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Hey MT... here is a terrible thought. If Mrs. Hart had just sunk through the bog when her purse fell in, she would have found the way out and escaped with her life.
Agatha didn't recognize the Witches Road, because it's Billy's Hex. His version of the road. He just doesn't know that he is creating it as he walks it. IMO. 🤷
@@heavyspoilers I saw your buddy say that this is actually Billy’s HEX, and he is unknowingly making things happen, much like Wanda did in Wandavision. The characters and everyone’s costumes were actually on Billy’s walls. The yellow stuff in the walls are actually the outlines of his hex. The blue when they went down the road is the same color as Billy’s magic. The reason Agatha doesn’t recognize anything is because everything is happening in Billy’s imagination, and that’s why Agatha’s snide remarks to him are saying she knows what he’s doing and isn’t slick as he thinks he is.
Something I noticed is that Jennifer survived the longest after her trail unlike Alice and Lillia who died barely a couple minutes to the next episode after their trials
Something I noticed is that Jennifer survived the longest after her trail unlike Alice and Lillia who died barely a couple minutes to the next episode after their trials
Seeing Lila's mind switch from time-to-time remined me of the Ancient One saying that she couldn't see past her own death and that "Death is what gives life meaning". It also reminded me of Kang's quote, "I don't live in a straight line, and with time it's hard not to skip to the end."
Piggy backing on the "can't see past my death" thing, Lilia tells Agatha before she dies that "when she calls you a coward, hit the deck". So I'm kinda hopeful she'll eventually come back or else how would she know this if she's dead by the tine this happens.
Interesting! ... Then how could lilia tell Agatha something beyond her death!!? If THE GREATEST-EVER SORCERER SUPREME herself and with the time infinity stone couldn't see beyond her death tho, how lilia could!!??
@@LethalTalentzi would say both season of loki were amazing And this thing with Lillia kinda reminds me of Loki time slipping to save to multiverse, but in the case of Lillia, is to save her coven
Death is resting her hand on Red/Reality but she Pointing at Green/Time with her index finger. Hella is Green, Rio is also Green, Time always leads to Death.
29:15 I think she spends a lot more time in her younger body, because she mentions to Jen that a lot of her younger years was shifting in and out, and I think it’s so beautiful that she gets the chance to live out all her lost time with her original coven. That look her teacher gives her when she realizes that she’s back to live out the time she missed is so beautiful it literally brought a tear to my eye :’)
This is it. 100%… I couldn’t verbalize what I meant other than… shes completing her cycle. And I don’t think she was willfully “blocking” her powers; I think time just required her to live out that section of her life without so that she could be lead to that very moment.
This episode felt like a beautifully written movie. Shots are even cinematic. Im sorry I didn’t know Patti Lupone until this ep I was like damn who’s this actress - she’s on point. Aubrey Plaza as Death is cherry on top. I get it now Agatha, me too, me too.
Once again, MT educates! I am not a comics reader, but absolutely LOVE MT's breakdown with their analysis of the comics along with the MCU content. The comics are at such absurd operatic levels of drama & action, there is no way they can be adapted outright.
Alice wanted to know what happened to her mother, and dies short after she did. I bet Lilia didnt truly want power, she is stuck in her trauma from the past of being unable to save her coven, so the road gives her the opportunity to save this coven instead - and shortly after she dies. That implies that its deradly to get what one wants on the road, so what do the remaining coven truly want for the last two episodes?
Billy Kaplans bedroom is full of posters and figures that are very similar to each of the trials as if he's doing exactly what Wanda did except he's created his own road. He's also always the one who finds the task of each trial. Then Agatha says he's so much like his mother like he's also unknowingly doing what she did
Agatha all along had me crying 😭😂😂😂 but I said the second episode when Agatha went down the witches road, she seemed unfamiliar with it. I was like hmm. Has she even been. And so much of the road is pulling from Billy’s actual life so did he subconsciously affect it? Lord!
i now convinced that Agatha was on the road and she knows that this is Billy's spell and not the witches round, I don't think billy is even aware to that fact just like Wanda didn't know at first in wanda vision
@nataliebrod6802 didn't Agatha say to him "if you weren't a Maximoff, this wouldn't be nearly as dramatic"? Also she did tell him the road "suits him" she probably knows it's his doing
.....pretty sure it has absolutely nothing to do with the infinity stones.... the colors are for the element associated with the type of craft, blue was for water the element for potions Red/orange was for fire the element for protection, purple was for spirit magic and yellow was for air the element for divination while the trials are coincidentally in the order we see the first few stones I believe that 100% has nothing to do with this
Am not convinced this is the case. Mainly because witches in the MCU have nothing to do with the Infinity Stones directly. Technically, ALL things in the MCU are connected to the infinity stones but you could use the same logic to say ANYTHING is connected. This random apple? CONNECTED The dog running in the background? CONNECTED The fart you can hear off-screen? CONNECTED!!!!! This dude just loves theorizing more than he loves breaking down what we have actually been shown and told. Not a fan.
@IceCold_Carter you're welcome to believe what you like that's fine all opinions are welcome, I personally believe it has nothing to do with the stones as the director said it's the elements, and as it is my opinion to believe it cannot be wrong, the same as yours,
@shekutoronka9791 without getting too far into it, it was a combination of things leading up to him, Whitney and Tommy being let go from NR. There was another woman but she doesn't collab with the Palaxy (the three have a podcast called Guardians of the Palaxy) Filip walked the week before. So it's not just MT, it was about 5 people.
