Rocky was born in 1923 so he was 26 in 1949, when he fought Vingo. Perhaps he discovered his power at age 22 but he was older than that at the end of 1949. Very truthful answers.
Rocky was the Best Boxing Champion Ever! I saw him just a few days before he died when he visited Kalamazoo. Rocky showed some of his Fight-Films at the Kalamazoo County Fairgrounds Bldg.
I was brought into this world in 1949 when the man was 22 and fought against Carmine Vingo in his first real bout. I grew up in Miami loving boxing, and broke another kids nose in the ring at the Southwest Miami Boys Club. The boys mother complained so Vehemently the boxing program got cancelled. I also played football and baseball but really felt robbed when I could not box in the ring anymore. I just found out that Rocky lived in Miami and had I known that I would've knocked on his door and begged for his autograph. I worked for two other professional boxers i.e. Bobby Dykes and Anthony Masciarelli. Bobby owned a night club and Tony owned Palace Billiards on Southwest 8th Street in Miami. Both Dykes and Masciarelli were super nice guys and I count myself lucky for knowing them. I could go on, but that's all ancient history now. God Bless America (USA) !!!
Rocky is the real terminator he would beat anyone into submission with his barrage of punches from round one till the fifteenth round I don't think I have ever seen a heavy weight boxer that would throw that many punches in a round after three rounds most heavy weight boxers are laying on each other.
@@blackdavidfrostnDesMoines He fought the best in his era and even being small i believe with his guts and power would be in the top five in the 60s-70s his weakness was cuts
They lie on each other because most of the "fighters" today are "gassed" by the 4th or 5th round. They come in with "man boobs"..."rolls" around the middle...these guys aren't in shape to go 10 rounds...never mind 15 rounds. Marciano knew he had to be in better shape than the guy he was fighting. His opponent usually was taller than he was...and weighed more than Rocky. Rock wasn''t going to be out punched...he wasn't going to be out-gutted...his opponent wasn't going to be in better shape than Marciano...his heart wasn't going to be a big as Rocky's...Rocky would hurt you no matter where he hit you. He was responsible for 13 permanent retirements...he had a "kill or be killed" attitude...he would wear you down...round after round of relentless attack...and your not going to beat a guy like Marciano with a left jab over 15 rounds!!!
@@beatlejim64 Hello friend.. If it isn't Mr Exaggerator Fabricator himself. Has Rocky broken anymore bones this week? How bout blood vessels, or teeth? Practically nothing happened to LaStarza, and Bingo Bongo Vingo hit the back of his head on wooden flooring.
@@beatlejim64 Rocky's numbers may not lie, but numbers minus context can easily lead to distortion. So let's examine his 13 opponents that he supposedly forced into retirement instantaneously: Amateur Lee Epperson was debuting with 0-0-0 record when he faced Rocky. Shameful and Embarrassing to even count this as forced-retirement! Retired from what? He never even had a boxing career! Back then he was most likely 16yrs old. Amateur Jimmy Weeks was debuting with 0-0-0 record when he faced Rocky. Shameful and Embarrassing to even count this as forced-retirement! Retired from what? He never even had a boxing career! Probably another 16yr old. Amateur John Edwards only had 2 fights before he faced Marciano. Edwards was KO'd his first fight and won his 2nd fight against another 173 lb amateur (Paul Longo) with a 0-0-0 debut record LMAO. Y'all gonna count this one also??? (Jim Cushman Will !!!) We know for certainty that ring-worn Joe Louis only came back because IRS basically forced him to. As soon as they took his purse for fightin Rocky, he was out of there for good! Walcott retired because he was ready for retirement. He only returned for Marciano-2 because of that Huge $250K payday. Marciano only received $166K. Walcott received the lions share both fights. Had Walcott continued fighting he would have only received a fraction of that. He had no choice but to retire. $250K back then is $2.6 million today. Rocky never retired Walcott,, he "QUIT"!!! Lee Savold age was 36 with 153 bouts. His manager, Bill Daily, asked referee Pete Tomasso to stop the uneven match at the end of the sixth round. "The will was there but not the body," said Daily. "I'm going to advise Lee to retire Tomorrow." Lee