Hey guys, I've been trying this and found it to work more often than not. A crucial piece of advice that is given in this FAQ is that the 1H does not appear in the full bag method + pick ONE pattern to listen to (rare vs. common) (I was getting wildly different patterns when account for it in the full bag method, so that explains it). Amazing job! You made a whole world of difference on what was otherwise never achievable for me.
Still studying the process and have not yet attempted actual refining. Good thing you came up with this FAQ, it answered a lot of my own questions. Keep it up!
fsfsfsfsfsfffsfffffsfffsfssssssffffsfsffffsffsfssffsfsssssssffffffsfsssssssfssssfffsffssffffsfssfsffssfffsffssfssfsfssfsfsfsssfsssfffsfssfsfsssfsfsffssffffsssfsfsfsssfffssffsssssssfsfffffsffssffssfsffssfffsfsffffffsffssssfffssfffsfsssffssfsfsssssssfssssffffff Can you please tell me which one is the right pattern here? Looks like there's more than 1? I failed 4 times already last week, but don't want to give up. Thanks
First of all, this pattern is just for today, so if you read this tomorrow none of the things I write below will be applicable. You would need to read the pattern for this item again (and it may vary from today), find a spot that you think is a good bet to refine at, and do it. Anyways, here it goes. I'm no expert, but I've broken your pattern down into several parts so you can see it (it's at the very bottom of my reply). I may be wrong, but this is how I would do it: The pattern in your text there is *FFSFS* , or 3F2S like it's labeled on the chart that this youtube uploader provided. I don't really care about the chart to be honest, or the labels. I just recognize a repeating pattern with a predictable success thereafter, and that's probably it. That's how I would do it. Notice that there are 8 occurrences of the FFSFS block in your text there (and there might be more if you listened for longer), and this particular block is followed by an S - a successful refine - 6/8 times. I marked those successes with a capital S as you can see. But there are also 2/8 occurrences where the block is followed by an F. Six blocks are followed by an S, and two blocks are followed by an F. So although it's not 100%, having a system where you would succeed 6/8 times is quite promising. And remember, this pattern only works for this particular item group you're working on, and only today. What I would do here is 1) fill up my bag to full, 2) listen to the whole loop (it's probably a loop) for about 10 minutes just to make sure there are multiple blocks of FFSFS and an S is actually following them most of the time (just to confirm what we realized here), 3) pay attention to the order of the FFSFS blocks in the loop just to figure out if it matters or not (for example the first block here is followed by an S, the second block is followed by an F, the third by an S, the forth by an S, the fifth by an S, the sixth by an S, the seventh by an F, the eighth by an S; when you listen to the loop over and over again, do those successes and fails always follow the same block or are they random?), and 4) then take my chances and only refine on that FIRST S that is following every FFSFS block. If the order of the blocks is the same, you'll even know when not to refine. But if the order of the blocks is random, we can still be sure that 6/8 times in any order should give you an S. It can still fail 2/8 times and you'd need to repair your item, but that's the best bet imo. That's a 75% chance that you're actually succeed. And if the FFSFS blocks are always in the same order in the loop, then that's even better and you have close to 100% chance to successfully refine, because you'll know where the F is following the block. All the other letters/sounds inbetween the blocks are basically noise. Don't touch those. Anyways, that's how I would do it. Also, you may be wondering why I marked 2 letters after the FFSFS blocks. That is just a visual queue. Notice that the first letter is an S in 6/8 cases, but the second letter is an S only 4/8 times (only half the time basically). So if you are tempted to refine on the second letter as well, because you're just "feeling it" or for whatever reason...THINK AGAIN! Don't do it. The seconds spot only has a 50% success rate, which is horrible. Only refine on the first S following the FFSFS block, and ONLY after you listened to the loop for a while. You absolutely need to confirm if an S is following most of those blocks or not. Don't just take my word for it. You have to listen with your own ears and make sure it's the case. Anyways, good luck. fsfsfsfsfsfffsfffffsf *ffsfs Ss* sss ff *ffsfs Ff* ffsffsfss *ffsfs Ss* ssssff ff *ffsfs Ss* ssssfssssfffsffssff *ffsfs Sf* sffssfffsffssfssfsfssfsfs fsssfsssf *ffsfs Sf* sfsssfsfsffssffff sssfsfsfsssfffssffsssssssfsffff fsffssffssfsffssf *ffsfs Ff* ffffsff ssssfffssf *ffsfs Ss* ffssfsfsssssss fssssffffff
Hello, I followed all the steps of the 3 videos and found this sequence for 12 minutes. For me, it would be 3F2S the sequence that appears most, but it didn't work out. Every time I used the full backpack method and listened to 3 AHHH, I went to the item to refine and it went down, in addition to breaking a few times. Even items that passed the refining test broke when I chose the pattern. Do you write down the sequence and give ctrl +f to find the pattern? How do you do it? I followed all the right steps, but in the refining it was not working. I was trying to change the pattern and it still didn't work SSSFFSFSFSFFFSSFFSFSSSSFFFFFFFSSFFFSFSFFFSSSSFSFFFSSFSSSFSSSSSSFSSSFSSSSFSFFFSFFFFSSFSSSFFSSFFSFFFSSSFFFFFSFSSFFFSSSFFFFFFFFFSFFFSFSFSFFSFFFFFSFSSFSFFFFSFFFFFSFSSFFFFFSSFFSFFFSSFSFFFSSSSSSSFFSFSF
1- If I get a sequence with FSFFFFSSFSFFSSS can I use this subset FSF"FFFSS"FSFFSSS as a FFFSS valid sequence? Or all of the "FFF" sequences should have a "S" before the "F"s? 2- At 1:09 you show the good items candidates. If I get an item straight to +6 is it a good item? Or should I try to refine to +7 before choose it as a good item (because it can go back to +5)? I didn't get that.... =( 3- If I get a pattern on my blueeve cape, can I use this pattern in any item on my bag? If not, how do I choose the right item to refine? Great vid BTW!!
question bro, in your sample pattern, fff is not unique. there are 4 straight f and even 5 straight. how do u knw that the fff is your actual 3f2s or not?
What is the reason of sharing stress test results? For example, if I checked Piercing Staff and got passed +6, how it will help to other players? And one more question, on the prev video you are saying that some items *designed to be broken*, that is why stress test is important, but a) you are using +5 tights (not +6) for pattern search, which means this item haven't pass stress test (yet). b) you are refinning clean +0 items that means their luck is unknown, how about that they are 'bad' items actually that couldn't be refined to +10?
A. I mentioned in my previous vid that i was upgrading both items, tights for my sniper, finger for my shura. B. A finger that passed the stress test that day means that all other fingers are good to refine that day. In my previous group, if someone stress passed an item, all in the team will check the pattern then upgrade
@@redepicgames Stress test valid for one copy of item? For example, If I buy 10 Peircing Staffs and first 3 of them will broke at +4/+5, but forth will straight to +6 doest it means that stress test successfully passed? Of I failed it on first item and should done with Piercing Staff refine for today?
is there a video out there where you use the same method on items that did not pass the stress test? or will this method fail if it failed the stress test? Meaning is it failed and you used the full bag method and found the pattern fffss and you try it will it not work correctly?
