You mention Thor at his most powerful in this match up when you mention his feats against those like Galactus and more, but fail to do so for Hercules. In Chaos War Hercules literally becomes the God of Gods and gains such immense powers that he battled the entire Council of Godheads, at the same time, solo, and beat them all. He summoned Galactus from across the universe and forced him to work for him, because Galactus was no match. He beat the Chaos King himself.
Rune king Thor destroyed the ones who sit above in shadows easily with one swing which the ones who sit above in shadows are on par with the one above all it still wouldn’t matter if he implemented that version of Hercules cuz Thor still wins
@@astormwave9779 Nah bro, in Chaos War Hercules literally becomes omniscient and gains nigh-Omnipotence. Marvel themselves write this in his bio. Rune King Thor is powerful, but he's never been omniscient nor nigh-Omnipotent. As in just shy of all powerful.(Because only the writer is all powerful in comics)
@@astormwave9779 where did you get that from the ones who sit above in shadows were stated to share certain similarities with the Primal Gods that it about the one above all
The short answer is Thor, in most incarnations. In the comics, classic Thor and Herc are physical equals so in a straight-up brawl without any weapons, they can battle for months without any decisive winner. However when Thor is wielding Mjolnir, that gives the edge to the Thunder god. While Herc's mace is just as durable, it doesn't grant him much in the way of additional abilities like Mjolnir does for Thor. But while they are physical equals, Thor has way more abiities at his disposal, which is why he's the most powerful character in Marvel comics. While both have more powerful versions who are nearly omnipotent (Odinforce Thor, Rune King Thor, Chaos War Herc) those are special cases who aren't really relevant to the discussion, just as Superman Prime One Million isn't realy relevant to disccusions of how powerful Superman is. Now the MCU could certainly change things up- it's a different universe from the comics, and powers/power levels of many characters (including Thor, Thanos, Hulk, Captain Marvel and Hela) are quite different in the movies. But I'm guessing the same basic relationship (equals in strength, Thor with greater overall power) wil exist in the MCU.
Whilst I do agree Thor would win due to his versatility you said Herc hasn't done anything similar to Thor whilst he did drop the Beyonder and poison Galactus and drop him too tackled and matched up to Atum the god eater who all gods fear, fight a kill Klyb'n the skrull skyfather. Toyed with and beat up on Nightmare in his own realm and Pluto in his realm. All comparable.
@@CatotheE totally agree but that's his character he loves life loves living it and loves to drink and fight he has a habit of enjoying fighting so much he doesn't take it seriously enough a good example of Herc taking a fight seriously is the maestro comics where he wrecks hulk and blood oath where he is too drunk and angry to recognise Thor and almost kills him to the point Zeus had to stop him in this fight Thor states that Herc has a slight advantage in strength and skill over Thor.
Comic Hercules is a full god except when Zeus takes it from him and makes him mortal. In The Incredible Herc run, he fought the Tartarus-imprisioned spirit of his mortal form.
You forgot when the Beyonder Had all the avengers Spinning around in a tornado of his power, and Hercules was able to stop that with 1 thunderclap. Beyonder is 1 of, if not the strongest character in the marvel universe. This is Pre Retcon Beyonder I'm talking about also.
They're pretty much even,but what would be fun is putting the Savage Hulk in the middle,imagine a mere mortal putting the two proud Demigods in their place.Its gotta be a fight that's brutal,like when the Hulk invade Asgard,breaking Thor's bones,caving his chest.Who here wouldn't like to see Hulk pounding on Herc's face,while he's on his knees begging to stop the hurt.
Not against hulk and herc. He has just about the same amount of losses as he does wins against them. I only remember herc and Thor fighting once but that was when Thor fought him without using his hammer so Hercules just grabbed him and out him in a choke hold and Thor couldn't break out of it with Thor saying that without his hammer he doesn't stand a chance against Hercules because just like hulk, Hercules is a brute force tank. He doesn't have a versatile power set like Thor who has multiple abilities but his brute strength is top tier after hulk. Marvel had a ranking of physically strongest heroes in marvel and Hercules ranked second after hulk and Thor ranked third. Note this ranking marvel came out with was based on pure strength not overall power.