didn't even throw a punch at Rocky, he basically stood there like heavy punching bag. Completely washed Savold was only there for his last Big-Paycheck!!! Obese 254 lb Humphrey Jackson was simply 4-2 amateur when he faced Marciano. He never beat a winning fighter. It only took 0:34 seconds for Humphrey to be KO'd in his first fight, and 1:28 in his last fight. The less said about Humphrey 'Bum' Jackson the better! Jimmy Evans was 18-7 , 178 lb LIGHT heavyweight B-level undercard Journeyman with five year career when he Quit. Harry Haft was 12-7 , 5' 9" 174 lb LIGHT heavyweight B-level undercard Journeyman when he took on Marciano. Shake My Head. Gino Buonvino was 24-15 with an 8 year dubious Journeymen career. Eldridge Eatman was 22-21, with a 12 year 50/50 career when he fought Rocky. "Eatman proved no opposition for Marciano", according to the Providence Journal, "Marciano hit Eatman with a right in the 3rd round, and Eatman went down after that, though it didn't appear he was hit." Another perfect $$Take-a-Dive$$ undercard C-Level 12 year Controlled Journeyman!!! Pete Louthis was 32-13 when he fought Rocky. Pete had an abysmal 35% KO% percentage. Louthis fought Willie James with 0-0-0 debut record,, only 2 fights before facing Marciano. Pete fought TEN men with 0-0-0 records. Another 100% MAFI-SO CONTROLLED!!! Carmine Vingo with his very very very dubious overrated 16--1 record,, hit the back of his head on the wooden flooring and unfortunately ended up slightly paralyzed but ended up living a long (86 years) happy life. It appears Rocky did not force-retire any of these boxers. It's all mere exaggerated fabricated hyperbolic speculation that Jim Cushman started 13yrs ago! But I'm here now for the next 13yrs to clean up Jimbo's biased incessant hate filled fiction.
The great white hope Marciano battered Don Cockell, another light heavyweight masquerading as a Heavyweight. Rock was the biggest phony ever, how in the hell could boxing allow such deceit, they must legitimize his legacy so they brought out of retirement an OLD
90% of little white Rocky's opponents were journeymen, and the rest were small cruiserweight has-beens with twice as many fights on the downward slide. Considering all his B-Level opposition and the fact that he 'Quit' during his 'Prime' , 49-0 really isn't that fantastic.
No doubt about it, Rocky is definitely showing symptoms of Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) which is a progressive and fatal brain disease associated with repeated traumatic brain injuries (TBIs), including concussions and repeated blows to the head. It is also associated with the development of dementia. CTE was once known as dementia pugilistica, or punch-drunk syndrome. Besides his mistakes here, Marciano also said at tape #4, "I fought 16 times in my very first professional year. The following year i fought 14 times," and "In my 23rd fight i was on television and made a big hit, in beating Joe Louis." Arithmetic is one of the first things that goes with dementia pugilistica.
I'm a big Rocky fan here, but I'm quite surprised that he's so dismissive of that era's fighters. The 1960s was full of fantastic fights and fighters. Also, in Rocky's time there was plenty of corruption in the game with Mob bosses such as Frankie Carbo involved. The fight game has always had corruption and sadly it probably always will.
The great white hope Marciano battered Don Cockell, another light heavyweight masquerading as a Heavyweight. Rock was the biggest phony ever, how in the hell could boxing allow such deceit, they must legitimize his legacy so they brought out of retirement an OLD
Agree check out a fab boxing movie about fight fixing the 1950s called , the harder they fall. Humphrey Bogart jersey Joe Walcott and max Baer are in the movie.
A realist too he spoke on boxing and how boxers lost the competition spirt and only think bout what there gonna earn sadly boxing is still exactly what he sad
Thanks for posting this. Vingo didn’t have 17 straight knockouts as related by Marciano. Vingo had 7 total knockouts in his career and had been beaten by decision one time before losing to Marciano. He was a rugged fighter by all accounts, however.
You're welcome, John. In his interviews, Rocky, like most fighters, does exaggerate from time to time. I don't think he's being deliberately misleading. Just trying to make the conversation interesting. And, it's a lot to expect of a fighter, or any person in the pre-internet world, to know every statistic of their career.