They also got rid of Jessica Clemons, my comic nerd hero. All of us went with her to another channel, then new rockstars got her to come back. I watch HER videos there, but I come to Heavy Spoilers to see my beloved MT!! (And Paul, because I already loved his channel.)
@@TheoRae8289wasn’t it due to either covid or something financially ? Not just randomly firing them….a lot of companies like ESPN did the same thing due to the economy
I think they're not on the road but in Billy's hex. He said the road was just as he pictured it. I think this is how Agatha realized who he was because she HAD been on the road and this ain't it
i think it's sort of both. they are on the road, but billy is able to manipulate it due to his power as the future demiurge. that, or the road shapes itself to the most powerful witch in the coven. which would explain why it's just how billy thought it would be, but agatha seems unfamiliar. the road didn't shape itself to her this time.
This was an awesome episode. The way they intertwined all of Lilia's outburst was brilliant. I hope we get to see Deadpool interact with Rio and maybe mention Thanos. I look forward to the reaction of people who haven't had Funko Pop spoilers or seen certain RUclipsrs point it out.
When he said had she ever been on the road she looked absolutely heartbroken so I believe she has definitely done the road and it's how she lost Nicholas
@@mockingslur6945I'm starting to think so as well. Especially since he didn't know he had those types of power. Also, I wonder if that's something Lilia maybe saw in his reading
I love how many people were talking mad crap about this show before it even came out and it turned out to be one of the best stories Marvel has done in years.
The colors are 100% just for the element associated with their magic type blue for water (potions), Red/orange for fire (protection), Yellow for air (divination) Purple is for spirit magic,
Yes, the writer’s wrote it this way so that the story is connected to the rest of the universe. Every Easter egg doesn’t have a meaning in the story, per se, but works to make the story richer.
I have a theory that no witch can finish the road because at the end of the road there is death, even Rio/death herself said it "In the end all roads lead to me". The only reason Agatha could finish the road before (if she actually walked it) is because she had a relationship with Rio/death who allowed her to cross it. This time I don't think Rio will allow her to do that. I feel that Rio might do a deal with Agatha that if she let's Rio take Billy/William she will let Agatha finish the road because William was supposed to die in the car crash it was Billy who saved him, so Rio/Death is missing a body which she will take by doing that deal with Agatha but Agatha will not agree to it & try to save Billy out of guilt for what she did with Nicholas Scratch.
Oh yesh great show my issue with the episode is the salem seven seemed wasted but i understand they were setting up rio as the villain still dose not make me happy about it
Having Wanda in this show would ruin it for me. She doesn’t need to be here. The show has been great on it’s own without her presence and having Tommy would make way more sense and fit Billy’s arc way more. Plus Wanda just “died” in MoM. Pet her lie a little longer. Have Doom bring her back to make their relationship make more sense.
@@andyroth3356 lol source. it's how people are interpreting things in the episode. like how billy said that the road looked just as he imagined, after they first got there. and agatha said it suits him. manipulating reality without knowing it was literally what wanda did, that could be the tell agatha was talking about. it could also be why agatha seems unfamiliar with the road, it's not how it was for her. but it's also possible the road shapes itself to the most powerful witch, and that why it looks like billy imagined, and is unfamiliar to agatha. or it could be both. they are on the road, but billy is unconsciously manipulating it. assuming they go the rout where billy is the destined demiurge, he would have the power to alter the road. as the demiurge will control all magic, and the road is a realm of magic.
@@andyroth3356 another theory video said it but the idea seems like a stretch and doesn't quite hold up against things like the effects of the rune and his injury during Alice's trial.
I think Agatha is not familar with the road because they are not on the Witches Road. It's Billy's hex. I think the flashbacks are from the time when Agatha was on the road.
We need to see more Patti Lupone, in all things. A lesser actor would have made a hammy mess of this episode but she was absolutely magnetic throughout. A true legend of stage/screen. 🙌🏻
Fitting that Lilia was dressed as Glinda since Glinda is the one who sets Dorothy in her journey like Lilia did at the end of the trial. Also, Agatha dressed as the WWotW, the second to last obstacle for Dorothy and the oz crew. Rio is likely the wizard/man behind the curtain in this metaphor. Teen as maleficent makes sense bc they are both two things at once (fairy and witch/kaplan and maximoff) and then Jenn as the evil queen relates to her being the high priestess
I think when Billy was being a snarky teenager calling Agatha's bluff about whether or not she's really been on the road before, and telling her to "Prove it" when she said the wicked witch of west. It's a telling clue that he doesn't realize that he's the green witch and the one who created this "witches road". He romanticized the road a bit and that's why it's so "fantastical" vs the real one Agatha travelled before. She looked really hurt when he did that. Like she was thinking "I'm trying to support you, even though I know the full truth about you." This was Billy's quest all along for real, not Agatha's. His coven was with him before he even realized or 'needed' them in the way he needed them (they've been protecting him all along in a different way outside the road). I'm hoping that once his hex is broken the other witches will come back to life. He told Liliah that he would have saved Alice from Agatha if he knew then that he could. I think Agatha feels that if he's powerful enough to create this road, he's powerful enough to give her her powers back. I think that the flickering red lights on the walls of the tunnels when Liliah and Jen hid from the 7, was Wanda! She's coming!!! But the promos with Wanda in them look like she's an AI picture so that's odd. I look forward to the season finale next week!
In case you missed it (you didn’t say it and you used the previous episode clip), in this episode you can see when Lilia says « the three of swords » the scene from her point of view : Agatha standing in front of a dead three that shaped the three swords.
GO DISNEY GO!!! Another great episode of Agatha ALL Along, Billy is my favorite episode 7 and its close with episode 6, I love MARVEL comics and the MCU is next level!
