Whether you like Tolu or not the conversation they had about black women on these Netflix shows was spot on. I love how open minded, understanding and compassionate you guys are.
Black women saw right through him season 1, and I was not surprised by his behavior season 2. He clearly does not respect women he is not attracted to. Even on a platonic level, he treats black women completely differently than other women. In season 1 he interacted with them as if they were aliens. This season he showed disdain for Tolu after he tired of pretending to be attracted to her even though she did nothing wrong. His actions disgust me.
I'm white and have been confused all of season 1 why everyone loved dom. He's literally exactly like Harry except a liar. He's also always treated black women like they don't matter or idk it's given me a weird ass vibe always. At least Harry is like heyyyy this is who I am. Dom has been pretending to be sine "sensitive smart intellectual" but then had the most basic Harry Potter convo ever and is trying to act like it was some crazy compatibility and it has nothing to do with how she looks. When it's only about how she looks.
What is with this histeria of calling out baseless accusations of prejudice twd black women of every guy who does not find attractive particular black woman ?! 1- Dom was a sweetheart in season 1 twd everyone! 2- Dom did not like Tolu, probably because she is not his type - having short hair, maybe did not like how she was dressed, or 'cause she acted too available twd him, as a fan, a teenage girl, opposite from how confident she looks in her confessionals on this show or previously in Trust. Dom likes strong women, and Tolu in this show, when within the cast - does not present as her typical self - of strong woman, but soft and naive. (which is understandable, she is 22 I think)
@@ivapetrovska9986 when are we going to stop acting like we can't see the blatant disregard and disrespect of black women on these Netflix shows? If he didn't like her hair he should have let her stay with Izzy. I never seen Dom as a sweetheart I have always and still do see him as a player who uses "I'm sensitive and paint my nails I'm really a good guy" to manipulate people into rooting for him. There's been so many incredibly attractive, smart, funny, likeable black women on this show and they are ALWAYS treated as if they're the last choice, or a back up option. Not just with shaved heads. There's literally no reason theyd be treated that way other than their skin color so to act like we can't see it is a huge issue. There's been women with different hairstyles, styles, attitudes, looks and they were all treated the same the only common denominator was skin color. Imo having a preference based on skin color is wild because its irrelevant to a relationship. Either way though no matter what the stance i don't think that I as a white woman get to tell black women how they are allowed to feel about how other black women are treated/represented/disrespected on these shows. It's easy to tell people to not be mad about something that doesn't impact you or your immediate family and their perception of themselves/confidence in themselves. I know as a teenager/young adult when you're watching all these shows and you see people who you relate to treated a certain way it can cause you to feel a way about yourself. Netflix needs to do better casting men who do not have such a specific type. At this point they're casting these women to "be inclusive" only it feels like because they're definitely not there to be treated with the value they deserve. It's not even only Dom or only Tolu. It's 99% of the men and 100% of black women on these shows and Netflix keeps letting it happen. It's not like this has happened once with one girl.
@@ivapetrovska9986 I am a black woman. If you are not also a black woman, then please do not speak over me on topics that pertain to black women. I have seen him interact with multiple women on screen of all races and it's very clear who the odd ones out are. I do not even care that he's not attracted to black women (I think we're quite lucky in that regard). His behavior on these shows that he doesn't even value black women on the same level as other women as people. From what is seen on the show, it almost seems like he doesn't even enjoy being in the presence of black women. It's extremely bizarre behavior, particularly from a black man.
Loved that conversation you guys had at the end about the casting and what the casts preferences are. Why have a diverse group of women but have men who like only either blondes or brunettes. That’s when you know it’s just virtue signalling. Very frustrating as a black woman watching so many shows. Love island over the years has improved by farrr. But damn it used to be bad before. Other shows are just horrid. Immediately I saw Tolu I knew she had no chance. Once she’s dark skin AND she’s bald. I know black men who wouldnt even date her for those reasons(self hate ofcourse) so let alone men like Harry. In real life they’d never even look twice. She’d be invisible
31:18 I don’t want to start drama for Tolú lol, but Tolú basically stated that she also thinks Dom doesn’t like black women. Which isn’t shocking the way he became so cold towards her once he saw his preference in women.
This was during a live last night where I asked her to blink if she thought he liked black women. and although it was a light hearted joke there is obviously some truth to what everyone has conclusively from his actions which all adds up and this situation was the nail in the coffin which confirmed what people have been saying about him.
I really like Dom. He seems like a sweet guy but he does remind me of the nerdy/geeky blk boys I had crushes on in high school who would never give me the time of day, despite us having a lot of common interests. It took me a long time to understand that their preference towards non blk women acts as a means to validate their geeky/nerdy/ alternative interests, positioning them away from negative blk stereotypes. I just hope his preferences have nothing to do with resisting his whole identity or fetishizing populations of women to cope with his internalized racism/prejudice/self-hatred.
100% and those same boys, now men, will say they « prefer » non black women because the black girls at their school would either « bully » them or « didn’t like nerdy boys ». It’s so annoying. I wish these men would just be honest with themselves and with us but they love to gaslight
I've had this experience with boys like this growing up but most of them eventually grew out of that behavior (and ironically tried to date me years later). Regardless, liking non-black women because it positions you away from stereotypes isn't any better than fetishizing. There's nothing genuine behind either of those two reasons. Notice how Kaz isn't getting flak. We've only seen him with white women on-sccreen, but at least he interacts with black women normally and doesn't disrespect them.