@@FightFilmsGuy Right on! I concur with you 100%. Marciano, in fact, reveals a great deal of intellect and polish in his commentary within all his interviews. Thanks, again
What a great resource. Thanks for posting. But it's hard not to be amazed that Hy Gardner could say boxing in Marciano's day, or any day, was clean and got dirty later. You can't hear Rocky's eyes rolling, but he was probably too discreet and polite to laugh. No doubt Gardner knew better as well.
Rocky Marciano was a fab fighter . He was a gentleman full of class and dignity. There is a fab boxing movie about fight fixing in the 1950s called , the harder they fall. It’s stars Humphrey Bogart Rod Steiger jersey Joe Walcott and max Baer. It’s a knockout and 100% worth checking out?
Boxing was alway dirty filled with nasty people. Al Weil, Rocky’s manager, was a corrupt jerk. Rocky was clean, but, he knew it was dirty at manager and fighter levels. Walcott put junk on his gloves
The Marciano Tapes #6 @3:40 Marciano confesses Carmine Vingo hit the back of his head on the plywood flooring. *He said, "it so happened that Vingo hit his head on the flooring, and it sent him unconscious. He was paralyzed a little bit in his fingers and hands. There was a change in the ruling, from then on padding was put on the ring of the flooring."* Rocky's manager Al Weill said the same thing in Marciano's biography 'Unbeaten', *"Vingo hit his head on the flooring, then he went unconscious."* So after all this time it was the plywood flooring that partially paralyzed Vingo, not Marciano's punch. *It's no wonder Vingo said, "I WAS SLAUGHTERED FOR A CROWD" --source: The Saturday Evening Post by Carmine Vingo as told by Seymour Shubin* *Carmine Vingo's F-LEVEL opponents:* *1.* Barney Metten career record 6 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL* *2.* Fred Ramsey career record 8 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* *3.* Earl Turner career record 2 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL* (Turner's only purpose was padding records). *4.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL* (Another paid diver). *5.* Joe Lindsay career record 28 wins 7 losses *C-LEVEL* (Vingo Loses). *6.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL* *7.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* *8.* Jimmy Walls career record 20 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL* (Another Diver). *9.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* (SECOND time Vingo fights this guy. Why? We all know why). *10.* Johnny Williams career record 2 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL* *11.* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* *12.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL* (SECOND time Vingo fights this guy. Why? We all know why). *13.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* *14.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* (SECOND time Vingo fights this guy. Why? Isn't it obvious? To pad his fraudulent resume). *15.* Joe Modzele career record 18 wins 8 losses *D to F-LEVEL* (Another 183 lb light heavyweight moonlighting as Heavyweight, they were dime a dozen back then). *16.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL* (Second time Vingo fights this diver. Vingo fought *FOUR* opponents *TWICE* within 16 bouts. The majority of his opponents had losing records. This is all to reminiscent of Roland LaStarza's resume). *17.* Al Robinson career record 0 wins 5 losses *F-LEVEL* (Vingo actually fights a debuting amateur (0-0-0) just before he faces Rocky. Why? Worst division in boxing history). *18.* Rocky Marciano career record 49 wins 0 losses *A-minus-LEVEL for extremely short 7yr career. In comparison Moore had 27yr career.* (Vingo was completely outclassed and never had a chance from the get-go. I saw their Getty Museum pics and Marciano didn't have a single mark on his face, his eyes were wide open and clear). All this time i was mislead into believing that Vingo was this twenty year old superstar being prepped to become the next Heavyweight champ. Instead he was prepped for *SLAUGHTER JUST TO PLEASE A CROWD* --Carmine Vingo *WHAT THEY DID TO VINGO WAS A TRAVESTY*
@@Lucille69caddy Maybe little white Rocky could have beaten that circus clown Jess Willard who was paraded around for 4 years without a single fight. Or maybe he could have even beat that other circus clown Primo Carnera who was daily alcoholic (like Andre the Giant) and 100% mafioso controlled. The ‘ambling alp’ was an awful boxer with gigantism or acromegaly (like Andre the Giant). He was promoted as a monster because of his size, but he was really clumsy and couldn`t punch with his full weight, he was completely exposed by Joe Louis who easily battered Primo into submission.
