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  • Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
  • Trail hardtails rule. Here are my 10 favorite reasons why.
    Check out the Trek Roscoe : www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/ro...
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    00:00 Intro
    01:28 Reason #10 "You'll never blow your rear shock"
    01:44 Reason #9 "Easier maintenance and cleaning"
    01:55 Reason #8 "Can fit two Water bottle cages"
    02:05 Reason #7 "Modern trail hardtails are legit"
    02:38 Reason #6 "Hardtails make you a better rider"
    02:59 Reason #5 "Good for learning to jump"
    03:52 Reason #4 "Cheaper than full suspension"
    04:37 Reason #3 "Boring trails are fun again"
    05:36 Reason #2 "Hardtail-homie can't lose"
    06:10 Reason #1 "Hardtails are classic. It's the original way to ride a trail."
    07:16 My Trek Roscoe 9 build
    10:41 Ray's MTB Park Cleveland Ohio -- random montage
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  • @Dorkbike
    @Dorkbike 2 года назад +44

    As a longtime hardtail dude, this is the best top 10 list.

  • @lopeztelloi
    @lopeztelloi Год назад +6

    100% agree. I'm 52 years old and started mountain biking in the late 80s on a hardtail 😬. After an array of boingers in the 90s and 2000s, I went back to my origins and now ride a modern hardtail. Cheaper, less maintenance and... more fun!

  • @cosmickid1794
    @cosmickid1794 Год назад +5

    well, I'm 65, ordered a Roscoe 7 in 2020 and it showed up two years later, July 2022. Fortunately, it's the 2022 model, got in plenty of rides till winter hit. I've never had a bike like this before, and loving it!!
    Now, getting ready for spring, just moved to Hamilton Ontario from Brantford, so new trails to explore!!!

  • @PaweDrozanski
    @PaweDrozanski Год назад +9

    I rode ht for maaany years and I was ultimately happy. But at one point I’ve decided to switch to enduro and lost all my passion to biking for many years. Yesterday I’ve tried Roscoe at my local bike shop and …. felt that old tingling and love to biking. Trail HT is a way to go ❤

  • @Adventuregirl96
    @Adventuregirl96 Год назад +21

    My husband and I ride road bikes in the Seattle area and my twin has talked my husband into getting a hardtail by showing him this video. Now my husband keeps saying hardtail homie can't lose.

    • @CamMcCaul
      @CamMcCaul  Год назад +2

      Yes!! Hardtail homie can't lose. thats awesome.

  • @Chuck145
    @Chuck145 2 года назад +6

    Just when I was getting tired of my own trail hardtail i find this video. Thanks for getting me stoked again dude!

  • @Tonon487
    @Tonon487 2 года назад +6

    Loving hardtail MTB riding. I started on an older surly karate monkey last year out of necessity and then moved up to a customized Ragley big al a few months ago. It's a blast every time I ride- always puts a grin on my face.

  • @anthonyarruda1145
    @anthonyarruda1145 Год назад +2

    I absolutely love my Roscoe 9 it never gets old to me ever. Its so fun.

  • @garyhutchin
    @garyhutchin 2 года назад +30

    I got my first MTB last May (a Trek Roscoe) and absolutely love it. I've recently progressed onto some of the "easier" black graded trails at my local trail centre, it's been a great bike to learn the necessary skills on.

    • @deividasradziunas3696
      @deividasradziunas3696 2 года назад +1

      I bought Roscoe yesterday, my first mtb. Very excited

    • @danielcuckler2743
      @danielcuckler2743 2 года назад +1

      Which one? Ive got the roscoe 8 and i absolutely love it

    • @deividasradziunas3696
      @deividasradziunas3696 2 года назад

      @@danielcuckler2743 i also have Roscoe 8

    • @danielcuckler2743
      @danielcuckler2743 2 года назад +1

      @@deividasradziunas3696 im loving ny roscoe. Ive taken it on really rugged and rooted trails and it handles everything just fine

  • @zette5115
    @zette5115 2 года назад +1

    yeah, i also like the fender telecaster comparison-exactly understood the meaning.
    i own one and also a strat and i love this spirit of a clear and simple thing what defines the beginning of music history, thx leo!💪🏻

  • @scottholley4712
    @scottholley4712 Месяц назад

    Intelligent and practical advice and insight. This guy is good.

