I switched from the Galaxy Fold 4 to the Pixel fold when I realized Samsung was not going to give us a wider cover screen on the fold 5. I was a big surface duo fan, but when Microsoft decided to let that phone die again I switched to the Samsung Fold. I am 1 week in on my pixel fold and Loving it.
Easy... pixel fold has a year old tensor 2 chip which is mid range at best. Fold 5 snap 8 gen 2..right there the samsung wins. Pixel has a better outer screen for sure and that 5x optical zoom is nice but thats all the pixel has on the fold. I think Google should have priced is much more conservativy..like the pixel 7 pro..i had no problem dropping $1500 on that (im in canada) my S23 ultra 1tb was $2500... the same difference in price or close to it should have been there between the pixel fold and fold 5
I find it legitimately hilarious that people pick the pixel for the front display ON A FOLDING PHONE 😭 this is why I bought the fold 5 the front display is incredible for calls and quick bits especially to use one handed then if I need to message or something I use the phone as intended and open it! Honestly you're a joke if you buy a folding phone for a big front display.
Have my Z Fold 3 for 2 years now but now using my Pixel Fold is getting better battery life 7 hours on screen time running Android 14 beta. The best battery life of any Foldable.
I love the form factor of the Pixel, but there is no stylus support to take notes which is one of my primary use cases. I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned in the review which I did enjoy.
You have to have to look at things on your own account. I use a stylus with my pixel phone every day. It may not be up to the grades of a SPN from Samsung but a stylus works on the outside screen and inside screen. I haven't got a couple of different apps that deals with notes. Even keep notes from Google works fantastically with it. Start doing your own research.
Excellent point of view. I appreciate the none bias approach to both options. It really comes down to what is important to the individual in a phone and what the user preferences is.
As a predominant Samsung user (I have used other phones) I played with the pixel fold and I will say it's a beautiful device I agree the front screen is awesome and I could buy it just for that with the added bonus of the big screen as and when needed. I had the fold 4 and liked it but it was the front screen in the end that turned me away. So now I have a huge (expensive decision to make in the next couple of days!!! 😬) 🤯 great comparison as usual Mark keep up the good work 😊 PS, I'll let you know my decision 😮😊
I think people can be to hard on the cover display of the fold 5. Yes it's a little thinner. But like anything you get used to it. It would be easier to hold. I had a couple of hours in store. And it ties well now. I still make mistakes on the 23 ultra and that's huge. If I had the 22 ultra still would definitely upgrade. Not sure if I should do it now I have the 23 ultra
@kimbridge5592 Same here, I feel a lot of people have their minds made up on the outer screen, I had the Fold 4, traded it for the Fold 5, and I traded my s23 ultra for the Fold 4, and since I kind of prefer the outer screen of the fold 5, because of the one-handed usability of that screen and like you rightfully said I still was making typing mistakes on the screen of my s23 ultra, but I prefer to use my phone one-handed, that's why I also use swipe type, I love the z fold because it is a more refined and polished phone, I choose peace of mind over anything
Excellent summary and clear comparisons between these two excellent folding phones! Hope you get to try the Xiaomi Mix Fold 2, as more competition is better! My choice, and what I'm using now to type this comment, is based of my experiences. Being a part of the Samsung ecosystem, from way back to the mobile Microsoft OS and stylus based Samsung Omnia SGH-i900, to the Note II & 3, S6 Edge, S7 Edge, S10+, and S21 Ultra, I've familriased myself with the multifunctional ethos and refinement that Samsung offers. So, I chose to outright purchase the fifth generation of Samsung folding tech, Galaxy Z Fold5, and I'm immensely enjoying doing what I do (multitasking) and watching content on the bigger screen (like your video now!), whilst relegating other simple tasks to the slim front screen (triage notifications or perform simple web searches). I'm also an advent stylus user, and looking back at all of my phones, including the Z Fold5, I'm on my fifth stylus-based smartphone! To me, Samsung stands alone in regards to their in-built features for productivity, efficency, and entertainment prowess. That's not a slight to other manufacturers, but Samsung have been improving their internal software tech since the SGH-i900 (first use of Touchwiz, but over Microsoft OS!) and, in my opinion, Note 1. I'm also glad Samsung ditched the older Touchwiz for One UI in 2019 via the debut of the S10 and Note 10 series. I'm glad other companies compete hardware and software wise, as this forces everyone to continuously improve. However, as much as hardware specs gets all the limelight, I think software sometimes takes a back seat, despite this being the core area most of us use when we use smartphones as daily drivers. This core area is why I considered the Samsung Galaxy Z Fold way back in 2019, but I couldn't justify the myriad core issues it had. Up until 2021, when the Z Fold3 was released, I was still unsure, but glad that it (and both later Z Fold4 and Z Fold5), had stylus support. Though I didn't get the Z