@@calebstephan2083 that not true without his hammer thor was beating the shit out hercules even zeus was concerned about his son but in the end hercules jump back and clash fist and then they both knocked on the ground ,hercules tricked thor into thinking the fight is over and thor let his guard off and then put thor in a head lock and if the opponent is as strong as you how do you break out of it and then he admitted hercules is the better fighter but he never said he doesn't stand a chance against him without Mjolnir he could have used it but he didn't and instead he finished hercules off with a lightning bolt hercules admitted he lose and also hulk as the same amount of win as thor in 65 fight and thor beat hercules 2 time while hercules beat him once while he was at half power because of odin draining him and thor is just as strong as hercules ,hercules is not stronger and also thor has killed the hulk and the thing at the same time with his barehand in lord of earth he didnt need mjonir to defeated him he can do it by himself and also there are another ranking were thor was second were hercules was third so that irrelevant when they tied for strenght said by marvel itself .
At least in the comics, it’s Thor. I love Hercules, but Thor has a ridiculous amount of powers outside of being in the same physical tier as Hercules. Without Mjolnir, Hercules stands a decent chance for being more skilled. With it, it’s a wash. Mythology, I’d take a Hercules over Thor though.
If I remember correctly without watching the video.Aren’t Thor and Hercules basically friends who sometimes fight but never to the death..Like they team up more often then fight.. Maybe idk
@@Unyieldingwill Thor has no versatility besides lightning? He has weather manipulation, energy absorption and projection, some degree of matter manipulation, he can open portals to other dimensions, flight, teleportation, astral projection, time manipulation and much more I don`t really remember now. Hercules is slightly ahead on raw physical strength and fighting skills but Thor is more powerful across the board. Without weapons in a hand to hand combat I think Hercules will win most of the time but full boosted with all their weapons and abilities, Thor will win mostly. Also, in their most powerful forms, Chaos War Hercules > Rune King Thor.
This is actually an interesting match-up... first one in a long time! If Thor can use Stormbreaker, then he wins easily. If not, then it all comes down to who has the healing factor.
two things about Hercules, 1. his Golden Mace, although not designed to act in the same manner as Thor's Hammer can and has taken a direct blow from said Hammer and come out fine as it is indestructible. 2. Hercules in one story arc attempting to confront a group of assailants in the Avengers mansion, admittedly while intoxicated was brutally beaten by said assailants including mister hyde.
Not exactly. Thor is 100% a god whereas Hercules is a demi-god. His mother is human. He only attains full godhood in certain storylines. Thor has always had full godhood. As for Odin and Zeus, they're equals but demonstrate their powers and abilities in very different ways. Odin is far more involved in universal realities than Zeus. Zeus only cares about being worshipped whereas Odin could care less. In actuality, Odin and Thor have more in common mythologically with the Yoruba gods of Olódùmarè and Ṣàngó. They're literally the same gods with the same powers and abilities but this is not something Marvel has done a good job expounding upon.
Neither one of them is a pedophile rapist. Thor and Odin had their origins well outside of Greek mythology, and were largely untouched by Greek influence.
Herc beats thor with his wresting and grappling techniques yet Thor is more versatile with his weather manipulation comparable strength and weaponry. This is good. Idk who to pick but I'm team Herc
@@siphelelepita4179 know him better then you prob. Also know the comics quite well. Herc has no hax like Thor has. No fancy lightning powers. And in strength and skill ist like 52 48 for herc so thats not a big difference.
For a so called comic book nerd you mention Thor's main weaponry but forgot to bring up Hercules weaponry that can easily even the fight such as the lion skin, club and such.
Hercules is slightly physically stronger base to base but Thor has many other advantages It was shown was Hercules won a hand to hand fight but Thors lightning bolt ended the fight
Thor has enchanted weapons that increase his strength and durability, and he has projectile lightening, On top of that Thor has transformations like the Warriors Madness.
@@vinnylt8813 lmao no what he was a god of strength before he got anything and one thing that enhances anything is his belt that doubles his shit and only uses it for real fights and now adays don't use it because he was already to op and I guess u forgot what warrior madness is that just killed ur argument
@@thomasthunder5887 I didn't have an argument. but I do know the warriors madness increases all of Thors base stats which were already immeasurable no even higher heights.
It matters which Hercules you’re actually talking about because Hercules was never actually a god in any of these comics now if Zeus endowed him with powers of a God I think it would be a totally different fight
If Hercules is stronger Its probably by a smidget if that, where Thor truly outclasses him is in overall power, Thor is able to fly, conjure up Lighting bolts big enough to destroy a city and to top it off he has Storm breaker and Mjolnir
Yeah, Hercules is physically stronger. Thor himself admitted in comics that he can't match up against Hercules and hulk in pure strength. He admitted that he was always physically weaker than hulk in the fear itself storyline and he admitted that Hercules was physically superior to him in that one comic where he fought Hercules without his hammer and Hercules put him in a choke hold and he couldn't break out of it. That doesn't mean Thor is overall less powerful since Thor has a more versatile power set compared to hulk and herc which would even the playing field but in terms of just pure strength, herc is superior.
