Zhulodok EDH. How to lose your friends

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  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2023
  • my take on Zhulodok, Void Gorger!!
    decklist link below. it has my finished deck list with my preferred prints and foils.
    feel free to tell me any ideas you have in the comments.
    archidekt.com/decks/5081211/y...
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  • @PapyMagic
    @PapyMagic 3 месяца назад +8

    Great video I love this deck ! I have a pretty similar less pimped for sure ;).
    We have rated it 8

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for watching. I'm glad you enjoyed it. To be honest, this video is outdated now. And so is the updated video. If you have a decklist, I'd be happy to look at it!😁

  • @ev_ring
    @ev_ring 5 месяцев назад +107

    “Oh, my deck’s only around a power level 7.”

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  5 месяцев назад +3

      That's still good. I've asked people about the power level of this deck, and I've gotten answers ranging from 7 to 9. And a few that say it doesn't really fit on the scale. Not saying it's above a 10, just that it doesn't have much interaction so they can't place it

    • @thewheelsman29
      @thewheelsman29 4 месяца назад

      ​@@TcgCollectorYTI run WUBRG Eldrazi with Morophon, I used to play it colorless but hit a wall because of the lack of access to interaction. People have a hard time judging decks with no interaction because they usually suck and Eldrazi don't, but no interaction is still a huge hinderance. I'd say the best that a colorless deck can do is a high 7. You're running as much fast mana as possible but other decks can do what you're doing faster because of better access to ramp, can recover from control effects or block them all together with counter spells, can run significantly better control themselves, and can get much better card draw. Tempt with discovery is a 4 cost spell that can tutor out your Eye of Ugin at minimum and if your table makes poor decisions, all 3 Urza's lands. That is a green and three. Some of the best non-titan Eldrazi cost colored mana to cast. Sire of Stagnation can vault you ahead in a way that your opponents sometimes can't recover. That being said, even in colored, the best you can do is a high 8. 9s have turn 1 or 2 win cons. 9 is cEDH.

    • @TheColts714
      @TheColts714 4 месяца назад

      Any fast acceleration is auto 7 plus I run the same deck just no zero rocks or sol ring and to be honest it rarely losses it’s all about how well you synchronize it.

    • @thewheelsman29
      @thewheelsman29 4 месяца назад +1

      @@TheColts714 I ran the same deck with the zero rocks and it wasn't strong enough to deal with any deck that runs interaction because 2 exiles and 3 counterspells locks you out. The only way you can regularly win is if nobody runs interaction and 7 is where people start running interaction. The problem with colorless is that every color has access to everything you do and they have access to color spells. Colorless Eldrazi is a ramp/control deck that doesn't get access to control spells. The reason people often run Great Distortion as the commander is because it gives you access to card draw and counters but even with that the deck struggles in higher level games. I lost a game with a turn 4 Infinite Gyre to Arcane Denial in colorless, then had nearly the same run in WUBRG and countered their counter because I had access to blue. It's not comparable.

    • @TheColts714
      @TheColts714 4 месяца назад +1

      @@thewheelsman29 I agree 100 percent on that which is why Iam so proud of how I built my deck took a lot of loses when I first built it from the precon doesn’t matter what gets thrown its way I lose things that work out better in the graveyard and cast things that don’t look threatening and when it’s least expected I win the game.🤷🏽‍♂️ That’s the beauty of magic there are so many cards that a lot of people concider trash but it’s a piece to a puzzle that gets you wins once you build the whole picture. I’ll admit I had a lot of help from different people that have been playing this beautiful game since day 1 and even they concider this deck to be meta without any mana rocks or fast ramp just a perfectly built machine.💪🏽

  • @shawnrandall1876
    @shawnrandall1876 8 месяцев назад +22

    Cool deck with all the love and bling put into it. Thanks for sharing

  • @berserk7407
    @berserk7407 6 месяцев назад +33

    Dismissing Kozilek's counter ability is crazy D:. He was my commander of this deck before Zhulodok.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  6 месяцев назад +3

      I like him more for his draw ability. There is nothing stronger than drawing cards

    • @jkjackson91
      @jkjackson91 5 месяцев назад +4

      His counter ability has saved me so many times

    • @adoo765
      @adoo765 5 месяцев назад +1

      I have zhulodok as commander and i I still doubt if he is better than kozilek specially because he can refill your hand

    • @jkjackson91
      @jkjackson91 5 месяцев назад +3

      Kozelik can refill your hand but I find Zhuludock waaaay more fun to play! CASCADE, CASCADE *copy ability* CASCADE into ramp, then play more spells! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@jkjackson91 I'm with you on that

  • @PawzBrownMTG
    @PawzBrownMTG 5 месяцев назад +16

    That's a very fun deck. I'm building mine a bit different but you can never go wrong with Eldrazi 😆

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  5 месяцев назад +4

      I really love the eldrazi, hoping to see more of them in the next horizon set.