Let me share something that might help people failing. Before i saw your videos i didnt know this method, Im still failing some times, but im getting used to it, thank you very much. But anyway what I used to do is buy or craft 17 itens, there is 0 chance of not even to reach +8, than safe refine with the broken ones to + 10, i made the math with over 10 itens, some of them are profitable doing this way, but others you will only break even, and if you own the oridecons it may even be counted as profit. So if you are trying this method and still didnt master it, dont fix the itens with your broken ones, jus save them for a later safe refine, this way you wont "lose" zeny.
so cmiiw, for example, Giant Gloves. i need to buy lots of GGs to stress each item to +6, but GG itself has same kind of pattern right? then once i found one, i need to find the pattern to appear at least 4 times. need to be careful of 1 hidden fail and carefully sacrifice some equip to fail. is this the trick?
Hi. Thanks for this info though I haven't tried it yet. It says here that unsynthesized items that is good for refining also works with the synthesized ones. Is it the same with different item grade? For example, full black dagger passed, then holy dagger passed too?
Still dont get the stress test. 1. Will it also reset and refresh every 6am? 2. Is it only applicable to that single item or is it applicable to all item in the same name. For ex. I +6 my AC, does it mean that only this item passed or other AC also pass automatically in the stress test?
Hi! if i got 1 orleans necklace 0 to +8 without fail, then with the method reach +10 but start broken so get +4, that item is good to continue efining? i want that accesory +15, can u give the gropu for refining? i am on the global server, thanks.
Question about the FRAME DELAY. Does this happen after you Make your bag NOT FULL and insert item back into REFINE SLOT? then watch and wait for the Time delay?
My stress test went from +4-+5 failed not broken. Tried again and got it to +6. +6-+7 failed not broken. Went on to checking the pattern. I keep getting 2f3s 4x already but i noticed every once a while i get 3f1s. So instead of following the 2f3s pattern I looked for the most consecutive fails(which is 3f) then upgraded it 1 time. From my stress test item +5 to +9 no fail after following the 3f1s. Failed once +9-+10 then followed the method again. Got it +8-+10. Dunno if this helps but thanks anyway!
yo sir, when i want to throw my 1(H) which item should i use? can i throw it into different items with different patterns? or i have to throw it to same pattern items only?
So how do you explain the situation where one char can get an item to +6 and then another char break the same type of item at 4 and become +3 broken? The stress test doesnt make sense at that point since you said you have a team to stress test and share pattern. I used an alt to stress test tights and then main as well. My alt made it to +6 but main didnt.
This is had more detail than the previous one, i got the wrong mind on the stress test. I thought if i can make a +6 on that day that mean this is my day, i got my nile's +10 when i didnt make it to +6 but i broke my rune boots when i make it to +6. Thanks for the info dude
Need help please. If my item failed the stress test, example from 7 to 6, then i should stop and resume next day, right? Then if i resumed, should i repair the broken +6? Or leave it and start from clean again? Much appreciated for the help.
I use all my stress test failed +4 and +5 for repair. For +6 broken i repair then use as sacrifice, most of the time it will just go up and down that is y i preferred clean. If you got the correct pattern, it will go smooth like in the video
If i pass stress test to +8 and then broke to +7. I tried again to +9 then broke again to +6. Is it still good candidate for +15 if i refine it tomorrow ?
if I have found a pattern, for example I refine stone buckler with the pattern of fffss (1h), and I succeed in refining stone buckler +8 and when after fffss a hidden file will appear, do I have to sacrifice the same item for hidden fail? because if the same equipment I still have to spend a lot of zeny. because in your video there was suggested the same equipment or look for equipment with the same pattern. please answerr mister.
I usually sacrifice same item, never tried sacrifing other item but i think there is no problem because a hidden fail will always happen. But i am not sure if it will disrupt the pattern, 🤣
@Red Epic Games need help. I was refining today and used the pattern 3f2s(1) pattern and it appeared 5 times. Confident enough, I started refining and started with the 3 ahhs. The first attempt was 2 success so I used another (same gear) to trigger the 1 hidden fail. When I started my second attempt, I got 3 ahhs and then the hidden fail was triggered. after the hidden trigger, i got 1 success. So the assumption there would be another success since the hidden fail was already triggered. When I refined the item again, it failed. Did I miss something? Please help
One question, does this pattern works with headgears? I tried testing the patters using full bag and I can see also 3f2s and other patterns as well. Does is worth to try? Headgears are more expensive than weapons to stress test though.
Hey bud, important question: Suppose my EOD passed the stress test and its sequence is 3f2s, once I hear 3 "AHHH", I use a luna brooch for 1H (different sequence or haven't tested its sequence), will it affect my EOD's 3f2s sequence?
Also, once I get fffss, what happens to 1h? should i go back to full bag or use the 1h in another of the same item or i can use it one a different item? Which one is ideal?
stress test method and full bag method is different and we cant combine it right? So, which one do u recommend to us? Question number 17 lots pattern is a trap.. so, how many pattern is the normal?
1. Stress test is to determine whether you will continue to do full bag 2. Full bag is to check your item's pattern 3. Continue if there's a pattern (repeating atleast 4x in any in the chart in my prev video) , do not continue to refine if full of randomness)
What if my item got the +8 straight yolo method. Without breaking it. Should i used yolo method to get plus 15 or should i follow the pattern of it? Thanks in advance
question no11.. about the synth weapon..is it mean, we can use same main eq to test the stress 0-8/9 for the synthtesis weapon? let say i have synth bill.. i just use bill clean for stress test.. and if it pass, my synth bill also will pass?
If you got the pattern for a certain item, is it applicable to other item of the same type. For example, I got the pattern to clean +0 holy dagger. Can I use the pattern for my +10 stalker's knife or +10 holy dagger?
thanks for the video. So I want to confirm 1 more thing: If I wanted to refine my current weapon (loki) to +10 but currently is +6. Can I still do stress test on it? if yes until + what is considered okay for me to go on to refine that weapon? Or this whole refining guide is only work for clean item that can +0 to +6 on stress test?
In the module that i am using, Stress test is for clean item only. Also in my experience in refining, after doing 1 successful stress test in first try(example clean loki to +6) , i can upgrade my main item (loki) without problem. As long as you got the correct pattern, it will upgrade as smooth as in my video. Having 2 consecutive fails means you need to stop
I tried using this method. at first it was successful (i make +10 sage handbook) using 3f2s. But then as time goes on, the pattern somehow breaks (?), it becomes 5fffff1s. Can this happen? Also if I tried using 3 sage diary for stress test of my sage handbook; 2 +3 repaired and 1 +6, can i still say that the stress test is successful? I dont know whether this will be okay- but I will try using this method for the whole month in January. refining twice a week. Will have a lot of question:)
Can someone explain more about the stress test? I've watched this and the last video but still didnt understand about the stress test. If i refine for example giant glove straight from +0 to +6 without fail that means i can refine that item to +10? If its fail ftom +4 to +5 just use that item for repair?
1st of all, thx a lot for sharing this method! Whatched yesterday your vids and got a +10 buster and today a +10 skull bracer (just training). I'd like to know if the pattern of a buster will be the same as a doom axe or it will change (just using those itens as example)? Thx again!!
@@patricksantosmorais5183 na verdade o método não é 100%... As vezes mesmo tendo um padrão, dá errado, mas as chances de dar certo são maiores pelo que notei...