@@jamest681 Gypsy King Fury would keep little white Rocky at arm's length and force him back whenever he felt crowded. He'd jab, turn and bewilder him for as long as wanted, and if Fury felt so inclined, he'd walk him down Kronk style and smash out a stoppage. And none of this, "if he can't reach his head he'll go to the body", either. That's just bull****. Fury's lead would keep Marciano too far away as is. He ain't getting the opportunities to impose his workrate and definitely doesn't hit hard enough to stop him. Fury jabs him into oblivion. Heck, Fury can land 4 or 5 jabs a round and win the round. King Fury wins. Anyway he chooses.
The great white hope Marciano battered Don Cockell, another light heavyweight masquerading as a Heavyweight. Rock was the biggest phony ever, how in the hell could boxing allow such deceit, they must legitimize his legacy so they brought out of retirement an OLD
Maybe little white Rocky could have beaten that circus clown Jess Willard who was paraded around for 4 years without a single fight. Or maybe he could have even beat that other circus clown Primo Carnera who was daily alcoholic (like Andre the Giant) and 100% mafioso controlled. The ‘ambling alp’ was an awful boxer with gigantism or acromegaly (like Andre the Giant). He was promoted as a monster because of his size, but he was really clumsy and couldn`t punch with his full weight, he was completely exposed by Joe Louis who easily battered Primo into submission.
A man to respect, admire, and not to upset. The hero, the champ, the legend. Rocky Marciano.
Me tooo.....rocky the man
A privilege to hear the greatest heavyweight champion of all time, telling it true & without guile. Thank you for these wonderful postings ~
I agreee
Rocky was born in 1923 so he was 26 in 1949, when he fought Vingo. Perhaps he discovered his power at age 22 but he was older than that at the end of 1949. Very truthful answers.
There has been a lot of great fighters, but there is only one Rocky Marciano.
The great Rocky Marciano
Rocky was the Best Boxing Champion Ever! I saw him just a few days before he died when he visited Kalamazoo. Rocky showed some of his Fight-Films at the Kalamazoo County Fairgrounds Bldg.
I was brought into this world in 1949 when the man was 22 and fought against Carmine Vingo in his first real bout. I grew up in Miami loving boxing, and broke another kids nose in the ring at the Southwest Miami Boys Club.
The boys mother complained so Vehemently the boxing program got cancelled. I also played football and baseball but really felt robbed when I could not box in the ring anymore.
I just found out that Rocky lived in Miami and had I known that I would've knocked on his door and begged for his autograph. I worked for two other professional boxers i.e. Bobby Dykes and Anthony Masciarelli. Bobby owned a night club and Tony owned Palace Billiards on Southwest 8th Street in Miami.
Both Dykes and Masciarelli were super nice guys and I count myself lucky for knowing them.
I could go on, but that's all ancient history now. God Bless America (USA) !!!
Rocky is the real terminator he would beat anyone into submission with his barrage of punches from round one till the fifteenth round I don't think I have ever seen a heavy weight boxer that would throw that many punches in a round after three rounds most heavy weight boxers are laying on each other.
Marciano would have killed these fat heavy weight fighters now!
@@blackdavidfrostnDesMoines He fought the best in his era and even being small i believe with his guts and power would be in the top five in the 60s-70s his weakness was cuts
They lie on each other because most of the "fighters" today are "gassed" by the 4th or 5th round. They come in with "man boobs"..."rolls" around the middle...these guys aren't in shape to go 10 rounds...never mind 15 rounds. Marciano knew he had to be in better shape than the guy he was fighting. His opponent usually was taller than he was...and weighed more than Rocky. Rock wasn''t going to be out punched...he wasn't going to be out-gutted...his opponent wasn't going to be in better shape than Marciano...his heart wasn't going to be a big as Rocky's...Rocky would hurt you no matter where he hit you. He was responsible for 13 permanent retirements...he had a "kill or be killed" attitude...he would wear you down...round after round of relentless attack...and your not going to beat a guy like Marciano with a left jab over 15 rounds!!!
@@beatlejim64 Hello friend.. If it isn't Mr Exaggerator Fabricator himself. Has Rocky broken anymore bones this week? How bout blood vessels, or teeth? Practically nothing happened to LaStarza, and Bingo Bongo Vingo hit the back of his head on wooden flooring.