Fold3, I did pick up from that year the S Pen Pro, to use with my 2021 S21 Ultra alongside the non-Bluetooth S Pen for S21 Ultra. My hope was to have the S Pen Pro ready for the Z Fold4. Unfortunately, I was still unsatisfied with the 2022 release of the Z Fold4. The major issues I had with all the four folding phones was a mix of hardware camera specs and hinge gap design. I disliked these. However, this year, I made a realisation that, though I do take pics, especially in RAW format and edit in Adobe Photoshop Lightroom, entirely on my Samsung phones, that this is now my least used activity. I multitask or stream content over 90% of the time on my phone, especially the S21 Ultra and with both S Pen's. When the Z Fold5 was released, even with almost no camera change to Z Fold4 and incremental updates, the far more powerful processor and new hinge (no gap) design won me over. As my first folding phone, I get five years of refinement and folding software features into one package, and do more of what I love. I cannot even explain the sheer joy and ease in using the Z Fold5, advancing all of my previous, now second-nature, experiences I have had using Samsung phone software features. No, the Z Fold5 is not perfect, but vs competitors such as Google Pixel Fold and Xiaomi Mix Fold 2, the Z Fold5 is perfect for me! 😊 For me, the Z Fold5 is the production-ready version of the prototype Z Fold's 1 - 4; the most polished version. Yet, I do not think Samsung should iterate again, Z Fold6 ought to be released with a new design and new features, especially integrated S Pen with Bluetooth, and have the same camera modules as the upcoming S24 flagship.
So far I've really enjoyed my Pixel fold! I've used foldables for a while now (my first was the original z flip) and I love them! I really enjoy the bigger display screen and in my opinion the camera is superb. Great review!
Is that new fold 5 hinges more durable? In Wyoming extreme weather the fold 4 screen protector separates in the crease or the flex glass cracks in middle. Also issues where the fold main screen flexible connections come loose over time
Great analysis Mark. I think the most compelling reason to get a fold 5 over pixel fold is the first iteration over 5th iteration. I got my first fold with z fold 4 when I was sure that it was not a failed product. Google will definitely be a much better purchase in a couple of years time.
I have a ZFold5, love it, but I love pixels and so close to buying a Pixel Fold. I don’t need both but I’m going to have to have both and pick one and sell the other. I find google’s own software so beautiful and a joy to use.
I would love to get the pixel fold but it being first Gen and I've seen a few people already having inner screen issues, I'll wait until next year. The z fold series has an unusable outer screen for typing, and nearly impossible to type on the inner screen on the go. That's a hard pass for me. I have the z flip 5. Had the z fold 3 and flip 3 and saw people having issues on the flip... Couldnt deal with the typing on the fold so I sold both and got an s23 ultra. I'm using the flip 5 as my daily and loving it so far. The prices of both folds doesn't bother me. I get mine on payments and they are 40 to 50 bucks a month usd. But yeah... The fold 5 is a pass for me. I just wish samsung would put out something closer to the form of the pixel fold. Ive been with samsung for over a decade and hate trying to retrain myself on operating systems lol
A few people out of 1000's does not warrant a problem especially if you look at how many regular everyday devices come out with issues dealing with displays and other hardware issues, you only live once I say😊, go and check it out and be sure to put android 14 on it, you will enjoy it I promise and get you a stylus with the soft tips that are round, they work very well on both screens if you enjoy a stylus. All else fails return it and get your money back👌👌
I mainly use an iPhone 14 Pro Max and have been interested in folding phones for some time now. I bought a Microsoft Surface Duo phone, the hardware was fantastic, but everything else was a below-par experience. I bought a Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4. It's an excellent idea; the software and hardware are both excellent. The only issue is it's not an iPhone; I can not access all my day to day documents; I only use it for multi-tasking when I don't want to carry my laptop or iPad Pro with me. Apple, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE bring a folding phone out!
I have a similar situation. I’ve been sticking with an iPhone 13 Pro and iPad mini 6 combo for now, but I really want a foldable to replace them with one device. I used a Fold 3 for awhile but ended up going back to Apple for a variety of reasons.
There is little chance that Apple will release a foldable phone anytime soon. Their first folding tech is likely an iPad and this is far more sensible than 8-inch foldable phones as we can get aspect ratios that we want and have a much larger inner display to do more on. Sadly, Apple recently tested Samsung displays and found their quality not there yet and long term they do not pass Apple's strict lifespans. So, Samsung were told to improve them. I suspect 2026/7 at the earliest for a folding iPad and later still for an iPhone Fold assuming that this segment grows enough for Apple to make it pay.
If you consume a lot of video content, which of these two would you prioritise please, @MarkEllisReviews? Secondary question, how do you stand them up for video viewing when in tablet mode?