    • @thewheelsman29
      @thewheelsman29 4 месяца назад +1

      Try Morophon for WUBRG Eldrazi

  • @dtstar331
    @dtstar331 3 месяца назад +4

    Something worth noting about Spawnsire of Ulamog:
    "From outside the game" actually doesn't include exile since exile is a zone in the game.
    If your cards end up in exile, its ability won't let you cast anything from there.
    It's noted in its rulings on Scryfall and Gatherer:
    "In a casual game, the cards you cast from outside the game come from your personal collection. In a sanctioned event, those cards must come from your sideboard. Note that you can't cast cards from exile this way; exile is a zone in the game."

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  3 месяца назад +1

      i was going off an old ruling from back in the day. i was made aware not long after the video went live. but ya its good to note that for the people not aware thanks

    • @Transformers4444
      @Transformers4444 День назад +1

      Also in the rules for the Commander format it's stated that effects that grab cards from outside the game simply do not work. If you house rules it to allow it that's fine, but the official rules are another nail in the "get/cast card from outside the game" effects in Commander

    • @dtstar331
      @dtstar331 День назад

      @@Transformers4444 Yeah, having a "sideboard" in commander is a gentlemen's agreement thing

  • @Junyg1
    @Junyg1 3 месяца назад +1

    Love how u explain cards and why thank you

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  3 месяца назад

      i tried to keep it short and to the point. also unscripted so i fumbled over my words a lot. i'm happy you enjoyed it

  • @d.barrett578
    @d.barrett578 4 месяца назад +10

    As someone that has played this deck (colorless eldrazi) for almost two years now there is alot of cards in there that you'll end up cutting after seeing they do almost nothing. Its weird with this shell how many things sound good but end up being really bad. Adding 4 or 5 two mana, mana rocks really speeds the deck up quite a bit. Not to mention everflowing chalice and skyclave relic are both amazing. Im also very shocked you arent playing Skittering Cicada. The card is absolutely insane and a complete auto-include.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад +2

      For sure, there are some strict upgrades and a few cards that are less than efficient. But you got to have room for a few pet cards. At least I make room for them. When it comes to skittering Cicada, I just see it as a Vedalken Orrery tbh

    • @d.barrett578
      @d.barrett578 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@TcgCollectorYT It's one mana less, becomes a massive creature, and also has flash itself. That is significantly better than Orrery.
      Additionally, like many others said in the comments the Kozilek ability you called "never relavent" is one of the strongest effects in the deck. Kozilek plus a full hand late game can compeltely lock down the game for the colorless player. I'd really start using it. I totally get it becaue it seems useless at times. But it also turns are your mana rocks you no longer need into counter spells of that mana cost.

    • @joaquinportobello6523
      @joaquinportobello6523 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@d.barrett578 vedalken Orrery is strictly better. The increased mana is not nearly as valuable as the fact it isn't a creature. Cicada is fine for lower powered play where a single big creature can matter more.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  3 месяца назад

      @d.barrett578 Hey, sorry I missed this follow-up response. My own notifications failed to notify me😆. I can see your point when it comes to Cicada. However, in my playgroup, creature removal is rampant artifact removal on the other hand, is seldom used. That's why I use orrery over Cicada. Now, when it comes to kozilek counter ability, I've maybe had the opportunity to use it twice out of the 50 times I've played this deck. The game is normally over before he and his ability would be relevant

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  3 месяца назад

      @joaquinportobello6523 my thoughts exactly. Creature removal is everywhere. However, you have to go out of your way for artifact removal

  • @foxofdiamonds2334
    @foxofdiamonds2334 5 месяцев назад +9

    Trimming down those artifacts may help you in the long run. Also, Karn Liberated is so toxic while at the same time does nothing for the overall health of the deck. The Great Creator would help.
    P.S. Spawnsire doesn’t actually bring stuff back from exile. It’s supposed to bring stuff from a sideboard or from your collection. The ruling regarding Spawnsire states that Exile is still a zone within the game, so Spawnsire can’t touch it.
    I’d frankly recommend cards like Platinum Angel and Palantir of Orthanc to replace the sheer amount of artifact gain you have. Colorless ramps so fast that you don’t need over half your deck to ramp to those titans. I’d also recommend Helm of the Host instead of that bounce artifact you have. Duping your Eldrazi is better than bouncing them IMO. Finally, cards like Cloud Key, the Immortal Sun, Chimil the Inner Sun, and Helm of Awakening are going to allow for you to ramp so much better than all the mana rocks you got.
    P.P.S. Commander’s Plate is also busted in a colorless deck. Granted Zhulodok shroud is fine, but giving him Protection from all colors is better. Akroma’s Memorial is nice on paper, but it doesn’t work as well with the deck since there are far cheaper and less targetable options to do what Memorial does. Kaldra Compleat is probably a better choice, since it’s cheaper and it offers a more versatile and less targetable option.

