How Good Is The TSP Head and ECU Tune On A 2024 KTM 300XC-W | Highland Cycles
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Reviewing the @TwoStrokePerformance High compression head and ECU tune on the 2024 KTM 300XC-W. Also checking out the Asterisk Carbon Cell Knee Braces!
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I had the Motominded Bomber Bar Switch do the exact same thing on my TPI bike!! I think it is the switch.
Those aftermarket start/kill buttons are not playing nice with the new KTM electrical systems. This is a handful of times I've seen that happen with the new bikes and aftermarket switches. Further, I read that's why KTM changed their start/stop buttons when everyone was complaining about the new buttons they said they changed them to align with their can bus type elec system. I'm staying with my stock set up, not trusting those aftermarket buttons yet... Great riding Morgan!!!
Man oh man Morgan!! These modern fuel injected KTM's make a great argument for smooth power. Zero sputter or gurgle even when running slow speeds in high gears. I'm blown away at how well that bike runs and torques through stuff. I'm a 62 year old guy who is thinking of getting another 300 just for lightness and ease-ability to ride. Thank you for going at a slower pace for us old dudes to see how well these bikes can run at "old man speed".
They are brilliant!
Even though I was disappointed in the motor stock, I could tell that it would be prob be really good with Dave's kit. Thanks for sharing :-)
You bet
Hands down, my favorite youtuber!
Thank you
agree the TSP head and flash is the bomb!
So good I went and got the irk kits to try simply because the high comp head and tune made such a difference
Love it. My 22 ec300 suspension is the same. Going slow is totally fine, but as soon as you hit the top of 2nd and bottom of third, you will need go through the full stroke really easy.
Well crud... I have the Bomber switch on my '23 300xc and '24 300xcw. Guess I better get those back off and put stock back on.
13/48 gearing is the sweet spot for technical climbs with the 2024 300 enduro models.
When you switched to the shot with your red MSR sleeves, I thought at first those were your pants. Lol. 😂
Hahahah
Great vids its good seeing someone just riding and having fun.
Good vid. We were out on some of the same trails in the opposite direction that day. Hope you found our CMTRA stickers we left on your van.
I did!! Thanks
My bbs is old and damaged. I just had it stick during a crash. It was pushing the bike more into the tree haha! I might put the stock '17 buttons back on. Or I might go to the separate bbs's from my dual setup. Which did work well for years before I smashed it. Usually I'm a little easier on parts.
Great video! I really need to get to Montrose for some riding. You need stop having so much fun. I'm starting to get jealous.😜
😂🤣
You are flying through some of that stuff. Good deal be safe
Thanks for the video, just purchased, shipping ECU tomorrow 👍
Yeah buddy!
Crazy that you caught starter issue on video. Would be interested to see you pull it apart and see if same bearing looks odd....
Yeah. I don’t think it will. At least I hope it won’t because it wasn’t on that long. But I’m definitely troubled by it
Watching this video convinced me to pull the trigger on the TSP with midrange head. Looking forward to its arrival for the 300 hard enduro.
You’ll love it
@@highlandcycles thx Morgan. Praying that your recovery goes well and you get back on the bike and start ripping again soon.
That looked really good. I see the gas cap is clocked at 5 o'clock when closed which really trips me out, my tusk cap is like that instead of the stock 6 o'clock look of stock caps. Aesthetically it's disturbing to me😁
Heheheh. Yeah I can see that being annoying
im in Oz but id love to know where those trails are! Might get over there one day, ya never know...
Montrose CO
I should have listened to you and NOT sold mine. I ended up with a 24 250xc. I guess I’ll have to send my ECU to TSP
Dang.
Have got the tsp setup on my sherco se300 i really like it also.
Would love to go for a ride with you,
But i live in Australia ...
I want to get to Oz soon
Rad trail! Where is this? Right at the beginning looked like a combo of The Tubes and 5MOH 🤙
Montrose CO
Morgan did you ever test just the ecu map alone without the new head? Just thinking that my bike has plenty of power and might just need the re-map.
Great video starter thing very odd possible loose connection I guess👍
Yeah. Super weird
PRC!!!🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
🤘🏻🤘🏻
Nice little ride. Those look like some fun trails. I have Leatt C Frames. I've only wore them a few times. I keep forgetting to put them on. LOL. But I like the way you can still grip the tank as if you're not wearing a brace. Go WFO in Baha and win. Ride safe my 2 wheel friends.