I have been trying to decide which one to get but think now I really have decided. I have tried the Samsung Pixel Pro 8, BUT, I know it's not a Fold but I just cannot get to grips with all the faff on the screen and everything that comes up every time I try to do anything. At least the Samsung phones are straight forward I think. Although I like the size of the Pixel Fold, I think I have to get the Samsung Fold. I thought of waiting until the new Samsung Fold 6 comes out hopefully this month, but it is not going to be much bigger and the crease is not any better apparently. Oh well, decision made 😊
The form factor was the deciding point for me. I had always wanted a foldable, but i just cannot stand the tall, narrow shape of the Z fold. When i saw the size and shape of the pixel fold i just couldn't say no.
If the folds were as reliable as any normal phone we would all use them(except maybe women or men with small hands? ), assuning the prices were close, say a $200 premium. I bought a fold 3 used that looked brand new for $479 and told myself "if it lasts 2+ years i cannot go back to non folding" but sadly its got a line through middle as i type this at 1.5 years of use. Being used i wasn't sure about care+ and the $250 minimum for replacement on damaged inner screens meant it wasnt going to save me much if any after the $12 a month. I did drop it A LOT and even woke up laying on it opened up(freaked me out the first 20 times),😂so it wasnt babied. I am now looking at a fold 5, but i think the screen not having a close gap on the 5 is worse for reliability since its just a sharper corner/crease when closed. I really like the pixels front screen ratio(like you i wish they made all phones at 6.8" with this ratio). I also feel like folding the screen long ways makes more sense as the crease itself is shorter(why samsung put the crease on longest axis?), and with the thicker bezel possibly more durable? My screen seems to flicker when i touch the bottom crease area.
My carrier gave me $1,000 trade in value on my three year old Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra. Samsung only offered me $400 for a trade in. I do love my Z Fold 5. I have seen several battery tests and every one finds the Samsung phone to have better battery life, usually way better! Not sure why you say otherwise unless you tested both? I don't have the Pixel so I can't say. But the battery life of the Z Fold 5 is way better than the Note 20 Ultra and there are a lot of complaints about the Pixel chip overheating and not allowing max graphics on newer games. In my case, I'm firmly entrenched in the Samsung ecosystem so the Z Fold was the only foldable worth consideration but I can see why some people want a larger, more square front screen, just not me with my tiny Trump hands.
To be fair i must give google fold applause for their first foldable smartphone, come on compare to what samsung first z fold phone has. In reality both z5 and pixel fold cost a hefty lots of money and if were to choose between those 2, i'll go for z5 caused its more refined relatively after years of refinement they had made on their foldable models, that been said i happy with my z5.
I have a iPhone 14 pro max but thinking about upgrading to a fold just not sure if I should go with the pixel or Samsung I do prefer the wider front display on the pixel fold that has my interest peaked but I usually switch between iPhone & Samsung frequently
I have a 14 pro max and pixel fold. I had the fold 4 and as much as I love and enjoy Samsung I didn't like my inability to use the front screen comfortably. This is personal preference as the phone in comparison to the pixel is more polished and optimized for the folding screen market. I very much enjoy the pixel fold. I use both screens pretty equally which is nice for daily use. Wish it had some of the bells and whistles like Samsung but considering Apple can be limiting it doesn't bother me that the pixel isn't as customizable. I just changed launchers so it's pretty similar to what I'm used to from Samsung. You'd enjoy either foldable but it's honestly preference on what you care most about. Usability while folded was a big draw for me so I got the pixel. I feel like if I recommended a first time foldable to anyone it would be Samsung. Especially for the price.
Iv got fold 3 the only thing that I can see is the fold is hard to use the front to text or what's app the Google looks more easy to use the front display
Z Fold 5 is definitely more refine with a corpo feel, it feel comfortable in hand and in my pants pocket due to the thinner screen after being folded. But Huawei Mate X5 fold is more powerful, thinner & lighter than both of these phones in terms of hardware & battery life.
@@damonquebeans zfold 5 no contest. Better multitasking. Spen. And I prefer the aspect ratio of both screens. I understand the inside screen can be rotated to achieve the same aspect ratio.
I love my samsung fold, but camara in samsung fold especially underscreen selfie is wowful, defo not subjective , i swear my samsung edge 7 was better camara and how long agao was that. I always loved samsung camaras, untill fold camaras which are basically unusable , i actaually bought comapct camara its that bad, so im going to have to leave samsung and go to pixel fold. Plus every samsung fold i had has had to be repaired many times by samsung this fold 4 i have now been back to samsung 4 times, always starts with dot on fold crease then spreads.
