both post trib/ pre wrath as a possibility.
Excellent teaching. Thank you brother.
What a blessed teaching! 🙌 Thank you for its clearness
Amen love the word of the Lord, great job Sir.
Love your teachings. Thank you for posting these!💛
This guy is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!! Preach/teach on. my brother IN Christ! The mystery (secret) of the Times of the Gentiles of which Jesus appointed Paul as THEIR APOSTLE) is not mentioned here, for it was still yet hidden, and we are living in the Church Age currently!!
Love how you make so much sense!
Fantastic message and so we’ll explain…
Yes most us were told that Jesus return is imminent without any warning, while also the Word says in Amos 3:7
"Surely the LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets."
The Word is very clear on the signs we are to watch
Enjoyed watching this teaching.
The leaders of the churches are misleading the people with the rapture. I cannot believe the amount of preachers I see feeding that to their church.
Thank you David, I watch all your teaching.
Wish I could've attend your church.
GOD Bless you an your family 🙏
Pre Trib is the reigning belief for sure. I wonder how that will effect the believers when they see we are not gone when AC is established.?!
Think about it, the devil is cunningly deceitful. He wants people to think oh I can just get saved in the tribulation and live it up now. It causes Christians to be lazy, and not about our Father’s business. Christians are clearly not going to be ready for what’s coming. However, they will argue you down over that pre-TRIB rapture, and accuse you of being lost and a heretic. I’ve been called names. I used to be a pre-trib believer, but I had more questions than answers. It wasn’t until I started truly, truly studying the Scriptures and praying for wisdom in this matter, that I now see the truth.
We are to test the spirits, and we are to test what pastors are teaching us because the true teacher is the Holy Spirit and we need to make sure we’re getting the truth. The scriptures fit together like a glove. I can’t thank God enough for helping me see this. I was so excited, I became tearful. The fact that the pre-TRIB rapture is the most popular belief, should be our first red flag, since the Bible clearly says the way is narrow, and few there be that find it. That should cause us to search the scriptures to make sure we’re on the straight and narrow path.
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It will add to the great falling away! Apostasy!
Solid teaching. Thank you!!
Nice job!
At about the 30-minute mark, David has a slide up that refers to the first half of Daniel's 70th week as the "beginning of sorrows." I have seen him use "beginning of labor pains" in other messages which is more accurate since Jesus used the Greek noun "odin." This presents a contradiction for the prewrath view because the apostle Paul links these "labor pains" (odin) to the day of the Lord. Paul wrote, "For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. 3 While they are saying, “Peace and safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape" (1 Thess. 5:2-3). Does everyone see where Paul uses "labor pains" (1 Thess. 5:3)? Notice this is linked to the day of the Lord! Prewrath claims the day of the Lord starts after the labor pains, but Paul teaches the day of the Lord comes suddenly like labor pains.
Are you going to follow the apostle Paul or prewrath proponents? You can't do both on this issue.
Amen, la enseñanza concuerda de manera perfecta con las escrituras....!!
I am confused when you are talking about "it being cut short" if the u years run😮
It seems that you are saying there is very little difference between Pre Wrath rapture and post tribulation rapture - because Pre Wrath happens just before the return of Christ. So, from the midpoint (the Abomination of Desolation) how many years will it be until the rapture?
finally someone believes and teaches the right order of things!!!! So tired of hearing the Darby theory over and over and over . It is a damnable teaching setting up so many t fall away.
Amen. The Serpent whispers "Surely, you shall not die..."
First of all, I agree with his order of events here, I am no longer a pre-tribulationist. Secondly, it’s not Darby’s theory. He may have been responsible for a resurgence of the theory, but it’s been around since the church fathers.
Matthew 24:22 and 24:24 (paralleled in Mark 13:20, 22) refer to the care of "the elect" (tous elektous) for the action of God to limit the days of tribulation. The context points to the Jewish people as "the elect" (audience, Sabbath, flee Temple). However, in 24:31, the text refers to the gathering (episunago, 2 Thes 2:1) of "His elect" (the Son of Man's) which are described as coming from the four winds (not just Jewish). Is this differentiation plausible? Israel is spared, and believers of all ethnicity are gathered.
