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chingi5 If you have a decent enough internet you can stream at least 1080p60 if the datacenter is nearby. Latency is almost all about how close you are to the datacenter while stream quality is all about your bandwidth.
After seeing a 2080 Ti getting hammered I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
It hurt so bad. To watch the Hammer 🔨 come down. I was like Noooooooo. Just say it's not so. When I replayed it. My heart ♥️ almost stopped. Another one in Tech Heaven..
Once again, TiN is dressed as a prisoner, this time he's forced to bust rocks with a hammer. Also, suppose Dave from EEVblog is getting a kickback for licensing TiN-CAD?
@@GamersNexus At least this time you won't have three almost identical CPU's and start with the most expensive one. ;) I have already made up my mind about one thing: I hate it that AMD put the TDP of that 3700X so low and put the 3800X at a $70 higher price. That 3800X does not make any sense (I predict a big price cut before the end of 2019) but now you have this artificial limitation for the 3700X because of the hard limit of the XFR (maximum 0.2 GHz. higher than the boost) and if you loose XFR when you manually overclock or have some kind of automatic overclocking like on the Intel platform.
@@GamersNexus you have no idea how much I want to see the 3900x vs the 9900k with a lot of game benchmarks. As well see what the 12 core does with the radeon 7 bandwidth. I like to see radeon 7 taken to its highest oc potential vs Jay2cents.
Also, they could not get a catastrophic failure to happen. That's actually a good thing. NVIDIA and EVGA could be open to litigation (even if unsuccessful in the end) if it was found that the products could be forced to explode under any circumstances.
BlueScreen error 0xc00137 - {Fatal Mind undarstanding error} Dumping physical memory .... 100% Trying to understand the hammer..... FAILED! Attempting to restart..... BRAIN™ Bios v. 3.0 Minddows........ Something went wrong with your Mind and the system needed to restart. BSOD {Fatal Mind understanding error} Code: 0xc00137 Was problem fixed: Not sure
We called this "Releasing the blue smoke" back in the day. It was an old IBM joke... the chips are powered by IBM magic and when we blow one up, it releases it as blue smoke. It became a meme for any chip getting smoked, not just IBM. Not as flashy as blowing up tantalum capacitors (always fun to do that), but roughly equivalent to flushing $$ down the toilet considering how expensive some of those chips were. The other things we did... put humerous silk screen under the big chips for the benefit of tinkerers whod pull the boards apart. And in other places. One of my friends always wrote "Help, I'm being held hostage inside an EPROM!" on the silk-screen. -Matt
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of transistors cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."
That diagram reminds me of my days as a TV repair technician. One of the things our instructor taught us was that every electronic component comes packed with smoke. If the smoke escapes, the component dies:)
@@Jaymiecain1 engineering samples arnt allowed to be sold in any way, the die would have been an engineering sample given from nvidia to evga so that could make their pcb
Tin is the man! He goes into great detail explaining every question and is very gracious. I'm glad you guys were able to have him on these videos. It made for very educational and interesting content. Good work!
“And lo, did Tech Jesus and an Archangel of Overclocking sacrifice the holy GPUs on the altar of test bench so all may learn of their ways. Ye, though many a watcher of deed did cringe in horror, they were better for the gain of knowledge. And it was good.” I really need to stop watching things before going to bed...
"Keep English please" on that FLIR... as I recall, those are ridiculously easy to switch language on unintentionally, something like holding the power on button a moment too long.
0:59 i like the perfectly placed "product placement" (and lamp) around the edge of the mat to hide the fact that if those items werent there, the mat would just roll itself back up haha. new great hobby, extreme overheating, but with that kingpin stYle haha.
I don´t know why but everytime I see Tin and Kingpin I feel like they are a team of underground spies working borderless crimes and all this graphics cards and overclocking business is just a hobby and a reason to travel the world.
4:25 usually, PCBs have thicker outer layers, and thinner inner layers. Unless you have a random Chinese shop make them, and find out by a fire that they all ended up being 0.5oz, when you specified the top layer for 2oz.
