It should be mentioned that the ability strength you gain for equal to health can fluctuate depending on your current health value. So, keep that in mind when using it with different frames and whatever mod set up you run with them.
I hope they fix it based on max stat only tbh. Same with the armor to energy one; I played with that on Nidus but all it takes is one fire on you and bam, half that extra energy gone. At least with health it is pretty easy on many frames to never have your health touched
I won't be able to play warframe for a while so can you test something for me? equip this arcane and place the health mote over and over. does it increase your health and power every time you put it down?
@@Edward1379swallow I did some testing with a rank 2 arcane and the strength buff will go up after picking the mote and it can go slightly further after recasting while buffed. However I can´t loop it further because I don´t get enough strength to buff the mote to a new breakpoint for more health.
@@frogov99 ah so it does work the way I thought it would, it just fails to give enough health to make it to the next stage. guess you'll need more ranks or something like growing power to give you more boosts. I'll definitely try my best to get my hands on these things to test them myself.
the 10% crit chance per hit pistol secondary is godly on very low crit chance secondaries that can hit rapidly because it is 10% ADDITIVE crit chance and not multiplicitive. Also Blast proc explosions count towards the stacks btw.
qorvex, wisp and Inaros are going to make good use of this. hell, I'm pretty sure Wisp will be able to create a feedback loop where her HP goes up which gives her more power strength and that'll enhance her health mote even further. unless this is patched you'll be able to get quite a lot of health by putting the health mote down over and over.
This is nuts! I main inaros with hidroids helmith replacing his 1 so this will really power boost me to the next level! This with his elemental sandstorm and scarab swarm getting a boost im really excited for this! Dam i miss the Og Condition Overload : (
I use it on kullervo for a free 67% strength at the start of every mission with no health shards or blessing. Pretty easy to hit 100% on collective curse
This actually works really well with my Oberon build. Maxed out it starts me just over 200%. I can finally take out Power Drift for Primed Sure Footed and not have to worry about it.
I’m so hyped for this. I love health frames even if it is probably the worst kind of defense. I’m a Grendel main with a nidus prime I still need to forma, and qorvex building as we speak. Arcane battery and this will probably be my new default arcane setup
@@Rhuowave yeah, you can run steel path with almost any frame regardless of their way of survival. It's just the loud minority that screams meta that will say something about level cap and such nonsense
Seems to me Wisp is probably the biggest winners. Also possibly Chroma because i'm not sure what hes "meta" element/build is anymore, but fire ward gives him HP and he should still love some extra power Str.
Don't forget Inaros....plus his 4 stacks damage based on both power strength and health....i put Chromas Heat aura that also buffs health....which itself gets more from power strength....or use it on Grendel for the same effect.....i luv chromas aura bc its basically 3 different abilities based on your energy color. And cold or electric lets you proc thos on wnimes when they hit you....so many different uses!!!
@@wellplayedninjas his Helminth ability is more useful than the frame at this point. I use this, Harrows chains (I use for shield tanking), wisps breach surge, and Mirage's ability on pretty much everything....I've been experimenting with Caliban's budget rhino stomp. I'm thinking of trying it on cyte-09.....kinda using it like Harrows stun.....I just can't snipe moving targets. I have a nerve issue and I shake like a crac
I just want them to make an arcane for range man. We had augmented for years and they just released not 1 but TWO more strength arcanes that nobody really wanted
So, first off this video is not meant for me. Second the examples you gave are absolutely viable. Third you are missing a detail and i'd argue a big one, ignoring low level missions and general SP, most warframes that go into higher levels of content cannot rely on health to tank, making it a problem to rely on this arcane as you'd generally want to or need to pair it with vitality, for warframes that are nuking entire tilesets they generally do not have room for vitality except maybe archon vitality (think of thermal sunder nuke builds or archon mirage) in those cases it could be a replacement for energize/madurai swapping those to bellicose/zenurik. But to call this a must use, i'd say no, it's uses as you have shown are rather limited and it takes only a minute or 2 max to charge molt augmented on most tilesets. ALSO WHY NO MENTION OF HYDROID!