Read this passages in context and alongside all the passages of the OT & NT presented in this video. The elect are not just Jews. WE who are Christians are God's elect as well. Ask yourself, 'Who is Paul talking to in the following verses?':
"Who will bring any charge against God's ELECT? It is God who justifies." - Romans 8:33 NET
"Therefore, as the ELECT of God, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with a heart of mercy, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience," - Colossians 3:12 NET
Mt 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Audience= Believers
Elect= Believers
Jesus wasn’t talking to or about those national Jews, because they don’t believe what he says, they don’t believe who he is and they reject him!
So yeah, Jesus was talking to his followers/believers/elect!
Galatians 3:28-29 There is neither, Jew, nor Greek, there is neither Bond, nor free, there is neither male, nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham seed, and the heirs according to the promise.
Since I’m in Christ, I AM ABRAHAMS SEED AND OF THE ELECT! Thank you Jesus!
Shalom ! You said that we don't know how long last the Day of the Lord Yeshua/Jesus, but the Holies Scriptures tell us how it last, one year and ten days, as the day of Noah. The Wrath of God Yeshua last one year (Isaiah 34.8; 61.2; 63.4), so the raptur will happen after the six seals, at Yom Teruah, and God Almighty Yeshua will get married with His church/assembly, and would not go to war for one year as He order in (Deut. 24.5), and would come back at Yom Kippur, the seventh year. HalleluYAH ! Maran-atha ! Amen !
Please address the gap. You are asking us to take your word for this. A case can be made that it was 483 years until Messiah came (began Here s ministry, was cut off at mid week (mid of the 70th week) and the final 3.5 years played out in the aftermath of His crucification. This gap theory could be somebody's opinion.
Resting in facts ❌⭕❌⭕
The teaching of Matthew 24:29ff is wrong. This is NOT about the rapture. This is talking about judgment.
I disagree. Noah and his family were taken to safety in the Ark before the flood. That’s what is seen there.
I agree, those taken are taken away to judgement and those left are the believers that survived the tribulation, and they will usher in the millennial reign and repopulate the earth.
Mmm, I'm pre-wrath but don't understand some things ... if Jesus comes back like lightening in the sky and raptures the church, where does He go for the remaining time - the time when He pours out His bowl and trumpet judgements? Does He go back to heaven for the remaining months/years? If so, does that mean He came back to the sky, not to earth, for the rapture, but if so, how can every eye see Him at the rapture event? I thought that Jesus' appearing like lightening was the same event as when He comes back to earth on a cloud to set up His Kingdom. Also what about the Jews, they can't be saved when the church is raptured otherwise they'd go up with the church, but we know they're still on earth and sealed for the Day of God's wrath. As such, I don't understand how the rapture can be the same point in time when Jesus comes back and every eye will see Him. Surely the 'every eye' event must come later? But if so, is there a 'secret' coming to the sky as our pretrib brothers say? 🤔
Jesus will remain in the sky (in the clouds) to pour out His wrath.
I believe that Rev. 14:14-16 shows Jesus "sitting" on the clouds, (not COMING) from where He will pour out His judgments on the earth. The chronology of Rev. 14 shows the results of Christ's arrival (1) the 144k on the earth (not in heaven), Rev. 7:1-8; and (2) the raptured saints in heaven.
Yes the rapture takes place in the air not on the earth. Jesus doesn't touch the earth until he splits the mount of olives at His 2cd coming. I separate act from the rapture.🙂
Thank you david,let those with ears to hear,hear what the spirit says to the church's. Thank you as I am in an assembly of God church who believes a nd teaches only pretrib and am considered wrong and foolish to not believe as they do. I find it difficult as pastor is now teaching revelation on wed,s. I know he believes it is correct, but we know they are in error in end time teaching. I can find no church in my area that is prewrath and am considered to be out of order if I challenge that understanding
They laugh and say I will be taken out when the pretrib rapture comes to remove them. They simply are not open to believe otherwise. I am beginning to wonder if the false pretrib understanding will cause many to fall away in the future when it does not happen and the many will no longer endure, sadly.