I wonder if the result would be far more spectacular if the GPU had enough time before overheating to at least boot into an OS and start a bench mark. I would use IPA to cool the GPU, it vaporizes rather quickly, draws a lot of heat with it. But when it all has vaporized, then we have a GPU under full load and practically no cooling. So that should be a lot more energy to create a more dramatic scene.
Drakkar Calethiel 5.0 across all cores, no direct die bs and it goes no higher than about 75c under max load. Gaming it sits around 50-55 so it's all bullshit about i9s burning the world.
the irony is my 970 never randomly stopped outputting video yet my current 580 8g refuses to output to 3/4 of my displays also rip, Steve doesn't approve.
@@shawnpitman876 ive used 4 different hdmi cables and for all results i got only one monitor to work with this card. the 580 4g cards i have work just fine with all of them as well. its not user error, shits not rocket science
Is it possible that you got underwhelming breaking because you are starting from cold and not from some previous testing routine? Great video keep them coming!
I remember before all of this protection, I was doing software work on an Athlon XP system (my grandfather's). I heard a Pinging noise, which was the terrible OEM heatsink metal clip flying off, within a half of a second the screen froze. Fried CPU. Luckily back then there was a local shop close by that gave me an excuse to upgrade the CPU and get back up and running the same day. It most likely happened while I was using it because I ran it much harder than he ever did, so the extra temperature or thermal expansion was just enough for it to let loose. I would imagine a lot of people lost components to this sort of thing back then.
There were some sort of different precautions for the Athlons. On the one hand, you absolutely couldn't run them without a cooler. No throttling implemented apart from emergency motherboard shutdowns which never worked. On the other hand, stomping too heavy of a cooler onto the die, overtightening the cooler, mistightening the cooler, or doing some other wacky stuff could crack the die.
@@previousslayer Yep. Those were the days. It was just the OEM aluminum block, and the metal strap that snapped over the top. It was unexpected, since we weren't physically inside the system anytime recently when it happened. It wasn't long until those days were over. I'm thinking Intel already had protections in place at that time, that a heatsink could be removed without catastrophic failure. Although the XP wasn't new anymore when it happened. It happened right around the Pentium 4 C time.
So not to question TIN or anything...but (at least with older technologies like I'm used to working with) the die is flip chip is actually upside down and the transistors are the closest to the laser etched side that says "nvidia" etc. and the metal is all the colorful shit you see because the light is being reflected/diffracted through the routing layers. You call it flip chip because normally you have the metal layers on top and then you wire bond it out to a lead frame (like the packages with legs) but in a flip chip you basically do something like the BGA pattern on the chip itself then flip it onto the substrate that you use for redistribution so it can be put on a regular PCB
A moment of silence for the dies departed, may tech jesus bless their substrates p.s: this could be a series in itself, blowing up expensive stuff for science
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Gamers Nexus no
CONGRATS for being a true hardware channel!!!
Have a chat with the guy who runs ruclips.net/user/electronupdate
He would do a great job on a CPU
TiN CAD... where do people find the links to buy the art work?
And there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth...
If you break a GPU core, do you get 7 years of bad FPS?
7years of 7fps 😏
@@Rainbow__cookie O.O Have you ever played at 7fps? CANCERRRRR
7 years of GT210 "FML" Edition
Bad prices
lol, good one.
Budget builders all over the world could've eaten those 2080 Ti GPUs
Kablstr those budget builders won’t have to suffer for long as cloud gaming will give them instant access to super high end pc gaming
@@THELANKANCOMRADE but latency :(
Antares Bellic is becoming less and less of an issue as time goes by. More data centres near you less latency and google has a LOT of centres . :)
@@THELANKANCOMRADE no matter how close data centres are, the distance is not the only thing affecting the latency
chingi5 If you have a decent enough internet you can stream at least 1080p60 if the datacenter is nearby. Latency is almost all about how close you are to the datacenter while stream quality is all about your bandwidth.