    • @foxofdiamonds2334
      @foxofdiamonds2334 5 месяцев назад

      Another note: Horizon Stone is a fantastic alternative to most ramp in the deck. Colorless mana rocks are nice, but the fact Horizon Stone prevents your mana from being wasted is beyond fantastic.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  5 месяцев назад +1

      Hey bud, I really appreciate all the suggestions. I was unaware of the spaw sire ruling until a few weeks ago and have since been informed. When it comes to a few of your suggestions, I have already implemented a few within the deck update video. But I'll take a look at a few other suggestions you have made here... we can always improve right. 😁

    • @foxofdiamonds2334
      @foxofdiamonds2334 5 месяцев назад

      @@TcgCollectorYT Ah. My bad. Been working on my own Zhulodok deck upgrade, and thought I’d share. Didn’t know there was an update video already lol.

    • @jojojo9240
      @jojojo9240 5 месяцев назад

      just fyi helm of awakening also affects opponent's spells if i read that right

    • @foxofdiamonds2334
      @foxofdiamonds2334 5 месяцев назад

      @@jojojo9240 Yes it does. It’s also the cheapest mana reducer on the list, so despite that it’s pretty nice to have.

  • @ohchinchindaisuke1927
    @ohchinchindaisuke1927 6 месяцев назад +6

    Question about spawnsire, I thought commander didn’t have the sideboard function which invalidates the 20 mana ability. Does exile count as sideboard?

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  6 месяцев назад +3

      Ya, i was going off an old ruling that's been updated. I didn't know about the update until recently. Another person in the comments here corrected me on it. At this point in commander, it's a dud ability.. sorry for any confusion

    • @LimitBlade617
      @LimitBlade617 4 месяца назад

      There is an optional sideboard rule.

    • @ich3730
      @ich3730 4 месяца назад +2

      at the end of the day its EDH, so who cares. If someone wants to pay 20 and dump the 20 page binder full of eldrazi they keep for this reason, more power to them

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      @ich3730 if only my play group would let me do it 😤

  • @Hidden5box
    @Hidden5box 7 месяцев назад

    This is cool hope to see your edits soon try chimil, the inner sun

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  7 месяцев назад

      I'll have an update sometime this week. Just waiting on the mail 😅

  • @ethanvetter7289
    @ethanvetter7289 3 месяца назад +1

    i love Zhulodok. hands down the best colorless commander imo

  • @zappadali8696
    @zappadali8696 4 месяца назад +1

    Appreciate some of the recommendations, can’t get this deck to go off the few times I’ve played it. Only tweaked it by about $100.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      Ya, the deck is not the greatest out of the box, sadly. And at this point, most people know how strong zhulodok is, so they kill him fast. Need either reducers or fast rocks. Or a combination of both to really get this off the ground

    • @zappadali8696
      @zappadali8696 4 месяца назад

      Feel like the new 5 color Eldrazi isn’t going to be much different.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      @@zappadali8696 apparently I've missed some spoilers because I didn't know there was a 5 color coming

    • @richiebrown3886
      @richiebrown3886 2 месяца назад

      Is there a reason you don't play manifold key and voltaic key?

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  19 дней назад

      Just didn't have room

  • @andreaslion5877
    @andreaslion5877 4 месяца назад +1

    damn, love that playmat. Is this a custom one? I have been looking for something in this style forever lmao. Cool deck as well :)

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад +1

      Hey bud I appreciate the playmat love. And since you asked. It's made by "RK Post" I'll drop a link where you can buy this mat and other cool items
      www.rkpost.net/product-page/pul119-three-tenors

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад +1

      And hey, if you're interested, I'm running my first giveaway on my new video. It's just for a pack, but hey, it's free, right

    • @andreaslion5877
      @andreaslion5877 4 месяца назад

      @@TcgCollectorYT man I appreciate it, I'll sub and keep an eye out for your bling videos

  • @julianholubec5021
    @julianholubec5021 2 месяца назад +1

    I would run Myr enforcer for a cheap trigger, but this deck is really good! I wonder how you get away with 34 lands

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  2 месяца назад

      The mana rocks do a lot of work. Plus, the 2x cascade gets you more mana

  • @vgpatman9728
    @vgpatman9728 4 месяца назад +2

    Where did u get those tokens? They look sick.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      The commander token came from Ebay and the other from etsy

  • @zerodono
    @zerodono 6 дней назад +1

    Are you gonna make cuts for any of the new Titans at all?

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  6 дней назад +1

      Ya, I got 3 different eldrazi vids coming soon. One drops today. Zhulodok is a little hard to make cuts in because it runs so well as is. But have no fear the titans are coming.... no, wait.... HAVE FEAR

  • @YaPapiStrap
    @YaPapiStrap 4 месяца назад +2

    What are these sleeves in? Double sleeved? Almost looks tripled 😂

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад +2

      The deck is triple sleeved. All dragon shield products. Smoke inner sleeves. Halloween sleeves. and clear outter sleeves

  • @KodamaoftheWeastTree
    @KodamaoftheWeastTree 4 месяца назад +1

    We were like 80 cards deep then we finally see the first non commander Eldrazi 💀

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      Hey, sorry it took me a day to comment back. Now, when you say non commander, are we talking non legendary? Or did I miss something on the ban list?