  • @jasperhealy5830
    @jasperhealy5830 2 года назад

    I have a trek roscoe 6 and this is a dream come true to see cam Make a video on this. KEEP SHREDDIN BRA🤟🤟

  • @treyelefsen1689
    @treyelefsen1689 2 года назад +26

    hardtails are the best, I bought myself a Norco Rampage dirt jumper and its so much fun and just recently bought a Commencal Meta ht and its so fun riding things from jumps to downhill it does it all

    • @bert3566
      @bert3566 2 года назад

      How playful is the commencal? I’m thinking about getting that or a Nukeproof scout. I really want a playful bike that’s easy to bunny hop and hit jumps on. What spec did you get on yours? Thanks man

    • @treyelefsen1689
      @treyelefsen1689 2 года назад +1

      @@bert3566 the Commencals heaps playful with the low standover and bit shorter reach, if you want it more playful personally I put but smaller tyres on instead of the 2.8s that come on it, I got the essential spec I believe, it’s not crazy spec but it goes good

    • @bert3566
      @bert3566 2 года назад

      @@treyelefsen1689 Fast response thanks. I’ve been looking at the essential. The most for me is 2.5 anything bigger is to much

    • @treyelefsen1689
      @treyelefsen1689 2 года назад +1

      @@bert3566 yeah with 2.8s it doesn’t feel as nimble and feels a bit sluggish

    • @User18dog
      @User18dog 2 года назад +1

      @@bert3566 get the race over the essential, the fork is better and it’s only 400 more, if you were to buy the same fork it’s be around (1,100)it also has better brakes

  • @sbbeowulf8296
    @sbbeowulf8296 2 года назад +4

    I have a enduro bike and a xc hardtail and the hardtail is so efficient on smoother trails with tons of climbing and it’s so fun

  • @jensthimmvalsted1000
    @jensthimmvalsted1000 Год назад +1

    My Canyon Spectral frame finally gave up after many years of abuse. I just put all the parts on a Santa Cruz Chameleon, and I'm so excited about mountainbiking again!

  • @claydogmadman6295
    @claydogmadman6295 2 года назад +1

    Those red shocks is rocking with that matted tan and faded black, that was definitely the sick thing to do. You took it to a who nother level...👍

  • @tylercrippen6935
    @tylercrippen6935 2 года назад

    I inherited my dad’s 1997 Gary Fisher Hoo Koo E Koo and have been riding that bike for years now with some minor upgrades (air fork made a huge difference). I recently purchased a 2021 Commencal Meta HT that thing is a totally different beast. Crazy geo and big travel up front makes for a good time over terrain I wouldn’t even think about on the Fisher. Hardtails really push you to learn good form and technique and can really make you a great rider before moving straight to full sus and over-biking yourself.

  • @DoomedMidwestern
    @DoomedMidwestern 2 года назад +14

    The only reason I would get rid of my Chromag . . . would be to get a newer Chromag. Hardcore Hardtails are just the best.

    • @mattsquatch412
      @mattsquatch412 2 года назад

      I just got a rootdown and can't wait to get some time in on it!

  • @theblishknovk
    @theblishknovk 3 месяца назад

    I have a base model 2021 Specialized Fuse in 27.5+ and absolutely love it. Feels like a monster truck version of a bmx bike with gears.

  • @my2017raptorhardtail
    @my2017raptorhardtail Год назад +1

    Diehard hardtail rider here. Hell ya!! Love it.

  • @robert50173
    @robert50173 2 года назад +7

    I agree. #11 PNW has a new Coast 120mm dropper with 40mm of air suspension for some cush that helps a lot to bridge the gap between a full sus. #12 Less attractive to steal.

    • @kellyreed8714
      @kellyreed8714 2 года назад +1

      I was looking at that one, but it wouldn’t fit for my bike. So I went with the Pine 27.2.