My favorite Hercules story is a filler issue written by Walt in Thor about a little boy being bullied by a group of kids. Hercules doesn’t know what really is happening and tells exaggerated stories about how he defeated Thor repeatedly. It's a heartwarming tale (once the big dumbie figures out what's going on) ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ the moral of the story (and it goes for Hulk and Thor also) is the biggest muscle Herc has is his heart, and that makes him a hero.
Hercules is physically stronger and is a better hand to hand fighter than Thor. Thor himself admitted this but Thor is overall more versatile because of his wide range of abilities and his godly weapon. Hercules just relies on his brute strength and hand to hand fighting ability. It's a wonder why Hercules just never went to his brother Hephaestus to make a weapon that could rival mjionir. Hephaestus aka his half brother is the literal god of blacksmith and created all of the Greek gods powerful weapons in marvel comics and even created Zeus powerful lightning bolts. I have no idea why Hercules never went and got something powerful made for him to add more versatility to his combat ability. Also Hercules with just his brute strength and combat skills isn't someone to be messed with. He has beaten ares everytime they fought as stated in comics which is why ares hates his guts and ares is so powerful that Thor even struggles with him when they fight. The fact Hercules managed to beat him every single time over thousands of years is impressive as hell.
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Marvel comics highlight Hercules as being the physically strongest character in the entire Marvel universe,beating Hulk and any cosmic being easily. Hercules is regarded as the strongest Marvel character there is because his strength is nearly unlimited. He is even stronger than Hulk,whose strength will only increase as he gets angry.But Hercules,at his base strength level,is stronger than anyone else in the Marvel universe and can carry objects that are seemingly beyond the capacity of all of the other characters
@@top-gnews8333 how an alien like superman can rekt everyone and everything with low difficult? It's doesn't matter if it's God or human and sentry i believe he can rekt Thor and it's not a God.
What if Hercules got the infinity gauntlet? Now I for one would love to see what Herc would do. Power corrupts right? But is that just mortals that can be corrupted? Maybe set yourself on a large paradise planet, where one can engage every vice all at once and unlimited food and drink. Herc has to eat. Ambrosia and dragon stew? A arena to fight against anything and anyone as he wished it. Wave Galactus and the Skrulls from existence? Provide sustenance to every being in existence?
Always knew they were somewhat similar in myth and marvel Can You Also Do DoomGuy Vs Kratos or Samus Aran And Asura From Asura Wrath VS Kratos God of War
He lost to Zeus. But I still think he wins here because of his mystic powers. Hercules has no mystic powers. He has no counter. That would be like the Hulk fighting Dr. Strange.
@@Think1stMedia also not to mention Thor has all father abilities an has a fraction of odins force he literally created his own enchantment now which only odin could do and he passed his power to multiple beings temporarily off course but he still has to awaken the Odinforce completely but it’s definitely not gonna be a easy fight for Thor he and hercules are on par in strength but I think hercules has the edge because Thor is still growing in strength as a young god.
@@karitv6157 in the MCU Thor isn't particularly young. At 1500 years old he's the equivalent of being in his early 30s. Yeah he's still growing in strength but MCU Asgardians only have 5000 year lifespans.
Before I watch... If we're talking strength then I think Hercules might win the day here by a nose. If we're talking power... then I think Thor takes this... no two ways about it!
Taika Waititi would have them as Daffy Duck and Sylvester the cat. Who would win ? I no longer care, I'll be watching Simpsons reruns: funnier and less offensive to my comic loving sensibilities.
This is like saying, Which one would win in a fight - an M-1 tank or an F-22 fighter jet? Thor can fly and call in air strikes. Hardly a battle. He should have understood that in Endgame when he fought Thanos.
Absorbing man vs drax the destroyer Kraven the hunter vs bane Hotu Thanos vs god emperor doom Cyttorak VS dormammu Trion juggernaut vs superboy prime Mangog vs onslaught Kang vs apocalypse Pre retcon beyonder vs mandrakk (DAX novu)
Absorbing man Kraven Thanos by a thin margin Dormammu Super boy prime Onslaught Kang Beyonder. I have a couple for you Silver Surfer vs Virgo Shaka Iron Man vs Pegasus Seiya Thor vs Leo Aiolia Ghost Rider vs Phoenix Ikki Who wins and why?