    • @KodamaoftheWeastTree
      @KodamaoftheWeastTree 4 месяца назад

      @@TcgCollectorYT nah I was just mentioning that it was funny that with the way you sorted the cards, you were about 80 cards deep until you revealed an Eldrazi that wasn’t Zhul

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад +1

      @KodamaoftheWeastTree ah ok. Ya, I sort every care based on mana cost, so the big dudes are always in the back

  • @gymace9769
    @gymace9769 3 месяца назад +1

    You forgot that the dividing top + mystic forge+Ugin lets you draw your whole deck for free, draw till you get infinite mana then go crazy

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  19 дней назад

      Tbh, I didn't realize that until you mentioned it. Good eye!

  • @darcyunderscorejohn
    @darcyunderscorejohn 2 месяца назад

    Really love this deck, I'm running something similar, but a few changes for more land focus + some alt cards that spice it up a bit, it's up as Great Shambling Mass on moxfield, would love some tips :)

    • @darcyunderscorejohn
      @darcyunderscorejohn 2 месяца назад

      Manascape refractor + exped map make thespians worth a slot I think, as well as manascape + brighthearth rings/voltaic, as well as voltaic + brighthearth + any 3+ mana rock, lots more infinite mana loops, also I feel like i see metalwork colossus in zero decks and its bonkers here

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  19 дней назад

      Hey bud, sorry for the late reply. I'd be happy to look at the list. Do you have a link?

    • @darcyunderscorejohn
      @darcyunderscorejohn 19 дней назад

      Uhh tried to link it but YT said no, it's on moxfield "The Great Shambling Mass (ASP)" by Cousin_Darc

    • @darcyunderscorejohn
      @darcyunderscorejohn 19 дней назад

      @@TcgCollectorYT yeah just "The Great Shambling Mass (ASP)" on moxfield by Cousin_Darc, youtube comments and links being mega weird RN

    • @darcyunderscorejohn
      @darcyunderscorejohn 17 дней назад

      Not sure if RUclips is being weird or what, can't post a link, it's saved public as the Great Shambling Mass on moxfield

  • @khai-phongnguyen6918
    @khai-phongnguyen6918 6 месяцев назад +4

    Is there a reason youre not playing Urzas Saga? It can fetch Sol Ring, Mana Crypt or a Mana Vault

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  6 месяцев назад +1

      With only 3 cards it could grab, I didn't think it would be necessary.

    • @RunningGriffin
      @RunningGriffin 4 месяца назад

      @@TcgCollectorYT And makes 2 karn-structs, I think urza's saga is a slam dunk land here. The tutor at chapter 3 just helps you upgrade the mana production when it dies.

    • @thewheelsman29
      @thewheelsman29 4 месяца назад

      You can also run a key to untap mana-vault for 1 and tutor for that with the saga.

  • @KevinGarcia-Karatzu
    @KevinGarcia-Karatzu 4 месяца назад +2

    My Eldrazi is a Vintage deck, but I might turn it into a Commander for a limited time before going back to Vintage. (I love my Mama Eldrazi banned in Commander)

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад +2

      You could always talk to your play group and see if they would allow you to play Mama eldrazi

  • @JTatin
    @JTatin 8 месяцев назад +2

    Why use Glimmervoid and take the risk ? What is it to gain with a mana of any color in a colorless deck ?

    • @shawnrandall1876
      @shawnrandall1876 8 месяцев назад +1

      Very niche but if he steals a creature with an activated ability requiring color it could come in handy once in a blue moon 😎

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  8 месяцев назад

      You have a point it's definitely a risk, but I always have more than enough artifacts.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  8 месяцев назад +1

      You know I've been playing with the idea of creature stealing but haven't found the right way to consistently do it ib this deck

    • @EDHCollector
      @EDHCollector 6 месяцев назад

      @@TcgCollectorYT Spire of Industry gives you colored mana or colorless without the downside of glimmervoid

  • @wiimotecactus3124
    @wiimotecactus3124 5 месяцев назад +2

    my version doesnt have any of the $100 plus cards but it still stomps its also just a great precon well worth the money if you like colorless

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  5 месяцев назад +1

      100% worth the money.

    • @xbroski8901
      @xbroski8901 5 месяцев назад

      can you share your decklist please

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  5 месяцев назад

      @@xbroski8901 archidekt.com/decks/5081211/your_consent_is_not_required

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  5 месяцев назад

      This list has been updated

  • @AtlRopeGuy
    @AtlRopeGuy 4 месяца назад +2

    It’s amazing with a 10k deck you could improve it by just changing the commander 😂

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      Your not wrong😭 but I'm not gonna😅

  • @franslair2199
    @franslair2199 4 месяца назад +2

    Really think there should be a voltaic/manifold key in there, sorry if I missed them

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      It's all good you didn't miss anything. I simply didn't add them due to unwinding clock. But adding redundancy is never a bad idea

    • @franslair2199
      @franslair2199 4 месяца назад

      @@TcgCollectorYT cut locus lands and thespian stage/vesuva for artifact costremoval, as well as urza's saga and the keys. Your deck is not eldrazi enough so you need to do both eldrazi and strong artifact synergies. Eldrazi have strong early plays.
      Another thing is that you are misunderstanding Spawnsire of Ulamog. It can't bring back exiled cards, only cards from outside the game.