  • @psychoholicracing837
    @psychoholicracing837 2 года назад +5

    Great list. I actually got faster riding hardtails. Had the 3rd fastest time yesterday on Waterfall Trail in Santiago Oaks. Love beating all the Enduro Bros on black trails even though I’m an intermediate rider on a hardtail. .

  • @kellyreed8714
    @kellyreed8714 2 года назад +2

    I’ve been saving up for a squishy bike, but I really do love riding my hardtail. Only time I get bummed is when I’m passed on the trail, but I think it has more to do with my fitness level than it does the bike.
    Just got to remember to say whatever, just have fun.

  • @workslippers770
    @workslippers770 2 года назад +1

    26'' hard tail rider here keeping the scene alive, airborne and white knuckled! That fakie nosebonk thing on the spine😮

  • @justinbogart278
    @justinbogart278 2 года назад +1

    Awww yeah, ragley mmmbop is making all the local trails more exciting. Can't wait to see how it feels on Redline this summer.

  • @jkwon8703
    @jkwon8703 2 года назад

    Love your garage setting. My garage is too small, planning on building a shed this summer for biks/shop :)
    And yeah hardtail rules!!! (still rocking my 90s, or early 2000s, GT Zaskar Black)

  • @jasonmateus924
    @jasonmateus924 2 года назад

    After 25 years on FS, I just got my new HT frame, I just cant wait to get back to that feeling

  • @TheAllEngineering
    @TheAllEngineering 2 года назад +4

    I Have a Bird Zero AM hardtail, 160mm fork and slack 64 deg ha so much fun to ride. These modern long travel slack hardtails are extremely capable and seriously under rated mainly by people that have never ridden them. I do not have a problem keeping up with friends on their full sus bikes.

    • @DieterVanHolder
      @DieterVanHolder 11 месяцев назад

      I've been riding a Bird Aeris AM9 for years but it's too much for my local winter stuff. I've had my finger on the trigger for a Zero for months. Your comment is the drop that overflows the bucket. I'm ordering 😂

  • @benji523
    @benji523 2 года назад +1

    Seeing Cam as an adult makes me realize how old I am lol! Last time I saw him was on Drop-In. Still loving the hardtails I see, but my body just can't agree with you haha

  • @1_mensch
    @1_mensch 2 года назад +1

    #3!!! Probably the only reason why I will always prefer hardtails. They're just soooo much fun.

  • @nakitojimo2001
    @nakitojimo2001 Год назад +1

    I'm about to buy a hardtail 29er n this video made more convincing to to buy a hardtail.

  • @luca_cometti
    @luca_cometti 2 года назад +1

    I never had a trail bike growing up. just a dirt jumper and dh bike and I still think I have my fastest time on my local trails on that hardtail with a high post. all the effeciency

  • @mc540flip
    @mc540flip 2 года назад +2

    Ha ha, reason #2 was literally me 3 weeks ago. 6 dudes all on 140-150mm trail rigs and me on my Karate Monkey. No problem hanging with the group (mostly blue, sprinkle of black). So fun!

    • @danwebber9494
      @danwebber9494 2 года назад +1

      Even better being an old guy on a hardtail. If you get smoked by a guy over 50 riding a hardtail, you need to rethink your riding!

  • @jasonlewis6914
    @jasonlewis6914 2 года назад

    I freaking love hardtails so much fun. I just picked up a new niner air 9 aluminum hardtail it's a awesome bike super fast!

  • @brunoalary6642
    @brunoalary6642 2 года назад +1

    That's a sweet looking ride!

  • @amandal33
    @amandal33 2 года назад

    great vid! love my Roscoe !

  • @tombreach
    @tombreach 2 года назад +1

    His line 30 rims are iw29 with a 2.6 tire. That tire is a bit above ETRTO range and would give the tire a playful rounded profile. I'm running iw35 with a 2.8, which is the max for 35, rounded profile. I like leaning the bike back and forth to catch the size knobs.

  • @MsHigheagle
    @MsHigheagle 2 года назад +1

    Your so dam right I started on one and went to dh but still have a trail ht, don't really need anything in between

  • @bigbird2451
    @bigbird2451 2 года назад +4

    Another great soundtrack.