@@eauxkei702 Yeah those same guys had hit me up on fb like a decade later, asking me what I was up to as well 🤢. Either way, you are so right. Positioning and fetishizing are one of the same, but I wonder about how aware Dom is. In other words, I can’t speak to how Dom’s “preference” speaks to how he feels about his own blk-ness, negative stereotypes, self-hate, etc. I don’t want to assume anything about him given how messy editing and Netflix can be. Either way you have very valid points.
Reminds me of a Black guy I knew who was in a band with mostly white folks in a pretty white music scene (hardcore/metalcore/punk). He would avoid me in public like the *plague* as if to acknowledge me would be to acknowledge his Blackness. (And that could very well be the case. I have also seen this happen with Black loners here in Minnesota, a state where there are less Black folks and a lot of white silence and "niceness" about racism. The loners shut down their anger at racism by shutting the rest of us out). Back to my story, I think this guy only really started talking to me when white people started publicly talking about racism because of BLM. I had a really bad roommate who did something similar, where she only acknowledge my existance during white public uproar, and then would go back to her white world). I see this type of behavior among Black men and transmasculine folks way more often than Black women or transfemme folks. Almost as if folks who are socialized to be in touch with their feelings (Black women / Black femmes) tend to more often find better ways to cope with racism than our masculine counterparts. It comes off to me as centering the white gaze and white comfort. Even though I have a lot of white friends, I just don't keep white folks around if they are only kind to me. If they are unkind to Black folks who are different than me, then see ya later. Something tells me that Dom would be okay being with a girl who throws Black folks, especially Black women, under the bus (because he's willing to do that himself). (To be clear, nothing wrong with liking alternative or nerdy shit. I like those things, too, which is why I was hoping to be friends with/connect with this guy in the first place. But his aloofness/bad coping was not good for me.)
I appreciate your perspective on Tolu. It is so disappointing that they did not cast men who appreciate and love Tolu's beauty. Her beauty is undeniable! And she presents as witty, fun-loving, effervescent, friendly and kind! Also, her fashion sense is AMAZING! Many men would love this type of woman! Producers you MUST do better!
Your points are in point ! And this is exactly why I usually don’t watch these show because Black women get publicly overlooked on these shows - but a good friend encouraged me to watch it And I like this channel just found them n they are cool n lastly Tait Take did a review n I love her Show but yeah I usually don’t watch for that exact reason
For me, if Dom wanted to break things off with Tolu because she isn't his type whatever but it's the fact that he was so distant when he had his eyes set on someone else. They had great chemistry on that first date even if it's just platonic but he doesn't have to just completely ignore her without expressing his feelings.
Tolu should have really stayed with Izzy, even though I don't think he dates Black women either, but at least they had a fun and friendly chemistry going on, unlike Dom who looks irritated by her presence. Also, I feel like Jessica is going to hopefully watch this back in disgust and embarrassment. Like girl how you gonna talk about how important your daughter is and then fall for an F-boy like Harry who does nothing but manipulate, disrespect and make misogynistic and crude comments about women? She is setting a terrible example for her daughter.
The problem is that Dom made it seem like he liked her when he first got in the house and she liked him more than Izzy, so she obviously chose Dom, not knowing he was just using her to stay until he had the power to chose someone else. Tolu even said she would have chosen Izzy if Dom hadn't given her 100% and then 0% once he was safe from elimination. And Izzy didn't want her, he went to her after he was rejected by Micah twice. He would have left her the moment someone else showed a bit of interest in him.She was doomed either way, but I'm glad Dom is gone.
I was saying the exact same thing about Dom when he paired with Dom and then wanted to go for Alara. I said he was not into Black woman, and while he is entitled to a preference, it is a physical preference and it is shallow and superficial which means he will attract superficial and shallow relationships, he attracted Francesca and then Georgia who in my opinion have major toxic tendencies... and in order to attract that, that same toxicity has to be within him as well. This is why he is still single because he is seeking out a physical preference. I am no longer a Dom STAN... He let the fame go to his head and needs way more work on himself because showing his preference not being for black woman speaks a lot to his character Izzy would not have been much better because his type is clearly white and blonde. Thank God there are Men like Chris who exist 😍
Your page came across my recommendations during the last episode of perfect match. Ive been binge watching your page for the last couple of days (ultimatum and now perfect match) . I already enjoyed yall humor, relationship and pov BUT today made me fall in love with you both on your perspective with Tolu experience and how casting hasn't been doing black and or asian, people of color justice. How yall are able to see beyond your own experiences and validate others is rare now days. Thank you! And continue to create and share with us 💜 sent with much love 💕
honestly im glad that Steven took Alara because they are so cute together and a perfect match and Dom should just leave them alone or leave because he is the villain at this point.
19:55 I personally think by this point Tolu knows Dom is playin' games and knows he wants Allara. Dom also knows Tolu is aware but it hasn't been verbalized by any of them. So Tolu is '' Cockblocking " by keeping Allara in her couple and picking a date for herself. Dom is emoting cuz he wants to say something but can't bring himself to do it since he can't go on a date with Allara atm and still wants a spot in the villa. I think Tolu is like '' Well if u want to play games then F it '' and Dom is basically trapped between playing the nice guy for the game or be actually nice and honest by revealing himself in a vulnerable position. If he had made the 2nd choice I think the experience would have been diff for him.