"Destructive Testing" via Hand Manipulated Leverage tool for precision impact damage resilience inspection
We will need a 3rd party inspector to assure the destructive testing was successful.
@@weightlifting_socialist it is not a "leverage tool". it is an "unidirectional Impact generator".
Or perhaps "Manual Operation Dynamic Unidirectional Load Equipment"
Hand-Actuated Metallic Mass Eradication Rod.
hand manipulated wooden handled kinect impactor
More TIN please... lovin this guy.
His clothing is odd tho
It's makes him look 2x chill
After seeing a 2080 Ti getting hammered I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
Del Fianto I fear something terrible has happened...we’d better get back to our overclocking...
@Hazard that's what I was thinking in a few years it would go low. Next year we get 8k 120 fps with Ray tracing says AMD with Xbox
It hurt so bad. To watch the Hammer 🔨 come down. I was like Noooooooo. Just say it's not so. When I replayed it. My heart ♥️ almost stopped. Another one in Tech Heaven..
joseph salazar yea right lmao. They say that but for $500 no hardware in the world can power 8k at 120fps except a still menu.
@@TargetSniper365 sure they can!*
* Upscaled from 480p
I'm hurting inside from this
So is Intel.
@@c.1055 What crack do you smoke bud? This video has no effect on intel, It's Nvidia GPU's dying.
@@shawnpitman876 it's a joke, calm down. Also, my dealer isn't accepting new clients.
@@c.1055 "its a joke" jokes need to be funny, what you said is just plain stupid.
@@shawnpitman876 Yeah, so is your attachment to my comment.
Oompaloompa is now a technical term APPROVED
@Tadas Nanartonis Obviously they are adapting to the realities of the digital economy.
Once again, TiN is dressed as a prisoner, this time he's forced to bust rocks with a hammer.
Also, suppose Dave from EEVblog is getting a kickback for licensing TiN-CAD?
Must be GPU Gulag, Comrade.
I honestly didn't even notice that at first....
He looks and dress exactly like Cody from Street Fighter V
Likely DaveCAD is patented in OZ only...
Oompa Loompa, do-ba-dee-doo,
I've got a perfect voltage for you.
*Looking so forward to hearing the "LET'S GET STRAIGHT INTO IT TODAY."*
*When Tech Jesus starts reviewing the RYZEN 3000 cpus.* 💯
Almost certainly what will be said!
@@GamersNexus Is there gonna be an unboxing first as usual?
@@Dan____ You're replying with something that wasn't talked about.
@@GamersNexus
At least this time you won't have three almost identical CPU's and start with the most expensive one. ;)
I have already made up my mind about one thing: I hate it that AMD put the TDP of that 3700X so low and put the 3800X at a $70 higher price. That 3800X does not make any sense (I predict a big price cut before the end of 2019) but now you have this artificial limitation for the 3700X because of the hard limit of the XFR (maximum 0.2 GHz. higher than the boost) and if you loose XFR when you manually overclock or have some kind of automatic overclocking like on the Intel platform.
@@GamersNexus you have no idea how much I want to see the 3900x vs the 9900k with a lot of game benchmarks. As well see what the 12 core does with the radeon 7 bandwidth. I like to see radeon 7 taken to its highest oc potential vs Jay2cents.
So when you don't have protection enabled: some bloke comes along with a hammer and smashes your kit. Understood.
Next GN News Update:
Nvidia ends development partnership with Kingpin and TiN
Destructive testing is a part of all mass produced product development.
Also, they could not get a catastrophic failure to happen. That's actually a good thing. NVIDIA and EVGA could be open to litigation (even if unsuccessful in the end) if it was found that the products could be forced to explode under any circumstances.
After seeing the hammer
No signal from mind.exe
Error code WTF
And see that kingpin letter on it.
This shit triggered me as well.....
When you have a 5080ti or 7080ti in the furture you will laugh about this 2080ti.
BlueScreen error 0xc00137 - {Fatal Mind undarstanding error} Dumping physical memory .... 100%
Trying to understand the hammer..... FAILED!