  • @ronlawson5819
    @ronlawson5819 Год назад

    Waiting on my new roscoe 9 can’t wait

  • @eatnosenuggets
    @eatnosenuggets 2 года назад +1

    The Fender Telecaster reference is spot on.

  • @auguste57
    @auguste57 2 года назад

    Love your Philosophy!!!

  • @mikea9365
    @mikea9365 3 месяца назад

    I came from a BMX background from the Midwest. Moved to Northern California (dirty 530) a decade ago and stay bombing on my hard tails. Weird looks while crushing downieville on a hard tail 😆

  • @fullerblacksmithing7954
    @fullerblacksmithing7954 2 года назад +2

    Missed the best point ever! #0 has to be how well they pedal over a full suspension!
    I'll be going to Rays in may after I race the Mohican 100 this year!

  • @markt8262
    @markt8262 2 года назад

    I bought a RM Growler with the same colour scheme... Man.. just wicked to be on a modern HT especially with the sand black and red colour.

  • @SnootchieBootchies27
    @SnootchieBootchies27 2 года назад

    Whack-a-mole is the best analogy for finding the creak I have ever seen!

  • @molecularbiologycentralhea56
    @molecularbiologycentralhea56 2 месяца назад

    i own and ride both HT and FS. they each have their advantages. Having said so, Ht is more fun to ride and keeps you in check for skills, yet when racing XC, FS gives the edge.

  • @brandonhoffman4712
    @brandonhoffman4712 2 года назад

    Love the ending! "See don't give up kids" - a human being

  • @chaotictattoo
    @chaotictattoo Год назад +1

    I have a roscoe 9 and a lynskey titanium I build up. Hard tails are just plain fun to ride

  • @LenaCourtney
    @LenaCourtney 10 месяцев назад

    i have a trek roscoe 9 2023, but because it's a size small i can't fit 2 water bottle cages inside the frame (even when i bought the smallest possible water bottles). to combat this, i got a fidlock anywhere cage and strapped it to the top tube. i actually really like the placement of the water bottle there

  • @trailonfire8581
    @trailonfire8581 2 года назад

    For the beginning hardtail's are the best, but I'm happy to ride my Remedy now.

  • @Nogi-aka-DJNugz
    @Nogi-aka-DJNugz 2 года назад +2

    Bought a Marin Trail Boss and I agree. I didn’t like the full suspension I test drove.

  • @ricaaat
    @ricaaat 2 года назад +2

    reason #0: if you start out on a hardtail like me, you'll always dream of how fast and capable you'll be on a full suspension. For the past 2 years of my mtb journey I've been riding my trail hardtail and it was the first bike i ever got. You improve so incredibly fast and i smoke many full squish riders on the descends and of course on the climbs too if i want to!

    • @phillusderpimmelpilz871
      @phillusderpimmelpilz871 2 года назад

      Yes exactly, i switched to a full suspension downhill bike just to notice its the bike who catches my bad riding. The real good riders are on a hardtail like the roscoe

    • @ricaaat
      @ricaaat 2 года назад

      @@phillusderpimmelpilz871do you mean you switched from the full suspension to a hardtail?

    • @phillusderpimmelpilz871
      @phillusderpimmelpilz871 2 года назад

      @@ricaaat nah i switched from hardtail to a fully

  • @diveaddict6885
    @diveaddict6885 2 года назад +1

    I love riding my steel hardtail. Single speed very low maintenance

  • @katsooba
    @katsooba 2 года назад +1

    The ending had the best theme song ever made

  • @laralaa7957
    @laralaa7957 Год назад

    You rock! Good video!!

  • @benlafaver5362
    @benlafaver5362 2 года назад +4

    I got the 2021 Roscoe, awesome bike but I am so jealous of the new 2022 frame!

    • @jackjack-xi7je
      @jackjack-xi7je 2 года назад +1

      Ye I got the Roscoe 8 2021, and was a bit gutted when I saw the 2022, but it's my first MTB so it's more than enough! Also a lot cheaper than the 2022!