It's bc these men aren't going to rule out blk women in the interview cause how it will look and they want to be on the show. Then the producers are WILLFULLY ignorant and take people at their word. I'm sure there are white ppl on production who also miss these dynamics but I feel like with so many people behind the scenes and there ARE blk ppl on the team and the public has been very loud about their distain for these dynamics so saying for production to say they didn't know just isn't going to cut it
No, I think he totally switched on Tolu, he said that Tolu couldn't have ticked any more of her boxes if she tried and during their second date he literally just killed the mood and shut it down. I respect his honesty, but hated the delivery
AGAIN, I stand by my comments, that Dom was doing a kindness to Tolu by keeping her in the house. Most black women can clock that Dom is not into us. He should’ve just said, I’m going to match so you can stay.
Another comment mentions he said she checked all his boxes, which I vaguely remember. So his biggest issue is maybe communicating? I dont think hes a bad dude, but Tolu felt whiplash and imo that seems reasonable from what we were shown
I agree with all but the first comment of him doing it out of kindness. She still had izzy as an option then then when the power shifted, it was "I helped you stay"....she had the power and he played with it. I admit she should've known better.
The thing I don’t understand is how come Tolu didn’t see that he wasn’t into her. She kept saying it was such a great date but he never reciprocated those words (at least in the edit).
Can we be realistic here ? Tolu is possibly the least attractive lady on that show & its NOT because of her skin colour Put her next to Lauren from LIB Beyoncé Alicia Keys Angela Basset Nia Long Meagan Good Melinda THTH Regina Hall .. I can go on and on Dom needed a match though so yes he played the game & sent her on a date when he was able to
I love those 12 last minutes , it just brought more perspectives to the conversation and with the comments. I hope to see more about it on other episodes and I cannot wait to see your comments on the Brazil one!! Than you for those good news! And all the hard work on it. I'm also curious what make Dom wants to come back on a show he won (whatever the prize was) and where we cast based on a pool of Netflix "contestants". The pool of possibilities is not as big as when people try to cast on Too Hot to Handle or LIB for an upcoming season as their first Netflix show. It does not allow necessarily a variety of opportunities to bring people who have different preferences types (romantic, platonic or even friendship).
I’m brazilian, I’ve just found you guys reacting ultimatum and because of you I started to Watch the show. I cam’t wait to see you reacting brazilian’s edition.
I love ya’lls commentary! Good stuff. Love that you guys are aware and taking in these comments and becoming more conscious of the world while watching trashy tv too! 😭
My God, I needed someone to react to this because the men this season are the absolute worst! All of them but Kaz so far are shit. Starting with Harry and Dom, absolutely hate them both. Love the girls friendship for the most part too!
Vanessa was filming her tv series NCIS Hawaii. Thats why 😅. Dom is giving the worst energy like a petulant child it was cringe to watch. 😢 Tolu deserves better✅️
When black men go on these shows they have access to women they don't normally have access to they jump at the opportunity. Then when they get their feelings hurt black women have to put them back together again.
Love Your reviews and energy ! 💜 Membriash became my favorite channel this month 🎆 I enjoy your natural and easygoing vibe, and I agree with the most of your opinions.
You will be so disappointed in Kaz .. because Netflix actually cast 100% terrible men. It's frustrating to watch, cause Perfect Match could be entertaining, if the men would be even remotely okay.
Everyone knows Dom isn’t attracted to Black Women & he shouldn’t have pretended he was into her to break up her +Izzy so that he could stay in the house. I’m glad she called him out.
Hot take, I think Dom felt demeaned by Tolu in the kissing competition. I guess I have a hard time believing he’s totally not attracted to Tolu, that’s insane. They’re all the hottest people that most people have ever seen.
I feel that tolú culture played a role in her reactions much like with Xanthi not wanting to kiss the guys😅 well I'm nor Nigerian, but I emote and squeal sometimes too and kissing is awkward asf in this context, but just take it on the chin. It can be improved 😉
Tolu was kicking herself about letting Izzy go but she was his second choice - he was more interested in Micah but Micah turned him Down . Dom n her had a wonderful date - I don’t doubt that , but I was suspicious because it was very clear how he was completely not interested in Black women during the first season of the show so I was surprised that he showed any interest in Tolu . Kaz, stated the two women he was interested in when he came on the show didn’t include Tolu . Everyone has a right to like who they like but I wish the producers n casting directors if this show cast men who are genuinely interested in black women. And have at least of these men be also Black . That would be refreshing . Black women on these shows often get regulated too the pretty women that everyone ignores .and that sucks also . That had two different blonde women cast but one black women one black man . Do better . I hope Tulu finds axman worthy of her .
Dom doesn’t like black women, which is his choice. But he knows the optics of that on TV will receive backlash, so he resents Tolu for it. Men like Dom are a problem - it’s okay if he doesn’t like her, but don’t hate her for it
I want to take a moment to explain something real quick about this Dom and Tolu thing. When you have a preference for something that means that you like two things, but you just prefer one over the other. In Dom's case, this is not a preference because he does not like black women at all. He only likes white women. So that is not a preference, that is just straight up self-hate and we need to start labeling it as such 💯
I feel like Dom met Harry and he wants to be just like him. You guys called it by saying he was playing hard to get but he did it wrong bc he doesn't know how he's not that guy. He's trying to rebrand by taking away wheat makes him liked? It just makes me think yeah he's got a big head he wants to be like Harry he just wants to get more famous so it doesn't matter if he alienated his core audience cause he'll still get laid hell still get sponsorships and opportunities and that's what he's about now. End rant 🙄🙄
No, I think Dom wanted to rebrand because he felt foolish being played by 2 women in the previous season. He forgot that his loyalty and sweetness were exactly why he was adored by the public.