@@beatlejim64 Rocky's numbers may not lie, but numbers minus context can easily lead to distortion. So let's examine his 13 opponents that he supposedly forced into retirement instantaneously:
Amateur Lee Epperson was debuting with 0-0-0 record when he faced Rocky. Shameful and Embarrassing to even count this as forced-retirement! Retired from what? He never even had a boxing career! Back then he was most likely 16yrs old.
Amateur Jimmy Weeks was debuting with 0-0-0 record when he faced Rocky. Shameful and Embarrassing to even count this as forced-retirement! Retired from what? He never even had a boxing career! Probably another 16yr old.
Amateur John Edwards only had 2 fights before he faced Marciano. Edwards was KO'd his first fight and won his 2nd fight against another 173 lb amateur (Paul Longo) with a 0-0-0 debut record LMAO. Y'all gonna count this one also??? (Jim Cushman Will !!!)
We know for certainty that ring-worn Joe Louis only came back because IRS basically forced him to. As soon as they took his purse for fightin Rocky, he was out of there for good!
Walcott retired because he was ready for retirement. He only returned for Marciano-2 because of that Huge $250K payday. Marciano only received $166K. Walcott received the lions share both fights. Had Walcott continued fighting he would have only received a fraction of that. He had no choice but to retire. $250K back then is $2.6 million today. Rocky never retired Walcott,, he "QUIT"!!!
Lee Savold age was 36 with 153 bouts. His manager, Bill Daily, asked referee Pete Tomasso to stop the uneven match at the end of the sixth round. "The will was there but not the body," said Daily. "I'm going to advise Lee to retire Tomorrow." Lee didn't even throw a punch at Rocky, he basically stood there like heavy punching bag. Completely washed Savold was only there for his last Big-Paycheck!!!
Obese 254 lb Humphrey Jackson was simply 4-2 amateur when he faced Marciano. He never beat a winning fighter. It only took 0:34 seconds for Humphrey to be KO'd in his first fight, and 1:28 in his last fight. The less said about Humphrey 'Bum' Jackson the better!
Jimmy Evans was 18-7 , 178 lb LIGHT heavyweight B-level undercard Journeyman with five year career when he Quit.
Harry Haft was 12-7 , 5' 9" 174 lb LIGHT heavyweight B-level undercard Journeyman when he took on Marciano. Shake My Head.
Gino Buonvino was 24-15 with an 8 year dubious Journeymen career.
Eldridge Eatman was 22-21, with a 12 year 50/50 career when he fought Rocky. "Eatman proved no opposition for Marciano", according to the Providence Journal, "Marciano hit Eatman with a right in the 3rd round, and Eatman went down after that, though it didn't appear he was hit." Another perfect $$Take-a-Dive$$ undercard C-Level 12 year Controlled Journeyman!!!
Pete Louthis was 32-13 when he fought Rocky. Pete had an abysmal 35% KO% percentage. Louthis fought Willie James with 0-0-0 debut record,, only 2 fights before facing Marciano. Pete fought TEN men with 0-0-0 records. Another 100% MAFI-SO CONTROLLED!!!
Carmine Vingo with his very very very dubious overrated 16--1 record,, hit the back of his head on the wooden flooring and unfortunately ended up slightly paralyzed but ended up living a long (86 years) happy life.
It appears Rocky did not force-retire any of these boxers. It's all mere exaggerated fabricated hyperbolic speculation that Jim Cushman started 13yrs ago! But I'm here now for the next 13yrs to clean up Jimbo's biased incessant hate filled fiction.
It's kind of sad to hear Marciano so happy talking to the interviewer without knowing he'd die the next morning
The great white hope Marciano battered Don Cockell, another light heavyweight masquerading as a Heavyweight. Rock was the biggest phony ever, how in the hell could boxing allow such deceit, they must legitimize his legacy so they brought out of retirement an OLD
90% of little white Rocky's opponents were journeymen, and the rest were small cruiserweight has-beens with twice as many fights on the downward slide. Considering all his B-Level opposition and the fact that he 'Quit' during his 'Prime' , 49-0 really isn't that fantastic.
No doubt about it, Rocky is definitely showing symptoms of Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) which is a progressive and fatal brain disease associated with repeated traumatic brain injuries (TBIs), including concussions and repeated blows to the head. It is also associated with the development of dementia. CTE was once known as dementia pugilistica, or punch-drunk syndrome.