  • @mattcarnelli6782
    @mattcarnelli6782 4 месяца назад

    Very nice deck, from another Eldrazi player with 2 decks myself (Butcher and Zhulodok). But I’m not sure what’s going on in this build half the time. You run some powerhouse cards but such terrible off theme other ones it’s weird lol

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      Hey, thanks for checking it out. Always love me some eldrazi. With this build, I wanted to run my pet cards like I do in most of not all my builds. Most of my pet cards are "bad" to 99% of players, but I run them for the fun. For example, my favorite card in all of magic is "warp world." I can't fully explain why I just love how it turns the game on it head. I know some of the cards in the deck are not optional, but tbh I kinda like it that way. 😁

  • @maloo2brvo26
    @maloo2brvo26 4 месяца назад

    I’m new to magic. How would your first few turns look if all your cards are super high mana costs? It seems like you’d need to pray everyone doesn’t target you for the first few turns

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      In my play group, I have a few house rules. I won't go over all of them here, but I'll give the big 2. #1 You get 2 free mulligan's #2 if you have no lands in your opening hand free mulligan that doesn't take away from your 2 free mulligans. So, ideally, you would open with at least 3 lands and a few rocks either. They should tap for more than 1 mana. Then start casting 7-7+ spells and your off to the races👍🏻

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      I'm also working on a gameplay video for this deck today. With be out sometime this week

  • @andrewkelley6039
    @andrewkelley6039 6 месяцев назад +1

    Would you ever run Nearby Planet for one of the lands?

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  6 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately, that card is not legal due to the acorn in the bottom. But if it were 100% yes. There's also a follow up vid to this decklist where I show a few more cards added

    • @andrewkelley6039
      @andrewkelley6039 6 месяцев назад

      Ahh that makes sense, A legal one i just added is the cave from the new ixalan set, Echoing Deeps. Might get somethin good one day
      @@TcgCollectorYT

    • @andrewkelley6039
      @andrewkelley6039 6 месяцев назад

      and my one nonland suggestion i thought looked great from the new ixalan was Dino DNA @@TcgCollectorYT

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  6 месяцев назад +1

      That's a great suggestion. Tbh, I completely forgot this card existed. I'm gonna look into fun stuff with this!

  • @superchunk5324
    @superchunk5324 5 месяцев назад +3

    I’m not sure if it was already mentioned or not, and sorry if it was, but this deck is technically rule zeroed for the fact of the Mightstone and the Weakstone being a white, blue spell therefore it is not in your commander’s color identity.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  5 месяцев назад +3

      From the new rules. The Mightstone and Weakstone has a colorless color identity. As the updated rules since March of the Machine clarify, a meld card's back face is not used except to "determine the characteristics of the melded permanent [that the corresponding meld] pair becomes on the battlefield"
      I had to look it up because I didn't think about the color on the other side.

  • @ross7499
    @ross7499 Месяц назад +1

    How much is the cost of this deck? I bought a few expensive cards already and have a list of even more expensive ones, lol. I may sell a deck just to be able to afford the cards.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  28 дней назад

      The Deck is up there mainly because of specialty prints and reserve list cards. I'd say around 17k-20k ballpark range

    • @Zo3yX
      @Zo3yX 19 дней назад

      Proxy. Edh is the perfect format for proxies

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  19 дней назад +1

      I always proxy for decks. I'm testing. www.printingproxies.com
      Is a great place to order proxies. They are high quality and have different backs, so they are not counterfeit. Not sponsored!

    • @Zo3yX
      @Zo3yX 19 дней назад

      yea they are a bit expensive compared to printing them myself but the quality is definitely there with them. I would probably use them for a more permanent proxy deck or cube. The packs they have seem fun too

  • @carterharris334
    @carterharris334 4 месяца назад +2

    I feel like roaming throne could be kind of crazy in this deck.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад +1

      I did an updated video. Roaming throne was added in that video. And yes, it is

    • @carterharris334
      @carterharris334 4 месяца назад

      @@TcgCollectorYT Lost caverns was just crazy overall 😂

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      Way better of a set the makm that just dropped

    • @carterharris334
      @carterharris334 4 месяца назад

      @@TcgCollectorYT agreed, I mean there are some promising possible commanders like voja but other than that not much to write home about.