I think harry is a bad example in this case because the context of the show. It is his job, being messy gets him attention and that clout makes him rich and successful. So if playing the villian and having that persona is whats garnered you the life style/financial freedom that most people strive for its harder to stop. With that being said I think assuming people are going to do the wrong thing because they have before isnt fair. Yea, he has a track record and obviously people are going to judge him which is fine. When hes going to therapy, working on it, and people can see hes trying to be different but im ediately accuse that behaviour as an act/manipulation its gotta feel horrible. Id imagine hes like im trying, no one believes me. Everyone sees me as this horrible person no matter what so why am I even putting in all this effort to be better when not given the room to be better. I think when hes saying hes trying to be better and serious he means that. Hes clearly having inner turmoil. Ive always hated him. After watching the last episodes though i was reflecting on why i dont believe him and realized that it's probably that mindset that perpetuates the same behavior in him. Its gotta be so painful to hace such a huge audience all against you even if youre trying/working on yourself. Its less painful to play the role everyone is accusing you of so atleast it feels like its a character everyone hates and not you. Idk. Breyton or whatever his name was i think ia actually just a shitty person. Harry though i think has deep rooted issues and shouldnt have been platformed in the first olace because of all i mwntioned above. However, i think harry is a good person and has the potential to change if the pressure to entertain/expectation to fail wasnt so engrained by what probably to hime feels like the world judging.
I agree with you on Bryton, and Harry has a pretty big shift in episode 5, not sure if youve seen it. I appreciate your comment. We might come back to this in episode 6 (which weve yet to film)
Yea i also feel like the type of black women they bring on the show dont make sense. Last season it was two real estate agents, this season its someone from the truth (also lets be honest, she doesnt have the look or vibe of the other contestants). Like its just setting them up for failure on a show like this.
@@aisharedux781 I also was completely shocked at the Tolu not having the vibe/look comment. Typically I wouldn't rate/compare people but for the sake of this argument Tolu is the most beautiful woman there. Her face card couldn't decline if she tried. Her personality/style/loyalty to the other women is BY FAR above the rest as well. I'm genuinely so confused by this comment and others on this video cuz I feel like based on peoples opinions of her we cannot be watching the same show.
How can you guys stand Tolu? 😂 oh man she’s awful. 🤦🏻♀️ Sooooo narcissistic. She has a very good façade I admit but she is all about her 100% and I think she’s quite toxic. I’m also including what I saw from her on The Trust.
I didn't watch the trust but in this I love her. I think she's straight forward to the point while also being vulnerable which I feel like a lot of people can't do. I have been so impressed by the way she has handled situations while being emotional. As well as maintaining good relationships/being supportive of the girls. I'm curious what you're seeing that's aggressive. I'm only 3 minutes in so maybe they bring attention to it as well. Maybe I missed something or maybe we are just interpreting her differently. Idk but I was genuinely shocked to read this comment.
@@cmbda8353 I was hoping I was wrong and I missed something and this wasn't being brought into their comment section which has been free of these people up until now that I've seen atleast. Unfortunately though there's quite a few comments on this video that really brought some people out of the woodwork it seems. Id love to know how they justify to themselves the assumption that they feel like she's gunna attack them through the TV though when she's done absolutely nothing to imply aggression at all.
OMG thanks for referencing my comment at 27:40!
I feel heard :)
Also, I love ya'lls mindset
you got my subscribe.
I love how Tolu called Dom out and didn't let him turn things on her. Absolutely a gem
Whether you like Tolu or not the conversation they had about black women on these Netflix shows was spot on. I love how open minded, understanding and compassionate you guys are.
I don't even think its possible not to like her 😅
Black women saw right through him season 1, and I was not surprised by his behavior season 2. He clearly does not respect women he is not attracted to. Even on a platonic level, he treats black women completely differently than other women. In season 1 he interacted with them as if they were aliens. This season he showed disdain for Tolu after he tired of pretending to be attracted to her even though she did nothing wrong. His actions disgust me.
I'm white and have been confused all of season 1 why everyone loved dom. He's literally exactly like Harry except a liar. He's also always treated black women like they don't matter or idk it's given me a weird ass vibe always. At least Harry is like heyyyy this is who I am. Dom has been pretending to be sine "sensitive smart intellectual" but then had the most basic Harry Potter convo ever and is trying to act like it was some crazy compatibility and it has nothing to do with how she looks. When it's only about how she looks.
What is with this histeria of calling out baseless accusations of prejudice twd black women of every guy who does not find attractive particular black woman ?!
1- Dom was a sweetheart in season 1 twd everyone!
2- Dom did not like Tolu, probably because she is not his type - having short hair, maybe did not like how she was dressed, or 'cause she acted too available twd him, as a fan, a teenage girl, opposite from how confident she looks in her confessionals on this show or previously in Trust.
