Not sure if you can answer, but can you perhaps comment how to add a hihat or ride into a blast beat? For example, I think the hihat or ride should be applied at the same time as the kick, but, is there a way to "skip" some hihat or ride notes similar to the way you did here to make it a bit easier? Thanks !
Thank you for the question. I'd be happy to give this some thought, but it would be useful to have a little more clarity on exactly which beat you're talking about. If you can describe the beat you're referring to in a little more detail (describe the rhythms in words/do a rough transcription/refer to another video) I may have some suggestions on how to simplify it. Generally speaking you should be able to play a hi-hat/ride note for every 2 or even 4 notes on your kick and still get away with it. Like I said though, more detail would be a big help. For reference, here is an example of a rough transcription of a basic rock beat: H H H H H H H H S S K K I hope that's clear enough, thanks for commenting!
@@5-minutedrumlessons Sure I am referring to "blast beats" which are used in various genres of metal and grindcore. H- x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-| S- -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o| B- o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-| The hihat is on every single kick and the snare is in between. My question is when playing a blast beat at 180 bpm or higher, can the hihat somehow be played differently to make it easier? Thanks !
@@stockfeeder666 Ok thank you for clarifying. For this beat I suppose you could play the hi-hat every 4 notes instead of every 2, but you might lose the essence of the blast beat a bit, and it might actually feel less natural. You could try it and see how it feels for you. You could also try doing the hands together (so putting the kick on its own and then the hi-hat and snare together in between). That would convey a similar idea and maybe be a little easier. Ultimately I think you can learn this beat as written with some practice. To practice the beat as you wrote it try practicing just snare and kick alternating to work the speed up. You can also think of it as a single stroke roll with a kick with every right hand note, so working on single stroke could help improve this beat. Then practice the full beat slowly to get really comfortable with the movement, then gradually (5-10bpm at a time) increase your speed. Remember, speed comes from control and we develop control with slow thoughtful movements. Hope that helps a bit!
Playing fast and hard, is where most fail. Also wrong, real punk drummers will run them 1/8ths on that HH, the whole song, and every song for song for some.
I do believe you that pros likely run 8ths steadily, but for sure they take advantage of quarters as well. Please also keep in mind that "real" punk drummers were once beginner and intermediate players, and these ideas are directed toward those types of players. I appreciate your comment and lean toward agreeing with you, but this video is for drummers who are looking to experiment with faster tempos and get into the faster feels associated with "punk" style beats.
@@5-minutedrumlessons Pro's? I was forcing myself to learn it from the get when self learning. Same as hard and fast on the kit, sure do you get to a burn or lock up, absolutely, but its just a pain barrier that can be overcome and passed through over time, IF you keep pushing. Most just back away. So I was still a beginner/intermediate, didn't have much choice as my only practice time was playing with 2 different punk guitarist burning off riffs. So I wasn't trying to bash your vid at all, as just offer up alternative approaches, because dropping off those 1/8ths to 1/4's on the HH can potentially wreck the whole drive and energy of a tune. Doing it because it serves the tune is one thing. Doing it because you can't maintain it is slack af, can't imagine many putting up with it either, but theses days..probably. Fast Hard Punk Beats, get the easy mentality out of your mind from the get....Biased old school Hardcore drummer with live gigs across the US
@@sword-and-shieldNot sure what "live gigs across the US" is supposed to mean. 😂 Big deal. Shitty bar bands get live gigs. The poster is trying to help young drummers or those that want to expand their tools in their arsenal. I have been playing for over 30 years but I am a jazz drummer, so I find videos like this helpful so perhaps I can expand to other genres. Tone down your ego. I doubt you are as accomplished as you pretend to be and none of us are impressed.
@@Meme-zc4cw So you say you are not sure what it means, but then spew off a bunch of tripe about it. Typical, You just proved your some 12yr old. It wasn't meant to be some "Big Deal" so that proves no reading comprehension skills were taught in grade school. There was no video bashing in my original comment, only statements of fact being thrown out, just like the vid. The rest of your post means squat because its a lie, your own post proving an education of a 12yr old, even your own bs logic of throwing in your bs experience while whining about the veracity of someone else posting theirs. Go slap your teachers kid, they failed., at least you have someone to blame.
Straight-forward, practical advice without pretense. Effective and refreshing. 👍
Thank you! A very kind comment, I appreciate it.
That was so refreshing and so effective
Thank you squire
It's great to hear this, it's exactly what I'm going for. Thank you so much!
Good advice for new drummers. 🙌🏻
Greatly appreciated comment, thank you!!
Awesome!
Glad you think so!
This is awesome! Always appreciate your videos. Something else that I struggle with are tom grooves. Do you have any videos on those at all?
Thanks again for the comment! I don't think there is anything specifically on tom grooves yet. I'll add it to the list of upcoming videos!
shweet, thanks man.