  • @jtmoney606
    @jtmoney606 3 месяца назад +1

    you need the textured foil koz and ulamong, and besides a few RL cards mostly value from the workshop id say it values more toward 6k but still a dandy deck, city of traitors, GM, and metalworker value about $550 I got some very pricy decks built I'm embarrassed to say how much ive spent on magic the last 2 years 😭 but hey you only live once right.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  3 месяца назад +1

      If i get foil titans, they're gonna be original zendikar. And mishra's workshop is down to 2.5k. As of now, but ya, it's definitely the most expensive card in the deck. I haven't spent that much in the last 2 years myself, but in my life, oh man, i don't wanna talk about it 🤣

  • @sketchyzxch2958
    @sketchyzxch2958 4 месяца назад

    Got the commander masters zhuludok precon he is a very solid commander I like being able to cascade for 7 or more twice 😂

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      Oh ya, I love zhulodok. Now we get getting more eldrazi toys in MH3

  • @nethandelwampa116
    @nethandelwampa116 4 месяца назад +1

    Don’t care about the deck but that playmat is sick!

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      Hey, thank it's the first playmat I ever bought myself. "RK Post" made it

  • @itskmillz
    @itskmillz 4 месяца назад +3

    ah yes lemme just pick up a mishra's workshop just a $2000 card 😳

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      Ya, it's up there. But not required for the deck.

  • @Nex41354
    @Nex41354 3 месяца назад +1

    If you have friends in this game, you're doing great already.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  3 месяца назад

      I do what I can 🤣

    • @JohnLucPicard98
      @JohnLucPicard98 2 месяца назад

      @@TcgCollectorYTI love this list man! I’m making it myself. I’ll have to wait on diamond valley and mana crypt though lol

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  19 дней назад

      The diamond valley got cut. And there will be a bunch more cuts as MH3 is out. Might do another update

  • @johnflores3103
    @johnflores3103 5 месяцев назад

    Spawnsire of Ulamog ruling: Note that you can’t cast cards from exile this way; exile is a zone in the game.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      indeed. i've been made aware. thank you

  • @franslair2199
    @franslair2199 4 месяца назад +1

    Mystic forge + divining top + artifact/colorless cost reducer is an infinite draw

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      I only have 1 reducer in the deck at this point. Ugin

    • @franslair2199
      @franslair2199 4 месяца назад

      @@TcgCollectorYT well you should have more, because it turns out that drawing infinite cards and getting infinite mana is pretty good

  • @LsDLOR
    @LsDLOR 3 месяца назад +1

    Brooooo, that's colorless s3x! +respect. Why no Warping Wail ?

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  3 месяца назад

      just not a big fan of it. only counters sorcery spell's seems kind of weak plus hitting it off the cascade feels bad in testing. mind you this isn't the final build always trying new things so it may make it in one day

  • @kozad86
    @kozad86 3 месяца назад +1

    I imagine you draw the full attention of those pesky Simic players who normally devote their time to ramp, countering spells, and being salty in general.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  3 месяца назад

      You would be right. Luckily, we don't have many of those in my group

  • @r.r.theninja6812
    @r.r.theninja6812 5 месяцев назад +1

    Glimmervoid in a colorless deck... Hello?

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  5 месяцев назад +1

      The glimmervoid has been replaced. I made an update video showing the cards added and taken out.

  • @nathana4464
    @nathana4464 4 месяца назад

    I thought my zhulodok deck was good but good god I never wanna hear it from my pod ever again

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      I appreciate it, bud. Feel free to show the list to anyone who complaints. List is in the description

  • @richiebrown3886
    @richiebrown3886 2 месяца назад

    Any reason you don't run manifold key and voltaic key?

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  19 дней назад

      I just couldn't find space

    • @richiebrown3886
      @richiebrown3886 7 дней назад

      Yeh I see what you mean I’m playing almost the same deck. When this thing pops off it’s un stoppable

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  7 дней назад

      @richiebrown3886 big facts! That cascade goes crazy. I'm playing around with Ulalek, fused atrocity
      As the commander. I'm not sure how to feel about it rn. However, keep an eye out for a new eldrazi decktech tomorrow!

    • @richiebrown3886
      @richiebrown3886 7 дней назад

      @@TcgCollectorYT I’ve decided I’m staying with zhuludok it’s not my top tier deck I just love the deck and all the pet cards. FYI echoes of eternity is amazing. You get 4 cascades from zhuludok and it copies colorless spells. Gotta love copying ramp and 4 cascades 😂

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  7 дней назад

      @richiebrown3886 Oh, believe me, I know I reference the 4 cascades in the new vid. "Spoilers" also you can copy both zhulodok and echos with ulalek's copy effect!. Yup ya I think zhulodok is the best eldrazi command hands down!.
      I got 2 eldrazi decks rn along with oloro.
      Everything else got taken apart working on a few decks rn

  • @Legacy738
    @Legacy738 18 дней назад

    Why have gilded lotus? You cant choose 3 colorless mana because colorless isnt a color

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  18 дней назад

      Actually, it does make colorless mana. The key part is that it says, "choose." A color, it does filter right back into colorless because zhulodok is the commander. It's kinda like urborg. You can run urborg in any deck because the card technically doesn't have a color identity. Alternatively, you can say it is used for generic mana

  • @Buzzsawspright
    @Buzzsawspright 3 месяца назад

    So I recently have gotten into magic and I chose this as my first precon and my cousin said he would never play against this deck again and he said he would rather play against chatterfang and slivers.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  3 месяца назад

      Wanting to play against slivers over this is crazy to me.