@@juanlegendre3492 honestly i have never seen this anime so i can't really say who beats who i don't know the characters. Is it worth watching tho? Maybe I will give it a try. It's called legend of sanctuary right?
@@juanlegendre3492 cyttorak would beat dormammu tho, marvel stated themselves that he was the strongest demon he is more powerfull than Zom and Zom is far above dormammu, cyttorak fought nightmare and satanish. Juggernaut fought nightmare amped eternity with a fraction of cyttoraks power.
@@juanlegendre3492 trion juggernaut vs superboy prime would be nice to see, i bet on juggernaut but this one is tricky, juggernaut was punching holes trough space time and and was punching trough dimensional barriers altering reality, he could travel trough other dimensions and even did go to oblivion, oblivion is one of the highest abstract beings in marvel he is above eternity, infinity,master order, lord chaos, phoenix force, oblivion couldn't kill juggernaut in his own realm they fought eventually he kicked juggernaut out because he couldnt defeat him. Trion juggernaut was 100ft tall and has all the power of cyttorak, and trion demon. Regular juggernaut took the godblast unharmed that killed celestials. Marvel stated that normal juggernaut has durability on level of celestials, trion juggernaut is even more crazy and is on the level of cosmic entities.
We like both characters, and it’s been well established that they are friends and would not hurt each other. Foolish competition, obviously Thor is more powerful despite the recent run of sky father Hercules.
Technically it’s all dependent on what the writer is thinking at the time. Whatever he puts down on paper is what the final result ends up being. Welcome to planet earth :-)
@@mitche5007 But currently the stronger one is Hercules. Chaos war Hercules. Thor is my favorite marvel heroe, but we don't know if Rune King Thor could do what Chaos war Hercules did.
No.First off Hercules already had god like strength due to having drank milk from Heras breasts. Second off in the comics Hercules has long since ascended to FULL godhood
@@newhybrid101 ah thanks, I was under the impression that he was just given full godhood status but did not get any extra god powers or immortality in addition to his strength. I’m no expert on comic Herc though. I could be wrong. My point was just that I agreed with the video’s assessment that Thor’s god powers are what give him an edge.
@@justsomeguy4033 many Olympians don't have any extra magical prowess most of them good physical prowess and fighting skills, but still a good, if not most have the capabilities to use / learn magic, such as zues, and some like ares have lower level magic, that's why her only has physical strength, but don't let that think he is weak his physical prowess is far better than a average olympain . He also defeated ares multiple times. But's his funny that he hai zeus son, but doesn't have any capabilities to use magic. But olympain still have immortality, even hercules, and have true immortality unlike Asgardins who need apple to sustain their life spain, Olympians don't need them, as they have ice instead of blood running through their vein. They also can speak all languages. So hercules - super human physical prowess, skill, battle iq and immortality, with all - speak Fun fact : superman can also speak all languages.
I know that this is a discussion about the match up between Thor and Hercules there are a couple things I felt needed cleaned up on your assessment of some of their other side battles. It’s true both have IMMENSE POWER AND STRENGTH, but you mention how both were able to take out the being GLACTUS and I certainly have a comment about that. I can agree with you that a GLACTUS weakened from long periods of not eating a planet might make him vulnerable. But you forget that even in that vulnerable weakened state it took virtually all the worlds superhero’s to bring him down and they only were able to do so when doctor strange was able to get into his mind and show him the trillions of innocent souls he killed which basically drove GALACTUS into shock. That being said, a FULLY JUICED GALACTUS would make short work of either or both Herc and Thor! Herc actually felt this cosmic wrath in one comic I read when without thinking he decided because of GALACTUS’S sheer size, this would be a glorious battle for the Olympian, so he lunged at GALACTUS, which did nothing more than enrage him and resulted in GALACTUS turning on the cosmic high beams to fry Herc where he stood, reduced what was left of his ashes into a gooey proto plasm, then TOTALLY reconstructed Herc back to life. In that edition of the comic it said it was the first time Herc felt humbled! I’m not even going to say much about a matchup with Thor and GALACTUS, a being on the scale of the celestial. I’ll say this though in one of the comics I had back in the 80s-I believe it was the NEW MUTANTS -the celestial came to judge the earth and Thor hit him with both barrels of lighting and it didn’t phase him a bit. Didn’t make a scratch. I guess what I’m trying to say is that if your gonna pit these two beings-Herc and Thor - in a matchup definitely go for it because it’s exciting to see these two go at it. Just be a bit more mindful of their individual back stories when you do.