Dom likes strong women, and Tolu in this show, when within the cast - does not present as her typical self - of strong woman, but soft and naive. (which is understandable, she is 22 I think)
@@ivapetrovska9986 when are we going to stop acting like we can't see the blatant disregard and disrespect of black women on these Netflix shows? If he didn't like her hair he should have let her stay with Izzy. I never seen Dom as a sweetheart I have always and still do see him as a player who uses "I'm sensitive and paint my nails I'm really a good guy" to manipulate people into rooting for him. There's been so many incredibly attractive, smart, funny, likeable black women on this show and they are ALWAYS treated as if they're the last choice, or a back up option. Not just with shaved heads. There's literally no reason theyd be treated that way other than their skin color so to act like we can't see it is a huge issue. There's been women with different hairstyles, styles, attitudes, looks and they were all treated the same the only common denominator was skin color. Imo having a preference based on skin color is wild because its irrelevant to a relationship. Either way though no matter what the stance i don't think that I as a white woman get to tell black women how they are allowed to feel about how other black women are treated/represented/disrespected on these shows. It's easy to tell people to not be mad about something that doesn't impact you or your immediate family and their perception of themselves/confidence in themselves. I know as a teenager/young adult when you're watching all these shows and you see people who you relate to treated a certain way it can cause you to feel a way about yourself. Netflix needs to do better casting men who do not have such a specific type. At this point they're casting these women to "be inclusive" only it feels like because they're definitely not there to be treated with the value they deserve. It's not even only Dom or only Tolu. It's 99% of the men and 100% of black women on these shows and Netflix keeps letting it happen. It's not like this has happened once with one girl.
@@ivapetrovska9986 I am a black woman. If you are not also a black woman, then please do not speak over me on topics that pertain to black women. I have seen him interact with multiple women on screen of all races and it's very clear who the odd ones out are. I do not even care that he's not attracted to black women (I think we're quite lucky in that regard). His behavior on these shows that he doesn't even value black women on the same level as other women as people. From what is seen on the show, it almost seems like he doesn't even enjoy being in the presence of black women. It's extremely bizarre behavior, particularly from a black man.
@@ivapetrovska9986bruh alara was coming on so strong so that doesn’t make sense…
the way you legitimately take others opinions into consideration and interact with your audience is amazing and I respect yall so much
Loved that conversation you guys had at the end about the casting and what the casts preferences are. Why have a diverse group of women but have men who like only either blondes or brunettes. That’s when you know it’s just virtue signalling. Very frustrating as a black woman watching so many shows. Love island over the years has improved by farrr. But damn it used to be bad before. Other shows are just horrid. Immediately I saw Tolu I knew she had no chance. Once she’s dark skin AND she’s bald. I know black men who wouldnt even date her for those reasons(self hate ofcourse) so let alone men like Harry. In real life they’d never even look twice. She’d be invisible
The conversation was only made possible by paraphrasing commenters! Im glad you felt we did a good job with it
31:18 I don’t want to start drama for Tolú lol, but Tolú basically stated that she also thinks Dom doesn’t like black women. Which isn’t shocking the way he became so cold towards her once he saw his preference in women.
This was during a live last night where I asked her to blink if she thought he liked black women. and although it was a light hearted joke there is obviously some truth to what everyone has conclusively from his actions which all adds up and this situation was the nail in the coffin which confirmed what people have been saying about him.
I really like Dom. He seems like a sweet guy but he does remind me of the nerdy/geeky blk boys I had crushes on in high school who would never give me the time of day, despite us having a lot of common interests. It took me a long time to understand that their preference towards non blk women acts as a means to validate their geeky/nerdy/ alternative interests, positioning them away from negative blk stereotypes. I just hope his preferences have nothing to do with resisting his whole identity or fetishizing populations of women to cope with his internalized racism/prejudice/self-hatred.
Well said
100% and those same boys, now men, will say they « prefer » non black women because the black girls at their school would either « bully » them or « didn’t like nerdy boys ». It’s so annoying. I wish these men would just be honest with themselves and with us but they love to gaslight
I've had this experience with boys like this growing up but most of them eventually grew out of that behavior (and ironically tried to date me years later). Regardless, liking non-black women because it positions you away from stereotypes isn't any better than fetishizing. There's nothing genuine behind either of those two reasons. Notice how Kaz isn't getting flak. We've only seen him with white women on-sccreen, but at least he interacts with black women normally and doesn't disrespect them.
@@eauxkei702 Yeah those same guys had hit me up on fb like a decade later, asking me what I was up to as well 🤢. Either way, you are so right. Positioning and fetishizing are one of the same, but I wonder about how aware Dom is. In other words, I can’t speak to how Dom’s “preference” speaks to how he feels about his own blk-ness, negative stereotypes, self-hate, etc. I don’t want to assume anything about him given how messy editing and Netflix can be. Either way you have very valid points.
Reminds me of a Black guy I knew who was in a band with mostly white folks in a pretty white music scene (hardcore/metalcore/punk). He would avoid me in public like the *plague* as if to acknowledge me would be to acknowledge his Blackness. (And that could very well be the case. I have also seen this happen with Black loners here in Minnesota, a state where there are less Black folks and a lot of white silence and "niceness" about racism. The loners shut down their anger at racism by shutting the rest of us out). Back to my story, I think this guy only really started talking to me when white people started publicly talking about racism because of BLM. I had a really bad roommate who did something similar, where she only acknowledge my existance during white public uproar, and then would go back to her white world). I see this type of behavior among Black men and transmasculine folks way more often than Black women or transfemme folks. Almost as if folks who are socialized to be in touch with their feelings (Black women / Black femmes) tend to more often find better ways to cope with racism than our masculine counterparts. It comes off to me as centering the white gaze and white comfort. Even though I have a lot of white friends, I just don't keep white folks around if they are only kind to me. If they are unkind to Black folks who are different than me, then see ya later. Something tells me that Dom would be okay being with a girl who throws Black folks, especially Black women, under the bus (because he's willing to do that himself).
