Is Psychosis Meaningful? Trauma, Dissociation and Schizophrenia - Part II
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In the second lecture in Understanding Delusions and Hallucinations from a Trauma and Dissociation Perspective, Dr. Moskowtiz explores the meaning of ‘psychosis’ over time, and the diagnosis of schizophrenia - from its creation by Bleuler and Jung in the early 20th century to its current use - and offers a consideration of how the diagnostics of schizophrenia could be improved.
From the introduction to the lecture series:
Professor Andrew Moskowitz analyses the recent transformation of the medical understanding of madness. There has been sustained resistance, driven by cognitive psychology research and insights from the trauma and dissociation field, that challenges the orthodoxy of viewing psychosis as an organic malfunction. Against this view of madness as ‘incomprehensible’, comes the position that psychotic symptoms are not only meaningful but that their meaning must be understood for genuine healing to occur.
A playlist containing all three lectures:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=slta1...
This lecture series is partly based on the book Psychosis, Trauma and Dissociation of which, more here: www.wiley-vch.de/en?option=co...
Andrew Moskowitz, PhD, is a clinical psychologist and current Professor of Psychology and Dean of Undergraduate Programs at Touro College, Berlin. His research has a specific focus on areas of violent and psychotic behaviour, particularly in their relation to trauma and dissociation.
When you're criticised & punished for having any reaction or feelings in your family - feels like there's no escape. A lot of us grew up with severely abusive & neglectful families. The break from reality is needed when you're emotionally over extended or exhausted.
Is that how you would explain psychosis or schizophrenia?
If that is the case, then what would you say is the reason for some developing psychosis while others don't?
If I hadn't split myself I had the expression that I would be completely erased, that Sarah (me) wouldn't make it. So she needed to split in a crazy/psychotic part that could take it (she was very happy, she couldn't be hurt at all and she even was sent on a mission by god so she had "protection"). The other me- part needed to keep logic intact to think about an escape plan from my parents and to really.. monitor this.
I also felt that maybe if I myself split I'm in control of it (instead of being randomly destroyed) and that I would eventually became the original me again when I was safe.
5 years out of it and I would say that I'm still not fully Sarah as she was, I still control "her" in some way but I'm definitely not psychotic any longer and can't see how I ever could think I was on a mission from god etc, I'm just an ordinary girl and I could indeed have been hurt. But back then I felt no fear since I had that protection from god etc. But still I knew somehow back then that it was fake but I like splitted myself in tho part's. It's hard to describe but it's really a way to survive .
That's my experience too.
@@nabilc1667A traumatic event induces it. For me, I was abandoned by those closest to me (my family) when my covert narc husband of 22 years abused and discarded me.
I was “over reacting” once again and they dismissed my claims of his covert abuse (because they were also covert gaslighting abusers).
I became schizophrenic and psychotic for about 3 years. Finally educated myself and meditated a lot and came back to sanity. The people around you can psychologically murder you. Especially those closest to you. I’m doing much better going solo.
I suspect that psychosis is actually a massive extensive transference of past trauma feelings, where the feelings trigger ,present , associative sensory effect.
In other words, a massive flashback of feelings, that translates into sensory effect.
In other words, psychosis is seeing your past trauma feelings, storm your sensory , by associative effect.
(Observer mode. Suggested by the mirror)
Some kind of coping/ self relief by reassociation mechanism of the brain?
What necessity psychosis serve?
A computer can erase disturbing/ non processable data.
The human mind cannot erase disturbing /non processable trauma data. The human mind cannot impose forgetfulness.
The human mind need to reassociate all the trauma data, including intense feelings.
(Observer mode. Mirror extrapolation)
Psychosis can feature positive content which isn't talked about much, sometimes it is clearly about desires and fears, not necessarily always traumatic.
Ok I’m ready for part III lol please upload
When you're in such emotional pain that your friends & family cannot help you - and often make your pain worse by what they say to you to "try to help".
What should one do, then? As a family/friend? What would truly help?
This is all quite incredible in a good way, thank you for your excellent work. It is a thing of beauty.
thank you for this content.
How do people join studies and are these generally positive or negative experience for the participants?
Thank you for this very interesting lecture. You clearly care for patients.
Did you consider slow processing speed, rendering a person susceptible to psychosis? Particularly if stressed, bullied, dealing with complex social situations, sleep deprived, with or without dietary deficiencies or gut problems, etc..
Pushing someone constantly beyond their processing capability seems to be a problem.
Slow processing speed and an inability to process meanness, exclusion, etc. is part of it. These kids and young adults need a buddy system /kind interpreter to survive intact. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure as they say.. They need community support and to be part of a community group.
Did you also consider autism links to slow processing speed and susceptibility to psychosis. This needs to be examined as part of the puzzle.
Demand avoidance autism is a particularly interesting case of holding the self together.
It is very regrettable that psychiatrists aren't required to learn in detail about autism and to care for autistic patients as part of their practice and studies. This group is very neglected and may hold the key to understanding many mental health illnesses better.
I fear that psychiatry itself seems to be dissociated and silod and perhaps needs more cooperation between colleagues in different disciplines?
Less emphasis on drugs and more or as much emphasis on social inclusion, activities, etc. seems desperately lacking.
Psychiatrist at the coalface of activities, in the work place and at schools is needed.
10 to 15 minutes or even 30 minutes in an office doesn't cut it.
Thank you again.
I didn't think that psychosis was diagnosed in the behavior, but that it was the cognition itself, and that a person could experience their cognition warping or their senses being distorted, and know that it was probably from a chemical cause, such as hormonal shifts in the body, and without acting in a bizarre way, communicate to another person calmly that this was taking place.
From people I've known who had acute psychosis, no, they don't really know what's happening/can't explain it. It's like they woke up in a different world and their thoughts are racing so badly they can't slow down to realize something is off. They need someone else to notice.
I don't know if schizophrenia affects people differently.
Kant notwithstanding - when someone achieves maladaptive goals through the persistent manipulation of what is generally regarded as the truth, achieving what they want no matter how trivial, at any cost...is too close to the behaviour of the world's leaders to feature as any definition of psychosis. Maybe that's why it can't be defined!
Does this imply OCD, which is characterized by unwanted intrusive thoughts, is a type of dissociation
I want information about blueler psychopathology in which he said about associative looseness
It's almost criminal to deliver a lecture on this topic without mentioning RD Laing and the Divided Self
For real
Well said
the sound is terrible, so booming that I cant make out what he's saying half the time