Attempting to restart.....
BRAIN™
Bios v. 3.0
Minddows........
Something went wrong with your Mind and the system needed to restart.
BSOD {Fatal Mind understanding error}
Code: 0xc00137
Was problem fixed: Not sure
We called this "Releasing the blue smoke" back in the day. It was an old IBM joke... the chips are powered by IBM magic and when we blow one up, it releases it as blue smoke. It became a meme for any chip getting smoked, not just IBM. Not as flashy as blowing up tantalum capacitors (always fun to do that), but roughly equivalent to flushing $$ down the toilet considering how expensive some of those chips were.
The other things we did... put humerous silk screen under the big chips for the benefit of tinkerers whod pull the boards apart. And in other places. One of my friends always wrote "Help, I'm being held hostage inside an EPROM!" on the silk-screen.
-Matt
That's pretty funny actually. :) Sounds like a fun job.
Try that in 2020 and you'll be called a racist or a Nazi.
all you have to do is put all the blue smoke back and it will work again!
GPU: _dies_
VRM Controller Oompa Loompa:
🕺🕺🕺Low voltage! More powa!
TiN, the tool you used was clearly labeled "CPU REPAIR TOOL".
You used it on a GPU, no wonder it did not repair it!
how many of you miss the umpalumpa part of the video?
oh no, the dreaded puff of magic smoke. once the smoke pixie leaves it's game over.
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of transistors cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."
A disturbance in the GeForce
TiN knows what he's talking about. Love it. Thanks for the video, do more exploring into hardware and how it works.
Glad you guys opened up with that disclaimer. People would have been after TiN's head.
You must admit, it would've been funnier that way
That diagram reminds me of my days as a TV repair technician. One of the things our instructor taught us was that every electronic component comes packed with smoke. If the smoke escapes, the component dies:)
This video cost atleast 3 2080Ti kingpin cards.
@potentialforanything You could still salvage the die.
@@Jaymiecain1 engineering samples arnt allowed to be sold in any way, the die would have been an engineering sample given from nvidia to evga so that could make their pcb
Steve seems determined to make his regular blood offering to the silicon gods at 3:44
That 3rd attempt trying to kill the GPU and you here TiM go ' ooooo ' I was expecting him to follow that up with ' Blyat ' haha.
Can we get more of TiN saying “Oompa Loompa”? Lol
Tin is the man! He goes into great detail explaining every question and is very gracious. I'm glad you guys were able to have him on these videos. It made for very educational and interesting content. Good work!
“And lo, did Tech Jesus and an Archangel of Overclocking sacrifice the holy GPUs on the altar of test bench so all may learn of their ways. Ye, though many a watcher of deed did cringe in horror, they were better for the gain of knowledge. And it was good.”
I really need to stop watching things before going to bed...
All I know is that if you don't use protection, there is a chance to become a parent
Give this man likes
paid GN Store shill
Get lost. No room in Tech community for Sexists ❌❌❌❌
TiN has gotten so much better on camera. Easily cooler than KP once he relaxes a bit.
The magic smoke came out, of course it won't work now.
Loving the mad scientist lab and TiN's work. These guys are at the forefront of the GPU technology, let's all salute them.
This is the quality content I donate for. Never change, GN
7:53 I will forever imagine that there is a team of professional Oompa Loompas controlling every aspect of my computer. thank you TiN
Oompa! Oompa! Doopity Doo!
TiN just destroyed a GPU!
What do you get when the voltage goes high?
Turning off the protections so it will fry?
I don't like the look of it.
"Keep English please" on that FLIR... as I recall, those are ridiculously easy to switch language on unintentionally, something like holding the power on button a moment too long.
I love you so much! Finally, the video I need. This why we all need you Tech Jesus. Very Informative :)
0:59 i like the perfectly placed "product placement" (and lamp) around the edge of the mat to hide the fact that if those items werent there, the mat would just roll itself back up haha. new great hobby, extreme overheating, but with that kingpin stYle haha.