Besides his mistakes here, Marciano also said at tape #4, "I fought 16 times in my very first professional year. The following year i fought 14 times," and "In my 23rd fight i was on television and made a big hit, in beating Joe Louis." Arithmetic is one of the first things that goes with dementia pugilistica.
why are you talking nonsense? He's literally showing no signs of that
Why he's dead leave him alone
You love to hate this guy but he’s a top 5 heavyweight all time any way you shake it 49-0 43 KOs
Punk-ass troll has no respect for Rocco. Maybe you’re talking about your boyfriend, deflecting towards Rocco?
@@Lucille69caddy probably a black guy they hate Rocco
I'm a big Rocky fan here, but I'm quite surprised that he's so dismissive of that era's fighters. The 1960s was full of fantastic fights and fighters. Also, in Rocky's time there was plenty of corruption in the game with Mob bosses such as Frankie Carbo involved. The fight game has always had corruption and sadly it probably always will.
Liston ali 2 fights were fixed(teddy atlas agrees)so in the early 60's too. frazier at the end 60's Ali that's it.
The great white hope Marciano battered Don Cockell, another light heavyweight masquerading as a Heavyweight. Rock was the biggest phony ever, how in the hell could boxing allow such deceit, they must legitimize his legacy so they brought out of retirement an OLD
Agree check out a fab boxing movie about fight fixing the 1950s called , the harder they fall. Humphrey Bogart jersey Joe Walcott and max Baer are in the movie.
Rip you'll always be the only people's champ
A realist too he spoke on boxing and how boxers lost the competition spirt and only think bout what there gonna earn sadly boxing is still exactly what he sad
Thanks for posting this. Vingo didn’t have 17 straight knockouts as related by Marciano. Vingo had 7 total knockouts in his career and had been beaten by decision one time before losing to Marciano. He was a rugged fighter by all accounts, however.
You're welcome, John. In his interviews, Rocky, like most fighters, does exaggerate from time to time. I don't think he's being deliberately misleading. Just trying to make the conversation interesting. And, it's a lot to expect of a fighter, or any person in the pre-internet world, to know every statistic of their career.
@@FightFilmsGuy Right on! I concur with you 100%. Marciano, in fact, reveals a great deal of intellect and polish in his commentary within all his interviews. Thanks, again
@@FightFilmsGuy Yeah, for instance he said he was 22 in that fight, he was actually 26!
Always articulate... Comes across as so authoritative As he was a well spoken conversationalist.... Plain speaking without guile.
A true champion and my fav. He is correct, money game indid Tyson and J.P today
He would have been a gladiator in Rome or a Spartan in Greece willing to die to win .
What a great resource. Thanks for posting. But it's hard not to be amazed that Hy Gardner could say boxing in Marciano's day, or any day, was clean and got dirty later. You can't hear Rocky's eyes rolling, but he was probably too discreet and polite to laugh. No doubt Gardner knew better as well.
Rest in peace Rocky. The Lord takes us when we least expect it sometimes.
Rocky Marciano was a fab fighter . He was a gentleman full of class and dignity. There is a fab boxing movie about fight fixing in the 1950s called , the harder they fall. It’s stars Humphrey Bogart Rod Steiger jersey Joe Walcott and max Baer. It’s a knockout and 100% worth checking out?
Do you have the footage of him giving Sammy Davis Jr a boxing lesson?
❤
Boxing was alway dirty filled with nasty people. Al Weil, Rocky’s manager, was a corrupt jerk. Rocky was clean, but, he knew it was dirty at manager and fighter levels. Walcott put junk on his gloves
Hours before his "death" -- this is creepy OH ROCK, I have no words. But why did he say he was 22 when he fought Vingo? He was 26.
Rocky Marciano teaching Sammy Davis junior how to box
The Marciano Tapes #6 @3:40 Marciano confesses Carmine Vingo hit the back of his head on the plywood flooring. *He said, "it so happened that Vingo hit his head on the flooring, and it sent him unconscious. He was paralyzed a little bit in his fingers and hands. There was a change in the ruling, from then on padding was put on the ring of the flooring."* Rocky's manager Al Weill said the same thing in Marciano's biography 'Unbeaten', *"Vingo hit his head on the flooring, then he went unconscious."*
So after all this time it was the plywood flooring that partially paralyzed Vingo, not Marciano's punch. *It's no wonder Vingo said, "I WAS SLAUGHTERED FOR A CROWD" --source: The Saturday Evening Post by Carmine Vingo as told by Seymour Shubin*
*Carmine Vingo's F-LEVEL opponents:*
*1.* Barney Metten career record 6 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL*
*2.* Fred Ramsey career record 8 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
*3.* Earl Turner career record 2 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL* (Turner's only purpose was padding records).