I love how crazy detailed this show is. if you look at the knight of wands tarot card they use the way the knight stands holding his lance facing to the right his hands are positioned exactly like Alice's are when she hits Agatha with a blast of energy in the cabin. they really pay attention to detai over there at the mcu.
The wizard of Oz is very complicated n complex. Some would say “the good witch” wasn’t all that good and the wicked witch was also complex. Wouldnt you be upset if someone dropped a house on your sister and stole her belongings?
They're most likely using the elements of wiccan. Which are Water (blue), Fire (red and orange), Earth (green and brown), Air (yellow and white), Spirit (white or purple) If they were going to use the color of the infinity stones and their meanings then Lilia would have been green because of the way she experiences time. Remember this show can be watched by people that have no or limited knowledge of the MCU. Also the reason Billy said he already has a mother and it's not Wanda is because he can't remember anything before the crash. So the Kaplans are the only parents he knows
@wxywawjy626 True. But so far, they had a water trial for Jen. A fire trial for Alice. A spirit trial of Agatha. Lilia's trial was air. Next is the earth trial, which will be Billy's
I said I would rage if she died… but man… it was so well done, so beautifully written, such a finality to it… it made ME understand that as much as I loved her… this was the end of her path and it felt right.
This was a great overall episode but I was confused about the death reveal. She's been basically saying she's death the whole season. Same with the "am I Tommy or Billy" question. I didn't think there was confusion there. The death scene at the end was movie status though. That was great!
The reveal was for Lillia. She has been avoiding her own power because she has been traumatized by death. So death wasn't only tied to Agatha but her too.
No one on the road knows she’s death but Rio. No one ever called her death prior to this episode. That’s why everyone has bend saying in the videos tho.
Agatha and Rio were on the road together and Agatha died. Rio made it through the trials and became death to save Agatha's life. So she is not lying about the road but she isn't telling the whole story.
This is Billy's Hex. They are in the tunnels under Westview like Sharon mentioned. Agatha even clocked this at the beginning saying it suits you when he says it is everything he imagined it to be.
Totally forgot about Death & the other Entities depicted at the opening of GOTG 1 (kinda scarred by their depiction in Love & Thunder): Much appreciated, MT ✊🏾
The infinity stone theory is a reach not gonna lie which you didn't spend so much time on it. Now the thing I'm interested in is will Lilia be able to show up in other marvel properties or even save Alice by doing the trail over like she seems so useful. Her powers are by far the best we've seen in the MCU just showing how magic characters can expand the mcu.
MT, you are a freak of nature and your brain is a super-computer. I imagine you’d make for intensely fun conversations man. Thank you and phenomenal work as always!
13:10 That’s actually her teacher. It was said a few times. I believe they’re speaking Italian with a Sicilian dialect and she says “maestra(?)” meaning “teacher”. Maybe a quick google check before assuming.
Alright MT, it's looking like you may have been right about the colors of the Witches Road being connected to the Infinity Stones. By this logic, this implies that Rio will have the next trial since the iron maiden path is green and Rio was initially introduced as the green witch.
Although Billy and Rio share similarities such black heart and being a green witch, the next green trial is for Billy. As Agatha said, Rio is a visitor, she's not a witch and not part of their coven.
The best episode of the season and by far one of the best of all time! I like the swords hanging over their heads, which seams taking from the “sword of Damocles”, an old tale from ancien Sicily, which fits perfectly with Lilis origin.
Mm, I also feel that they're really pulling on Wicked (the book) as a rough parallel for Agatha's character. The book is much darker, they left the assault and domestic terrorism out of the musical. Plus, ya know, Elphaba had a kid and gave him up (mostly because she was in a coma the entire pregnancy and didn't know it was her kid.)
Love the series! Love your amazing breakdowns! Did you see that one of the first swords that fell was from "Conan the Barbarian"? I'd love to know if some of the other swords were also from famous movies!
Thanks a ton Mr. MT. ... Tried watching a NRS Breakroom style clip & it just brought me directly here. ... You're missed within those halls, but whatever, thankful to have yourself doing what you do within these ones. Best of everything to you & yours. ... Thanks to all else involved with this as well. ... The given time, efforts, & platform are indeed appreciated * Also, thinking that the witches road is just a metaphor for the life of a witch. .... This is all a hex by Billy & Agatha knew as much all along. Been thinking as much since last week and this last episode has made me believe it even more. Either way, excited to find on out. Fun little show. ... Much like the Penguin, it's been an unexpected treat. ... Happy to have em both as the dark days of Fall & Winter are settling in. - 🤘
Although it was Lilia’s trial she still confirmed that he’s the magician aka Billy which confirmed that William had died hence why Billy was able to inhabit the body. Because it was an empty vessel because William’s souls had already left. He asked if he was William or Billy because he had no memories of his life as William but also felt like there was more aka why he even questioned if he wasn’t William
William is no more. Billy is confused because imagine waking up in a stranger's body and they call you that body's name and not your's. Obviously, after some point you will have identity crisis. Furthermore, Billy has no recollection of past. He doesn't even accept Wanda being his mother because all her memory is gone. I don't think he will ever call a robot, his papa. That will be more confusing for him. I feel like Billy since heard about Wanda being evil combining with his memory loss. He assumes he was also held hostage by Wanda. Forced to play her son. Or, it's her hex that's fragmented him btw Billy and William. Probably this is why he will unknowingly bring back Wanda. Because he wants to know the truth of his identity. But I am still confused on what Lillia saw to have her put a Sigil. Because he will call himself William Kaplan and not Billy.