Think about it, the devil is cunningly deceitful. He wants people to think oh I can just get saved in the tribulation and live it up now. It causes Christians to be lazy, and not about our Father’s business. Christians are clearly not going to be ready for what’s coming. However, they will argue you down over that pre-TRIB rapture, and accuse you of being lost and a heretic. I’ve been called names. I used to be a pre-trib believer, but I had more questions than answers. It wasn’t until I started truly, truly studying the Scriptures and praying for wisdom in this matter, that I now see the truth.
We are to test the spirits, and we are to test what pastors are teaching us because the true teacher is the Holy Spirit and we need to make sure we’re getting the truth. The scriptures fit together like a glove. I can’t thank God enough for helping me see this. I was so excited, I became tearful. The fact that the pre-TRIB rapture is the most popular belief, should be our first red flag, since the Bible clearly says the way is narrow, and few there be that find it. That should cause us to search the scriptures to make sure we’re on the narrow path. I think some people who say they are saved but aren’t will cave in, because the Bible says endure to the end and only a true born again believer will. It’s kinda’ like the vax, most Christians caved, outta fear from man. We only need to fear God, The One that has the power to put your soul in hell..
I go to a Calvary chapel, strict pre trib. There is plenty which unify us and we are in agreement with so we are at peace. The pastor knows my view and we are good friends. I wouldn't divide over eschatology, I truly believe very soon they will be forced to change their position because what they observe will contradict how they have interpreted this topic
End of Matthew indicates the rapture after sun and moon are darkened. The Angel's gather us up from the four corners
Yes just before the wrath of God
Yep, yep, yep👍
Lord I pray, open their eyes and hearts to once again have a love for the truth. Remove their pride from clinging on to doctrines of men and release their fear of tribulation and help them understand your Word as it is written, that there is no escape from prophecy and our faith will be tested as gold in a fire is purified. In Jesus precious name I pray. Thank you Jesus, thank you Yeshua, thank you Yehovah, Father God. Amen
Think about how you would react when Jesus returns. Will you smile and shout for joy, or will you hide your face? Is Jesus really in your heart?
Now when are you going to make one on the Pre-Wrath rapture? The new flavor of the month 🤣
Okay…so what about the tribulation saints? You know the ones that show up at Revelation 7:14 the ones that “came out of the great tribulation”? When is their rapture? All Pre-Tribbers never address this elephant in the room, because now they must make up a secret unseen rapture where the church rises first and a second rapture for the tribulation saints.
If the rapture of the church happens at the beginning before even the opening of the seals, then when is the second rapture for these tribulation saints? They arrive in heaven correct? Yes.
Oh, that’s right…there isn’t a second rapture in the scriptures. The resurrection and rapture happens when Jesus returns at His second coming, before the pouring out of God’s Wrath, and it’s no secret, and the dead rise first then we meet them in the air.
Then after the Millennial reign of Jesus there is a second resurrection at the Great White throne judgment.
Wrangling over the Pre-trib, Mid-trib, Pre-Wrath, and Post-trib …does show love for one another.
You just don’t see it, if I did not love and care for my brothers and sisters in Christ, I would not warn YOU that YOU may have to experience and endure persecution and wrath of satan.
You repeat and read the same scriptures every single day, the very same scriptures that I use to support my Pre-Wrath position
There is only 1 second coming, Pre-Wrath resurrection and rapture is the most biblical. There is no second, second coming. There is no secret rapture where only the living in Christ church is removed. The dead rise first, at least admit that the dead rise first. It doesn’t say that the living church rises first?
Even so, there is only 1 rapture of the living and 2 resurrections of the dead.
1 The dead in Christ at Jesus’s 2nd coming, the first resurrection.
(Revelation 20:5)(KJV)
(1 Thessalonians 4:16-17)(KJV)
2 The dead at the Great White throne judgement.
(Revelation 20:13-15)(KJV)
We are not appointed to the Wrath of God (1 Thessalonians 5:9)(KJV), it says nothing in the scriptures about us not appointed to the wrath of man and of satan, it says we will experience tribulations, we experience it already on a daily basis. Even Post-tribbers are in agreement though they believe it’s the last of the 7 trumpets or at the very end, because the 7 bowl judgments come AFTER the trumpets and the trumpets aren’t the very end, so that cannot be correct.