People keeps saying that health tanking is not viable for higher levels... but i've started to wonder at what point "higher levels" actually is. Because I've done 90 waves of defense in the steel path and still not found it.
@@Shaderox question is what enimie, thrax heavy attack starts doing millions (can observe with harrows 4) at lvl 500, in VC this takes less then an hour. other missions any enimie dealing slash proc requires a way to deal with this as it would simply out dmg any healing, think about rolling guard. Defense scales incredibly slowly, idk why but that is how it goes, when faced again lvl 1k or higher enimies most deal into the 10s of thousands if not hundreds of thousand per hit, at that point damage reduction and health have no value, only immunity, invisability or shield gating. when it starts is always hard to say as it depends, do a disruption lvl cap and see how quick it goes south.
I'm sure somehow Trinity Prime with arcane blessing and this mod could reach 3k hp, maybe with some tauforged blue shards (5 of them give over 1k hp) and with her passive giving 50% HP based on max energy hmm
its not just that , its the fact that some frames can build up to it so fast since getting 250 kills defo takes a while and its borderline impossible in short missions. you need 2.5k hp to immedieately get 60% ability strength , with a wisp its pretty easy , and most heavy health tank warframes get this easily too
Indeed, the title of this video is nothing but a cheap, lazy and misleading clickbait. The only frame i can think of who could easily use this thing to its full potential, is Wisp. Who would have ever guessed it, honestly.
It's a mediocre arcane at best. Very specific. Even on grendel you need to sacrifice mods to get 3k health. And that when he is actually the best shield gater in the game. 😅 It's only for nidus and inaros, and both of those frames are irrelevant in the game right now.
It should be mentioned that the ability strength you gain for equal to health can fluctuate depending on your current health value. So, keep that in mind when using it with different frames and whatever mod set up you run with them.
I hope they fix it based on max stat only tbh. Same with the armor to energy one; I played with that on Nidus but all it takes is one fire on you and bam, half that extra energy gone. At least with health it is pretty easy on many frames to never have your health touched
Wisp with the health mote is another great example for this arcane. Hex arcanes are so good. I'm spamming the tank mission to get them.
Wisp might be the biggest winner for this arcane tbh.
I won't be able to play warframe for a while so can you test something for me? equip this arcane and place the health mote over and over. does it increase your health and power every time you put it down?
Add arcane crepuscular and wisp gets another 30% power strength and 3x final crit multi while invisible 🤩
@@Edward1379swallow I did some testing with a rank 2 arcane and the strength buff will go up after picking the mote and it can go slightly further after recasting while buffed. However I can´t loop it further because I don´t get enough strength to buff the mote to a new breakpoint for more health.
@@frogov99 ah so it does work the way I thought it would, it just fails to give enough health to make it to the next stage. guess you'll need more ranks or something like growing power to give you more boosts. I'll definitely try my best to get my hands on these things to test them myself.
you need exactly 3000 health points in order to max the buff
Thank you for this piece of info, my Lavos is def going to enjoy this over molt once I'm off work!! ❤️🔥✊🏽💯
@@jeffreyfornLavos enjoyers unite
Real Inaros Hours
my umbral kullervo eating a 5 michelin star meal rn
@@hateful_data I KNOW, RIGHT!?
This works pretty well if your also running aracne blessing which increases max health every time u grab a health orb
the 10% crit chance per hit pistol secondary is godly on very low crit chance secondaries that can hit rapidly because it is 10% ADDITIVE crit chance and not multiplicitive. Also Blast proc explosions count towards the stacks btw.
Kuva nukor gooooo
Chroma with Heat
"Hold my beer"
what about inaros
It works with inaros too yeah
qorvex, wisp and Inaros are going to make good use of this. hell, I'm pretty sure Wisp will be able to create a feedback loop where her HP goes up which gives her more power strength and that'll enhance her health mote even further. unless this is patched you'll be able to get quite a lot of health by putting the health mote down over and over.