He calls himself William bc that’s the body he is in but he knows he is Billy. The only reason he doesn’t remember much about his past as Billy is bc when you are “reincarnated”…you are born again & will not remember your past life at all.
I love how Paul's breakdowns are all BTS and concrete stuff and MT's are full of wild (yet entertaining) theories. If MT used the "it's all connected" sound, it'd be playing on repeat in the background.
Lilia's vision showed her future glimpses of Jennifer being dubbed the high priestess and agatha representing the three of swords. Does that mean that Lilia is truly not dead if she can see the future past her death or is she really dead and her witch ability is on a different level than the ancient one and the time stone?? Any thoughts?
This episode was written so well. They have really really payed attention to every detail since episode one. They did all this knowing what they will do
I didn’t realize MT was no longer with New Rockstars. I knew I hadn’t seen him and Tommy in a while but it never clicked. I will be spending my time here now. MT is a fantastic dude and gives great breakdowns.
For a while I was wondering why they kept the tv show theme in this show when it seemed intrinsic to Wanda’s story. However, I realised when it was Billy confirmed that it relates to him as he grew up in tv shows
It's more movie theme than TV shows theme in Agatha. In the first episode though she was still in Wanda's hex so Agatha was stuck doing a crime TV show for a while
The subway remends me of the Dungeons and Dragons cartoons. They would catch glimpses of the roller coaster providing a way home but they had more important responsibilities in the realm of dungeons and dragons and never take the chance to go home (until the show finale)
@12:34 Lilia is presented as Liza Minelli, right? She's dressed up to look like Liza, RIGHT? I'm not seeing any mention of it. I haven't watched the show. It just doesn't seem interesting to me, but Ive been watching a few recaps. Liza Minelli being daughter of Judy Garland, another nod to wizard of oz. And if its been mentioned in the recaps, I apologize, I haven't watched all of them. Just a little bit here and there.
@@KeeKeeSoto I know, just asking if anyone noticed the possible easter egg. I don't watch the show, and didn't watch the recap until I seen this video.
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Hey MT... here is a terrible thought. If Mrs. Hart had just sunk through the bog when her purse fell in, she would have found the way out and escaped with her life.
Agatha didn't recognize the Witches Road, because it's Billy's Hex. His version of the road.
He just doesn't know that he is creating it as he walks it.
IMO. 🤷
@@heavyspoilers I saw your buddy say that this is actually Billy’s HEX, and he is unknowingly making things happen, much like Wanda did in Wandavision. The characters and everyone’s costumes were actually on Billy’s walls. The yellow stuff in the walls are actually the outlines of his hex. The blue when they went down the road is the same color as Billy’s magic. The reason Agatha doesn’t recognize anything is because everything is happening in Billy’s imagination, and that’s why Agatha’s snide remarks to him are saying she knows what he’s doing and isn’t slick as he thinks he is.
Something I noticed is that Jennifer survived the longest after her trail unlike Alice and Lillia who died barely a couple minutes to the next episode after their trials
Something I noticed is that Jennifer survived the longest after her trail unlike Alice and Lillia who died barely a couple minutes to the next episode after their trials
Seeing Lila's mind switch from time-to-time remined me of the Ancient One saying that she couldn't see past her own death and that "Death is what gives life meaning". It also reminded me of Kang's quote, "I don't live in a straight line, and with time it's hard not to skip to the end."
They use the same effect on Sissy Spacek’s character in Castle Rock
Piggy backing on the "can't see past my death" thing, Lilia tells Agatha before she dies that "when she calls you a coward, hit the deck". So I'm kinda hopeful she'll eventually come back or else how would she know this if she's dead by the tine this happens.
Interesting! ... Then how could lilia tell Agatha something beyond her death!!? If THE GREATEST-EVER SORCERER SUPREME herself and with the time infinity stone couldn't see beyond her death tho, how lilia could!!??
The writers for this show are very clever. This was some of the most interesting, visually striking Marvel project since Endgame.
since wandavision
I keep seeing these comments as if Loki season 2 never existed. The hype surrounding this episode is in overdrive.
@@LethalTalentz I said some of
@@LethalTalentzi would say both season of loki were amazing
And this thing with Lillia kinda reminds me of Loki time slipping to save to multiverse, but in the case of Lillia, is to save her coven
@@Mrempoleon100that’s what I was thinking
Death is resting her hand on Red/Reality but she Pointing at Green/Time with her index finger. Hella is Green, Rio is also Green, Time always leads to Death.
Nice catch
That’s exactly what I was thinking!
Mistress Patty LaPune is a true DIVA her acting just the FACE ACTING WAS AMAZING
get this woman an Emmy win for once
29:15 I think she spends a lot more time in her younger body, because she mentions to Jen that a lot of her younger years was shifting in and out, and I think it’s so beautiful that she gets the chance to live out all her lost time with her original coven. That look her teacher gives her when she realizes that she’s back to live out the time she missed is so beautiful it literally brought a tear to my eye :’)
This is it. 100%… I couldn’t verbalize what I meant other than… shes completing her cycle.
And I don’t think she was willfully “blocking” her powers; I think time just required her to live out that section of her life without so that she could be lead to that very moment.
This episode felt like a beautifully written movie. Shots are even cinematic. Im sorry I didn’t know Patti Lupone until this ep I was like damn who’s this actress - she’s on point. Aubrey Plaza as Death is cherry on top. I get it now Agatha, me too, me too.
sthu
Lilia ending in that Orange SKY place with her maestra felt like Thanos and gamora on the soul stone
YEAHHH I WAS LIKE WHATTT AMAZINGGGGG
Once again, MT educates! I am not a comics reader, but absolutely LOVE MT's breakdown with their analysis of the comics along with the MCU content. The comics are at such absurd operatic levels of drama & action, there is no way they can be adapted outright.