@@5-minutedrumlessons
cool
Thank you for the comment!
Not sure if you can answer, but can you perhaps comment how to add a hihat or ride into a blast beat? For example, I think the hihat or ride should be applied at the same time as the kick, but, is there a way to "skip" some hihat or ride notes similar to the way you did here to make it a bit easier? Thanks !
Thank you for the question. I'd be happy to give this some thought, but it would be useful to have a little more clarity on exactly which beat you're talking about. If you can describe the beat you're referring to in a little more detail (describe the rhythms in words/do a rough transcription/refer to another video) I may have some suggestions on how to simplify it. Generally speaking you should be able to play a hi-hat/ride note for every 2 or even 4 notes on your kick and still get away with it. Like I said though, more detail would be a big help.
For reference, here is an example of a rough transcription of a basic rock beat:
H H H H H H H H
S S
K K
I hope that's clear enough, thanks for commenting!
@@5-minutedrumlessons
Sure I am referring to "blast beats" which are used in various genres of metal and grindcore.
H- x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-|
S- -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o|
B- o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-|
The hihat is on every single kick and the snare is in between.
My question is when playing a blast beat at 180 bpm or higher, can the hihat somehow be played differently to make it easier?
Thanks !
@@stockfeeder666 Ok thank you for clarifying. For this beat I suppose you could play the hi-hat every 4 notes instead of every 2, but you might lose the essence of the blast beat a bit, and it might actually feel less natural. You could try it and see how it feels for you.
You could also try doing the hands together (so putting the kick on its own and then the hi-hat and snare together in between). That would convey a similar idea and maybe be a little easier.
Ultimately I think you can learn this beat as written with some practice. To practice the beat as you wrote it try practicing just snare and kick alternating to work the speed up.
You can also think of it as a single stroke roll with a kick with every right hand note, so working on single stroke could help improve this beat.
Then practice the full beat slowly to get really comfortable with the movement, then gradually (5-10bpm at a time) increase your speed.
Remember, speed comes from control and we develop control with slow thoughtful movements.
Hope that helps a bit!
@@5-minutedrumlessons awesome advice! Love your vids ! Cheers !!!!
@@stockfeeder666 My pleasure, any other questions ---> let me know!
Kinda all over the place video
Thank you for your comment, we’ll be working on improving the presentation of information to make it as clear as possible
Playing fast and hard, is where most fail. Also wrong, real punk drummers will run them 1/8ths on that HH, the whole song, and every song for song for some.
I do believe you that pros likely run 8ths steadily, but for sure they take advantage of quarters as well. Please also keep in mind that "real" punk drummers were once beginner and intermediate players, and these ideas are directed toward those types of players. I appreciate your comment and lean toward agreeing with you, but this video is for drummers who are looking to experiment with faster tempos and get into the faster feels associated with "punk" style beats.
@@5-minutedrumlessons Pro's? I was forcing myself to learn it from the get when self learning. Same as hard and fast on the kit, sure do you get to a burn or lock up, absolutely, but its just a pain barrier that can be overcome and passed through over time, IF you keep pushing. Most just back away. So I was still a beginner/intermediate, didn't have much choice as my only practice time was playing with 2 different punk guitarist burning off riffs. So I wasn't trying to bash your vid at all, as just offer up alternative approaches, because dropping off those 1/8ths to 1/4's on the HH can potentially wreck the whole drive and energy of a tune. Doing it because it serves the tune is one thing. Doing it because you can't maintain it is slack af, can't imagine many putting up with it either, but theses days..probably. Fast Hard Punk Beats, get the easy mentality out of your mind from the get....Biased old school Hardcore drummer with live gigs across the US
@@sword-and-shieldNot sure what "live gigs across the US" is supposed to mean. 😂 Big deal. Shitty bar bands get live gigs. The poster is trying to help young drummers or those that want to expand their tools in their arsenal. I have been playing for over 30 years but I am a jazz drummer, so I find videos like this helpful so perhaps I can expand to other genres. Tone down your ego. I doubt you are as accomplished as you pretend to be and none of us are impressed.
@@Meme-zc4cw So you say you are not sure what it means, but then spew off a bunch of tripe about it. Typical, You just proved your some 12yr old. It wasn't meant to be some "Big Deal" so that proves no reading comprehension skills were taught in grade school. There was no video bashing in my original comment, only statements of fact being thrown out, just like the vid. The rest of your post means squat because its a lie, your own post proving an education of a 12yr old, even your own bs logic of throwing in your bs experience while whining about the veracity of someone else posting theirs. Go slap your teachers kid, they failed., at least you have someone to blame.
“Real” punk drummers use 1/4s ALL the time. I do it in %80 of my songs
Punk drummers are usually the only talented/practiced person in the band.
😂 They definitely have to dish out the energy that's for sure
My experience it was the keyboard or sax player, if you were lucky enough to have one.