It maxes at 72% power strength. So she’d only be able to do it once depending on the build
What about atlas?
chroma too
Why should it be patched? I mean it works 1-2 times until you have max strength from the arcane
Don’t forget the rock frame. Qorvex my boy.
Atlas?
Atlas?💀
Qorvex is concrete, pretty *r a d* (pun)
Inaros
@@RatBoyDunce That's sand
This is nuts!
I main inaros with hidroids helmith replacing his 1 so this will really power boost me to the next level!
This with his elemental sandstorm and scarab swarm getting a boost im really excited for this!
Dam i miss the Og Condition Overload : (
I use it on kullervo for a free 67% strength at the start of every mission with no health shards or blessing. Pretty easy to hit 100% on collective curse
Truculence as the second arcane for easy viral priming on his 2 for his 4. With the augment, the full combo kills absolutely everything
MUST USE but need 3000HP to reach 72% KEK
Most teams have wisp on it! Its a viable replacement to molt augmented
@@wellplayedninjaswhat if i dont want to be slowed down by random teammates
Really not that hard to achieve, but k
@@knayvikArcane Blessing
@@TheRagnus why would i waste 2 arcane slots when i can get the same effect with molt augmented
I’m testing this arcane on wisp right now. Dumping everything I can into health and strength. Makes for an interesting setup when using eclipse.
Don’t forget Kullervo he can get close to max with just vitality
This actually works really well with my Oberon build. Maxed out it starts me just over 200%. I can finally take out Power Drift for Primed Sure Footed and not have to worry about it.
I’m so hyped for this. I love health frames even if it is probably the worst kind of defense. I’m a Grendel main with a nidus prime I still need to forma, and qorvex building as we speak. Arcane battery and this will probably be my new default arcane setup
In 99.9% of content, health frames are great.
It's only in level cap that not having a shield can screw you over
@ yeah and I have absolutely zero interest in level cap or sitting in any one mission for multiple hours so I’m good to go.
@@Rhuowave yeah, you can run steel path with almost any frame regardless of their way of survival.
It's just the loud minority that screams meta that will say something about level cap and such nonsense
🗿 the other arcane for summoners will drop molt augmented to ngl its basically instant proc for them
Seems to me Wisp is probably the biggest winners.
Also possibly Chroma because i'm not sure what hes "meta" element/build is anymore, but fire ward gives him HP and he should still love some extra power Str.
Niche. I'll keep it in mind for small breakpoints though
Grendel Upgrade!! Much pog.
I'm planning on running the overguard one with dante
I managed to get my Chroma to 3K HP so he's able to get its full effect 😆
I need that Trinity build!👍
hehehehehehe we breaking some stuff with this
have you tested it with wisp or other warframe related health buff? looks like its still a bit buggy
chroma
My boy Chroma forgotten like usual
Don't forget Inaros....plus his 4 stacks damage based on both power strength and health....i put Chromas Heat aura that also buffs health....which itself gets more from power strength....or use it on Grendel for the same effect.....i luv chromas aura bc its basically 3 different abilities based on your energy color. And cold or electric lets you proc thos on wnimes when they hit you....so many different uses!!!
Chroma needs a soft rework like trinity and nyx SO BAD
@@wellplayedninjas his Helminth ability is more useful than the frame at this point. I use this, Harrows chains (I use for shield tanking), wisps breach surge, and Mirage's ability on pretty much everything....I've been experimenting with Caliban's budget rhino stomp. I'm thinking of trying it on cyte-09.....kinda using it like Harrows stun.....I just can't snipe moving targets. I have a nerve issue and I shake like a crac
Kullervo? Inaros? Feel like it would work for them too
think i underestimate or did math wrong seems or whatever reason i thought 3k was too high. just not playing high health frames atm lol.
I had it equipped on Inaros instant max.
I mean its pretty good if you can hit the max health
huh, so I can finally get my inaros to be felxible of my str
What are the builds you used?