7:00 "TiN - CAD"
I will want to know how many people get this joke.
DaveCAD is not pleased lol
DaveCAD is the iPhone version of TiN-CAD
More like the opposite. Only fake people use iCrap
Saw it immediately as a nod to Dave.
Ave and BigClive also do this, Dave is a legend
I don´t know why but everytime I see Tin and Kingpin I feel like they are a team of underground spies working borderless crimes and all this graphics cards and overclocking business is just a hobby and a reason to travel the world.
I can't believe he turned down a promising career in SPECTRE to teach me things about overclocking on youtube videos.
Really wish you had a macro lens before smashing the die...
Steve looks like an obedient puppy whenever he's in the presence of TiN...😂😂
Tbh i learned a lot of new stuff on this video. I love these videos with TiN and KINGPIN
This is Linus level of destruction at play here.
Linus would drop the hammer though....
@@rszewczyk He would drop the 2080TI on a pack of Titans.
FireStorm81318 or just hammer retail card...
Now Linus will have to up his game. Maybe using a sledgehammer or a hydraulic press machine to destroy stuffs
If I ever have to RMA a card for power issues I am totally writing "The Oompa Loompa didn't do his job properly" on the RMA submission.
Next gen cards will have oompa loompa guy 2.0 FTW
4:25 usually, PCBs have thicker outer layers, and thinner inner layers. Unless you have a random Chinese shop make them, and find out by a fire that they all ended up being 0.5oz, when you specified the top layer for 2oz.
This Just In! Gamers Nexus takes the Linus Approach to GPU testing.
Take a shot everytime that guy says "like". You'll be dead by 3 minute mark.
You'd die from 3 shots? He's not even saying it that often and his English is pretty excellent if you ask me.
*Proceeds to destroy 2080ti chip with hammer*
"So why does this gpu have a crater in it?"
This video offended my own 2080ti.
Your suppose to keep the magic smoke INSIDE the electronics.
Angry pixies
I wonder if the result would be far more spectacular if the GPU had enough time before overheating to at least boot into an OS and start a bench mark.
I would use IPA to cool the GPU, it vaporizes rather quickly, draws a lot of heat with it. But when it all has vaporized, then we have a GPU under full load and practically no cooling.
So that should be a lot more energy to create a more dramatic scene.
200C? Wow!
A 9900K basically
Timothy Gibney nah about 50c
Drakkar Calethiel 5.0 across all cores, no direct die bs and it goes no higher than about 75c under max load. Gaming it sits around 50-55 so it's all bullshit about i9s burning the world.
@@ebolawarrior451
But for this temperatures you need a pretty good cpu-cooler.
Ezio Auditore yes this is true. Which I do.
TiN is like the Photonicinduction of hardware and overclocking, love it!
Cool, we finally get to see the factory tour video for how Novideo cards are made
Not even the setup for that 'joke' makes sense.
the irony is my 970 never randomly stopped outputting video yet my current 580 8g refuses to output to 3/4 of my displays
also rip, Steve doesn't approve.
@@brammokeefe5405 sounds like a pebkac error.
Isn't fanboyism a wonderful thing?
@@shawnpitman876 ive used 4 different hdmi cables and for all results i got only one monitor to work with this card. the 580 4g cards i have work just fine with all of them as well. its not user error, shits not rocket science
That was not smoke, it was the GPU 's soul leaving its physical body
That Oompa Loompa is Buildzoid, right? 🤔
TiN is such a cool guy, please feature him more often if possible
--ERROR-- Self.exe has stopped working.
Is it possible that you got underwhelming breaking because you are starting from cold and not from some previous testing routine? Great video keep them coming!
God damn, now that's what I call RTX On.
I love how you guys are exploding 2080Ti's on top of a Titan RTX box lmao, keep it up!
send GPUs you cant sell to BuildZoid for reasons
Just remember, kids: Computers run on magic smoke and once the smoke escapes the computer will never run again!