Hercules actually has weapons and is skilled with all weapons he just chooses to mostly to use his hands. He has Bow and arrows with Hydra blood from Apollo, mace from Hephaestus, the lion pelt which also protected him. Would be curious to see what would happen if Hercules did use his bow with arrows that were dipped in the Hydra's blood what would happen to Thor?
One thing that should be mentioned, Thor has said that Hercules is more skilled than him and he would not be able to beat him without his magical gear (Mjolnr, the iron bracers, the magical belt).
Are you crazy,so are we gonna ignore the power hercules also had when he fought the chaos king,even then hercules is still more powerful than thor,hercules has bested thor on more than one occasion.
Your are talking about a Powered Up Hercules. That Hercules was even more powerful than Rune King Thor. That was a temporary power up. Unfortunately Herc has no mystic powers. If he did, he wins.
Thor; "So you think you can defeat me?" He sighs, "Here then. Hold my hammer." As he generously hands over the magical hammer. Hercules; "What a good move warrior." As he accepts the hammer. Thor; 🤭 Hercules; "By the gods, what witchcraft is this?" The confused god looks helplessly at his now immovable hand pinned to the ground by this remarkably heavy hammer, even for the Greek god of strength. Thor; "I have waited a long time to say this, Hercules you are not worthy."
Ms. Marvel doesn't good in combat and lack of speed and reaction Spider-Man is stronger, more agile. He also has his famous spider sense and spider web Spider-Man wins
@@King_Douzer4 I agree Spider-Man wins. But I don’t think it’s a blowout as much. Ms marvel honestly has the potential to be more powerful than Spider-Man. Her powers will be enough to keep her in the fight for a while. Problem is she lacks a lot of feats unlike Spider-Man.
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You mention Thor at his most powerful in this match up when you mention his feats against those like Galactus and more, but fail to do so for Hercules. In Chaos War Hercules literally becomes the God of Gods and gains such immense powers that he battled the entire Council of Godheads, at the same time, solo, and beat them all. He summoned Galactus from across the universe and forced him to work for him, because Galactus was no match. He beat the Chaos King himself.
EXACTLY 💯
Rune king Thor destroyed the ones who sit above in shadows easily with one swing which the ones who sit above in shadows are on par with the one above all it still wouldn’t matter if he implemented that version of Hercules cuz Thor still wins
@@astormwave9779 Nah bro, in Chaos War Hercules literally becomes omniscient and gains nigh-Omnipotence. Marvel themselves write this in his bio. Rune King Thor is powerful, but he's never been omniscient nor nigh-Omnipotent. As in just shy of all powerful.(Because only the writer is all powerful in comics)
@@7BitBrian you mad no facts all 🧢
@@astormwave9779 where did you get that from the ones who sit above in shadows were stated to share certain similarities with the Primal Gods that it about the one above all
The short answer is Thor, in most incarnations.
In the comics, classic Thor and Herc are physical equals so in a straight-up brawl without any weapons, they can battle for months without any decisive winner. However when Thor is wielding Mjolnir, that gives the edge to the Thunder god. While Herc's mace is just as durable, it doesn't grant him much in the way of additional abilities like Mjolnir does for Thor. But while they are physical equals, Thor has way more abiities at his disposal, which is why he's the most powerful character in Marvel comics.
While both have more powerful versions who are nearly omnipotent (Odinforce Thor, Rune King Thor, Chaos War Herc) those are special cases who aren't really relevant to the discussion, just as Superman Prime One Million isn't realy relevant to disccusions of how powerful Superman is.
Now the MCU could certainly change things up- it's a different universe from the comics, and powers/power levels of many characters (including Thor, Thanos, Hulk, Captain Marvel and Hela) are quite different in the movies. But I'm guessing the same basic relationship (equals in strength, Thor with greater overall power) wil exist in the MCU.
Whilst I do agree Thor would win due to his versatility you said Herc hasn't done anything similar to Thor whilst he did drop the Beyonder and poison Galactus and drop him too tackled and matched up to Atum the god eater who all gods fear, fight a kill Klyb'n the skrull skyfather. Toyed with and beat up on Nightmare in his own realm and Pluto in his realm. All comparable.