*4.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL* (Another paid diver).
*5.* Joe Lindsay career record 28 wins 7 losses *C-LEVEL* (Vingo Loses).
*6.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL*
*7.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
*8.* Jimmy Walls career record 20 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL* (Another Diver).
*9.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* (SECOND time Vingo fights this guy. Why? We all know why).
*10.* Johnny Williams career record 2 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
*11.* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
*12.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL* (SECOND time Vingo fights this guy. Why? We all know why).
*13.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL*
*14.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* (SECOND time Vingo fights this guy. Why? Isn't it obvious? To pad his fraudulent resume).
*15.* Joe Modzele career record 18 wins 8 losses *D to F-LEVEL* (Another 183 lb light heavyweight moonlighting as Heavyweight, they were dime a dozen back then).
*16.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL* (Second time Vingo fights this diver. Vingo fought *FOUR* opponents *TWICE* within 16 bouts. The majority of his opponents had losing records. This is all to reminiscent of Roland LaStarza's resume).
*17.* Al Robinson career record 0 wins 5 losses *F-LEVEL* (Vingo actually fights a debuting amateur (0-0-0) just before he faces Rocky. Why? Worst division in boxing history).
*18.* Rocky Marciano career record 49 wins 0 losses *A-minus-LEVEL for extremely short 7yr career. In comparison Moore had 27yr career.* (Vingo was completely outclassed and never had a chance from the get-go. I saw their Getty Museum pics and Marciano didn't have a single mark on his face, his eyes were wide open and clear).
All this time i was mislead into believing that Vingo was this twenty year old superstar being prepped to become the next Heavyweight champ. Instead he was prepped for *SLAUGHTER JUST TO PLEASE A CROWD* --Carmine Vingo
*WHAT THEY DID TO VINGO WAS A TRAVESTY*
Rocky was undefeated and during his era, defeated every challenger. There is nothing else that could be asked of him.
@@jamest681Haters gonna hate. Especially that tool.
Jealous much
@@Lucille69caddy Maybe little white Rocky could have beaten that circus clown Jess Willard who was paraded around for 4 years without a single fight. Or maybe he could have even beat that other circus clown Primo Carnera who was daily alcoholic (like Andre the Giant) and 100% mafioso controlled. The ‘ambling alp’ was an awful boxer with gigantism or acromegaly (like Andre the Giant). He was promoted as a monster because of his size, but he was really clumsy and couldn`t punch with his full weight, he was completely exposed by Joe Louis who easily battered Primo into submission.
@@jamest681 Gypsy King Fury would keep little white Rocky at arm's length and force him back whenever he felt crowded. He'd jab, turn and bewilder him for as long as wanted, and if Fury felt so inclined, he'd walk him down Kronk style and smash out a stoppage. And none of this, "if he can't reach his head he'll go to the body", either. That's just bull****. Fury's lead would keep Marciano too far away as is. He ain't getting the opportunities to impose his workrate and definitely doesn't hit hard enough to stop him. Fury jabs him into oblivion. Heck, Fury can land 4 or 5 jabs a round and win the round. King Fury wins. Anyway he chooses.
The great white hope Marciano battered Don Cockell, another light heavyweight masquerading as a Heavyweight. Rock was the biggest phony ever, how in the hell could boxing allow such deceit, they must legitimize his legacy so they brought out of retirement an OLD
Maybe little white Rocky could have beaten that circus clown Jess Willard who was paraded around for 4 years without a single fight. Or maybe he could have even beat that other circus clown Primo Carnera who was daily alcoholic (like Andre the Giant) and 100% mafioso controlled. The ‘ambling alp’ was an awful boxer with gigantism or acromegaly (like Andre the Giant). He was promoted as a monster because of his size, but he was really clumsy and couldn`t punch with his full weight, he was completely exposed by Joe Louis who easily battered Primo into submission.