Right on
Tsp's ERM is legit. You should check it out if you havent. Not sure if its compatible with TBI yet but if not im sure its coming. For TPI its awesome.
Not ready for TBI yet but getting one when it is
I called Slavens and they said it will be available in December. They said it will be a game changer and allow you to remap ecu yourself on demand. No need to goto dealer and beg for a remap.
@@offroadtrailrider77 yep.
Great videos buddy 👍👍 are you running the black or grey throttle cam? And gearing?
Whatever cam came in it and stock gearing. 13:45
@@highlandcyclesprobably the grey cam then 👍
Great video, great ride.. I have the same bike and it really is a fantastic machine. Question -- I live on the coast of SC, so unless we travel a few hours its low lands and tight woods mostly. Just curious if you would still recommend the upgrades? Does it make an all around better bike or really just add to it because of your everyday terrain? Ive been following you guys for a while now and knew you were a rider but, your speed though the rocks (even holding back) was impressive. Very nice.. also, how long does a set of Mousse Balls last you? Thanks Morgan and Thanks to Zack for his service..
First off, yes it’s worth it. Even though you are at a lower elevation, the head and tune are soooo good. Just better in all ways honestly. I would do the medium head down there. And the mousse balls are lasting over 80hrs which is a huge gain.
thanks for the video, great as always!
what gear ratio do you use?
what do you recommend in hard enduro as gear ratio? *
As for the cylinder head insert, do you recommend the high comp or the medium comp for hard enduro?*
thank's
Stock gearing
What is a half pipe?
And for the insert what do you mean by crossing?
@@highlandcycles I corrected my post, sorry for errors
@@alexvernet3837 I would do 13:52 for hard enduro
And medium head
They look comfy 👍
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Morgan, I can’t remember what video you talk about the Mako 360 on your 23 XC. What color of polymers do you run in it?
If you had to pick between steering stabilizer and Mako what do you think?
Also, good video, I will be looking at this set up for my 24 TE 300.
Also just noticed you have the Mako on this bike!
I run purple polymers and orange shark bite on my bikes. That’s really cushy. I personally like the mako over a steering stabilizer on my small bikes
@@highlandcycles
Awesome. Thanks!
Hey Morgan, ever solve why the starter stayed engaged? button? I have old KTM buttons on my 23 tbi with out issues.
I think it was the buttons from moto minded
Morgan, I think I've asked you this before but it's a funny little tidbit that I'm curious about. Why do you always seem to talk to the camera with the sun directly in your eyes as you do @ 0:10? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Is it just me? hahahahahaahahahaha all in fun.....although I would like an answer! haha
Hahaha. Because if I don’t you can’t see my face. My camera setup won’t pick my face up if it’s in shadow. And I’m not a weenie
I have a 23 300 xcw with tsp medium compression head and tune. Thinking of upgrading to a 24 with med head and tune. How do you think the different motors will compare?
The new motor is night and day better
Hi Morgan, I recently purchased the TSP head from you and am considering the tune for 250 and maybe my 300 as well. On my 300 I have a head from someone else whose initials are Slavens. I have been running 40:1 for some time and while the bike seems to run really well, I have a lot of spooge on the silencer that drips down on the swingarm and generally is a mess. Did you find the tune helped at all to clean up the spooge? Thanks
Yes it does
Do you have to ever run race fuel/race fuel mix with pump with the high compression head? In N Idaho I run anywhere from 1500 ft to 6000 ft. Thinking the med compression is best but maybe the high if I don't have to always be fueling with race gas. Thoughts? Thanks!
I haven’t had to but we are at 5k and up.
When respringing for heavier/lighter rider… are you swapping with the new straight rate style or are you putting progressive springs on? Ktm switched these to a straight rate in 2024
We use progressive springs.
love your videos. i am a taller guy and usually run bar risers. I have a 2024 300 XCw and the cables and lines look a little short to run much of anything, be it risers or a taller handlebar. I noticed you have a different handlebar on this bike. any taller than stock? what's your opinion on how high you can go on stock lines and cables without getting in the danger zone of pinching and stretching? thanks!
It does have a little taller bar on it but just a bit. I don’t know what the max height you can go but probably about 1.5 to 2 inches.