Watching this on my first foldable ever which is the Z Fold 5. And, I gotta say I am glad I chose this over the Pixel Fold. The Z Fold 5 is an absolute monster of a phone for aesthetics, productivity, and the amazing photography and videography. The most charming experience with the Z Fold 5 is the software experience, which is the aspect where the pixel fold is years behind and below average. The Z Fold 5 is a computer in your hands with 5 cameras, the best display on the market, and world-class software experience.
A deeper dive into the software probably would have been good. Most comparisons I’ve seen mention how the Pixel Fold doesn’t stretch apps to fit the large screen like the Samsung Folds do, which can be a huge annoyance for many people. It’s been said that Google is doing this to force app devs to update their apps rather than doing it for them but it’s definitely harms the experience when a bunch of apps only show a skinny portion of the large screen.
You just have to reorientate the Pixel Fold to portrait and that will mimic the Galaxy Fold. This is a typical overblown YT issue and moot if you use common sense. Having used the Pixel Fold this is so not relevant and I do wonder sometimes whether Samsung emails YT creators and asks them to bring up stuff like this to troll Google?
Srsly dont care how good the pixel is... as soon as you open that screen with thicker bezels than my laptop... sorry ,but no tnx. Call me shallow if u want, but you have to lie to yourself if you say u dont care about the looks. Its incredibly ugly i dont understand how ot passed the approval manufacturing...
Z fold camera is trash. I have the z fold 4 and I have a motorola phone I use for work. Its the $2k camera phone look like crap. Looking to move one. Samsung falling apart!!
@MarkEllisReviews yes, pixel since June 27th Z-Fold 5 since August 7th. The pixel never lasts more than 4.5 hours, Z-fold 5 lasts 7 hours with the same usage
I find it legitimately hilarious that people pick the pixel for the front display ON A FOLDING PHONE 😭 this is why I bought the fold 5 the front display is incredible for calls and quick bits especially to use one handed then if I need to message or something I use the phone as intended and open it! Honestly you're a joke if you buy a folding phone for a big front display
@@MarkEllisReviews Sorry I'm not following your mad logic just seems legitimately insane to have a big front display on a folding phone at that point don't buy the fold 🤣 Also not that I have to prove myself to you I get outside and I've seen a good majority of the world I personally find it severely overrated.
@@raisedservices9540 right, I’m with you now. So you like the Pixel Fold but you’re not a fan of its users. Excellent. Thanks for clarifying and making note of that publicly for the world to see. Have a great day!
I have an iPhone 14 Pro Max, mini iPad and an older iPad Pro with keyboard. I use these for both home and work. Apple Notes transformed the way I work, so I will remain with Apple until retirement, if that ever comes. However, should Apple finally reward us with a foldable that works with some form of the Apple pencil, I will likely go that way. In the meantime, both the Samsung and Google foldables look like works in progress.
What gets your pick out of these two?
I switched from the Galaxy Fold 4 to the Pixel fold when I realized Samsung was not going to give us a wider cover screen on the fold 5. I was a big surface duo fan, but when Microsoft decided to let that phone die again I switched to the Samsung Fold. I am 1 week in on my pixel fold and Loving it.
Pixel Fold hands down because of the form factor and better picture quality.
Easy... pixel fold has a year old tensor 2 chip which is mid range at best. Fold 5 snap 8 gen 2..right there the samsung wins. Pixel has a better outer screen for sure and that 5x optical zoom is nice but thats all the pixel has on the fold. I think Google should have priced is much more conservativy..like the pixel 7 pro..i had no problem dropping $1500 on that (im in canada) my S23 ultra 1tb was $2500... the same difference in price or close to it should have been there between the pixel fold and fold 5
Pixel fold for me, so glad I bought one amazing phone
I find it legitimately hilarious that people pick the pixel for the front display ON A FOLDING PHONE 😭 this is why I bought the fold 5 the front display is incredible for calls and quick bits especially to use one handed then if I need to message or something I use the phone as intended and open it!
Honestly you're a joke if you buy a folding phone for a big front display.
Have my Z Fold 3 for 2 years now but now using my Pixel Fold is getting better battery life 7 hours on screen time running Android 14 beta. The best battery life of any Foldable.
I love the form factor of the Pixel, but there is no stylus support to take notes which is one of my primary use cases. I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned in the review which I did enjoy.
You have to have to look at things on your own account. I use a stylus with my pixel phone every day. It may not be up to the grades of a SPN from Samsung but a stylus works on the outside screen and inside screen. I haven't got a couple of different apps that deals with notes. Even keep notes from Google works fantastically with it. Start doing your own research.
Excellent point of view. I appreciate the none bias approach to both options. It really comes down to what is important to the individual in a phone and what the user preferences is.
Thank you! I love comments like this.