Hi Red Epic Games, got some questions 1. IF you refine an item +4, then switch to another, can you switch back to see if it passes stress test or must it be one shot go ? 2. For the pattern, do you start checking the patterns from the start of full bag or can it be visible midway as well ? (basically you're using some portion of the pattern to refine the stress test) 3. How if you have a pattern of FFFSS then somewhere midway you have some FFFFFSS inside? Is that a trap or anyway to know which 3 F is the next 2 S ? Hope to have some clarification. I cant reload since i am from a poor family, hence i'm constantly relying on my guild members for help. I really hope this could help me.
1. Yes, as long as it is has not yet failed. 2&3: right after clicking hollg, i usually record it from start til 10 to 15mins, if i saw 2 patterns, i will not continue
@@redepicgames I really appreciate you taking the time from your busy schedule to reply me. I have tested this with 2 items today but didnt get any consistent pattern unfortunately, i will try again tomorrow. Any chance you could invite me into the group to find out which item has an easy pattern for the day? my email is 89intoxicated@gmail.com
Hello there Thanks before i can make it to +10 statue of judgement and gonna upgrade it to "statue of mother mary" It gonna becomes +8 right ? My question is does the statue of mother mary has the same patern with statue or judgement ? Pls gimme some answer thanks before Really appreciate
Same ask here. I just make +10 gakkung then updgrade to +8 malang. Can I using gakkung for stress test or it should be Malang? Ps. Sorry for my rip english
@@benedictalfons sry but i never tried doing final tier then still refine 😂😂😂 wish you all good luck 😂😂😂 what i am sure is to buy the same kind then stress test 😁
@@redepicgames hello there can u help me for this one ? S f f s f f f f f f s s f s s f f s f s s s f f s f f f f f f f s f f s s f s s f f f f s f f f s f s s s s f f f s f f s s s f f s s s s f f f s f f f s f s s s f s f f f s f s s f f f s s f s f f s f s s f s f f s s s s f f f s f f f f f f f s s f f f f s f s f s s s s s s s s f s f s s f s s s s f f s f f s f f s f f f f s s s s s f s s f f f s f s s s s f f s f f s s s f f f s f f s f f f s f s s s f f f s f s f f s f f f s f f s s f s f f f f s s s f f s f f f s s f s f s s s s f f s s f s f s s f s s f s s f s s s f s s f s f s s f f s f f s s f f f f s f f s f s f f s s s f s s s s f f s f s f f s f s s s f f s f s f f s s s s f f f f f f s f f s f f s s f s f f f f f s f s s s f s f f f s s s s s f f f f f s f s s f s s s s f f s f f s s f s f s s f f f s s f s s s f s f f f s f f f f s f f s s s f f s s f s s f f f f s s s s f f f f f s f s f f s s f s s s s s f s s f f s s f s f f s s f f f s f s s f f f s s s s s f f f s f f s s s s s s s f s f s f s s s s s f f s s f s s f f s s s s f s I passed stress test today wanna try the pattern but its hard to found the pattern Really appreciate that
I only stress test 1 item. If it fail, i will not refine that day. If my groupmate finds a good item, i will stress test it first to b sure then i will refine. If my groupmateS are making success on that specific item, sometimes i dont stress test anymore
This is a detail Faqs in ur guide thanks, Question 16,17,22 got me 2 days straight 😅😅😅, but i still not master the pattern however i got +10 malang bow, 3 +9 random item, and 5 +8 buster 🤩🤩🤩... So its really helpful just i need more patience waiting for 4x repeat not only 2x . 😁😁
What if i passed the stress test (0-8 streak) but cnt see the pattern? So i have to try again next day right? So i have to pass another stress test of that item? Or just continue searchinf for pattern? Pls help
thanks for video, increase my chance refine. as always check ur stress test and Luck everyday. dont be greedy for road +15 agad agad ahahaha. step by step lng
Question on the stress test. Is it to knowcthe good item for the day or to know if its a good item to refine. Ex: a giant gloves failed the stress test do i need to find another giant gloves to test?
I only stress test 1 item. If it fail, i will not refine that day. If my groupmate finds a good item, i will stress test it first to b sure then i will refine. If my groupmateS are making success on that specific item, sometimes i dont stress test anymore
They said it is already changed. Instead of full bag, they are sacrificing items. Also, the devs changed the refine view in order not to see the delay frame. I am still refining now and i usually stop after failing 2x straight to avoid refine rage 😁
Hi red epic I just want to let you know that Watched your videos about refining before But then stopped because the method on refining sounds bs to me. Its been a year now, ako nalang yung walang +15 So naisip ko balikan tong video na to Tho hindi na gumagana yung bag method dahil pipi na si holgre I still managed to make my first ever +15 Thanks for the guide Love you man
Another scenario. Today Im pretty sure I got the FFFSS pattern on piercing staff, managed to pull it through but there some instances that, instead of FFFSS, FFFFSS or FFFSFS is happening. Am I on the correct pattern for the day?
@@redepicgames hehe yep I did. Got it till +9 but now down to +7 broken so I stopped. So if ever I got the 3F2S pattern one of this days on piercing staff. Can I still use that pattern to make my +10 WS to +12?
Red Epic Games thanks for tips , i do refine 2 pcs haedogollum but only 1 pcs goes +10 and the other one got 2 hidden fail and failed miserably. Did this happen to you too ?
Sir tanong ko lang, take for example piercing staff na +10, tapos inup ko to staff of wizardry, same pa din bah yung pattern or ulit ako sa full bag method?
I used YOLO pattern (XD) for my mystery bow and ranger clothes and it succeed to +10 Can i still use the stress test ror these items? Or i need a fresh one? Thank you!
@@Dxco31 but its not a straight +10 From +10 crossbow (with failed and broken) to +10 mystery(yeah of course with failed and broken) same with my +10 ranger clothes
Question about Hidden fail usage: I was able to refine and item from +10 to +12 with a rare pattern of 4F2S(1H), however i didnt use the Hidden Fail afterward so ny question is does the hidden fail reset the next day or do i still need to use it on other item before i start refining? Got afraid LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@redepicgames sir, i still dont get it with that stress test. Stress test is refining equip to +8 straight, when yolo manual refining or using pattern refining (3F2S or etc)?
If example po ba nag stress test ako ng tights then walang makuhang pattern within 15mins. then nag switch ako sa another tights which is same item lng sa first tights ko, does it mean na ung pangalawang tights hopeless narin if nag fail ung first tights sa stress test? ano rin po meaning nung USE SAME ITEM OR PATTERN ? Ok lang po ba if same item pero magkaiba pattern? o magkiba ng item pero same pattern?
stress test = pass item na refine hangang +8 ffsfs yung patern of the day (FFFSS) ginamit ko after nung next 3F sa full bag method nag 2F next. ulet sa actual refine mali po ba naging patern ko? ito yung result nung paghahanap ko ssssfsfsffssssssfsfffsffsssfssfssssfsfsffffsfsfsfsssffsffssffsfsfsffsffssffsffsffsfsfffsfsfsfffsssfsssfsffssffsfs
I have sffffssssfssffssfsssfffffssfsfsssssssffsfsfffssfffffsssfsffffsfsfsfsfffffsssfsssfsffsssffsssfsffssssffsssffsfsfsffsfssssffssfffsfsssfsfsfffffsssffssffsffsfssffssssffffffsfsffsfsfffssf the 4x pattern is ffsfs. Your previous video said for the rare pattern use fffss instead. I used but got 2 consecutive fail. For this pattern what should I do?