These are fair points. I think Hercules has been written as a bit of a jobber unfortunately. He should be a super heavyweight character.
@@CatotheE totally agree but that's his character he loves life loves living it and loves to drink and fight he has a habit of enjoying fighting so much he doesn't take it seriously enough a good example of Herc taking a fight seriously is the maestro comics where he wrecks hulk and blood oath where he is too drunk and angry to recognise Thor and almost kills him to the point Zeus had to stop him in this fight Thor states that Herc has a slight advantage in strength and skill over Thor.
Didn't he beat the Chaos Kimg up too ?
Hercules claps Thor hard
Hercules> Thor
A full god Hercules is a beast. Right now he is just a half god, but still strong ass hell. If he was a full god, man.
He did his conquests hera welcomed him as a full god
Comic Hercules is a full god except when Zeus takes it from him and makes him mortal. In The Incredible Herc run, he fought the Tartarus-imprisioned spirit of his mortal form.
You forgot when the Beyonder Had all the avengers Spinning around in a tornado of his power, and Hercules was able to stop that with 1 thunderclap. Beyonder is 1 of, if not the strongest character in the marvel universe. This is Pre Retcon Beyonder I'm talking about also.
They're pretty much even,but what would be fun is putting the Savage Hulk in the middle,imagine a mere mortal putting the two proud Demigods in their place.Its gotta be a fight that's brutal,like when the Hulk invade Asgard,breaking Thor's bones,caving his chest.Who here wouldn't like to see Hulk pounding on Herc's face,while he's on his knees begging to stop the hurt.
Thor normally gets the better of them but Hercules has insane feats
Not against hulk and herc. He has just about the same amount of losses as he does wins against them. I only remember herc and Thor fighting once but that was when Thor fought him without using his hammer so Hercules just grabbed him and out him in a choke hold and Thor couldn't break out of it with Thor saying that without his hammer he doesn't stand a chance against Hercules because just like hulk, Hercules is a brute force tank. He doesn't have a versatile power set like Thor who has multiple abilities but his brute strength is top tier after hulk. Marvel had a ranking of physically strongest heroes in marvel and Hercules ranked second after hulk and Thor ranked third. Note this ranking marvel came out with was based on pure strength not overall power.
@@calebstephan2083 that not true without his hammer thor was beating the shit out hercules even zeus was concerned about his son but in the end hercules jump back and clash fist and then they both knocked on the ground ,hercules tricked thor into thinking the fight is over and thor let his guard off and then put thor in a head lock and if the opponent is as strong as you how do you break out of it and then he admitted hercules is the better fighter but he never said he doesn't stand a chance against him without Mjolnir he could have used it but he didn't and instead he finished hercules off with a lightning bolt hercules admitted he lose and also hulk as the same amount of win as thor in 65 fight and thor beat hercules 2 time while hercules beat him once while he was at half power because of odin draining him and thor is just as strong as hercules ,hercules is not stronger and also thor has killed the hulk and the thing at the same time with his barehand in lord of earth he didnt need mjonir to defeated him he can do it by himself and also there are another ranking were thor was second were hercules was third so that irrelevant when they tied for strenght said by marvel itself .
At least in the comics, it’s Thor. I love Hercules, but Thor has a ridiculous amount of powers outside of being in the same physical tier as Hercules. Without Mjolnir, Hercules stands a decent chance for being more skilled. With it, it’s a wash. Mythology, I’d take a Hercules over Thor though.
Did you not here what he said they have been fighting in the comics and they both win and lose to another some times
This ain't the comics boy.
You are delusional and WRONG. It is Hercules in the comics and Hercules win PERIOD. NUFF SAID
@@keemerbecks3941 Nah bro atleast not in the Comics
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Especially, in the comics
If I remember correctly without watching the video.Aren’t Thor and Hercules basically friends who sometimes fight but never to the death..Like they team up more often then fight.. Maybe idk
They are closely matched in terms of physical brute and fighting skills, but thor has range attacks and versatility
He don’t got no versatility 😭it’s all lightning
@@Unyieldingwill Thor has no versatility besides lightning? He has weather manipulation, energy absorption and projection, some degree of matter manipulation, he can open portals to other dimensions, flight, teleportation, astral projection, time manipulation and much more I don`t really remember now. Hercules is slightly ahead on raw physical strength and fighting skills but Thor is more powerful across the board. Without weapons in a hand to hand combat I think Hercules will win most of the time but full boosted with all their weapons and abilities, Thor will win mostly. Also, in their most powerful forms, Chaos War Hercules > Rune King Thor.