@@highlandcycles thanks for the reply
Morgan where do you get your riding gear that will put on your business logo?
s3
I have a 24 TE and considering the TSP kit as well. How do figure the XCW with the TSP compares to a stock XC? Meaning, not your heavily modded bike but rather, the stock XC 300. Thx
It’s still not as explosive as the XC even stock but that’s a good thing. It’s just very controllable power everywhere and much cleaner.
My xcw came with the orange oil fill bolt and after I drained the gear oil for first service the bolt is so tight that it stripped and can’t get it off. I am also not liking the way the suspension feels in the front being harsh and just doesn’t feel right. I need help Morgan I may just drive to your shop this week
I’m in Mexico til the 21st. But we can help
So what octane fuel would have to be used with the high comp head at sea level?
I’m not sure. That would be a question for TSP. But I know that I have taken it to sea level and I just mix 50/50 race gas and it’s good.
I think you brushed that button with your hand/wrist and didn't know it the second time. Button looks very easy to hit
But it stayed on
@@highlandcycles Yeah, the first time it was definitely stuck. A little sketchy for a new bike (or any bike for that matter). When I went back and looked at the footage again it seemed as if the Handlebars flopped over and might have leaned against your hand/wrist without you feeling it. Obviously, You would know better than me sitting in my living room. Either way, it's got potential issue. Stupid KTM
@@WithoutCertaintyyeah. And my 23 bendix just stuck out and fried my bendix and starter
@@highlandcycles It really seems as if the starters are inferior. And it's not just the KTM products. Betas seem to eat them also. You'd would just assume that for what these bokes cost, they would use better components. My 23 TE250 has had issues since day 1.
@@WithoutCertainty yeah. Hard to tell but if you listen to the bike while I’m pushing it, you can hear the whine of the starter motor. Not awesome
Nice to see you put your pants on one leg at a time.
😁
Was there any improvement in the spooging issue all the TBIs have?
Yes
Do you feel the lower Hp output on the xcw vs the xc? Does it feel less peppy?
A little less peppy but really smooth
How do predict the suspension would have felt with the correct springs in the bike, for your weight?
I don’t understand your question? How do predict??
What I mean is, how do you think the bike would have felt in the sections were you were saying that your XC was better, if you were using the correct spring rates and stock valving in the same place?
@@mikeburnett6222 probably pretty good. But definitely not the same as the XC. The lack of linkage alone makes it a very different handling bike. Not bad just different
@highlandcycles where is peach valley is that in arizona I've been watching your channel a lot I want to get a xcw so bad
@@jondunbar5668 it’s near montrose Colorado
How necessary do you think it is to measure squish if installing this head kit on a bike with 60-70 hours on it?
Not really at all
@@highlandcycles Cool. I think i'm going to go for it as soon as I have the $$$.
Are the buttons plug and play Morgan or did you wire them ?
Plug and play
Was it them that’s the problem?
Can you tell much of a difference in the handling between the PDS and linkage on the newer bikes?
Not a ton
Do they have this set up available for a 24’ 250 XCW ? Thanks 😊
That is what I’m riding
@@highlandcycles Oh I thought that his bike was a 300 my bad
@@cgreen1599 crap. It is. Sorry I misread your comment. But yes I think they have it for the 250
Where is that riding area at? Is that in arizona?
Colorado
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the 24 xcw felt good stock, i dont think it needs this upgrade.
Depends on what you’re looking for and where you live. We are in a valley at 6000 ft. Everything is up from here
@@highlandcycles what are you looking for at 6000'?
@@billypulsipher1544 I just want the power back that it had at sea level. That’s where the high comp head comes in. Then the ecu tune just cleans it up.
How far is your average ride?
I try to at least ride 40 miles if I can. But regularly in the summer we ride over 100
That’s got some grunt👍
So much
Troy Lee 6400, Yah its another KTM, sounds like it is running more like a Stock Beta 300.🤣🤣 To bad that WP needs work$$$.
Hahahah. We will see. I have a 24 beta ordered
Yea carb bike works in a narrow temp and altitude range, outside of that range, you are then you back screwing with a carb. TBI runs perfect from sea level to 14,000 ft and from zero to 100 degrees. No carb bike will do that. Beta needs to join the 21st century and dump the antiquated carb.
Won't have a bike with electric start.
You won’t have one with electric start? How come ?
I won't have a bike without an elec start...
Somebody has to be buying Suzukis!
@@wednesdar452 Or Yamahas.
@@onthethrottle7104Congratulations.
Morgan is the re-flash necessary due the the higher compression head or could you go without it?
It’s not necessary but it is really nice.