As a predominant Samsung user (I have used other phones) I played with the pixel fold and I will say it's a beautiful device I agree the front screen is awesome and I could buy it just for that with the added bonus of the big screen as and when needed. I had the fold 4 and liked it but it was the front screen in the end that turned me away. So now I have a huge (expensive decision to make in the next couple of days!!! 😬) 🤯 great comparison as usual Mark keep up the good work 😊 PS, I'll let you know my decision 😮😊
So what was your decision? lol
Pixel 8 pro
Watching this on my Z Fold 5
Me too!
Same here
Same!
Me too
Watching on my pixel fold
Yesterday my Z Fold 5 arrived to replace my Pixel 7 Pro. Love the Fold and with really small hands, the thin cover screen is fine for me.
I think people can be to hard on the cover display of the fold 5. Yes it's a little thinner. But like anything you get used to it. It would be easier to hold. I had a couple of hours in store. And it ties well now. I still make mistakes on the 23 ultra and that's huge. If I had the 22 ultra still would definitely upgrade. Not sure if I should do it now I have the 23 ultra
@kimbridge5592 Same here, I feel a lot of people have their minds made up on the outer screen, I had the Fold 4, traded it for the Fold 5, and I traded my s23 ultra for the Fold 4, and since I kind of prefer the outer screen of the fold 5, because of the one-handed usability of that screen and like you rightfully said I still was making typing mistakes on the screen of my s23 ultra, but I prefer to use my phone one-handed, that's why I also use swipe type, I love the z fold because it is a more refined and polished phone, I choose peace of mind over anything
People forget yo mention DEX. One of the most underrated features of Samsung phones.
Excellent summary and clear comparisons between these two excellent folding phones!
Hope you get to try the Xiaomi Mix Fold 2, as more competition is better!
My choice, and what I'm using now to type this comment, is based of my experiences.
Being a part of the Samsung ecosystem, from way back to the mobile Microsoft OS and stylus based Samsung Omnia SGH-i900, to the Note II & 3, S6 Edge, S7 Edge, S10+, and S21 Ultra, I've familriased myself with the multifunctional ethos and refinement that Samsung offers.
So, I chose to outright purchase the fifth generation of Samsung folding tech, Galaxy Z Fold5, and I'm immensely enjoying doing what I do (multitasking) and watching content on the bigger screen (like your video now!), whilst relegating other simple tasks to the slim front screen (triage notifications or perform simple web searches).
I'm also an advent stylus user, and looking back at all of my phones, including the Z Fold5, I'm on my fifth stylus-based smartphone!
To me, Samsung stands alone in regards to their in-built features for productivity, efficency, and entertainment prowess.
That's not a slight to other manufacturers, but Samsung have been improving their internal software tech since the SGH-i900 (first use of Touchwiz, but over Microsoft OS!) and, in my opinion, Note 1. I'm also glad Samsung ditched the older Touchwiz for One UI in 2019 via the debut of the S10 and Note 10 series.
I'm glad other companies compete hardware and software wise, as this forces everyone to continuously improve. However, as much as hardware specs gets all the limelight, I think software sometimes takes a back seat, despite this being the core area most of us use when we use smartphones as daily drivers.
This core area is why I considered the Samsung Galaxy Z Fold way back in 2019, but I couldn't justify the myriad core issues it had.
Up until 2021, when the Z Fold3 was released, I was still unsure, but glad that it (and both later Z Fold4 and Z Fold5), had stylus support. Though I didn't get the Z Fold3, I did pick up from that year the S Pen Pro, to use with my 2021 S21 Ultra alongside the non-Bluetooth S Pen for S21 Ultra. My hope was to have the S Pen Pro ready for the Z Fold4.
Unfortunately, I was still unsatisfied with the 2022 release of the Z Fold4.
The major issues I had with all the four folding phones was a mix of hardware camera specs and hinge gap design. I disliked these.
However, this year, I made a realisation that, though I do take pics, especially in RAW format and edit in Adobe Photoshop Lightroom, entirely on my Samsung phones, that this is now my least used activity.
I multitask or stream content over 90% of the time on my phone, especially the S21 Ultra and with both S Pen's.
When the Z Fold5 was released, even with almost no camera change to Z Fold4 and incremental updates, the far more powerful processor and new hinge (no gap) design won me over. As my first folding phone, I get five years of refinement and folding software features into one package, and do more of what I love.
I cannot even explain the sheer joy and ease in using the Z Fold5, advancing all of my previous, now second-nature, experiences I have had using Samsung phone software features.
No, the Z Fold5 is not perfect, but vs competitors such as Google Pixel Fold and Xiaomi Mix Fold 2, the Z Fold5 is perfect for me! 😊
For me, the Z Fold5 is the production-ready version of the prototype Z Fold's 1 - 4; the most polished version.
Yet, I do not think Samsung should iterate again, Z Fold6 ought to be released with a new design and new features, especially integrated S Pen with Bluetooth, and have the same camera modules as the upcoming S24 flagship.