It's painful to watch Tin hammered the GPU die (even when it's broken already), oof.
The GPU die had to die.
> smashes card with a hammer
> we can not sell this board anymore
In the arms of an angel...
I remember before all of this protection, I was doing software work on an Athlon XP system (my grandfather's). I heard a Pinging noise, which was the terrible OEM heatsink metal clip flying off, within a half of a second the screen froze. Fried CPU. Luckily back then there was a local shop close by that gave me an excuse to upgrade the CPU and get back up and running the same day. It most likely happened while I was using it because I ran it much harder than he ever did, so the extra temperature or thermal expansion was just enough for it to let loose. I would imagine a lot of people lost components to this sort of thing back then.
There were some sort of different precautions for the Athlons. On the one hand, you absolutely couldn't run them without a cooler. No throttling implemented apart from emergency motherboard shutdowns which never worked. On the other hand, stomping too heavy of a cooler onto the die, overtightening the cooler, mistightening the cooler, or doing some other wacky stuff could crack the die.
@@previousslayer Yep. Those were the days. It was just the OEM aluminum block, and the metal strap that snapped over the top. It was unexpected, since we weren't physically inside the system anytime recently when it happened. It wasn't long until those days were over. I'm thinking Intel already had protections in place at that time, that a heatsink could be removed without catastrophic failure. Although the XP wasn't new anymore when it happened. It happened right around the Pentium 4 C time.
A drop of water would have gone a long way.
Calm down, Satan
I should have subscribed long ago. This is one of the smartest PC gaming channels in YT. Its basically a science channel at this point.
This is murder...
I literally screamed in my kitchen when i saw this. Talk about having a heart attack at 1 AM
That GPU is doneski btw
Nah it will just be sold as a 2060
Its like my dad was trying to repair it, so he took out one of his tools thinking the gpu needed to be hammered onto the pcb more...
Crack.
That's painful.
They probably cut the copper with another tool, so we'd see the wafer-print.
So not to question TIN or anything...but (at least with older technologies like I'm used to working with) the die is flip chip is actually upside down and the transistors are the closest to the laser etched side that says "nvidia" etc. and the metal is all the colorful shit you see because the light is being reflected/diffracted through the routing layers. You call it flip chip because normally you have the metal layers on top and then you wire bond it out to a lead frame (like the packages with legs) but in a flip chip you basically do something like the BGA pattern on the chip itself then flip it onto the substrate that you use for redistribution so it can be put on a regular PCB
Oompa Loompa :D
Di bi di doo.
Rest in peace this G.P.U.
Nvidia: *checks this video* WTF guys! I paid you to promote my brand. Not to destroy my products.
Just hugged my pc :0
Can imagine how it is working at the EVGA GPU department, that burning GPU smell while chipping in your morning coffee.
🤣
I've triggered room firealarm once, benching GTX 590 on LN2...
A moment of silence for the dies departed, may tech jesus bless their substrates
p.s: this could be a series in itself, blowing up expensive stuff for science
I like the "Keep :) english please" reminder on the temp monitor. Wonder how many times that happened before it warranted a reminder sticker
I want to cry 😭
It's TiNs world and we're just living in it
Was that particular oompa-loompa depiction one of a cross-bred giraffee hybrid?
That's one MIGHTY elongated neck! 🤣
TINS SLACKING HARD......... love it broski
I like how you keep things on your mat to keep it from rolling up.
7:46 we need this in the shop. :D
I could listen TiN for days. Nice Video
Finally! A video from GN that I can actually watch. Because someone else does most of the talking.
TiN has the vibe of someone who genuinely likes hardware. (Even when he destroys it)
Please explain: by breaking the die with a hammer proves that the GPUs explode when subject to extreme heat?
That moment when a hammer is acquired next to GN, Tin, Kingpin and some more to actually explode a DIE xD
Nice that TiN is in the focus of the Video 😊
3:43 "be careful, its glass."
yeah... i know.
Well my mother always said, you gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette.
Im looking for this type of video about 2 years