    • @lukeneill1568
      @lukeneill1568 Год назад

      @@jackjack-xi7je different geometry on the 22 roscoe than the 21

  • @stephankoehler800
    @stephankoehler800 2 года назад +1

    Agree on all points. Did you mention that they are lighter and so you have less weight to pedal up every hill. Btw, I'm biased because I have a trail hardtail 😄
    But these bikes are so capable. Full sus would make most trails boring as hell for me unless you have proper DH stuff to ride.

  • @Pedrinhopancito
    @Pedrinhopancito 2 года назад

    Hardtails rule! Great video!

  • @georgiaguardian4696
    @georgiaguardian4696 2 года назад

    Agree with you with all your points!

  • @viperdemonz-jenkins
    @viperdemonz-jenkins 2 года назад +1

    have a 2014 giant talon not sure if it is considered a trail bike, but Damm it rocks.

  • @jacobhansonmtb9840
    @jacobhansonmtb9840 2 года назад

    great vid i love my hardtail

  • @eddieknight2202
    @eddieknight2202 2 года назад

    Such a fun video

  • @mountaingoat8788
    @mountaingoat8788 2 года назад

    I Only Own 2 Bikes right Now and they are Both Hardtails lol. NS surge built for AM and My Gf got me a chromag stylus Frame last Year and I Built her up with my stimulus.. I was going to sell my NS but I may keep it for a Buddy Bike/spear Bike or for Longer rides sense its a wee Lighter..

  • @ibanez2010
    @ibanez2010 2 года назад

    Hardtails are oddly addicting. You can't have just one. I'm up to three now and still want to add a few more - steel with gears, steel single 29er, and maybe a dirt jumper...

  • @skimy619
    @skimy619 2 года назад

    riding my hardtail since 2014 🤘

  • @francisdee9955
    @francisdee9955 2 года назад +5

    just bought myself a commencal meta ht 29🥳 it rips! and its a great addition to my full sus!

    • @bert3566
      @bert3566 2 года назад

      How playful is it? I’m looking into either getting that or a Nukeproof scout. I really want a bike that’s playful and easy to bunny hop and hit jumps on. What spec did you get on yours? Thanks man

    • @francisdee9955
      @francisdee9955 2 года назад

      @@bert3566 I bought the race version from 2021 that cost 2350 euros! buy that one! better value for money than the 2022 race version. the deore breaks work very good and the whole groupset does a great job. i only changed the chain to a shimano one! way better shiftig!
      I am 1,78 cm tall and bought a large frame. I think its quite playfull. The M frame would have been too small for me.

    • @francisdee9955
      @francisdee9955 2 года назад

      @@bert3566 maybe take a look at the reach numbers…

  • @michaelfrymus
    @michaelfrymus 2 года назад

    I'm wondering if 140mm travel is good, if it's not too much or too little. But also what head tube angle is best. I'm thinking of this Roscoe 9, it's a bit pricy, but may consider it

  • @noire1991
    @noire1991 2 года назад

    If I want to upgrade my fork how do I select the right offset??

  • @heinrichkleist3473
    @heinrichkleist3473 Год назад

    Also they're the most versatile bike you can possibly get! You can ride them anywhere - pavement, gravel, gnar, bike parks. Hard tails are straight up the best.

  • @buckroger6456
    @buckroger6456 Год назад

    Reason #3 is so true and reason #2 is a classic. What's even more epic is a ridged frame Mtb crushing fullsus bikes.

  • @user-hv8re9tu4y
    @user-hv8re9tu4y 2 года назад +1

    You can use long travel dropper post,

  • @lilb34n_
    @lilb34n_ 2 года назад

    Where can i get a saddle like the one at 1:38? I know BMX bikes have great graphic designs on seats but I've never seen an option on MTBs.

  • @mattgies
    @mattgies 2 года назад

    Haha I have full squish and I have a dirt jumper. Maybe I oughta check out the middle ground. N + 1 and all...

  • @steffgofpv9681
    @steffgofpv9681 Год назад

    Sick bike! Eyeing up this frame right now too, what size brake rotors are you running?