So far I've really enjoyed my Pixel fold! I've used foldables for a while now (my first was the original z flip) and I love them! I really enjoy the bigger display screen and in my opinion the camera is superb. Great review!
What are your thoughts on app that are not optimized such as weather or ESPN if you use them
@@VincentWestberg that is one that does bother me. Hopefully they can start getting developers to optimize their apps for the fold.
Is that new fold 5 hinges more durable? In Wyoming extreme weather the fold 4 screen protector separates in the crease or the flex glass cracks in middle. Also issues where the fold main screen flexible connections come loose over time
Yes
The battery life are definitely not the same mate..... z fold far exceeds in battery and standy. Ive gotten 9 hrs of screen time on the fold 5.
Are you running both phones regularly?
Great analysis Mark. I think the most compelling reason to get a fold 5 over pixel fold is the first iteration over 5th iteration. I got my first fold with z fold 4 when I was sure that it was not a failed product. Google will definitely be a much better purchase in a couple of years time.
Thanks for the kind words!
Pixel fold front screen more useful but no dex , inferior software, weaker body, first iteration for the cost
I have a ZFold5, love it, but I love pixels and so close to buying a Pixel Fold. I don’t need both but I’m going to have to have both and pick one and sell the other. I find google’s own software so beautiful and a joy to use.
I would love to get the pixel fold but it being first Gen and I've seen a few people already having inner screen issues, I'll wait until next year. The z fold series has an unusable outer screen for typing, and nearly impossible to type on the inner screen on the go. That's a hard pass for me. I have the z flip 5. Had the z fold 3 and flip 3 and saw people having issues on the flip... Couldnt deal with the typing on the fold so I sold both and got an s23 ultra. I'm using the flip 5 as my daily and loving it so far. The prices of both folds doesn't bother me. I get mine on payments and they are 40 to 50 bucks a month usd. But yeah... The fold 5 is a pass for me. I just wish samsung would put out something closer to the form of the pixel fold. Ive been with samsung for over a decade and hate trying to retrain myself on operating systems lol
A few people out of 1000's does not warrant a problem especially if you look at how many regular everyday devices come out with issues dealing with displays and other hardware issues, you only live once I say😊, go and check it out and be sure to put android 14 on it, you will enjoy it I promise and get you a stylus with the soft tips that are round, they work very well on both screens if you enjoy a stylus. All else fails return it and get your money back👌👌
Good review. The Samsung longevity in the market was the deciding factor for me.
Thank you!
I went with the google pixel fold. So impressed!
I mainly use an iPhone 14 Pro Max and have been interested in folding phones for some time now. I bought a Microsoft Surface Duo phone, the hardware was fantastic, but everything else was a below-par experience. I bought a Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4. It's an excellent idea; the software and hardware are both excellent. The only issue is it's not an iPhone; I can not access all my day to day documents; I only use it for multi-tasking when I don't want to carry my laptop or iPad Pro with me. Apple, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE bring a folding phone out!
Apple will bring one out eventually and will be a ridiculous price
I have a similar situation. I’ve been sticking with an iPhone 13 Pro and iPad mini 6 combo for now, but I really want a foldable to replace them with one device. I used a Fold 3 for awhile but ended up going back to Apple for a variety of reasons.
There is little chance that Apple will release a foldable phone anytime soon. Their first folding tech is likely an iPad and this is far more sensible than 8-inch foldable phones as we can get aspect ratios that we want and have a much larger inner display to do more on.
Sadly, Apple recently tested Samsung displays and found their quality not there yet and long term they do not pass Apple's strict lifespans. So, Samsung were told to improve them. I suspect 2026/7 at the earliest for a folding iPad and later still for an iPhone Fold assuming that this segment grows enough for Apple to make it pay.
F apple, sheep
If you consume a lot of video content, which of these two would you prioritise please, @MarkEllisReviews?
Secondary question, how do you stand them up for video viewing when in tablet mode?
I have been trying to decide which one to get but think now I really have decided. I have tried the Samsung Pixel Pro 8, BUT, I know it's not a Fold but I just cannot get to grips with all the faff on the screen and everything that comes up every time I try to do anything. At least the Samsung phones are straight forward I think. Although I like the size of the Pixel Fold, I think I have to get the Samsung Fold. I thought of waiting until the new Samsung Fold 6 comes out hopefully this month, but it is not going to be much bigger and the crease is not any better apparently. Oh well, decision made 😊
The form factor was the deciding point for me. I had always wanted a foldable, but i just cannot stand the tall, narrow shape of the Z fold. When i saw the size and shape of the pixel fold i just couldn't say no.
I purchased a fold 5 but after watching so many reviews it makes me want to enjoy the pixel fold... I'm hoping my wallet can take it!