@@acebigornia8144 I saw the fffffss but the previous video pattern 1 and pattern 2 it states Pattern 1 5F3S and Pattern 2 5F4S . It never state 5F2S anywhere
Why burn zeny without understanding the method first 😂😂😂 1. Buy clean holy avenger then refine straight to +6 without fail. 2.if you made it to plus 6,you may get the pattern to your holy avenger using full bag method then refine. 3. If u did not make the clean h.avenger to +6, do not refine your main in that day. 😂 Lastly, when you encounter 2 consecutive fails, your pattern is wrong
Thank you mister for the guide. Question : If on the same day i refine e.g. strength ring straight +3 broken, and my friend refine strength ring also straight +8, on that day strength ring passed stress test or not? Thank you.
@@redepicgames yung delay sir abo palatandaan dko kasi ma gets hehe at yung stress test na yun..pakilagyan sir ng meaning pls.. dummy equip ba yun? ano din po yung hidden fail na tinatawag? baka pd nu ko bigyan example pra ma liwanagan sana ako.. senxa na po sa abala..
@@dread8243 yung hidden fail nangyyare lng pag andun kna sa pattern part. Example 3f2s nkuha, laging may hidden fail dun sa 2success. Yung hidden fail pwedeng bago mag 2s, pedeng sa gitna ng 2s, pedeng after ng 2s
Im pretty lazy af to do those stress things and yolo refines although i understood how to do it, feels like i might be the one to get stressed af while doing it... Also you said this in the first video but the trick has actually been circulating around for a while but it doesnt seem like someones taking advantage of it like the amount of +10 weaps increasing in exchange or even +15. Players who do BH or have a massive zeny income can easily do this nonstop..
@@redepicgames thanks for the reply mate, im a warlock though and i know that +15 Orleans Necklace is actually in demand... But well maybe i will give this a go soon cus warlock equips are so damned hard relying on refined upgrades to get those additional effects, its killing me as an f2p ::(
Some people still think that pattern in refine is a myth, so they don't do this. I tested it once yesterday and got +10 on a cheap item. I don't have the guts to try on upgraded item yet.
Thank you for this FAQ sir. Yeah i think this is really legit and this might be the method that refining service guys were using before and that was like way back before episode 4.5. If this is the same method then most probably they cant fix this or devs doesnt know about this yet. I just wish that they wont be able to fix this lol. Btw sir, may i know if an enchanted and already refined equip is considered a different item. For example i got 2 slot +10mbow with enchants or +0 mbow with enchants too, will it be different from a clean no enchant +0 mbow? I want to try to +15 my mbow or a +0 mbow with good enchant but i'm not sure if it will work since its pattern might be different from a clean mbow that i will use for stress test. If it wont work i think i just better start with a clean mbow and wish for straight +8 stress test so it will be a candidate for +15 but well, i'm already good with +10 lol. Just want to know if theres a chance to +15 my +10 enchanted mbow =)
Thanks for your tips bro, i got 5pcs item +10
Wow congrats, just remember not to be greedy 😁
THIS IS JUST A SEQUEL SO BETTER WATCH THIS FIRST:
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goodluck!
Hey guys, I've been trying this and found it to work more often than not. A crucial piece of advice that is given in this FAQ is that the 1H does not appear in the full bag method + pick ONE pattern to listen to (rare vs. common) (I was getting wildly different patterns when account for it in the full bag method, so that explains it). Amazing job! You made a whole world of difference on what was otherwise never achievable for me.
Still studying the process and have not yet attempted actual refining. Good thing you came up with this FAQ, it answered a lot of my own questions. Keep it up!
The yolo method example broke my heart. That happened to me alright 😭
Joyce Gem lol
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Can you please tell me which one is the right pattern here? Looks like there's more than 1? I failed 4 times already last week, but don't want to give up. Thanks
First of all, this pattern is just for today, so if you read this tomorrow none of the things I write below will be applicable. You would need to read the pattern for this item again (and it may vary from today), find a spot that you think is a good bet to refine at, and do it. Anyways, here it goes. I'm no expert, but I've broken your pattern down into several parts so you can see it (it's at the very bottom of my reply). I may be wrong, but this is how I would do it:
The pattern in your text there is *FFSFS* , or 3F2S like it's labeled on the chart that this youtube uploader provided. I don't really care about the chart to be honest, or the labels. I just recognize a repeating pattern with a predictable success thereafter, and that's probably it. That's how I would do it. Notice that there are 8 occurrences of the FFSFS block in your text there (and there might be more if you listened for longer), and this particular block is followed by an S - a successful refine - 6/8 times. I marked those successes with a capital S as you can see. But there are also 2/8 occurrences where the block is followed by an F. Six blocks are followed by an S, and two blocks are followed by an F. So although it's not 100%, having a system where you would succeed 6/8 times is quite promising. And remember, this pattern only works for this particular item group you're working on, and only today.
What I would do here is 1) fill up my bag to full, 2) listen to the whole loop (it's probably a loop) for about 10 minutes just to make sure there are multiple blocks of FFSFS and an S is actually following them most of the time (just to confirm what we realized here), 3) pay attention to the order of the FFSFS blocks in the loop just to figure out if it matters or not (for example the first block here is followed by an S, the second block is followed by an F, the third by an S, the forth by an S, the fifth by an S, the sixth by an S, the seventh by an F, the eighth by an S; when you listen to the loop over and over again, do those successes and fails always follow the same block or are they random?), and 4) then take my chances and only refine on that FIRST S that is following every FFSFS block. If the order of the blocks is the same, you'll even know when not to refine. But if the order of the blocks is random, we can still be sure that 6/8 times in any order should give you an S. It can still fail 2/8 times and you'd need to repair your item, but that's the best bet imo. That's a 75% chance that you're actually succeed. And if the FFSFS blocks are always in the same order in the loop, then that's even better and you have close to 100% chance to successfully refine, because you'll know where the F is following the block. All the other letters/sounds inbetween the blocks are basically noise. Don't touch those. Anyways, that's how I would do it.
Also, you may be wondering why I marked 2 letters after the FFSFS blocks. That is just a visual queue. Notice that the first letter is an S in 6/8 cases, but the second letter is an S only 4/8 times (only half the time basically). So if you are tempted to refine on the second letter as well, because you're just "feeling it" or for whatever reason...THINK AGAIN! Don't do it. The seconds spot only has a 50% success rate, which is horrible. Only refine on the first S following the FFSFS block, and ONLY after you listened to the loop for a while. You absolutely need to confirm if an S is following most of those blocks or not. Don't just take my word for it. You have to listen with your own ears and make sure it's the case. Anyways, good luck.
fsfsfsfsfsfffsfffffsf *ffsfs Ss* sss
ff *ffsfs Ff* ffsffsfss *ffsfs Ss* ssssff
ff *ffsfs Ss* ssssfssssfffsffssff
*ffsfs Sf* sffssfffsffssfssfsfssfsfs
fsssfsssf *ffsfs Sf* sfsssfsfsffssffff
sssfsfsfsssfffssffsssssssfsffff
fsffssffssfsffssf *ffsfs Ff* ffffsff
ssssfffssf *ffsfs Ss* ffssfsfsssssss
fssssffffff
Hello, I followed all the steps of the 3 videos and found this sequence for 12 minutes. For me, it would be 3F2S the sequence that appears most, but it didn't work out. Every time I used the full backpack method and listened to 3 AHHH, I went to the item to refine and it went down, in addition to breaking a few times. Even items that passed the refining test broke when I chose the pattern.