Even the earliest church and saints suffered persecution and tribulation. No…I’m not arguing and wrangling vain words, I’m telling my brothers and sisters to PLEASE get ready, get ready that one day…YOU may have to be prepared to be persecuted and to die for your faith in Christ Jesus and that it is Anti-Christ, satan, and man beating the bride, not God.
We are grafted in to Israel, one church, one body of Christ. We are resurrected and raptured at the same time, when our Lord and King Savior returns at His second coming. Otherwise, known as the day of the Lord, it’s the time Jesus is back present here.
The sun will go dark, the moon will not give light the stars and heavens disappear like a scroll, then we will see the sign of the Son of man, we will see Jesus descending in the sky on clouds. Then the resurrection and rapture… and it happens so fast, in the twinkling of an eye that it appears as if we came with Him and we follow Jesus as he descends down until His feet touch down on the Mount of Olives.
It IS the same event, the dead rise first then we meet them and Jesus in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Admit that the dead rise first. Admit that you can only return a second time once. Admit that the scriptures say nothing about a second, second coming. Admit that it’s not secret.
The trumpet was used as a signal for war, or for gathering. Yes, I agree it could be the Feast of Trumpets but that could also signal or sound the alarm for war. But, it could also be Tabernacles which I believe is the millennial reign, God/Jesus with us, I’m thinking atonement -we all stand behind Him as He dishes out the Wrath of God. The marriage supper is all the way back in Revelation 19:7. “The marriage of the Lord is come.”
Before the Wrath, pre-Wrath resurrection and rapture brothers and Sisters. The Wrath is poured out upon the beast kingdom and those that reject God and Jesus as Lord and savior. The Wrath of God begins at the trumpets and bowls, Rev 8:1 there is silence in heaven because the Wrath of God is about to be unleashed.
Eminence is false because Jesus himself said FIRST the apostasy and the revealing of the anti-Christ. Then the end will come. The apostasy is the great falling away and it’s gonna be all the pre-tribbers that thought that they would escape now being forced to get on their hands and knees to worship the beast and take their mark or be killed.
Then there is the strong delusion, come on…it’s not fallen pretending to be aliens, it is believing that this person IS God, the strong delusion is believing that the Anti-Christ IS their awaited Messiah.
Great vid, but you are not getting out until AFTER the apostasy and the revealing of the Anti-Christ. Before the Wrath of God not of satan.
In saying that the Holy Spirit filled church is the restrainer you are saying…
…The Holy Spirit filled church cannot leave until the Holy Spirit filled church leaves.
That is confusion.
The Holy Spirit will never leave the church in Christ.
Michael the ArchAngel is the restrainer
(Daniel 12:1)(KJV)
1 Thessalonians 4:13 KJV
“But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.”
1 Thessalonians 4:14 KJV
“For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.”
1 Thessalonians 4:15 KJV
“For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain UNTO THE COMING OF THE LORD shall not prevent them which are asleep.”
1 Thessalonians 4:16 KJV
“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and THE DEAD in Christ shall RISE FIRST:”
1 Thessalonians 4:17 KJV
“then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
1 Thessalonians 4:18 KJV
“Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”
Please hear me out, please brothers and sisters use common sense with this…you cannot have a 2nd, 2nd coming, that would be called a 3rd coming. Does the scriptures ever say that our Lord, King, and Savior Jesus Christ -will ever return a 3rd coming? No it doesn’t, we just mixed up what it means to come FOR the saints, and to come WITH the saints but it happens in the twinkling of an eye, it happens so fast that both statements are indeed true.
I know nobody but Jesus ❤️ loves me in this world, but I can still have love for all of you, and we are not sowing discord between our brothers and sisters, and if we are right about this -we just want you all to be prepared if your secret Pre-Trib rapture of the living church before the dead, or your mid-Trib rapture at the revealing of anti-Christ doesn’t happen.