Not me diabolically laughing to myself at the line "OSHA non-compliant swords falling from the ceiling" while watching this at work.
I spit my water out when he said that 😂
It’s October cackling is encouraged
That definitely made me laugh out loud. 😂
Alice wanted to know what happened to her mother, and dies short after she did. I bet Lilia didnt truly want power, she is stuck in her trauma from the past of being unable to save her coven, so the road gives her the opportunity to save this coven instead - and shortly after she dies.
That implies that its deradly to get what one wants on the road, so what do the remaining coven truly want for the last two episodes?
In the Ballad of Witches, "Death in hand" is mentioned. So it was hiding in plain sight that whoever wakes the road will have death with them.
Ohhhhh that's good
Agreed, this is also borne out by the tarot showing that the Windfall is the reward but the Destination is still death.
What if the reason Agatha survived is because the Road couldn't give her what she wanted?
Billy Kaplans bedroom is full of posters and figures that are very similar to each of the trials as if he's doing exactly what Wanda did except he's created his own road. He's also always the one who finds the task of each trial. Then Agatha says he's so much like his mother like he's also unknowingly doing what she did
Agatha all along had me crying 😭😂😂😂 but I said the second episode when Agatha went down the witches road, she seemed unfamiliar with it. I was like hmm. Has she even been. And so much of the road is pulling from Billy’s actual life so did he subconsciously affect it? Lord!
i now convinced that Agatha was on the road and she knows that this is Billy's spell and not the witches round, I don't think billy is even aware to that fact just like Wanda didn't know at first in wanda vision
@nataliebrod6802 didn't Agatha say to him "if you weren't a Maximoff, this wouldn't be nearly as dramatic"? Also she did tell him the road "suits him" she probably knows it's his doing
I LOVE the idea of calling Billy, Lilia’s “nephew in the craft” 😭😭😭 that’s such a cute idea
And dang MT. You called it with the order of the infinity stones!
He did
.....pretty sure it has absolutely nothing to do with the infinity stones.... the colors are for the element associated with the type of craft, blue was for water the element for potions
Red/orange was for fire the element for protection, purple was for spirit magic and yellow was for air the element for divination while the trials are coincidentally in the order we see the first few stones I believe that 100% has nothing to do with this
Am not convinced this is the case.
Mainly because witches in the MCU have nothing to do with the Infinity Stones directly.
Technically, ALL things in the MCU are connected to the infinity stones but you could use the same logic to say ANYTHING is connected.
This random apple? CONNECTED
The dog running in the background? CONNECTED
The fart you can hear off-screen? CONNECTED!!!!!
This dude just loves theorizing more than he loves breaking down what we have actually been shown and told.
Not a fan.
@@chadwickmyers7226 All that just to be wrong…it’s an Easter egg for the infinity stones as well
@IceCold_Carter you're welcome to believe what you like that's fine all opinions are welcome, I personally believe it has nothing to do with the stones as the director said it's the elements, and as it is my opinion to believe it cannot be wrong, the same as yours,
The bill cosby apple bit got me😂😂😂
Right!!!
Yup 😂😂😂
Your Agathots have been looking forward to this video all night. Thanks MT & Paul for hiring MT after New Rockstars did him dirty!!!
What did Erik and NR do to MT
@shekutoronka9791 without getting too far into it, it was a combination of things leading up to him, Whitney and Tommy being let go from NR. There was another woman but she doesn't collab with the Palaxy (the three have a podcast called Guardians of the Palaxy)
Filip walked the week before. So it's not just MT, it was about 5 people.
They also got rid of Jessica Clemons, my comic nerd hero. All of us went with her to another channel, then new rockstars got her to come back. I watch HER videos there, but I come to Heavy Spoilers to see my beloved MT!! (And Paul, because I already loved his channel.)
@@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460If NR got Jess to come back, let’s hope they can do the same to the others
@@TheoRae8289wasn’t it due to either covid or something financially ? Not just randomly firing them….a lot of companies like ESPN did the same thing due to the economy
Dude, You're a much better fit here with Heavy Spoilers than with New Rockstars. Very nice assessment of the series man. Well done
Thanks! I think so too! It's nice to finally be trusted to cover shows like these! :)
Billy gets his wishes granted often and no-ones talking about that
ikr?!
i strongly believe that this is all Billy's spell and Agatha is the only one that knows that.
@@nataliebrod6802 I like the theory that he unconsciously created the road, but the pentagram in the teaser has to pay off somehow, so we'll see.
How?
I think they're not on the road but in Billy's hex. He said the road was just as he pictured it. I think this is how Agatha realized who he was because she HAD been on the road and this ain't it
did you come here from Emergency Awesome?
@@annaleena1975 lol i also don't think they wrong about that, i thought so too
i think it's sort of both. they are on the road, but billy is able to manipulate it due to his power as the future demiurge. that, or the road shapes itself to the most powerful witch in the coven. which would explain why it's just how billy thought it would be, but agatha seems unfamiliar. the road didn't shape itself to her this time.
@@annaleena1975 no, is there a video about this? I'll need to watch
This was an awesome episode. The way they intertwined all of Lilia's outburst was brilliant. I hope we get to see Deadpool interact with Rio and maybe mention Thanos. I look forward to the reaction of people who haven't had Funko Pop spoilers or seen certain RUclipsrs point it out.