Do you write down the sequence and give ctrl +f to find the pattern? How do you do it? I followed all the right steps, but in the refining it was not working. I was trying to change the pattern and it still didn't work
SSSFFSFSFSFFFSSFFSFSSSSFFFFFFFSSFFFSFSFFFSSSSFSFFFSSFSSSFSSSSSSFSSSFSSSSFSFFFSFFFFSSFSSSFFSSFFSFFFSSSFFFFFSFSSFFFSSSFFFFFFFFFSFFFSFSFSFFSFFFFFSFSSFSFFFFSFFFFFSFSSFFFFFSSFFSFFFSSFSFFFSSSSSSSFFSFSF
1- If I get a sequence with FSFFFFSSFSFFSSS can I use this subset FSF"FFFSS"FSFFSSS as a FFFSS valid sequence? Or all of the "FFF" sequences should have a "S" before the "F"s?
2- At 1:09 you show the good items candidates. If I get an item straight to +6 is it a good item? Or should I try to refine to +7 before choose it as a good item (because it can go back to +5)? I didn't get that.... =(
3- If I get a pattern on my blueeve cape, can I use this pattern in any item on my bag? If not, how do I choose the right item to refine?
Great vid BTW!!
question bro, in your sample pattern, fff is not unique. there are 4 straight f and even 5 straight. how do u knw that the fff is your actual 3f2s or not?
What is the reason of sharing stress test results? For example, if I checked Piercing Staff and got passed +6, how it will help to other players?
And one more question, on the prev video you are saying that some items *designed to be broken*, that is why stress test is important, but
a) you are using +5 tights (not +6) for pattern search, which means this item haven't pass stress test (yet).
b) you are refinning clean +0 items that means their luck is unknown, how about that they are 'bad' items actually that couldn't be refined to +10?
A. I mentioned in my previous vid that i was upgrading both items, tights for my sniper, finger for my shura. B. A finger that passed the stress test that day means that all other fingers are good to refine that day. In my previous group, if someone stress passed an item, all in the team will check the pattern then upgrade
@@redepicgames Stress test valid for one copy of item? For example, If I buy 10 Peircing Staffs and first 3 of them will broke at +4/+5, but forth will straight to +6 doest it means that stress test successfully passed? Of I failed it on first item and should done with Piercing Staff refine for today?
@@redepicgames with yolo refining, sir?
is there a video out there where you use the same method on items that did not pass the stress test? or will this method fail if it failed the stress test? Meaning is it failed and you used the full bag method and found the pattern fffss and you try it will it not work correctly?
Let me share something that might help people failing. Before i saw your videos i didnt know this method, Im still failing some times, but im getting used to it, thank you very much. But anyway what I used to do is buy or craft 17 itens, there is 0 chance of not even to reach +8, than safe refine with the broken ones to + 10, i made the math with over 10 itens, some of them are profitable doing this way, but others you will only break even, and if you own the oridecons it may even be counted as profit. So if you are trying this method and still didnt master it, dont fix the itens with your broken ones, jus save them for a later safe refine, this way you wont "lose" zeny.
i think that broken equips is just for the one who pass stress test, for repair porpuse
so cmiiw, for example, Giant Gloves. i need to buy lots of GGs to stress each item to +6, but GG itself has same kind of pattern right? then once i found one, i need to find the pattern to appear at least 4 times. need to be careful of 1 hidden fail and carefully sacrifice some equip to fail.
is this the trick?
when you said try again next day, is it because of the pattern of that kind of equip or that one equip specifically?
Hi. Thanks for this info though I haven't tried it yet. It says here that unsynthesized items that is good for refining also works with the synthesized ones. Is it the same with different item grade? For example, full black dagger passed, then holy dagger passed too?
Hi not working anymore after last patch, if you refine, just stop after having 2 consecutive fails
Is it necessary do a stress test? Or try the pattern on other equip and if show 2 hidden fail i stop?
If an item is a good item and a candidate for +12 and +15. How long is it gonna be a good item? Does the stress test for an item refreshes everyday?
Still dont get the stress test.
1. Will it also reset and refresh every 6am?
2. Is it only applicable to that single item or is it applicable to all item in the same name. For ex. I +6 my AC, does it mean that only this item passed or other AC also pass automatically in the stress test?
1. Safe to say to check again the pattern after reset. 2. Other of the same kind will pass as well that is why having a group is the best
How can i discover what itens have the same patterns in the day?
Hi! if i got 1 orleans necklace 0 to +8 without fail, then with the method reach +10 but start broken so get +4, that item is good to continue efining? i want that accesory +15, can u give the gropu for refining? i am on the global server, thanks.
Hi, wanna ask, can we stress test holy dagger with fullback dagger (previous upgrade)? Same question for the other items
Yes. But i haven't tried upgrading after the patch
Question about the FRAME DELAY. Does this happen after you Make your bag NOT FULL and insert item back into REFINE SLOT? then watch and wait for the Time delay?
It just happens randomly 😂
Correct me if I was wrong. So stress test is needed to test clean equipments straight refine into +6. Am I right?
My stress test went from +4-+5 failed not broken. Tried again and got it to +6. +6-+7 failed not broken. Went on to checking the pattern. I keep getting 2f3s 4x already but i noticed every once a while i get 3f1s. So instead of following the 2f3s pattern I looked for the most consecutive fails(which is 3f) then upgraded it 1 time. From my stress test item +5 to +9 no fail after following the 3f1s. Failed once +9-+10 then followed the method again. Got it +8-+10. Dunno if this helps but thanks anyway!
yo sir, when i want to throw my 1(H) which item should i use? can i throw it into different items with different patterns? or i have to throw it to same pattern items only?
So how do you explain the situation where one char can get an item to +6 and then another char break the same type of item at 4 and become +3 broken? The stress test doesnt make sense at that point since you said you have a team to stress test and share pattern. I used an alt to stress test tights and then main as well. My alt made it to +6 but main didnt.
Maybe the pattern is incorrect and this method is not 100% chance. But still high compared to yolo 😂
@@redepicgames im wondering the same too. if one pass the stress test, then all people should be able to make +6 too
Do i have to do the stress test everyday for the same item if i cant get a pattern for that item?
Hallo sir...im from indonesia..
The method is work with equip 4th enchant?or must with plain equip?
Thx be4
Yes, my titan has fourth enchant. Just make sure to get the correct pattern
This is had more detail than the previous one, i got the wrong mind on the stress test.
I thought if i can make a +6 on that day that mean this is my day, i got my nile's +10 when i didnt make it to +6 but i broke my rune boots when i make it to +6.
Thanks for the info dude
Me too. On first trial I don't make any stress test. But it works. Today all my equipment don't pass the stress test.
Need help please. If my item failed the stress test, example from 7 to 6, then i should stop and resume next day, right? Then if i resumed, should i repair the broken +6? Or leave it and start from clean again? Much appreciated for the help.
I use all my stress test failed +4 and +5 for repair. For +6 broken i repair then use as sacrifice, most of the time it will just go up and down that is y i preferred clean. If you got the correct pattern, it will go smooth like in the video
@@redepicgames thank you so much for the reply , kind sir. I will do it like yours too.
Hi bro.. Do you have the video of stress test? I still didnt get it..
If i pass stress test to +8 and then broke to +7. I tried again to +9 then broke again to +6. Is it still good candidate for +15 if i refine it tomorrow ?
if I have found a pattern, for example I refine stone buckler with the pattern of fffss (1h), and I succeed in refining stone buckler +8 and when after fffss a hidden file will appear, do I have to sacrifice the same item for hidden fail? because if the same equipment I still have to spend a lot of zeny.
because in your video there was suggested the same equipment or look for equipment with the same pattern.
please answerr mister.