If the folds were as reliable as any normal phone we would all use them(except maybe women or men with small hands? ), assuning the prices were close, say a $200 premium. I bought a fold 3 used that looked brand new for $479 and told myself "if it lasts 2+ years i cannot go back to non folding" but sadly its got a line through middle as i type this at 1.5 years of use. Being used i wasn't sure about care+ and the $250 minimum for replacement on damaged inner screens meant it wasnt going to save me much if any after the $12 a month. I did drop it A LOT and even woke up laying on it opened up(freaked me out the first 20 times),😂so it wasnt babied. I am now looking at a fold 5, but i think the screen not having a close gap on the 5 is worse for reliability since its just a sharper corner/crease when closed. I really like the pixels front screen ratio(like you i wish they made all phones at 6.8" with this ratio). I also feel like folding the screen long ways makes more sense as the crease itself is shorter(why samsung put the crease on longest axis?), and with the thicker bezel possibly more durable? My screen seems to flicker when i touch the bottom crease area.
Pixel fold for me 😉
”Who’s Zed?”
“Zed’s dead honey”
I like the shape of the Google and the vanilla Android. I want the S pen though for pressure sensitivity
I'm stuck trying to decide
My carrier gave me $1,000 trade in value on my three year old Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra. Samsung only offered me $400 for a trade in. I do love my Z Fold 5. I have seen several battery tests and every one finds the Samsung phone to have better battery life, usually way better! Not sure why you say otherwise unless you tested both? I don't have the Pixel so I can't say. But the battery life of the Z Fold 5 is way better than the Note 20 Ultra and there are a lot of complaints about the Pixel chip overheating and not allowing max graphics on newer games. In my case, I'm firmly entrenched in the Samsung ecosystem so the Z Fold was the only foldable worth consideration but I can see why some people want a larger, more square front screen, just not me with my tiny Trump hands.
I have medium still looks to wide
To be fair i must give google fold applause for their first foldable smartphone, come on compare to what samsung first z fold phone has. In reality both z5 and pixel fold cost a hefty lots of money and if were to choose between those 2, i'll go for z5 caused its more refined relatively after years of refinement they had made on their foldable models, that been said i happy with my z5.
How long did it take people to get use to the candy bar format? I had the fold 4, had it for a couple of days and sent it back. Hated it.
Would love to hear your thoughts and see your take on reviewing the latest Zenfone 10! Birth child of your beloved Pixel and 13 Mini.
As usual, Mark, a great comparison. As an Apple fanboy I’d be inclined to go for the Pixel but those prices 😱🙈
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@MarkEllisReviewsbald simp
Zfold 5 all the way baby 🎉
I get my pixel fold tomorrow cant wait
Though one! Both look great!
The brightness of the screens.
I have a iPhone 14 pro max but thinking about upgrading to a fold just not sure if I should go with the pixel or Samsung I do prefer the wider front display on the pixel fold that has my interest peaked but I usually switch between iPhone & Samsung frequently
I have a 14 pro max and pixel fold. I had the fold 4 and as much as I love and enjoy Samsung I didn't like my inability to use the front screen comfortably. This is personal preference as the phone in comparison to the pixel is more polished and optimized for the folding screen market. I very much enjoy the pixel fold. I use both screens pretty equally which is nice for daily use. Wish it had some of the bells and whistles like Samsung but considering Apple can be limiting it doesn't bother me that the pixel isn't as customizable. I just changed launchers so it's pretty similar to what I'm used to from Samsung. You'd enjoy either foldable but it's honestly preference on what you care most about. Usability while folded was a big draw for me so I got the pixel. I feel like if I recommended a first time foldable to anyone it would be Samsung. Especially for the price.
So out of the 2 wich one you would pick?
Iv got fold 3 the only thing that I can see is the fold is hard to use the front to text or what's app the Google looks more easy to use the front display
Z Fold 5 is definitely more refine with a corpo feel, it feel comfortable in hand and in my pants pocket due to the thinner screen after being folded. But Huawei Mate X5 fold is more powerful, thinner & lighter than both of these phones in terms of hardware & battery life.
Right now I use a $35 Moto Z power lol...and it is awesome.
I have Fold 3 for 3 years. At this point in February 2024, I see no feasible reason to update to Fold 5- waiting for Fold 6.
I own both devices, but I came here for the Zed.
Which device you like better
@@damonquebeans zfold 5 no contest. Better multitasking. Spen. And I prefer the aspect ratio of both screens. I understand the inside screen can be rotated to achieve the same aspect ratio.
@@eriktredthank you for that
Can this replace my old Psion Organiser?
Yes.
Ooo you got pics??