@@alinnistor7871 literally thor never uses any of his other powers it doesn’t matter
@@Unyieldingwill What do you mean he never uses his other powers?
This is actually an interesting match-up... first one in a long time!
If Thor can use Stormbreaker, then he wins easily.
If not, then it all comes down to who has the healing factor.
Did you even watch the video
two things about Hercules, 1. his Golden Mace, although not designed to act in the same manner as Thor's Hammer can and has taken a direct blow from said Hammer and come out fine as it is indestructible. 2. Hercules in one story arc attempting to confront a group of assailants in the Avengers mansion, admittedly while intoxicated was brutally beaten by said assailants
including mister hyde.
Hmmm.... Hercules’s slight strength advantage & better fighting skills vs Thor’s versatility. As 50-50 as it gets.
Thor and Odin are simply Norse equivalents of Zeus and Hercules
Not exactly. Thor is 100% a god whereas Hercules is a demi-god. His mother is human. He only attains full godhood in certain storylines. Thor has always had full godhood. As for Odin and Zeus, they're equals but demonstrate their powers and abilities in very different ways. Odin is far more involved in universal realities than Zeus. Zeus only cares about being worshipped whereas Odin could care less.
In actuality, Odin and Thor have more in common mythologically with the Yoruba gods of Olódùmarè and Ṣàngó. They're literally the same gods with the same powers and abilities but this is not something Marvel has done a good job expounding upon.
Neither one of them is a pedophile rapist. Thor and Odin had their origins well outside of Greek mythology, and were largely untouched by Greek influence.
@@dadisiolutosin Thor is half god
Hercules is a problem
Hercules was known for being strong and smart thor was known for drinking and being fat and watching mortals fight each other
Herc beats thor with his wresting and grappling techniques yet Thor is more versatile with his weather manipulation comparable strength and weaponry. This is good. Idk who to pick but I'm team Herc
Agree its quite equal with no weapons, but mjolnir and his lightning powers are something herc just has little response for.
@@deanvanzelst5011 that's all I'm sayin lol
@@deanvanzelst5011 when you don't know Hercules
@@jaabaar2240 Hercules claps Thor hard
@@siphelelepita4179 know him better then you prob. Also know the comics quite well. Herc has no hax like Thor has. No fancy lightning powers. And in strength and skill ist like 52 48 for herc so thats not a big difference.
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For a so called comic book nerd you mention Thor's main weaponry but forgot to bring up Hercules weaponry that can easily even the fight such as the lion skin, club and such.
Hes a known Thor fanboy and it isnt suprising who he champions.
Thor is also Hercules' great granduncle or great great uncle cause he's the son of Gaea.
Ragnarok Thor versus The Rock Hercules would be great
That’s unfair
Hercules is slightly physically stronger base to base but Thor has many other advantages
It was shown was Hercules won a hand to hand fight but Thors lightning bolt ended the fight
That's one fight Thor's beaten hurc fist to fist 3 times and took on all the Olympians 3 times
Thor has enchanted weapons that increase his strength and durability, and he has projectile lightening, On top of that Thor has transformations like the Warriors Madness.
@@vinnylt8813 lmao no what he was a god of strength before he got anything and one thing that enhances anything is his belt that doubles his shit and only uses it for real fights and now adays don't use it because he was already to op and I guess u forgot what warrior madness is that just killed ur argument
Hercules is definitely leagues stronger than Thor
@@thomasthunder5887 I didn't have an argument. but I do know the warriors madness increases all of Thors base stats which were already immeasurable no even higher heights.
It matters which Hercules you’re actually talking about because Hercules was never actually a god in any of these comics now if Zeus endowed him with powers of a God I think it would be a totally different fight
We literally saw Hercules for like 5 seconds in love and thunder if and I hope Thor 5 gets made we will see then fight
I'm pretty sure he talking about comic versions
@@nightmare_1874 have they fought already in the comics if yes which issue
Taiki Waititi gonna fuck that up too if he dont chill with the lame comedy.