Because of this I stand with the Pre-Wrather’s but also with the Post-Tribber’s. I just want you all to be prepared for the very real possibility that your faith may very well be tested by tribulation of man, of anti-Christ, and of satan -but not of God, that is what is in my heart for you.
Please just don’t be dogmatic, even I still hope and pray for a Pre, or even Mid resurrection and rapture at the 1 and only 2nd coming of our Lord.
Exactly, I agree with you, before the Wrath of God. The seals are not the Wrath of God, Jesus is opening the scroll. Heaven goes silent for half an hour before the Wrath of God is poured out.
I agree with you that there is a resurrection and rapture. I agree with everything that you state but I don’t agree that there is a secret rapture, and I don’t agree that Jesus returns a 3rd time when the scriptures clearly state that Jesus has a 2nd coming, and the dead in Christ rise first, then the living meet Jesus in the air together.
Show me the scripture that says that Jesus returns a 3rd time. Show me just 1 scripture that says Jesus returns at a 3rd coming, and don’t bother with the opinions of men, men have been wrong before. I hope I am wrong, and I hope and pray that you will at least consider, the alternative possibilities.
You will not escape at the beginning, middle, the 7th trumpet, or the very end. The resurrection and rapture occurs at the coming of our Lord.
“Unto the coming of the Lord”
1 Thessalonians 4:15 KJV
Before the Wrath of God
When Jesus comes
God bless you and keep you all safe.
@@MQShawGravityYes "the fear of tribulation" is real in the Pre Trib camp. An in the background, I hear the Serpent whisper " surely, you shall not die..."
Mt 24 only parallels Rev 4-19.
Where is the thousand year reign of the LORD?
Where is Ezekiel 38 and 39 on your time line?
There’s no millennium rain. It’s whenever the last day is Resurrection day John chapter 6, verse 39, 40, 44, and 54 proves it over
You’re not gonna have the nations resurrected for the millennium, and then defeated again and the Gog and Magog war that’s a recapitulated war
It’s the same as Armageddon
It’s the same as chapter 14, where Jesus resurrected us with his sickle he rapes us to the clouds, and the angel, the fire reaps the wicked to hell in the same day
When the Bible clearly says what will happen to the sky and the sun and the moon , why this pastor is telling something will happen to the sky, sun and moon. This is how people put their own thoughts
Lord I pray, open their eyes and hearts to once again have a love for the truth. Remove their pride from clinging on to doctrines of men and release their fear of tribulation and help them understand your Word as it is written, that there is no escape from prophecy and our faith will be tested as gold in a fire is purified. In Jesus precious name I pray. Thank you Jesus, thank you Yeshua, thank you Yehovah, Father God. Amen
Think about how you would react when Jesus returns. Will you smile and shout for joy, or will you hide your face? Is Jesus really in your heart?
Now when are you going to make one on the Pre-Wrath rapture? The new flavor of the month 🤣
Okay…so what about the tribulation saints? You know the ones that show up at Revelation 7:14 the ones that “came out of the great tribulation”? When is their rapture? All Pre-Tribbers never address this elephant in the room, because now they must make up a secret unseen rapture where the church rises first and a second rapture for the tribulation saints.
If the rapture of the church happens at the beginning before even the opening of the seals, then when is the second rapture for these tribulation saints? They arrive in heaven correct? Yes.
Oh, that’s right…there isn’t a second rapture in the scriptures. The resurrection and rapture happens when Jesus returns at His second coming, before the pouring out of God’s Wrath, and it’s no secret, and the dead rise first then we meet them in the air.
Then after the Millennial reign of Jesus there is a second resurrection at the Great White throne judgment.
Wrangling over the Pre-trib, Mid-trib, Pre-Wrath, and Post-trib …does show love for one another.
You just don’t see it, if I did not love and care for my brothers and sisters in Christ, I would not warn YOU that YOU may have to experience and endure persecution and wrath of satan.
You repeat and read the same scriptures every single day, the very same scriptures that I use to support my Pre-Wrath position
There is only 1 second coming, Pre-Wrath resurrection and rapture is the most biblical. There is no second, second coming. There is no secret rapture where only the living in Christ church is removed. The dead rise first, at least admit that the dead rise first. It doesn’t say that the living church rises first?