I believe you need 3k hp to max the arcane’s buff
I just want them to make an arcane for range man. We had augmented for years and they just released not 1 but TWO more strength arcanes that nobody really wanted
This also works well with chroma.
would be good on chroma too
Just what I needed to know, thank you ! Great video.
Can you double stack bellicose? 144% power strength for being thicc
@@mrmarvel2484 you cant double stack any arcane
But you can use molt augmented
So, first off this video is not meant for me.
Second the examples you gave are absolutely viable.
Third you are missing a detail and i'd argue a big one, ignoring low level missions and general SP, most warframes that go into higher levels of content cannot rely on health to tank, making it a problem to rely on this arcane as you'd generally want to or need to pair it with vitality, for warframes that are nuking entire tilesets they generally do not have room for vitality except maybe archon vitality (think of thermal sunder nuke builds or archon mirage) in those cases it could be a replacement for energize/madurai swapping those to bellicose/zenurik.
But to call this a must use, i'd say no, it's uses as you have shown are rather limited and it takes only a minute or 2 max to charge molt augmented on most tilesets.
ALSO WHY NO MENTION OF HYDROID!
People keeps saying that health tanking is not viable for higher levels... but i've started to wonder at what point "higher levels" actually is. Because I've done 90 waves of defense in the steel path and still not found it.
@@Shaderox question is what enimie, thrax heavy attack starts doing millions (can observe with harrows 4) at lvl 500, in VC this takes less then an hour. other missions any enimie dealing slash proc requires a way to deal with this as it would simply out dmg any healing, think about rolling guard. Defense scales incredibly slowly, idk why but that is how it goes, when faced again lvl 1k or higher enimies most deal into the 10s of thousands if not hundreds of thousand per hit, at that point damage reduction and health have no value, only immunity, invisability or shield gating.
when it starts is always hard to say as it depends, do a disruption lvl cap and see how quick it goes south.
@@Shaderoxdefense is like the slowest possible level scaling mission type
Can it uhhh good with inaros ?
why not both?
I need this grendel build
@@tigerito6843 on my channel :)
Inaros?
I am not playing Inaros bro 😭
@@Gyhsjgj tf?? Hes good now!!!
Lavos 1 proc this? 😮
Inaros: 😔
😂
I still use him and my god its gonna be more flexible on my build cuz I dont need arcane energize and use hunter adrenaline
works with wisp too
Does it work with arcane intention?
I'm sure somehow Trinity Prime with arcane blessing and this mod could reach 3k hp, maybe with some tauforged blue shards (5 of them give over 1k hp) and with her passive giving 50% HP based on max energy hmm
but why would you spend blue shards to buff this arcane when you could just slot a red
Why use arcane blessing when you can use another strength arcane
Not sure if you noticed has was at 650 hp only
Nidus feels do much better
Inaros just starts with 72% 😂
Yeah but why would you need str on Inaros tho?
@proximityclockworkx1572 didn't say I did, just saying he has plenty HP for it to proc instantly
@@Angel-Zayas You are correct. I just don't see a point in using an Arcane slot for something that isn't useful for the frame or the loadout.
12% increase worth tho?
its not just that , its the fact that some frames can build up to it so fast since getting 250 kills defo takes a while and its borderline impossible in short missions. you need 2.5k hp to immedieately get 60% ability strength , with a wisp its pretty easy , and most heavy health tank warframes get this easily too
Still neiche but would be good on the new Trinity...i think.
Indeed, the title of this video is nothing but a cheap, lazy and misleading clickbait.
The only frame i can think of who could easily use this thing to its full potential, is Wisp.
Who would have ever guessed it, honestly.
@@jador9641you are wrong
@@marquisepixley684Prove it
It's a mediocre arcane at best. Very specific. Even on grendel you need to sacrifice mods to get 3k health. And that when he is actually the best shield gater in the game. 😅 It's only for nidus and inaros, and both of those frames are irrelevant in the game right now.
Yep the new arcanes are garbage in the fact that they are not universal