I usually sacrifice same item, never tried sacrifing other item but i think there is no problem because a hidden fail will always happen. But i am not sure if it will disrupt the pattern, 🤣
@Red Epic Games need help. I was refining today and used the pattern 3f2s(1) pattern and it appeared 5 times. Confident enough, I started refining and started with the 3 ahhs. The first attempt was 2 success so I used another (same gear) to trigger the 1 hidden fail. When I started my second attempt, I got 3 ahhs and then the hidden fail was triggered. after the hidden trigger, i got 1 success. So the assumption there would be another success since the hidden fail was already triggered. When I refined the item again, it failed.
Did I miss something? Please help
i got the same shit too... after the 2nd 3ahhs i got 1 fail 1 success then another fail
One question, does this pattern works with headgears? I tried testing the patters using full bag and I can see also 3f2s and other patterns as well. Does is worth to try? Headgears are more expensive than weapons to stress test though.
For repairable it is ok.
Hi i got a question what is a stress test how does it work
Hey bud, important question: Suppose my EOD passed the stress test and its sequence is 3f2s, once I hear 3 "AHHH", I use a luna brooch for 1H (different sequence or haven't tested its sequence), will it affect my EOD's 3f2s sequence?
Also, once I get fffss, what happens to 1h? should i go back to full bag or use the 1h in another of the same item or i can use it one a different item? Which one is ideal?
stress test method and full bag method is different and we cant combine it right? So, which one do u recommend to us?
Question number 17 lots pattern is a trap.. so, how many pattern is the normal?
1. Stress test is to determine whether you will continue to do full bag 2. Full bag is to check your item's pattern 3. Continue if there's a pattern (repeating atleast 4x in any in the chart in my prev video) , do not continue to refine if full of randomness)
What if my item got the +8 straight yolo method. Without breaking it. Should i used yolo method to get plus 15 or should i follow the pattern of it? Thanks in advance
question no11.. about the synth weapon..is it mean, we can use same main eq to test the stress 0-8/9 for the synthtesis weapon? let say i have synth bill.. i just use bill clean for stress test..
and if it pass, my synth bill also will pass?
Yes
im trying to find a pattern using full bag method. and it doesn't seems like your patterns. what should i do?
Do not refine that day
If you got the pattern for a certain item, is it applicable to other item of the same type. For example, I got the pattern to clean +0 holy dagger. Can I use the pattern for my +10 stalker's knife or +10 holy dagger?
Yes. I stress test my giantloves for my titan
Items has same chance for refine from 4 to 15? I mean there is no difference if you make it from 6-7 or 14-15?
Hi, the last time i tried after the patch i got no pattern at all. But i am still receiving some msgs that they are still getting success upgrades
thanks for the video. So I want to confirm 1 more thing:
If I wanted to refine my current weapon (loki) to +10 but currently is +6. Can I still do stress test on it? if yes until + what is considered okay for me to go on to refine that weapon?
Or this whole refining guide is only work for clean item that can +0 to +6 on stress test?
In the module that i am using, Stress test is for clean item only. Also in my experience in refining, after doing 1 successful stress test in first try(example clean loki to +6) , i can upgrade my main item (loki) without problem. As long as you got the correct pattern, it will upgrade as smooth as in my video. Having 2 consecutive fails means you need to stop
I tried using this method. at first it was successful (i make +10 sage handbook) using 3f2s. But then as time goes on, the pattern somehow breaks (?), it becomes 5fffff1s. Can this happen?
Also if I tried using 3 sage diary for stress test of my sage handbook; 2 +3 repaired and 1 +6, can i still say that the stress test is successful?
I dont know whether this will be okay- but I will try using this method for the whole month in January. refining twice a week. Will have a lot of question:)
Yes, i will stop if too much irregularities. Stress test failed once even if not broken is failed stress test
Meaning that not everyday we can refine lol
Can someone explain more about the stress test? I've watched this and the last video but still didnt understand about the stress test. If i refine for example giant glove straight from +0 to +6 without fail that means i can refine that item to +10? If its fail ftom +4 to +5 just use that item for repair?
If you passed the stress test, you may follow my previous video. I will link it and pin 😂 wait..
I keep on failing but hearing the success of others makes me wanna try it again. Haha
1st of all, thx a lot for sharing this method! Whatched yesterday your vids and got a +10 buster and today a +10 skull bracer (just training).
I'd like to know if the pattern of a buster will be the same as a doom axe or it will change (just using those itens as example)?
Thx again!!
Renan, pode me ajudar? estou a dias estudando os videos e sempre da errados os meus calculos
@@patricksantosmorais5183 na verdade o método não é 100%... As vezes mesmo tendo um padrão, dá errado, mas as chances de dar certo são maiores pelo que notei...
Hi Red Epic Games, got some questions
1. IF you refine an item +4, then switch to another, can you switch back to see if it passes stress test or must it be one shot go ?
2. For the pattern, do you start checking the patterns from the start of full bag or can it be visible midway as well ? (basically you're using some portion of the pattern to refine the stress test)
3. How if you have a pattern of FFFSS then somewhere midway you have some FFFFFSS inside? Is that a trap or anyway to know which 3 F is the next 2 S ?
Hope to have some clarification. I cant reload since i am from a poor family, hence i'm constantly relying on my guild members for help. I really hope this could help me.
1. Yes, as long as it is has not yet failed. 2&3: right after clicking hollg, i usually record it from start til 10 to 15mins, if i saw 2 patterns, i will not continue
@@redepicgames I really appreciate you taking the time from your busy schedule to reply me. I have tested this with 2 items today but didnt get any consistent pattern unfortunately, i will try again tomorrow. Any chance you could invite me into the group to find out which item has an easy pattern for the day? my email is 89intoxicated@gmail.com
are the items that pass through the stress test will be still up-gradable on the next day? or need to stress test again the item?
No. Stress test again. So it would be do unlucky if you will not be able to get the pattern
Let say I did street test a tight, is go up to +6. Does it mean all tight in this day will have some pattern?
Yes but make sure to get the correct pattern
Hello there
Thanks before i can make it to +10 statue of judgement and gonna upgrade it to "statue of mother mary"
It gonna becomes +8 right ?
My question is does the statue of mother mary has the same patern with statue or judgement ?
Pls gimme some answer thanks before
Really appreciate
Same ask here. I just make +10 gakkung then updgrade to +8 malang. Can I using gakkung for stress test or it should be Malang?
Ps. Sorry for my rip english
Perhaps get the answer before the day reset cause the pattern will change hahaha
@Red epic games
@@benedictalfons sry but i never tried doing final tier then still refine 😂😂😂 wish you all good luck 😂😂😂 what i am sure is to buy the same kind then stress test 😁
@@redepicgames hello there can u help me for this one ?