Google Pixel Fold but I’m going to wait for the 2nd gen
I'm waiting for the z fold 6
I love my Zed fold 6
I love my samsung fold, but camara in samsung fold especially underscreen selfie is wowful, defo not subjective , i swear my samsung edge 7 was better camara and how long agao was that. I always loved samsung camaras, untill fold camaras which are basically unusable , i actaually bought comapct camara its that bad, so im going to have to leave samsung and go to pixel fold. Plus every samsung fold i had has had to be repaired many times by samsung this fold 4 i have now been back to samsung 4 times, always starts with dot on fold crease then spreads.
Pixel fold is best balanced phone
Watching this in Pixel fold
Very nice video
Thank you!
Zed > Zee 👍🏻
Watching this on my first foldable ever which is the Z Fold 5. And, I gotta say I am glad I chose this over the Pixel Fold. The Z Fold 5 is an absolute monster of a phone for aesthetics, productivity, and the amazing photography and videography. The most charming experience with the Z Fold 5 is the software experience, which is the aspect where the pixel fold is years behind and below average. The Z Fold 5 is a computer in your hands with 5 cameras, the best display on the market, and world-class software experience.
If I wasn’t only 6 months into a 24 month Apple Watch Ultra, I’d be getting the Pixel Fold when my iPhone 13 PM payments finish in a couple of months!
"Is the choice ez" yes. There isn't no comparison. The shitxel cannot compete. It's a toy
A deeper dive into the software probably would have been good. Most comparisons I’ve seen mention how the Pixel Fold doesn’t stretch apps to fit the large screen like the Samsung Folds do, which can be a huge annoyance for many people. It’s been said that Google is doing this to force app devs to update their apps rather than doing it for them but it’s definitely harms the experience when a bunch of apps only show a skinny portion of the large screen.
You just have to reorientate the Pixel Fold to portrait and that will mimic the Galaxy Fold. This is a typical overblown YT issue and moot if you use common sense. Having used the Pixel Fold this is so not relevant and I do wonder sometimes whether Samsung emails YT creators and asks them to bring up stuff like this to troll Google?
@@andyH_England Samsung doesn't do that. No brands do that, mate.
That drop was funny hahahahahahahah but nice video
Srsly dont care how good the pixel is... as soon as you open that screen with thicker bezels than my laptop... sorry ,but no tnx. Call me shallow if u want, but you have to lie to yourself if you say u dont care about the looks. Its incredibly ugly i dont understand how ot passed the approval manufacturing...
It is subjective, mate - no one is "lying to themselves" if they have an opinion on something.
Looks will be very low on the list of priorities fro most buyers.
Z fold camera is trash. I have the z fold 4 and I have a motorola phone I use for work. Its the $2k camera phone look like crap. Looking to move one. Samsung falling apart!!
Samsung all the way, pixel need more 2 years to compete
Fold 5 1 TB is $3549 in NZ... fkn lol.
Battery life is NOT the same…. The pixel is pretty awful at that metric.
Have you used both devices extensively?
@MarkEllisReviews yes, pixel since June 27th Z-Fold 5 since August 7th. The pixel never lasts more than 4.5 hours, Z-fold 5 lasts 7 hours with the same usage
@@ttrotary7 sounds like you have a defective Pixel Fold - I’d get it looked at by Google.
@MarkEllisReviews that's everyone's favorite reply... it's not defective, it doesn't have good battery life.
@@ttrotary7 there’s a reason lots of people are suggesting that. Equally, your Fold5 battery life sounds awful.
I find it legitimately hilarious that people pick the pixel for the front display ON A FOLDING PHONE 😭 this is why I bought the fold 5 the front display is incredible for calls and quick bits especially to use one handed then if I need to message or something I use the phone as intended and open it!
Honestly you're a joke if you buy a folding phone for a big front display
Oh dear, bless you. Please leave the house and see the world.
@@MarkEllisReviews Sorry I'm not following your mad logic just seems legitimately insane to have a big front display on a folding phone at that point don't buy the fold 🤣
Also not that I have to prove myself to you I get outside and I've seen a good majority of the world I personally find it severely overrated.
@@raisedservices9540 given by how much portable telephones make you laugh… I’d definitely stay in, with hindsight. Good choice.
@@MarkEllisReviews Wow no offence but you're really slow on this one it's not the device itself that makes me laugh it's the sheer irony.
@@raisedservices9540 right, I’m with you now. So you like the Pixel Fold but you’re not a fan of its users. Excellent. Thanks for clarifying and making note of that publicly for the world to see. Have a great day!
I have an iPhone 14 Pro Max, mini iPad and an older iPad Pro with keyboard. I use these for both home and work. Apple Notes transformed the way I work, so I will remain with Apple until retirement, if that ever comes. However, should Apple finally reward us with a foldable that works with some form of the Apple pencil, I will likely go that way. In the meantime, both the Samsung and Google foldables look like works in progress.