(To be clear, nothing wrong with liking alternative or nerdy shit. I like those things, too, which is why I was hoping to be friends with/connect with this guy in the first place. But his aloofness/bad coping was not good for me.)
I appreciate your perspective on Tolu. It is so disappointing that they did not cast men who appreciate and love Tolu's beauty. Her beauty is undeniable! And she presents as witty, fun-loving, effervescent, friendly and kind! Also, her fashion sense is AMAZING! Many men would love this type of woman! Producers you MUST do better!
Your points are in point ! And this is exactly why I usually don’t watch these show because Black women get publicly overlooked on these shows - but a good friend encouraged me to watch it
And I like this channel just found them n they are cool n lastly Tait Take did a review n I love her Show but yeah I usually don’t watch for that exact reason
For me, if Dom wanted to break things off with Tolu because she isn't his type whatever but it's the fact that he was so distant when he had his eyes set on someone else. They had great chemistry on that first date even if it's just platonic but he doesn't have to just completely ignore her without expressing his feelings.
And then coming back to her when Stevan beat him to the punch...he literally did the same thing over again
Tolu should have really stayed with Izzy, even though I don't think he dates Black women either, but at least they had a fun and friendly chemistry going on, unlike Dom who looks irritated by her presence.
Also, I feel like Jessica is going to hopefully watch this back in disgust and embarrassment. Like girl how you gonna talk about how important your daughter is and then fall for an F-boy like Harry who does nothing but manipulate, disrespect and make misogynistic and crude comments about women? She is setting a terrible example for her daughter.
The problem is that Dom made it seem like he liked her when he first got in the house and she liked him more than Izzy, so she obviously chose Dom, not knowing he was just using her to stay until he had the power to chose someone else. Tolu even said she would have chosen Izzy if Dom hadn't given her 100% and then 0% once he was safe from elimination.
And Izzy didn't want her, he went to her after he was rejected by Micah twice. He would have left her the moment someone else showed a bit of interest in him.She was doomed either way, but I'm glad Dom is gone.
Too bad she didn't know (cuz he pretended 2 be cool) to drop him like JaNa from love island dropping coye
I was saying the exact same thing about Dom when he paired with Dom and then wanted to go for Alara. I said he was not into Black woman, and while he is entitled to a preference, it is a physical preference and it is shallow and superficial which means he will attract superficial and shallow relationships, he attracted Francesca and then Georgia who in my opinion have major toxic tendencies... and in order to attract that, that same toxicity has to be within him as well. This is why he is still single because he is seeking out a physical preference. I am no longer a Dom STAN... He let the fame go to his head and needs way more work on himself because showing his preference not being for black woman speaks a lot to his character
Izzy would not have been much better because his type is clearly white and blonde.
Thank God there are Men like Chris who exist 😍
Aah you didn’t see the next episodes re: Chris. All of these guys need to go in the bin except Stevan
Your page came across my recommendations during the last episode of perfect match. Ive been binge watching your page for the last couple of days (ultimatum and now perfect match) . I already enjoyed yall humor, relationship and pov BUT today made me fall in love with you both on your perspective with Tolu experience and how casting hasn't been doing black and or asian, people of color justice. How yall are able to see beyond your own experiences and validate others is rare now days. Thank you! And continue to create and share with us 💜 sent with much love 💕
honestly im glad that Steven took Alara because they are so cute together and a perfect match and Dom should just leave them alone or leave because he is the villain at this point.
19:55 I personally think by this point Tolu knows Dom is playin' games and knows he wants Allara. Dom also knows Tolu is aware but it hasn't been verbalized by any of them. So Tolu is '' Cockblocking " by keeping Allara in her couple and picking a date for herself. Dom is emoting cuz he wants to say something but can't bring himself to do it since he can't go on a date with Allara atm and still wants a spot in the villa. I think Tolu is like '' Well if u want to play games then F it '' and Dom is basically trapped between playing the nice guy for the game or be actually nice and honest by revealing himself in a vulnerable position. If he had made the 2nd choice I think the experience would have been diff for him.
It's bc these men aren't going to rule out blk women in the interview cause how it will look and they want to be on the show. Then the producers are WILLFULLY ignorant and take people at their word. I'm sure there are white ppl on production who also miss these dynamics but I feel like with so many people behind the scenes and there ARE blk ppl on the team and the public has been very loud about their distain for these dynamics so saying for production to say they didn't know just isn't going to cut it
No, I think he totally switched on Tolu, he said that Tolu couldn't have ticked any more of her boxes if she tried and during their second date he literally just killed the mood and shut it down. I respect his honesty, but hated the delivery
AGAIN, I stand by my comments, that Dom was doing a kindness to Tolu by keeping her in the house. Most black women can clock that Dom is not into us. He should’ve just said, I’m going to match so you can stay.
Another comment mentions he said she checked all his boxes, which I vaguely remember. So his biggest issue is maybe communicating? I dont think hes a bad dude, but Tolu felt whiplash and imo that seems reasonable from what we were shown
I agree with all but the first comment of him doing it out of kindness. She still had izzy as an option then then when the power shifted, it was "I helped you stay"....she had the power and he played with it. I admit she should've known better.
The thing I don’t understand is how come Tolu didn’t see that he wasn’t into her. She kept saying it was such a great date but he never reciprocated those words (at least in the edit).