Even so, there is only 1 rapture of the living and 2 resurrections of the dead.
1 The dead in Christ at Jesus’s 2nd coming, the first resurrection.
(Revelation 20:5)(KJV)
(1 Thessalonians 4:16-17)(KJV)
2 The dead at the Great White throne judgement.
(Revelation 20:13-15)(KJV)
We are not appointed to the Wrath of God (1 Thessalonians 5:9)(KJV), it says nothing in the scriptures about us not appointed to the wrath of man and of satan, it says we will experience tribulations, we experience it already on a daily basis. Even Post-tribbers are in agreement though they believe it’s the last of the 7 trumpets or at the very end, because the 7 bowl judgments come AFTER the trumpets and the trumpets aren’t the very end, so that cannot be correct.
Even the earliest church and saints suffered persecution and tribulation. No…I’m not arguing and wrangling vain words, I’m telling my brothers and sisters to PLEASE get ready, get ready that one day…YOU may have to be prepared to be persecuted and to die for your faith in Christ Jesus and that it is Anti-Christ, satan, and man beating the bride, not God.
We are grafted in to Israel, one church, one body of Christ. We are resurrected and raptured at the same time, when our Lord and King Savior returns at His second coming. Otherwise, known as the day of the Lord, it’s the time Jesus is back present here.
The sun will go dark, the moon will not give light the stars and heavens disappear like a scroll, then we will see the sign of the Son of man, we will see Jesus descending in the sky on clouds. Then the resurrection and rapture… and it happens so fast, in the twinkling of an eye that it appears as if we came with Him and we follow Jesus as he descends down until His feet touch down on the Mount of Olives.
It IS the same event, the dead rise first then we meet them and Jesus in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Admit that the dead rise first. Admit that you can only return a second time once. Admit that the scriptures say nothing about a second, second coming. Admit that it’s not secret.
If the dead rise first, it must include the tribulation saints.
The trumpet was used as a signal for war, or for gathering. Yes, I agree it could be the Feast of Trumpets but that could also signal or sound the alarm for war. But, it could also be Tabernacles which I believe is the millennial reign, God/Jesus with us, I’m thinking atonement -we all stand behind Him as He dishes out the Wrath of God. The marriage supper is all the way back in Revelation 19:7. “The marriage of the Lord is come.”
Before the Wrath, pre-Wrath resurrection and rapture brothers and Sisters. The Wrath is poured out upon the beast kingdom and those that reject God and Jesus as Lord and savior. The Wrath of God begins at the trumpets and bowls, Rev 8:1 there is silence in heaven because the Wrath of God is about to be unleashed.
Eminence is false because Jesus himself said FIRST the apostasy and the revealing of the anti-Christ. Then the end will come. The apostasy is the great falling away and it’s gonna be all the pre-tribbers that thought that they would escape now being forced to get on their hands and knees to worship the beast and take their mark or be killed.
Then there is the strong delusion, come on…it’s not fallen pretending to be aliens, it is believing that this person IS God, the strong delusion is believing that the Anti-Christ IS their awaited Messiah.
Great vid, but you are not getting out until AFTER the apostasy and the revealing of the Anti-Christ. Before the Wrath of God not of satan.
In saying that the Holy Spirit filled church is the restrainer you are saying…
…The Holy Spirit filled church cannot leave until the Holy Spirit filled church leaves.
That is confusion.
The Holy Spirit will never leave the church in Christ.
Michael the ArchAngel is the restrainer
(Daniel 12:1)(KJV)
1 Thessalonians 4:13 KJV
“But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.”
1 Thessalonians 4:14 KJV
“For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.”
1 Thessalonians 4:15 KJV
“For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain UNTO THE COMING OF THE LORD shall not prevent them which are asleep.”