S f f s f f f f f f s s f s s f f s f s s s f f s f f f f f f f s f f s s f s s f f f f s f f f s f s s s s f f f s f f s s s f f s s s s f f f s f f f s f s s s f s f f f s f s s f f f s s f s f f s f s s f s f f s s s s f f f s f f f f f f f s s f f f f s f s f s s s s s s s s f s f s s f s s s s f f s f f s f f s f f f f s s s s s f s s f f f s f s s s s f f s f f s s s f f f s f f s f f f s f s s s f f f s f s f f s f f f s f f s s f s f f f f s s s f f s f f f s s f s f s s s s f f s s f s f s s f s s f s s f s s s f s s f s f s s f f s f f s s f f f f s f f s f s f f s s s f s s s s f f s f s f f s f s s s f f s f s f f s s s s f f f f f f s f f s f f s s f s f f f f f s f s s s f s f f f s s s s s f f f f f s f s s f s s s s f f s f f s s f s f s s f f f s s f s s s f s f f f s f f f f s f f s s s f f s s f s s f f f f s s s s f f f f f s f s f f s s f s s s s s f s s f f s s f s f f s s f f f s f s s f f f s s s s s f f f s f f s s s s s s s f s f s f s s s s s f f s s f s s f f s s s s f s
I passed stress test today wanna try the pattern but its hard to found the pattern
Really appreciate that
Amazing video. Thank you for this content and song.
How many stres test we need for 1 kind item? 1 time or several times to make sure it's good or not?
I only stress test 1 item. If it fail, i will not refine that day. If my groupmate finds a good item, i will stress test it first to b sure then i will refine. If my groupmateS are making success on that specific item, sometimes i dont stress test anymore
This is a detail Faqs in ur guide thanks,
Question 16,17,22 got me 2 days straight 😅😅😅, but i still not master the pattern however i got +10 malang bow, 3 +9 random item, and 5 +8 buster 🤩🤩🤩...
So its really helpful just i need more patience waiting for 4x repeat not only 2x . 😁😁
Why are you guys not subscribing? This guy deserves so much more subs!
What if i passed the stress test (0-8 streak) but cnt see the pattern? So i have to try again next day right? So i have to pass another stress test of that item? Or just continue searchinf for pattern? Pls help
Another stress test. That's the rule in the module 😁
What if in the pattern they have 2 or 3 pattern @5 min.. Example in my experience 3h2s always come with 4h3s?
Try next day 😁
thanks for video, increase my chance refine. as always check ur stress test and Luck everyday. dont be greedy for road +15 agad agad ahahaha. step by step lng
@red epic games does this still work after this weeks maintenance?
Question on the stress test. Is it to knowcthe good item for the day or to know if its a good item to refine. Ex: a giant gloves failed the stress test do i need to find another giant gloves to test?
I only stress test 1 item. If it fail, i will not refine that day. If my groupmate finds a good item, i will stress test it first to b sure then i will refine. If my groupmateS are making success on that specific item, sometimes i dont stress test anymore
@@redepicgames thank you.. So its the item for the day..
Hi do you know if its still working or if maintenance changed it?
They said it is already changed. Instead of full bag, they are sacrificing items. Also, the devs changed the refine view in order not to see the delay frame. I am still refining now and i usually stop after failing 2x straight to avoid refine rage 😁
Thankyouu Red Epic Games!!!
Keep on sharing!!!
Day 1 : +15 acid touch & +15 titan
Day 4 : +15EOD
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Congrats 😁
If I can stress test from +0 to +6. Does it means that every other people in the server can refine +0 to +6 that item without fail?
no, it just means that it is a good item / have a high chance of refining to +10
I subscribe after see +14 titan yolo. Is this method still work ro 2.0?
I thought it was the pattern first, then the stress test, so I should test first and then look for a pattern?
and thanks btw dude!
Hi red epic
I just want to let you know that
Watched your videos about refining before
But then stopped because the method on refining sounds bs to me.
Its been a year now, ako nalang yung walang +15
So naisip ko balikan tong video na to
Tho hindi na gumagana yung bag method dahil pipi na si holgre
I still managed to make my first ever +15
Thanks for the guide
Love you man
Another scenario. Today Im pretty sure I got the FFFSS pattern on piercing staff, managed to pull it through but there some instances that, instead of FFFSS, FFFFSS or FFFSFS is happening. Am I on the correct pattern for the day?
If it's getting random do not continue. You may risk 1 of your piercing staff since it is cheap🤣
@@redepicgames hehe yep I did. Got it till +9 but now down to +7 broken so I stopped. So if ever I got the 3F2S pattern one of this days on piercing staff. Can I still use that pattern to make my +10 WS to +12?
@@allenconstantino9097 i dont suggest you upgrade it after failing twice. In the pattern it should have a smooth upgrade
@@allenconstantino9097 if you are 100% sure of the pattern go for it
me too +9 to +7 broken dogtooth gloves
what do you mean by stress test ? let say i bought 10 xbow and only 2 pcs goes +6 straight and other goes fail does it mean the 2 pcs +6 is good eq ?
Yes, you can upgrade those 2pcs, but i dont recommend upgrading xbow if that is your ratio 🤣
Red Epic Games thanks for tips , i do refine 2 pcs haedogollum but only 1 pcs goes +10 and the other one got 2 hidden fail and failed miserably. Did this happen to you too ?
@@pimptp96 yes, sometimes 1 out of 4 for a bad day
Hi, the patterns you put in the first video are a list of these that repeats or we have to check our own patterns.?
Your own sir
@@redepicgames thx for the answer, was trying but its hard to search the patterns. Got like 6f s, maybe 5f again, ss, 8f!
@@AnDrU085 some comments of players in the previous video found their pattern after 2 days 😂😂😂
@@redepicgames Jesús... Thx a lot man.
@@redepicgames but when you talk here about the chart. Its our own chart or the ones you put in the second video? Thx
Sir tanong ko lang, take for example piercing staff na +10, tapos inup ko to staff of wizardry, same pa din bah yung pattern or ulit ako sa full bag method?
Yan ang d ko pa nasubukan 🤣🤣🤣 try mo 😁
I used YOLO pattern (XD) for my mystery bow and ranger clothes and it succeed to +10
Can i still use the stress test ror these items? Or i need a fresh one? Thank you!
That means your mistery bow pass the stress test, if you have the courage you can refine to +15 after you find your patern
@@Dxco31 but its not a straight +10
From +10 crossbow (with failed and broken) to +10 mystery(yeah of course with failed and broken) same with my +10 ranger clothes
Question about Hidden fail usage:
I was able to refine and item from +10 to +12 with a rare pattern of 4F2S(1H), however i didnt use the Hidden Fail afterward so ny question is does the hidden fail reset the next day or do i still need to use it on other item before i start refining?
Got afraid LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You should have put the hidden fail on another item like in my previous video.😂
I have a patern, and im check again twice.. in the 3 times, its "succes sound 2 time" but its going down 2 time too... How is it? Sry bad english sir
Did you do stress test?
@@redepicgames sir, i still dont get it with that stress test. Stress test is refining equip to +8 straight, when yolo manual refining or using pattern refining (3F2S or etc)?
If example po ba nag stress test ako ng tights then walang makuhang pattern within 15mins. then nag switch ako sa another tights which is same item lng sa first tights ko, does it mean na ung pangalawang tights hopeless narin if nag fail ung first tights sa stress test? ano rin po meaning nung USE SAME ITEM OR PATTERN ? Ok lang po ba if same item pero magkaiba pattern? o magkiba ng item pero same pattern?
Ang ginagawa ko pag sa una palang di ko na +6 yung unang item d nkonaguupgrade 🤣🤣🤣
@@redepicgames Yung sacrifice na item po ba kelangan same item or same pattern siya sa ina upgrade kong item?