When he said had she ever been on the road she looked absolutely heartbroken so I believe she has definitely done the road and it's how she lost Nicholas
I suspect we will see how Agatha failed at Road. Promoting her to not make the same mistake.
@@Vor567tezI think this isn’t the road and is actually Billy’s Hex
@@mockingslur6945I'm starting to think so as well. Especially since he didn't know he had those types of power. Also, I wonder if that's something Lilia maybe saw in his reading
@@schanataylor2067 watch Eric Voss’s explanation. He seems to always have insider stuff, and his explanation was really great
@@schanataylor2067 I didn’t like this show at first until I found out who Billy was. Then the show all of a sudden got great in my opinion.
That book is gonna turn into the DarkHold I just know it
I love how many people were talking mad crap about this show before it even came out and it turned out to be one of the best stories Marvel has done in years.
“…for the _Final Destination_ card, she pulls Death”.
I see that reference.
The colors are 100% just for the element associated with their magic type
blue for water (potions),
Red/orange for fire (protection),
Yellow for air (divination)
Purple is for spirit magic,
Yes, the writer’s wrote it this way so that the story is connected to the rest of the universe. Every Easter egg doesn’t have a meaning in the story, per se, but works to make the story richer.
This episode was amazing, top-notch writing!
I have a theory that no witch can finish the road because at the end of the road there is death, even Rio/death herself said it "In the end all roads lead to me". The only reason Agatha could finish the road before (if she actually walked it) is because she had a relationship with Rio/death who allowed her to cross it. This time I don't think Rio will allow her to do that. I feel that Rio might do a deal with Agatha that if she let's Rio take Billy/William she will let Agatha finish the road because William was supposed to die in the car crash it was Billy who saved him, so Rio/Death is missing a body which she will take by doing that deal with Agatha but Agatha will not agree to it & try to save Billy out of guilt for what she did with Nicholas Scratch.
Can't wait to see wanda in the final episode! RIP Lilia! She was an AMAZING character! This show is right up there with Loki
No Wanda, it'll be Tommy.
"She's not my mom"
Oh yesh great show my issue with the episode is the salem seven seemed wasted but i understand they were setting up rio as the villain still dose not make me happy about it
I do love comment spoilers
@bruceleroy02 well it's a breakdown of the episode so expect it
Having Wanda in this show would ruin it for me. She doesn’t need to be here. The show has been great on it’s own without her presence and having Tommy would make way more sense and fit Billy’s arc way more. Plus Wanda just “died” in MoM. Pet her lie a little longer. Have Doom bring her back to make their relationship make more sense.
10:20 Man the kingdom hearts clip flaired up my PTSD of never beating Maleficent 🫣🤧
In the order of the Infinity Stones! MT youre good, you called it.
You are so right! That it doesn’t count because ONLY Agatha saw her dead body. So excited for the finale!
This was possibly the best breakdown video I have seen on this episode. Thank you. Thanks for doing such a wonderful job.,
This is all Billy's HEX. He is controlling everything but unknowingly like his mother did
source?
That would be so lame
@@andyroth3356 lol source. it's how people are interpreting things in the episode. like how billy said that the road looked just as he imagined, after they first got there. and agatha said it suits him. manipulating reality without knowing it was literally what wanda did, that could be the tell agatha was talking about. it could also be why agatha seems unfamiliar with the road, it's not how it was for her.
but it's also possible the road shapes itself to the most powerful witch, and that why it looks like billy imagined, and is unfamiliar to agatha. or it could be both. they are on the road, but billy is unconsciously manipulating it. assuming they go the rout where billy is the destined demiurge, he would have the power to alter the road. as the demiurge will control all magic, and the road is a realm of magic.
@@andyroth3356 another theory video said it but the idea seems like a stretch and doesn't quite hold up against things like the effects of the rune and his injury during Alice's trial.
I think Agatha is not familar with the road because they are not on the Witches Road. It's Billy's hex. I think the flashbacks are from the time when Agatha was on the road.
We need to see more Patti Lupone, in all things. A lesser actor would have made a hammy mess of this episode but she was absolutely magnetic throughout. A true legend of stage/screen. 🙌🏻
I’m so excited about this breakdown! Banger episode!!
No so camp
This was not a breakdown, it was a lesson. Thanks MT for another great video!
Thank YOU for watching! :D
@@MasterTainment You're bad at this, and you should correct yourself when you make mistakes.
Fitting that Lilia was dressed as Glinda since Glinda is the one who sets Dorothy in her journey like Lilia did at the end of the trial. Also, Agatha dressed as the WWotW, the second to last obstacle for Dorothy and the oz crew. Rio is likely the wizard/man behind the curtain in this metaphor. Teen as maleficent makes sense bc they are both two things at once (fairy and witch/kaplan and maximoff) and then Jenn as the evil queen relates to her being the high priestess
I think when Billy was being a snarky teenager calling Agatha's bluff about whether or not she's really been on the road before, and telling her to "Prove it" when she said the wicked witch of west. It's a telling clue that he doesn't realize that he's the green witch and the one who created this "witches road". He romanticized the road a bit and that's why it's so "fantastical" vs the real one Agatha travelled before. She looked really hurt when he did that. Like she was thinking "I'm trying to support you, even though I know the full truth about you." This was Billy's quest all along for real, not Agatha's. His coven was with him before he even realized or 'needed' them in the way he needed them (they've been protecting him all along in a different way outside the road). I'm hoping that once his hex is broken the other witches will come back to life. He told Liliah that he would have saved Alice from Agatha if he knew then that he could. I think Agatha feels that if he's powerful enough to create this road, he's powerful enough to give her her powers back. I think that the flickering red lights on the walls of the tunnels when Liliah and Jen hid from the 7, was Wanda! She's coming!!! But the promos with Wanda in them look like she's an AI picture so that's odd. I look forward to the season finale next week!