1 Thessalonians 4:16 KJV
“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and THE DEAD in Christ shall RISE FIRST:”
1 Thessalonians 4:17 KJV
“then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
1 Thessalonians 4:18 KJV
“Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”
Please hear me out, please brothers and sisters use common sense with this…you cannot have a 2nd, 2nd coming, that would be called a 3rd coming. Does the scriptures ever say that our Lord, King, and Savior Jesus Christ -will ever return a 3rd coming? No it doesn’t, we just mixed up what it means to come FOR the saints, and to come WITH the saints but it happens in the twinkling of an eye, it happens so fast that both statements are indeed true.
I know nobody but Jesus ❤️ loves me in this world, but I can still have love for all of you, and we are not sowing discord between our brothers and sisters, and if we are right about this -we just want you all to be prepared if your secret Pre-Trib rapture of the living church before the dead, or your mid-Trib rapture at the revealing of anti-Christ doesn’t happen.
Because of this I stand with the Pre-Wrather’s but also with the Post-Tribber’s. I just want you all to be prepared for the very real possibility that your faith may very well be tested by tribulation of man, of anti-Christ, and of satan -but not of God, that is what is in my heart for you.
Please just don’t be dogmatic, even I still hope and pray for a Pre, or even Mid resurrection and rapture at the 1 and only 2nd coming of our Lord.
Exactly, I agree with you, before the Wrath of God. The seals are not the Wrath of God, Jesus is opening the scroll. Heaven goes silent for half an hour before the Wrath of God is poured out.
I agree with you that there is a resurrection and rapture. I agree with everything that you state but I don’t agree that there is a secret rapture, and I don’t agree that Jesus returns a 3rd time when the scriptures clearly state that Jesus has a 2nd coming, and the dead in Christ rise first, then the living meet Jesus in the air together.
Show me the scripture that says that Jesus returns a 3rd time. Show me just 1 scripture that says Jesus returns at a 3rd coming, and don’t bother with the opinions of men, men have been wrong before. I hope I am wrong, and I hope and pray that you will at least consider, the alternative possibilities.
You will not escape at the beginning, middle, the 7th trumpet, or the very end. The resurrection and rapture occurs at the coming of our Lord.
“Unto the coming of the Lord”
1 Thessalonians 4:15 KJV
Before the Wrath of God
When Jesus comes
God bless you and keep you all safe.
The Rapture happens at the cosmic disturbance of Revelation 6 and there's a great earthquake in the sky receives a scroll that is us
Wow! This is exactly what I understand from Revelation chapter 6 but never heard anyone else say it. Also I think the crowd of people in heaven with palm branches in chapter 7 are the raptured.
@@URBLuvdYes!
But doesn't Jesus set up his millennial kingdom here on earth after He returns? If he pours out his wrath then won't the world be desolate??
Jesus says he is coming at an hour you don’t expect
YES, He sure does. We can know the season, but will cannot know the exact day or hour.
@@taylorking5463 How about the year
Yes. "When THEY say 'peace and safety' sudden destruction will come upon THEM. But YOU, brothers and sisters are NOT in darkness so that the DAY will overtake YOU like a thief."
For many yrs now, my pastor friend and I have disagreed on this. Sad as that is, he is blind to the fact we will be here for man's wrath. He's a big "imminence" person, not knowing that his interpretation of imminence is totally wrong.
The sun has holes in it now.
The only issue with is presentation is the being cut short, the scripture says no flesh would survive both the saved and unsaved, not just believers
No flesh as in no Chrstians who are flesh. Read it in context. Obviously there will be other flesh left alive on the earth and they are the ones who are persecuting the Christians and/or STILL rejecting Christ. Think about it.
I believe if it’s not cut short, then all of the elect would be killed!
I also believe that the unbelievers doing the work of Satan would still be alive even if it’s not cut short!
My. 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you:
they= unbelievers
you= believers
Unbelievers hunt down and kill believers!
Both sides of a colon are about the same thing!
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
Read John 14 and weep. There's 2 raptures so everybody is right.
Deut 24:5 goes along with it. The marriage of the lamb? When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business; but he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife he hath taken.
And yet we are told, "And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband." - Revelation 21:2 KJV. The city is made up of people, the people of God who are the Bride. It is possible that the bride, then, is in preparation for the wedding day before Jesus returns to her?