  • @AllarionTalfwyn
    @AllarionTalfwyn 4 месяца назад

    There's 2 infinite combos in the deck. Sensei's Divining Top + Mystic Forge + Ugin the Ineffable = draw entire deck

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад +1

      I'm not gonna lie. I missed that combo when making the deck. I didn't realize it when infinite, nor was it there on purpose. But am I keeping it... yes. Am I gonna use it.... yes... thanks for pointing it out

  • @lowki805
    @lowki805 19 дней назад

    I subscribed just to support you cuz you know your sht

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  19 дней назад

      Hey, thanks. Welcome to the CollectorCult

  • @zefereater4741
    @zefereater4741 4 месяца назад

    Loreseekers Stone is a strict upgrade to Tower of Fortunes

    • @zefereater4741
      @zefereater4741 4 месяца назад

      not a strict upgrade but def saves you more mana in the long run i think

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      Assuming you have fewer cards in hand. It's way cheaper. I'll take it under consideration

  • @nullnull7352
    @nullnull7352 4 месяца назад +1

    Ooooooooh my Tax Returns this year are gonna hate me for this one.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      Do it😈😈

    • @nullnull7352
      @nullnull7352 4 месяца назад +1

      @@TcgCollectorYT Oh no definitely. Got this troll at my LGS that likes to haze new players (I was a victim of him when I first started back a few years ago) and so its gonna be this deck, and the Lavinia cEDH “F*ck you, you cant play” deck. Dampening Sphere be like “Hope you got enough rocks to pay for that pretty commander, lollll”

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      I hate those kinds of players. That's why I made my oloro deck. You should check it out it's also on the channel. Along with the decklist

  • @hodlsage8968
    @hodlsage8968 5 месяцев назад +1

    Top + Forge and some mana reduction goes infinite.

  • @tom-oq8eh
    @tom-oq8eh 4 месяца назад +1

    how the hell did you afford this

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      I've been playing a long time🧓🏻

  • @multieyedmyr
    @multieyedmyr 4 месяца назад

    With that kind of money you can buy more friends.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      You could but would they be worth keeping

  • @cynicaldissident9465
    @cynicaldissident9465 4 месяца назад +1

    casually flips a 2200 dollar Mishras Workshop like its nothing lol

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      🤣my bad, I'll put up a money notice next time. I've had it for so long that it's just another card to me. I sometimes forget how expensive it is

  • @joshrobinson2409
    @joshrobinson2409 5 месяцев назад +2

    From what i heard from most of the people i know zhuladok isnt that good, and that the cascade doesnt matter cause most of the eldrazi have hogh casting costs

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  5 месяцев назад +1

      He's definitely not the best Eldrazi. But his cascade is nice to force out mana rocks and cmc reducers. Making it to where you can get your high cmc Titans faster. At least that's what my build does

    • @awookiefromendor
      @awookiefromendor 5 месяцев назад +1

      I cascade until I win all the time. Not sure what you’re doing wrong.

  • @suntzu6122
    @suntzu6122 6 месяцев назад +1

    You need a coercive portal

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  6 месяцев назад

      I'll look into it! Thanks for the suggestion😁

    • @suntzu6122
      @suntzu6122 6 месяцев назад

      @@TcgCollectorYT Oh, well.. honestly are you playing 1v1s or 4 player? That matters a lot with this card lol.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  6 месяцев назад +1

      It's a 4-player build. I never really thought about a 1v1 deck tbh

  • @eepicnickk
    @eepicnickk 4 месяца назад +1

    Estimated deck cost 14k… man I’m to poor for this ****

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      Drop the foils and a few of the high-end lands, and then it becomes way cheaper

  • @airpro8672
    @airpro8672 3 месяца назад

    That workshop is a 3rd of the decks cost LMAO

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  3 месяца назад

      Not exactly. It's around $2000 - $2500, depending on if you're using market price. If you're using last sold prices, $1989. Either way ya it's expensive. 😅

  • @iclimbeverything2990
    @iclimbeverything2990 4 месяца назад

    Very few creatures

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      I'm not gonna lie. I do that very often it's kinda a problem I have. I have a light monster play style, most would say. Tbh, I'm a control player at heart