Wanda will not be in any episodes
In case you missed it (you didn’t say it and you used the previous episode clip), in this episode you can see when Lilia says « the three of swords » the scene from her point of view : Agatha standing in front of a dead three that shaped the three swords.
GO DISNEY GO!!! Another great episode of Agatha ALL Along, Billy is my favorite episode 7 and its close with episode 6, I love MARVEL comics and the MCU is next level!
I love how crazy detailed this show is. if you look at the knight of wands tarot card they use the way the knight stands holding his lance facing to the right his hands are positioned exactly like Alice's are when she hits Agatha with a blast of energy in the cabin. they really pay attention to detai over there at the mcu.
I wasn't ready for the Bill Cosby Apple comment, I spit my drink out lmao 😂
The wizard of Oz is very complicated n complex. Some would say “the good witch” wasn’t all that good and the wicked witch was also complex. Wouldnt you be upset if someone dropped a house on your sister and stole her belongings?
They're most likely using the elements of wiccan. Which are Water (blue), Fire (red and orange), Earth (green and brown), Air (yellow and white), Spirit (white or purple)
If they were going to use the color of the infinity stones and their meanings then Lilia would have been green because of the way she experiences time.
Remember this show can be watched by people that have no or limited knowledge of the MCU.
Also the reason Billy said he already has a mother and it's not Wanda is because he can't remember anything before the crash. So the Kaplans are the only parents he knows
Lilia yellow because of her mind
@wxywawjy626 True. But so far, they had a water trial for Jen. A fire trial for Alice. A spirit trial of Agatha. Lilia's trial was air. Next is the earth trial, which will be Billy's
This show is such a change from recent Marvel TV shows . We'll written and layered . Great episode.
Clicked play for the Easter eggs and got a lesson from Professor MT on the gems in the process.
I took the last scene in with her mentor as them reuniting in the afterlife.
Your Agathathot reporting for duty MT
Better late than ever😂
I said I would rage if she died… but man… it was so well done, so beautifully written, such a finality to it… it made ME understand that as much as I loved her… this was the end of her path and it felt right.
Agatha's reply ... "Yes no maybe" .... malcom in the middle ... a sitcom that was heavily referenced in Wandavision
This was a great overall episode but I was confused about the death reveal. She's been basically saying she's death the whole season. Same with the "am I Tommy or Billy" question. I didn't think there was confusion there. The death scene at the end was movie status though. That was great!
The reveal was for Lillia. She has been avoiding her own power because she has been traumatized by death.
So death wasn't only tied to Agatha but her too.
He didnt say tommy or billy,he said William or Billy.
No one on the road knows she’s death but Rio. No one ever called her death prior to this episode. That’s why everyone has bend saying in the videos tho.
The speed you’re getting these episodes out is wild! Thank you!
“a BC apple” got me rolling 😂😂😂
Man what a fantastic breakdown. Great job!
AND Agatha was a Wicked Witch of WESTview
Agatha and Rio were on the road together and Agatha died. Rio made it through the trials and became death to save Agatha's life. So she is not lying about the road but she isn't telling the whole story.
That's why Rio can't kill her.
Does the road powerful enough to make you become a cosmic entity?? So that theory doesn't feel right
@@Sherry_._ Just like in Moon Knight you become the avatar of the cosmic being.
One of the best written episodes in all of Marvel’s shows to date. It should get nominated for an Emmy.
This is Billy's Hex. They are in the tunnels under Westview like Sharon mentioned. Agatha even clocked this at the beginning saying it suits you when he says it is everything he imagined it to be.
What a great episode of the MCU!
Thanks for the breakdown and for the information on Death.
Totally forgot about Death & the other Entities depicted at the opening of GOTG 1 (kinda scarred by their depiction in Love & Thunder): Much appreciated, MT ✊🏾
The infinity stone theory is a reach not gonna lie which you didn't spend so much time on it. Now the thing I'm interested in is will Lilia be able to show up in other marvel properties or even save Alice by doing the trail over like she seems so useful. Her powers are by far the best we've seen in the MCU just showing how magic characters can expand the mcu.
MT, you are a freak of nature and your brain is a super-computer. I imagine you’d make for intensely fun conversations man. Thank you and phenomenal work as always!
Love how you break stuff down man amazing always a fan! But the show is amazing so far can’t wait to see Agatha get her purple back 😂
13:10 That’s actually her teacher. It was said a few times. I believe they’re speaking Italian with a Sicilian dialect and she says “maestra(?)” meaning “teacher”. Maybe a quick google check before assuming.
That was awesome! Thanks!
it was sweet to show Lilia at the waystation with her mom before the end of the episode
Alright MT, it's looking like you may have been right about the colors of the Witches Road being connected to the Infinity Stones. By this logic, this implies that Rio will have the next trial since the iron maiden path is green and Rio was initially introduced as the green witch.
Billy’s trial, he’s the black heart of the coven, and the missing “green witch”. It was never supposed to be rio
How can Death have a trial? What?
Although Billy and Rio share similarities such black heart and being a green witch, the next green trial is for Billy. As Agatha said, Rio is a visitor, she's not a witch and not part of their coven.
The best episode of the season and by far one of the best of all time!
I like the swords hanging over their heads, which seams taking from the “sword of Damocles”, an old tale from ancien Sicily, which fits perfectly with Lilis origin.
