How to Choose the Correct Off Road Shock - Rock Rods Tech
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- On this episode of Rock Rods Tech Jake Burkey shows you how to choose the correct off road shock for your application. There are many shocks to choose from. Find out if Air Shocks, emulsion coilovers, Remote Reservoirs, or Bypass Shocks are the right ones for you.
You can order Radflo Shocks directly from us at www.bustedknuckleoffroad.com just ask for Jake and he will help you decide on the right shock to fit your vehicle and budget.
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absolute best explanation of an emulsion shock i've heard to date. thank you for that!
Thanks for tuning in
Posted 7 years ago and really enjoyed it today! Found the knowledge really well delivered by an excellent teacher! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Dudes a great teacher and speaker
Facts
Excellent video, I was looking for something just like this. I've got a very weird build that basically everything has to be one-off custom. This helped point me in the right direction. Thanks guys!
glad it helped
thanks for the info. i never really knew anything about bypass shocks. cant wait for the tuning video
coming soon
ok, as i continue on into your video, this is the single best tutorial on the differences in shocks. thank you for your time. radflos are one of the candidates i'm looking at. if i decide on radflo, i'm definitely buying from you.
Awesome, just let us know and we can get them on their way to you.
BustedKnuckleVideo I messaged you yesterday on the site. Email is BJJinDallas@gmail.com also left my phone number on the site “contact us” box.
dude I kinda fell in love with you because that was the simplest way to describe this that I've ever heard. thanks man
Jake has a way with words
Coming from rally background some of this was familiar, but you've filled in all the blanks. thank U this was very informative.
Thanks for tuning in!
great information opened up a area of tune that l didn't really understand very well what would you suggest for a trail truck that is sometimes used on the street
Not Airshocks, a normal emulsion coilover should do the trick. Give us a shout at www.bustedknuckleoffroad.com and we can better get you setup with the right shocks
Very informative information. Question, is the bypass shocks can be paired with factory suspension or it must be paired with aftermarket suspension upgrades? 4 link, is that the factory setup or aftermarket? About to order a 2019 F250 diesel crew cab with 8 foot bed, 4x4, with towing option with the most compliant suspension... nearest setup of not feeling any bumps at all while maintaining control of vehicle at relative speeds. Up to 50 mph, mostly for rough street surfaces like potholes, speed bumps, bridge joints and mild offroad scenarios like service roads and washboard roads. Would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
This is for an aftermarket 4 link but you could put coilovers on a new truck and change the ride substantially.
About the bypass shocks; When driving along hitting minor bumps and uneven terrain don't you want the soft zone around ride height? That would normally be around 25-35% of the shock compressed, but then if you hit a big jump and your shocks shoot all the way out. When landing you would want your soft spot from all the way out to maybe 10-20% in, right?. You don't want to hit another soft spot when you pass ride height? How does this work?
And also the air shocks is velocity sensing as well, as they do have shimstacks in them?
This is how they work but how do I choose shock length and size!?
coming soon, this video was how to choose the type. weight and suspension travel is how you choose length and size, give us a shout over at www.bustedknuckleoffroad.com and we can get you setup with the right shocks for your vehicle
Very informative, thank you!
jake aka the professa
Thanks Burkey love the vids!!!!! Give us more!!!!!!!!
new tech vids are in the works now !
Nice job explaining.
Glad it was helpful!
Good info right there. Looking forward to the video on suspension tuning.
very soon
@@BustedKnuckleVideo did you ever do a tuning video on the Radflo bypass shocks?
Outstanding.
Thanks Jake.
he knows his stuff
brilliant explanation. thank you.
Glad to help
Jist watching the whole video.. I'm gonna go with triples. Thanks!!!
good idea, let us know if we can help. We are a Direct Radflo dealer www.bustedknuckleoffroad.com
Excellent explanation! believe it or not, they make functional bypass shocks for my Traxxas UDR 1/7 scale RC desert truck. Super excited to get them and start tuning! I cant afford the full size, Lol!
Right on
Great video you guys rock!!!
Thanks for tuning in!
thank you, very informative!
Glad to help
Jake is the man!
off road guru
thank you video jake
Lots of info
Sorry for the ignorance, let's say I have a 1400 pound off road only vehicle (trail) that comes with terrible Coil-over shocks. I'm looking at piggy back 'smooth body' Fox Performance series as a replacement with the same compression and etc. Is this a safe bet to replace a coil over? Can't find a direct comparison or I'm not searching by the correct naming. Great Vids!
no it is not
Hi,
I chose a 2.0 coilover with an external adjustable reservoir from Profender on my SIERRA 2015 6.2L engine.