Can we be realistic here ? Tolu is possibly the least attractive lady on that show & its NOT because of her skin colour
Put her next to Lauren from LIB Beyoncé Alicia Keys Angela Basset Nia Long Meagan Good Melinda THTH Regina Hall .. I can go on and on
Dom needed a match though so yes he played the game & sent her on a date when he was able to
@@lifestylemood That’s crazy bc I find her to be top 3 beautiful and the most striking.
Thank you! I thought I was the only one who didn’t understand the game when he explained it 😂
I love those 12 last minutes , it just brought more perspectives to the conversation and with the comments. I hope to see more about it on other episodes and I cannot wait to see your comments on the Brazil one!! Than you for those good news! And all the hard work on it.
I'm also curious what make Dom wants to come back on a show he won (whatever the prize was) and where we cast based on a pool of Netflix "contestants". The pool of possibilities is not as big as when people try to cast on Too Hot to Handle or LIB for an upcoming season as their first Netflix show. It does not allow necessarily a variety of opportunities to bring people who have different preferences types (romantic, platonic or even friendship).
i wish Dominique and Xan had paired up so they couldve been in the house a little longer
I will say it absolutely wild to be in your winning date having Mexican food and then encouraging your date to date someone else .
I’m brazilian, I’ve just found you guys reacting ultimatum and because of you I started to Watch the show. I cam’t wait to see you reacting brazilian’s edition.
5:40 I thought he knew Elys wasn’t into him. They already said they were friends outside the show. I think he was just doing her a solid.
Youre right. We talked more about this but cut it from the vid. It was clearly tactical
Feminine rage? ABSOLUTELY. there you have your 1st t-shirt idea Lol. The phrase over a rainbow unicorn.
Rainbow unicorn with blood at the end of its horn?
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I love ya’lls commentary! Good stuff. Love that you guys are aware and taking in these comments and becoming more conscious of the world while watching trashy tv too! 😭
My God, I needed someone to react to this because the men this season are the absolute worst! All of them but Kaz so far are shit. Starting with Harry and Dom, absolutely hate them both. Love the girls friendship for the most part too!
Vanessa was filming her tv series NCIS Hawaii. Thats why 😅. Dom is giving the worst energy like a petulant child it was cringe to watch. 😢 Tolu deserves better✅️
I appreciate the length of your videos/reactions.
It’s a red flag for all of that Dom n Harry are friends
I love your reaction videos ! Y’all are funny and insightful .
When black men go on these shows they have access to women they don't normally have access to they jump at the opportunity. Then when they get their feelings hurt black women have to put them back together again.
Vanessa not there cause yhis show wont end in pregnancies
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I think Jessica picked Harry cuz he has the most followers, she’s always calculated
It seems strategic, doesnt it? She did get assigned to him on the date but I think it wouldve ended up that way regardless
Love Your reviews and energy ! 💜 Membriash became my favorite channel this month 🎆
I enjoy your natural and easygoing vibe, and I agree with the most of your opinions.
U guys are my fav react channel so far for perfect match!! Great commentary
You will be so disappointed in Kaz .. because Netflix actually cast 100% terrible men. It's frustrating to watch, cause Perfect Match could be entertaining, if the men would be even remotely okay.
Everyone knows Dom isn’t attracted to Black Women & he shouldn’t have pretended he was into her to break up her +Izzy so that he could stay in the house. I’m glad she called him out.
Hot take, I think Dom felt demeaned by Tolu in the kissing competition. I guess I have a hard time believing he’s totally not attracted to Tolu, that’s insane. They’re all the hottest people that most people have ever seen.
I didnt think about the kissing competition angle to be honest. Its there to make and break couples
I feel that tolú culture played a role in her reactions much like with Xanthi not wanting to kiss the guys😅 well I'm nor Nigerian, but I emote and squeal sometimes too and kissing is awkward asf in this context, but just take it on the chin. It can be improved 😉
That’s a good point
i just binged all ur reations on PM s2 😆😆
Tolu was kicking herself about letting Izzy go but she was his second choice - he was more interested in Micah but Micah turned him
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Dom n her had a wonderful date - I don’t doubt that , but I was suspicious because it was very clear how he was completely not interested in Black women during the first season of the show so I was surprised that he showed any interest in Tolu .
Kaz, stated the two women he was interested in when he came on the show didn’t include Tolu . Everyone has a right to like who they like but I wish the producers n casting directors if this show cast men who are genuinely interested in black women. And have at least of these men be also Black . That would be refreshing . Black women on these shows often get regulated too the pretty women that everyone ignores .and that sucks also . That had two different blonde women cast but one black women one black man . Do better .
I hope Tulu finds axman worthy of her .
Dom doesn’t like black women, which is his choice. But he knows the optics of that on TV will receive backlash, so he resents Tolu for it. Men like Dom are a problem - it’s okay if he doesn’t like her, but don’t hate her for it
My husband and I just got into D&D a year ago and we're obsessed!
Its going to be one of my only times not DMing and I cannot express how giddy I am
@@membriash ahh that is exciting!!
In Don’s defense, he’s a bit cross eyed so eye contact may be difficult. 🤪 He’s such a weirdo.
Dom went live days before the show came out and said he was shown in a bad light which I feel he already knew he came off as and azz
I want to take a moment to explain something real quick about this Dom and Tolu thing. When you have a preference for something that means that you like two things, but you just prefer one over the other. In Dom's case, this is not a preference because he does not like black women at all. He only likes white women. So that is not a preference, that is just straight up self-hate and we need to start labeling it as such 💯
I love this perspective and explanation. Thank you!!