Mm, I also feel that they're really pulling on Wicked (the book) as a rough parallel for Agatha's character. The book is much darker, they left the assault and domestic terrorism out of the musical. Plus, ya know, Elphaba had a kid and gave him up (mostly because she was in a coma the entire pregnancy and didn't know it was her kid.)
Love the series! Love your amazing breakdowns! Did you see that one of the first swords that fell was from "Conan the Barbarian"? I'd love to know if some of the other swords were also from famous movies!
Give this man a raise! Great video! Love when you narrate
Thanks a ton Mr. MT. ... Tried watching a NRS Breakroom style clip & it just brought me directly here. ... You're missed within those halls, but whatever, thankful to have yourself doing what you do within these ones.
Best of everything to you & yours. ...
Thanks to all else involved with this as well. ... The given time, efforts, & platform are indeed appreciated
* Also, thinking that the witches road is just a metaphor for the life of a witch. .... This is all a hex by Billy & Agatha knew as much all along.
Been thinking as much since last week and this last episode has made me believe it even more.
Either way, excited to find on out. Fun little show. ... Much like the Penguin, it's been an unexpected treat. ... Happy to have em both as the dark days of Fall & Winter are settling in.
- 🤘
MT!!!!!!!!!!!! Let’s go!!!! Great episode
For me the reason it will end with the green zone is mostly because the show takes a lot in The Wizard of Oz, so it has to end with the Emerald City.
Each of the countries in Wizard Of OZ were color coded too
Why is everyone forgetting that both William and Billy is sharing that body they confirm this multiple time
Although it was Lilia’s trial she still confirmed that he’s the magician aka Billy which confirmed that William had died hence why Billy was able to inhabit the body. Because it was an empty vessel because William’s souls had already left. He asked if he was William or Billy because he had no memories of his life as William but also felt like there was more aka why he even questioned if he wasn’t William
William is no more. Billy is confused because imagine waking up in a stranger's body and they call you that body's name and not your's.
Obviously, after some point you will have identity crisis.
Furthermore, Billy has no recollection of past. He doesn't even accept Wanda being his mother because all her memory is gone. I don't think he will ever call a robot, his papa. That will be more confusing for him.
I feel like Billy since heard about Wanda being evil combining with his memory loss. He assumes he was also held hostage by Wanda. Forced to play her son.
Or, it's her hex that's fragmented him btw Billy and William.
Probably this is why he will unknowingly bring back Wanda. Because he wants to know the truth of his identity.
But I am still confused on what Lillia saw to have her put a Sigil. Because he will call himself William Kaplan and not Billy.
He calls himself William bc that’s the body he is in but he knows he is Billy.
The only reason he doesn’t remember much about his past as Billy is bc when you are “reincarnated”…you are born again & will not remember your past life at all.
The absolute best breakdown every time…consistently!! Thank you!😊
I love how Paul's breakdowns are all BTS and concrete stuff and MT's are full of wild (yet entertaining) theories. If MT used the "it's all connected" sound, it'd be playing on repeat in the background.
WOW love this breakdown and how it ties to the MCU. Keep doing it MT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent breakdown!
This was the best episode so far. Lots of emotions and great writing!
Lilia's vision showed her future glimpses of Jennifer being dubbed the high priestess and agatha representing the three of swords. Does that mean that Lilia is truly not dead if she can see the future past her death or is she really dead and her witch ability is on a different level than the ancient one and the time stone?? Any thoughts?
Another MT Breakdown? I’m sat.
What an incredible episode. This show has surpassed ALL expectations!
*_MT you be on it my dude!_*
This episode was written so well. They have really really payed attention to every detail since episode one. They did all this knowing what they will do
this show has been surprisingly amazing. on top of that, it keeps getting better each week.
I didn’t realize MT was no longer with New Rockstars. I knew I hadn’t seen him and Tommy in a while but it never clicked. I will be spending my time here now. MT is a fantastic dude and gives great breakdowns.
I would argue that Maleficent isn't a witch but a dark fairy but I see what they did here
For a while I was wondering why they kept the tv show theme in this show when it seemed intrinsic to Wanda’s story. However, I realised when it was Billy confirmed that it relates to him as he grew up in tv shows
It's more movie theme than TV shows theme in Agatha. In the first episode though she was still in Wanda's hex so Agatha was stuck doing a crime TV show for a while
I love the series and I loved your breakdown!! ❤
Great job MT this was a very detailed episode and you broke it down like a pro. My favorite episode of the show so far.
We just not gonna talk about how Maleficent isn't a witch, she's a fairy? 👀
Great Breakdown MT!! As always
The subway remends me of the Dungeons and Dragons cartoons. They would catch glimpses of the roller coaster providing a way home but they had more important responsibilities in the realm of dungeons and dragons and never take the chance to go home (until the show finale)
Looking at the new costume designs for this episode makes me wonder what Alice's costume would've been had she been there
I think Jen’s dialing is so underrated!!! Billy asks her who she is and she’s so vain that she says she doesn’t want to talk about it!! 😂😂😂😂
@12:34 Lilia is presented as Liza Minelli, right? She's dressed up to look like Liza, RIGHT? I'm not seeing any mention of it. I haven't watched the show. It just doesn't seem interesting to me, but Ive been watching a few recaps. Liza Minelli being daughter of Judy Garland, another nod to wizard of oz. And if its been mentioned in the recaps, I apologize, I haven't watched all of them. Just a little bit here and there.
That was like two episodes ago.
@@KeeKeeSoto I know, just asking if anyone noticed the possible easter egg. I don't watch the show, and didn't watch the recap until I seen this video.
Dude I love your breakdowns. Awesome man.
Really good episode. Excited to see how it all ends.