Also upgraded upper arm, added rear upgraded solistic shuckles BUT kept OEM springs.
Shocks gas is at 150psi since am using for daily use and sand offroading.
Car on humps or dampening either feels to stiff when or just bangs when i reduce or increase the "clicker" of the reservoir i cant get the right feel of rebound and of higher speed on sand i feel am loosing control and body roll...do u suggest i check the gas level or springs?
sounds like they need revalved
if I have coils factory on my vehicle and I just want a really smooth ride while jumping and on whoops, I was thinking of just fitting bypass shocks, limiting straps and hydro bumps is there any benefit to running a coilover instead of factory coils? Other than the possibility of coils falling out
you can get some very good suspension with good shocks and coils. What vehicle is it?
Great video
Thanks!
Hi,
I have a 77 Toyota FJ40 and im looking for those shocks that make that nice "air sound" when you hit bumps. What kind of shock are those ?
That would be any shock that isn't wore out
The "clicker" as you called it does not limit how MUCH oil can go into the reservoir it limits how FAST the oil goes into the reservoir
what is the difference between these bypass shocks and needing a coilover to support the vehicle versus a monster truck bypass shock where they only run bypass and they do sulport the vehicle?
Most monster trucks run Air Shocks.
What would you recommend for a mud truck now it’s not extreme mega truck, it’s just a simple one ton chassis, with an explorer body, a small block ford and a c6 trans
are you racing or just bogging?
Thank you!
glad to help
which category would you classify ORI struts? what would you say are its pros and cons?
Churched up air shock.
Recommendations for a long travel a 2003 silverado 1500 ?
a good coilover on the front and remote reservoir shock on the back, hit us up and we can get you setup right at bustedknuckleoffroad.com
Now this is some "shocking" information! ^_^
And Jake is born to be in front of the camera. Does he practice in front of the mirror (*inside joke*)? ;-)
He likes to hear himself talk so yes most likely
What is a "Whoop?" I am a retired ASE Master dealer tech retired trying to learn the new stuff but RUclips's "AI" in closed caption calls it a "Boobs" when your narration calls it out.
I am not a racer, Baja runner or drag strip tech. I know it's been 5+ years but just wanted to learn as there are road conditions that result in compression and extension but not "Boobs".
DK. Retired ASE Master Tech since 1978! I have to save this one and watch more, but you did a good job of explaining using "Show & Tell". Can you show "Boobs" with the external by-pass type high expense shocks?
whoop, is a rolling sand bump caused by vehicles.
Alright but where do I start? I got a D60 and 14 bolt I got to swap in and I think it would be helpful if I had the coil overs as I am visual and suck at planning that far into a build. Just need something to get my foot in the door while future proofing myself a little
Coilovers are a good way to start. I would try to measure and see what length you might need.
I would like to see how you build a rear steer and how it works!
coming right up!
Awesome!
What about the independent floating piston in all nitrogen charged emulsion shocks?
Emulsion shocks dont have an IFP, oil and gas are mixed
Thank you
You're welcome
When tou say air shocks are best suitable for light weight rigs, which total weight of the vehicle should i take into consideration to think about using it or not ? Thanks for answering , i´m from Brazil.
lightweight like competition vehicles in the 2000-3000lb range
Hi!
Reason why a shock absorber with reservoir is soft after it is hot, is the oil of poor quality or is there another reason?
Thanks.
heat makes shocks not work as well. That is part of working a shock hard.
Do you think a bypass shock on a vehicle equipped with torsion bars would have better handling capabilities rather than doing a coilover conversion?
coilover allows for better tuning
Is radflo a good option between lets say a bilstein5100 but not as pricy as a kings?
Radflo is our go to choice for shocks, they are just as good as a King or Fox
Just picked up a fiberglass Volkswagen dune buggy with air shocks that are way too stiff. I'm thinking emulsion coilovers would soften the ride - mostly street but some dirt - what would you recommend?!!!!
depends on the suspension setup but emulsion coilovers are easily going to be better than air shocks
@@BustedKnuckleVideo
Thanks. I'll have to do some research for the proper size shocks but this buggy weighs nothin at 1,200 lbs. Just deflating the tires helped tremendously but the shocks are still too stiff.
that is crazy light
Just skip double bypasses amd go straight to triple? I have a light truck 4wd daily long travel.. daily driven 90%. I have king 2.5"×8" in the front. But am looking into both rear amd secondary in the front. Debating on jist getting doubles. Instead of triple
triples are awesome if you can package them
Can you put springs on a bypass?
No.
Emulsion shocks have air in the oil chamber so fast movement causes bubbles which decreases dampening.