And remember when He does arrive, he has garments that are dipped in blood and the question is asked, "Who is this who comes from Edom, dressed in bright red, coming from Bozrah? Who is this one wearing royal attire, who marches confidently because of his great strength? 'It is I, the one who announces vindication, and who is able to deliver!' Why are your clothes red? Why do you look like someone who has stomped on grapes in a vat? 'I have stomped grapes in the winepress all by myself; no one from the nations joined me. I stomped on them in my anger; I trampled them down in my rage. Their juice splashed on my garments, and stained all my clothes.'" - Isaiah 63:1-3 NET which coincides with, "And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God." - Revelation 19:13 KJV.
Just something to consider.
Also, remember that Revelation is not completely chronological from start to finish. We are given glimpses of various scenes which are chronological in and of themselves., but the scenes overlap each other.
You have a good question though and one I'd like to see answered.
Matthew chapter 24 has nothing to do with the second coming of Jesus
Wow Mathew 24 is specifically talking about the 2nd coming! You need to read it, cause surely you haven't judging from that statement.
One of the best summaries of Matt 24 I have seen. Thank you. Anxious to watch you parallel that with Rev.
MATTHEW 23 AND 24 SIMPLIFIED
In MT 23 Jesus and his disciples are talking to the scribes and Pharisees in the temple itself as to the things that were going to happen to them. He says that THEIR temple was going to be destroyed! MT 23:38. And he told them that it ALL was going to happen to THEM in their generation. MT 23:36. And it included all of Jerusalem itself. MT 23:37 It was THAT generation, those guys right there in front of him that he was talking to, that were going to experience the events he described!!! THOSE GUYS! They understood what he said. They knew what it meant.
Then, Jesus and the disciples came out and walked a ways, and then Jesus said to his disciples that THAT same temple was going to be destroyed down to the ground it was standing on. MT 24:2 They wanted to know when. He told them the same thing he told those Pharisees and scribes. But he added many more details for his disciples. He goes down through a long list of things that would occur, finally coming to completion and fulfillment with the coming of the Lord in MT 24:34 “Truly, I say to you, this generation WILL NOT PASS AWAY till all these things take place.” THAT generation did pass away, after THAT temple had already been destroyed. Recorded history proves beyond any debate that THAT VERY TEMPLE was destroyed by the Romans in 70AD, in the timing and manner that Jesus foretold! What could be more clearer? Jesus could not, and would not, make a mistake that huge! He was God in flesh!
To think that Jesus was referring to a generation more than two millennia in the future, is completely nothing his disciples would want to know, or even be able to understand! And it does gross violence to the word of God!
If Jesus was dead-on on the timing of that temple being destroyed in Jerusalem (in that generation); why couldn't He also be right on the timing of His coming? Think of it like this; Jesus did not know the precise day and hour that temple was going to be destroyed right down to the ground it was standing on. But He did know the generation. THAT one! And history records that 40 years later the temple was destroyed. So, when He foretold His coming as also being in THAT generation, why then suddenly does His not knowing the precise day and hour disqualify His prophecy?
If “this generation” in MT 23, means their generation, when Jesus was foretelling the destruction of their temple to those Pharisees and Scribes; then why does “this generation” in MT 24, not mean their generation when Jesus was speaking to His disciples about the destruction of their temple, (same one), and His coming?
The Olivet Discourse is about the 2nd Coming as well. It is not limited to 70 AD.
Wrong!
No you're wrong the Harpozo happens before Jesus return's to fight at the start of the Millennial reign...
Jesus's Bride is not meant for God's Wrath...🤨. There's No Mention of the Church past the first 4 chapter's of Revelation... The Greek Scriptures say Harpozo, meaning Caught Up...
There’s no mention of church cuz we r killed by antichrist Matthew 24:9. Jesus tells us what will happen at birthing pains
Tribulation is not God's Wrath.
Wow, he misrepresents the pretrib rapture view. He doesnt even realize that jesus was addressing jewish people. Not christians. Who ar the elect? The chosen? Old testament clearly says apple of Gods eye are the jewish people.
Elect is used over and over for believers
The elect are God's people throughout history, whether the Jews of the Old Testament or Christians.