  • @HazmanFTW
    @HazmanFTW 5 месяцев назад +1

    Why run Glimmervoid? It doesn't seem useful in this deck as you don't need the colour. Plus, losing a land to a Shattering Spree or Vandalblast seems bad. Same thing with Guilded Lotus, you don't really need the colour, and 3 mana from a 5 mana artifact. Running a couple more basics is good in case someone casts a Back to Basics or Ruination. And maybe some land destruction lands like Wasteland and Strip Mine to deal with problem lands like Cabal Coffers, especially with a Crucible of Worlds you can just start Strip Mining a player.
    Spawnsire of Ulamog doesn't work how you think it does. Most commander games don't have a sideboard and you can't cast spells from exile with it as exile is a zone in the game now and has been for like 15 years at least. Otherwise looks good. I would run an It That Betrays to combo with All is Dust, also running Not of This World is pretty good as it can save targeted removal of your big dudes for free. I used to run a Kozilek deck 5 years ago but didn't have the money to make it as oppressive as everyone thought it was as. I wanna rebuild an Eldrazi deck but still don't have the money :D

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  5 месяцев назад

      Hey bud. I did an update video on this deck. I removed the glimmervoid as it was a placeholder along with a few other lands. In there place wasteland and strip mine were added amongst others. When it comes to guilded lotus, it's a pet card, and it ramps nicely for my needs.
      With the whole "Spawnsire" thing, ya the last time I played it. It worked differently. Unfortunately, I wasn't aware of the rules change at the time of this recording. But I have since been made aware of the rules change a few days after this video went live.
      I appreciate the comment and interest in the video

  • @JordiGaming1999
    @JordiGaming1999 4 месяца назад

    One blood moon and your finished 😂

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      Ture. Luckily, no one in my group runs bloodmoon.

  • @VultureXV
    @VultureXV 6 месяцев назад +1

    What friends?

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  6 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly, I lost them all with this deck 🤣

  • @crazyhans
    @crazyhans 4 месяца назад

    Lock your camera's focus my guy

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      My bad fam, I thought it was during the filming. I found out afterward it wasn't

  • @Flakko-ku4ou
    @Flakko-ku4ou 4 месяца назад

    Lol try imoti infinite turns if u want to cascade for real

  • @NekoSauce
    @NekoSauce 11 часов назад

    How to waste money and be a jackass 101

  • @alexroel123
    @alexroel123 4 месяца назад +1

    All these fancy arts/foils and your one ring is just a one ring, dissapointed

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      Don't worry, I have since put a foil one in😉

  • @aamazie
    @aamazie 4 месяца назад +1

    You wouldn’t lose me. Your deck isn’t that effective.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      Im ok losing, tbh It's built for fun and to look pretty.

  • @MrBiosh0ck
    @MrBiosh0ck 5 месяцев назад

    This looks so boring to play

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  5 месяцев назад +1

      Do remember everyone enjoys the game differently. I personally highly enjoy how this deck plays. I hope you find a build that works for you 😁

  • @rosun_official
    @rosun_official 5 месяцев назад +1

    Not of this world is very underrated for a free counter/instant.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  5 месяцев назад

      True. And it came in the precon, just not a big fan of it personally

    • @alexanderficken9354
      @alexanderficken9354 5 месяцев назад

      it counters any spell or ability targeting zhulodok and gives you 2 free spells on top of it, what's not to like?

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  5 месяцев назад +1

      @alexanderficken9354 The part where it has to be targeted is what I don't like. Yes, you get 2 free cards, but you also have to always have 7 mana there at all times. I should almost always have more than enough mana to recast zhulodok and would rather do that than just hold up the 7.
      I hope that makes more sense 😁

    • @alexanderficken9354
      @alexanderficken9354 5 месяцев назад

      @@TcgCollectorYT not really, you dont need to hold up 7 mana for it. It's free to cast: "This spell costs {7} less to cast if it targets a spell or ability that targets a creature you control with power 7 or greater." zhulodok is a lightning rod and taking advantage of that with not of this world is some of the best value you can get.

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  5 месяцев назад

      @alexanderficken9354 not gonna lie. I forgot the part about it being free

  • @EDHCollector
    @EDHCollector 6 месяцев назад +1

    I would swap Planar Portal for Planar Bridge

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  6 месяцев назад

      I thought about it. However, the big part of eldrzi's are their cast effects, and I won't get them with the bridge. But still not a bad suggestion might still fit it in for non eldrazi cards like combo pieces

    • @EDHCollector
      @EDHCollector 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@TcgCollectorYT True but since you have to pay double with Planar Portal (finding the card and casting it) you have a big tempo advantage with Planar Bridge. Do it end of turn before your turn and get the attack trigger immediatly. Its way better then have to pay double for all the cards. But on the other hand you can get instants and sorceries with Planar Portal. I love to get Darksteel Monolith with Planar Bridge and immediatly cast something from my hand for 0.^^

    • @xWaRLoRDxx
      @xWaRLoRDxx 4 месяца назад

      ​@@TcgCollectorYTtutor Ugin spirit dragon or blightsteel lol

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      I have picked up a planar bridge. I'm running it in tandem with the planar portal😁

  • @XxcrazycjxX
    @XxcrazycjxX 4 месяца назад +1

    I've been slowly building mine, would recommend throwing roaming throne in there to really lose some friends

    • @TcgCollectorYT
      @TcgCollectorYT  4 месяца назад

      Hey bud, don't worry, I added a roaming throne awhile back for maximum friend loss