Billy Currington knows shocks, as well.
the singer?
why do most bouncers use radflo over king? Is it a cost thing or a sponsor thing or are they just simply better?
Radflo is the best bang for the buck out of all the shock companies. We sell them at www.bustedknuckleoffroad.com
So what shocks do they sell that allows my 2020 Ranger fX4 to feel like a Cadillac over small bumps off road to make it smooth for dirt roads?
that is all in the tuning
Busted Knuckle Films nice okay cool! Thank you. I’ll look into it.
wow...probably the best sus explanation on YT....thanks a lot!
Wow, thanks!
So what would you recommend for a ZJ Jeep with a 4.5 long arm kit that I want for hauling ass on trails in the woods? Thanks
A good remote res shock paired with good coil springs would be the best bang for the buck
BustedKnuckleVideo thanks! What remote res and springs would you recommend? Do you know if there is a shock hoop or bucket so I can get more travel? Thanks
A Radflo remote res would be our first choice, paired with a set of DIY shock hoops so you can get all the travel possible and some progressive rate coil springs.
When you say a light vehicle in relation to air shocks, could you ballpark how light you mean?
2500lbs or less like a comp rig
Thank you .i am sory now good speking engglish . I am from asia
No worries!
Cool.. bypass shock techs drool....
I need some!
Last comment was a year ago, but still great videos.
still a good video, more coming out soon!
keep more like this comi,g
more on the way, trying to get Jake moved closer to us
BustedKnuckleVideo ever think about doing a video about setting up leaf springs? pros and cons of load bearing and "flipped" rear shackle setup? maybe explain if you had a bare frame and needed to mount both hangers how they should be mounted, then you could explain shackle angle and length and how to get that right.
and on front springs correct me if I'm wrong but don't some setups run shackle up front (TJ)? and some run it in rear? what's pros and cons?
We don't much experience with Leaf spring Suspension.
Diaphragm shocks do not allow air in the oil chamber there for no bubbles resulting in thicker viscosity.
what kind of coilover?
Radflo
Can I send my fox shocks to you to rebuild?
Richard L you sure can just email us jake@bustedknuckleoffroad.com to schedule it
what about an internal bypass coil over?
Not as common, but a viable option just not as easy to tune as a full external bypass
keith, ive seen you post a couple times. if youd like to call i can help you out. There are MANY MANY types of shocks out there but we chose the most common ones. If you have a question about a specific type shock id be happy to help.
what's the purpose of the design for the different location of shock absorber ?
Jeep Wrangler JL :
two rear shock absorbers are very close to the tire and behind to the axle.
Ram Truck :
two rear shock absorbers are close to the differential and
one is at front of the axle, the other is at rear of the axle. why did it design to be that ?
It is all in the packaging of the shocks. A shock works best in a vertical position any other configuration requires changes to valving to counter act that.
Can you do a rock rods video on a brake system for a bouncer
YES, hydro boost!
@@BustedKnuckleVideo awesome I can't wait to see the video
Shocking on how much shocking info he is shocking me with!!
taking you to school
you dont need a reservoir to be a non emulsion shock. there are many ifp smooth bodies.
exactly.. i hate when guys try to educate and get it wrong..
You talking about an internal bypass?
You are correct. There are many IFP smooth bodies. I did not have one to show so i used a remote reservoir to explain the concept. I dont believe i ever stated that you had to have a remote reservoir to be non-emulsion
keith, nothing i said was wrong. There are Internal Floating Piston smooth body shocks but stating every type of shock was not the point of the video. The point was to understand the concept of an emulsion coilover vs separating the fluid and nitrogen. IFP shocks are rare. The extra length is generally a problem for mouting and packaging for rock bouncers, Ultra 4, jeeps, SXS etc.
jake burkey I live in gardnerville and have a local guy phil Liccardi doing trade work on my truck for the Shop I built him. My whole life I wanted a set of king shocks but he is a radflo tuner and he said I would be better off with a set of shocks from glen then spending more money to get the same product . I see your sponsored by them.... are they that good? Thanks for any insight. I’m a race engineer in the drag racing world and love watching these vids to learn . Thanks again
DAMPING not Dampening!
Same difference
Height, there's no 'h' at the end so the word ends with a hard "T". Other than that your presentations are awesome!! Great job speaking, I don't think I heard one "Um".
lol if that is the only mistake he made then we are good to go
the first one*
Radflo
The correct terminology is Emulsion vs. Diaphragm shocks.
I have never heard anyone say Diaphragm shocks LOL
I found this one to be rather.... "shocking"
Good One!