@@jameltomawis8351 di ko p natry na iba, lagi same ginagamit ko
stress test = pass
item na refine hangang +8
ffsfs yung patern of the day (FFFSS) ginamit ko
after nung next 3F sa full bag method
nag 2F next. ulet sa actual refine
mali po ba naging patern ko?
ito yung result nung paghahanap ko
ssssfsfsffssssssfsfffsffsssfssfssssfsfsffffsfsfsfsssffsffssffsfsfsffsffssffsffsffsfsfffsfsfsfffsssfsssfsffssffsfs
help
I have sffffssssfssffssfsssfffffssfsfsssssssffsfsfffssfffffsssfsffffsfsfsfsfffffsssfsssfsffsssffsssfsffssssffsssffsfsfsffsfssssffssfffsfsssfsfsfffffsssffssffsffsfssffssssffffffsfsffsfsfffssf
the 4x pattern is ffsfs. Your previous video said for the rare pattern use fffss instead. I used but got 2 consecutive fail. For this pattern what should I do?
Your pattern was fffffss.. not ffsfs.. ❤
@@acebigornia8144 I saw the fffffss but the previous video pattern 1 and pattern 2 it states Pattern 1 5F3S and Pattern 2 5F4S . It never state 5F2S anywhere
Yes, your pattern is 5f3s. It appears 3times in your record.
@@iwantando guide says need to let it appear 4x?
@@eliteguardiangi yes, that means your record is not long enough.
Please revise my step 1. Stress test 2. Full bag method 3. Lets start refine It correct or not
Correct
How to full bag method?
Fill your inventory until it is full then try to upgrade 😁
I JSUT DONT UDERSTAND stress test bro.. we +6 an item then what we should know?
can anybodu explain to me pls..im burn 30m to my holy avenger T_T....
Why burn zeny without understanding the method first 😂😂😂 1. Buy clean holy avenger then refine straight to +6 without fail. 2.if you made it to plus 6,you may get the pattern to your holy avenger using full bag method then refine. 3. If u did not make the clean h.avenger to +6, do not refine your main in that day. 😂 Lastly, when you encounter 2 consecutive fails, your pattern is wrong
@@redepicgames hahha.....i feel good after see ur +14 titan when down to+3...it more disaster than my 30M...now i understand...tq ya...
it seems full bag method is not working in KR server, if i try to refine with full bag, all sound is fail sound
it might b fixed soon in sea 🤣
Are you using Japanese language. I heard someone said that we need Japanese voice to use full bag method.
@@sandysetiawan2892 how can i use japanese language? i'm in KR server
@@jhn766 not sure about KR, but in global server we can choose Japanese voice
YOLO needs balls of steel, YOUR method also requires balls of steel.
How to test stress fail correctly dude?
Why should i do stress test first before doing the full bag method?
if the items fails at +5 or +6, it is not good for refinement
Can i use a piercing staff for stress test in refining wizardry?
I think not. They are different items
Oh i see tnx for the help i will try this at my alt first
Thank you Sir as always. I got my +10 today!! 😭❤
Why.. after i did 3 item to +10..
I try to anyother account, I failed.. :( tell me.. what wrong
3 +10 not bad =)
You do not answer the question.
100% theres a pattern into an item passing the stress test?? Or sometimes nothing??
Sometimes no pattern
What do you mean by frame delay / time delay?
Sudden lag
That yolo was excruciating to watch.
Gumagana pa ba to hangang ngayon?
Thank you mister for the guide. Question : If on the same day i refine e.g. strength ring straight +3 broken, and my friend refine strength ring also straight +8, on that day strength ring passed stress test or not? Thank you.
That's a dillema hahahahah
ano palatandaan ng delay na yun? how to know the delay?what is the difference between fail and the hidden fail(hot to know that it was a hidden fail?)
Nsa previous video ko yung detailed tutorial jan sir
@@redepicgames ok senxa na sir to kasi nauna vid na nag appear.. new sub here... pero gsto ko talaga sana makabisado...hirap nako sa zeny lagi.
@@redepicgames yung delay sir abo palatandaan dko kasi ma gets hehe at yung stress test na yun..pakilagyan sir ng meaning pls.. dummy equip ba yun? ano din po yung hidden fail na tinatawag? baka pd nu ko bigyan example pra ma liwanagan sana ako.. senxa na po sa abala..
@@dread8243 nyahaha para d k mhirapan sa zeny check mo p previous vids ko . Pero dpat may oras ka hehe
@@dread8243 yung hidden fail nangyyare lng pag andun kna sa pattern part. Example 3f2s nkuha, laging may hidden fail dun sa 2success. Yung hidden fail pwedeng bago mag 2s, pedeng sa gitna ng 2s, pedeng after ng 2s
Can I do it at my home or only just holgreen?
Saw a video made it to plus 15 at home using this method
Red Epic Games thanks ill try it
Real video start at 7:22
in this method when the FFFSS starts? in +4?
Yes
@@redepicgames what if it breaks after +3 instead???
@@espertix5839 just use it for repair nxt time you refine 😁
@@espertix5839 nothing breaks after plus 3 😂
Im pretty lazy af to do those stress things and yolo refines although i understood how to do it, feels like i might be the one to get stressed af while doing it...
Also you said this in the first video but the trick has actually been circulating around for a while but it doesnt seem like someones taking advantage of it like the amount of +10 weaps increasing in exchange or even +15. Players who do BH or have a massive zeny income can easily do this nonstop..
They don't sell +15, they sell what is in demand 😂 my business before is making +8 stone buckler, so ez
@@redepicgames thanks for the reply mate, im a warlock though and i know that +15 Orleans Necklace is actually in demand... But well maybe i will give this a go soon cus warlock equips are so damned hard relying on refined upgrades to get those additional effects, its killing me as an f2p ::(
Some people still think that pattern in refine is a myth, so they don't do this. I tested it once yesterday and got +10 on a cheap item. I don't have the guts to try on upgraded item yet.
is it still working after the patch?
ruclips.net/video/_-jAvmQAIKA/видео.html study this then try 😁
still confuse.. what stress test is?
To check if the item is ok for refining. Coz some items will just go plus 5 then go down to plus 4 then go up and down. 😂
@@redepicgames i dont understand how to test stress the item :)
@@razka173 just upgrade it straight to 6, if it is broken/failed somewhere in between, it is not a good item for refining
@@redepicgames thanks
Question ! For example I want to refine my synthesized weapon which is not a +0 already How can I do the stress test if its not +0 Hahahaha
use unsynthesized version of it. theyre the same
im familiar with the yolo method ahaha
Thank you for this FAQ sir. Yeah i think this is really legit and this might be the method that refining service guys were using before and that was like way back before episode 4.5. If this is the same method then most probably they cant fix this or devs doesnt know about this yet. I just wish that they wont be able to fix this lol. Btw sir, may i know if an enchanted and already refined equip is considered a different item. For example i got 2 slot +10mbow with enchants or +0 mbow with enchants too, will it be different from a clean no enchant +0 mbow? I want to try to +15 my mbow or a +0 mbow with good enchant but i'm not sure if it will work since its pattern might be different from a clean mbow that i will use for stress test. If it wont work i think i just better start with a clean mbow and wish for straight +8 stress test so it will be a candidate for +15 but well, i'm already good with +10 lol. Just want to know if theres a chance to +15 my +10 enchanted mbow =)
You can stress test other mbow then refine your main. Tried that and was able to +15 in my alt account. And yes, this is the method being sold before
@@redepicgames thank you sir. i'll try it if i have zeny. So poor right now