Brazil! Yaaay!
Yes; pumped for it & Love is Blind UK starts in August 🎉🎉🎉
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And there are feminine rage retreats that American women are hosting… but it costs $3000+ tho 😂
was excited for this one and yous did not dissapoint!
I feel like Dom met Harry and he wants to be just like him. You guys called it by saying he was playing hard to get but he did it wrong bc he doesn't know how he's not that guy. He's trying to rebrand by taking away wheat makes him liked? It just makes me think yeah he's got a big head he wants to be like Harry he just wants to get more famous so it doesn't matter if he alienated his core audience cause he'll still get laid hell still get sponsorships and opportunities and that's what he's about now. End rant 🙄🙄
When Harry Met Sally - nope
When Harry Met Dom 😍😍
No, I think Dom wanted to rebrand because he felt foolish being played by 2 women in the previous season.
He forgot that his loyalty and sweetness were exactly why he was adored by the public.
Is it just me or is your reaction to ep 5 of SA’s Ultimatum missing?
It is. We got copyright blocked 2 weeks after posting for some reason and have to contest it. Hoping for the best, its a bit late to do a repost
Oh no!
I think harry is a bad example in this case because the context of the show. It is his job, being messy gets him attention and that clout makes him rich and successful. So if playing the villian and having that persona is whats garnered you the life style/financial freedom that most people strive for its harder to stop.
With that being said I think assuming people are going to do the wrong thing because they have before isnt fair. Yea, he has a track record and obviously people are going to judge him which is fine. When hes going to therapy, working on it, and people can see hes trying to be different but im ediately accuse that behaviour as an act/manipulation its gotta feel horrible. Id imagine hes like im trying, no one believes me. Everyone sees me as this horrible person no matter what so why am I even putting in all this effort to be better when not given the room to be better. I think when hes saying hes trying to be better and serious he means that. Hes clearly having inner turmoil. Ive always hated him. After watching the last episodes though i was reflecting on why i dont believe him and realized that it's probably that mindset that perpetuates the same behavior in him. Its gotta be so painful to hace such a huge audience all against you even if youre trying/working on yourself. Its less painful to play the role everyone is accusing you of so atleast it feels like its a character everyone hates and not you. Idk. Breyton or whatever his name was i think ia actually just a shitty person. Harry though i think has deep rooted issues and shouldnt have been platformed in the first olace because of all i mwntioned above. However, i think harry is a good person and has the potential to change if the pressure to entertain/expectation to fail wasnt so engrained by what probably to hime feels like the world judging.
I agree with you on Bryton, and Harry has a pretty big shift in episode 5, not sure if youve seen it. I appreciate your comment. We might come back to this in episode 6 (which weve yet to film)
Yea i also feel like the type of black women they bring on the show dont make sense. Last season it was two real estate agents, this season its someone from the truth (also lets be honest, she doesnt have the look or vibe of the other contestants). Like its just setting them up for failure on a show like this.
Meaning….. they are monoracial blk women and they don’t belong around people who aren’t? Tolu not only has a vibe but she is a vibe.
I’m also trying to understand what this comment meant by Tolu not having the “look” or vibe
@@Nonchalantlyfabulous right! The girl is a model.
@@aisharedux781 I also was completely shocked at the Tolu not having the vibe/look comment. Typically I wouldn't rate/compare people but for the sake of this argument Tolu is the most beautiful woman there. Her face card couldn't decline if she tried. Her personality/style/loyalty to the other women is BY FAR above the rest as well. I'm genuinely so confused by this comment and others on this video cuz I feel like based on peoples opinions of her we cannot be watching the same show.
@@aisharedux781She’s beautiful and fit, but none of those men are dating women with buzz cuts. She definitely an alternative look to them.
How can you guys stand Tolu? 😂 oh man she’s awful. 🤦🏻♀️ Sooooo narcissistic. She has a very good façade I admit but she is all about her 100% and I think she’s quite toxic. I’m also including what I saw from her on The Trust.
People throw around the word narcissistic way too easily 🙄
I just hope you're joking cause what?!
Well she has to have confidence in herself because too many basic garden tools like u do not 😂
She has to have confidence when garden tools do not
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I don’t like tolu at all, she’s so aggressive with how she talks. I feel like she’s going to jump out of the screen and hurt me.
I didn't watch the trust but in this I love her. I think she's straight forward to the point while also being vulnerable which I feel like a lot of people can't do. I have been so impressed by the way she has handled situations while being emotional. As well as maintaining good relationships/being supportive of the girls. I'm curious what you're seeing that's aggressive. I'm only 3 minutes in so maybe they bring attention to it as well. Maybe I missed something or maybe we are just interpreting her differently. Idk but I was genuinely shocked to read this comment.
@@Valerie-co8th you KNOW why they think she's aggressive 😏
@@cmbda8353 I was hoping I was wrong and I missed something and this wasn't being brought into their comment section which has been free of these people up until now that I've seen atleast. Unfortunately though there's quite a few comments on this video that really brought some people out of the woodwork it seems. Id love to know how they justify to themselves the assumption that they feel like she's gunna attack them through the TV though when she's done absolutely nothing to imply aggression at all.
Tolu is so terrifying, I shudder at her 90lb frame and her menacing, flirtatious attitude
@@WilliamsPinch she leaves us all shook. Our shivers are timbering when she giggles 😊