  • @Ricobonito1
    @Ricobonito1 2 года назад +1

    Hear! Hear! Don't give up kids!

  • @shawnpritchard366
    @shawnpritchard366 2 года назад

    Used to ride a hardtail, now riding a rigid for the same reasons. Under-biked rules.
    From Transition TransAM to Kona Unit.

  • @C_Haberstoked
    @C_Haberstoked 2 года назад +1

    Don't give up!

  • @pascualaguon5324
    @pascualaguon5324 Год назад

    Solid Build......by Far.....Hard Tails Rule....For-Rilz💥💥💥💥👌🏻

  • @calvn8or543
    @calvn8or543 2 года назад

    Reason #5 is so true. I cant even hardly bunny hop on full suspension, but i can bunny hop and jump my hard tail.

  • @waldowsxxghostxx8577
    @waldowsxxghostxx8577 Год назад

    Reason why I’m asking I just purchased a 2023 rosco 7 frame only and figured out all my components except the headsets upper and lower because I can’t find specific size?

  • @flailhail
    @flailhail Год назад

    What size frame did you go with as relation to your height? I resently got a rosco 8 and felt like I had to upsize as I was kinda batween sizes.

  • @rodbrown8306
    @rodbrown8306 Год назад +1

    Yeah it's all about the No1 reason!

  • @bert6744
    @bert6744 7 месяцев назад

    Nice!

  • @JT-zb2yn
    @JT-zb2yn 2 года назад +1

    What size forks are those? Look bigger than 150!

  • @fishrideandski4910
    @fishrideandski4910 2 года назад +2

    that looks like a gnarly hardtail

  • @ElYesse
    @ElYesse 2 года назад

    Hey Cam, what kind of bike bag do you use for traveling?

  • @stuart3744
    @stuart3744 2 года назад

    I think you’ve made my mind up on my next bike, have an old Gary fisher paragon which is past its sell by date but been a great bike, 95% I do road cycling but would like to do a bit more off road, don’t laugh but I’m 60 and still cycle fit as fuck, have looked at full sussers but obviously puts the cost up, so I’ll stick with hard tail, any advice on the sram against shimano groupsets.

  • @andersonnjayco647
    @andersonnjayco647 2 года назад

    I have a Tele and a hardcore hardtail! Best of both worlds imo.

  • @gethappycyclingcampingoutdoors
    @gethappycyclingcampingoutdoors 2 года назад

    Cool video ☮️☯️

  • @amdmg7
    @amdmg7 2 года назад

    Yeah, telecaster! Thanks, man)

  • @Zac_Martines
    @Zac_Martines 2 года назад +1

    Makin me miss my 26" chromag hardtail the geo sucked but it still riiiiped and fast too

  • @waldowsxxghostxx8577
    @waldowsxxghostxx8577 Год назад

    What size and brand upper and lower headsets are you rocking on this build?

  • @seanmolloy9422
    @seanmolloy9422 2 года назад

    #5 & #6 !!!

  • @Jcool721
    @Jcool721 2 года назад

    Great list, I would like to add one more. Get a good saddle like Brooks. I'm talking about not sitting on the plastic. You can have some suspension by the saddle :-) I have the SQlab active for winter rides and Brooks Cambium Carved for summer. I sold my 29er plus hd and I'm still riding my fatty. With the Manitou fork in front the weight of the bike is under 14 kg which is amazing.

  • @surkovich
    @surkovich 2 года назад

    cheapest shovel at ace hardware hit home, that is what i use to build at truckee bike park, no expensive shovel needed

  • @johnsheetz6639
    @johnsheetz6639 2 года назад

    Lighter weight no power loss on the pedal. I will admit rear suspension helps you through those when you go a little too fast though.

  • @katiealdana150
    @katiealdana150 2 года назад

    AwesomeRide👍

  • @enriquee.k3329
    @enriquee.k3329 2 года назад

    I have a full suspension, but thinking of getting hard tail 😌

  • @gerardosaucedo2250
    @gerardosaucedo2250 Год назад

    How much travel is that bomber z1?