Their fate is in the hands of their scriptwriters lol🤣✌✌
If Hercules is stronger Its probably by a smidget if that, where Thor truly outclasses him is in overall power, Thor is able to fly, conjure up Lighting bolts big enough to destroy a city and to top it off he has Storm breaker and Mjolnir
stfu about stormbreaker. Stop mixing comic and films. Stormbreaker in the comics is less than or equal to mjolnir and belongs to beta ray bill
Man, i thought stormbreaker already chipped off from the last battle
Yeah, Hercules is physically stronger. Thor himself admitted in comics that he can't match up against Hercules and hulk in pure strength. He admitted that he was always physically weaker than hulk in the fear itself storyline and he admitted that Hercules was physically superior to him in that one comic where he fought Hercules without his hammer and Hercules put him in a choke hold and he couldn't break out of it. That doesn't mean Thor is overall less powerful since Thor has a more versatile power set compared to hulk and herc which would even the playing field but in terms of just pure strength, herc is superior.
@@calebstephan2083 I think they're both on the same tier as far as strength, but Thor totally washes him in all out fight to the finish
I used to have the comic book of Thor and Hercules when Thor beat Hercules in front of Hercules dad Zeus
They have to play this right in the mcu Adanamantine is said to be the godly version of adamantium n I’ve never seen it broken insanely strong metal
Yep, in the comics legends of adamantine are what inspired Earth scientists to try and create super-metals back in WW2. whe
Do yoga khan vs Uranus dc vs marvel
after watching love and thunder im so excited to see this fight this really hit my expectations unlike multiverse of madness
My favorite Hercules story is a filler issue written by Walt in Thor about a little boy being bullied by a group of kids. Hercules doesn’t know what really is happening and tells exaggerated stories about how he defeated Thor repeatedly. It's a heartwarming tale (once the big dumbie figures out what's going on) ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ the moral of the story (and it goes for Hulk and Thor also) is the biggest muscle Herc has is his heart, and that makes him a hero.
Salute to Kevin Surbo, every time I think of Hercules his image pops up.
What has never been discussed in great detail, is the power of the earth godess which he inherited from his mother.
Hercules is physically stronger and is a better hand to hand fighter than Thor. Thor himself admitted this but Thor is overall more versatile because of his wide range of abilities and his godly weapon. Hercules just relies on his brute strength and hand to hand fighting ability. It's a wonder why Hercules just never went to his brother Hephaestus to make a weapon that could rival mjionir. Hephaestus aka his half brother is the literal god of blacksmith and created all of the Greek gods powerful weapons in marvel comics and even created Zeus powerful lightning bolts. I have no idea why Hercules never went and got something powerful made for him to add more versatility to his combat ability. Also Hercules with just his brute strength and combat skills isn't someone to be messed with. He has beaten ares everytime they fought as stated in comics which is why ares hates his guts and ares is so powerful that Thor even struggles with him when they fight. The fact Hercules managed to beat him every single time over thousands of years is impressive as hell.
Disney wants us to sympathize with Wanda for losing her imaginary kids even after enslaving an entire town, Thor lost his actual family, and home world. He's the most tragic hero in the Avengers and they want us to laugh at him.
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Marvel comics highlight Hercules as being the physically strongest character in the entire Marvel universe,beating Hulk and any cosmic being easily.
Hercules is regarded as the strongest Marvel character there is because his strength is nearly unlimited. He is even stronger than Hulk,whose strength will only increase as he gets angry.But Hercules,at his base strength level,is stronger than anyone else in the Marvel universe and can carry objects that are seemingly beyond the capacity of all of the other characters
Hercules never beat the Hulk.
@@BrotherDerrick3X ye he never did but that’s because he didn’t want to hurt banner, so he just took a beating from hulk
Lmao what? Hulk has trashed Hercules plenty of times 😂
@@BrotherDerrick3X ok u not know what u talking about
@@valentinoopris916 apparently you don't either. Your grammar is terrible.
Suggestion: Carrie Wells (Unforgettable) vs Cayce Bridges (Fear)
plus he has the hammers and the new side-kick~Love
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Dang right you did them both justice 🎉❤😮😅
Suggestion: Ingrid Knudsen (Cobra) vs Amalia (Six Bullets)
Please feature Kraven The Hunter vs The Stalker ( Batman Beyond).
Have to go for Kraven. Reason experience.
Who wins Thor vs Leo Aiolia and why?
this is one of those it just depends on who the writer wants to win theyre such equals
Hercules is physically stronger not by much but Thor is more powerful, versatile, and has more hax. Im going with Thor for sure.
Hercules can't be physically stronger in the comics since thor has inf strength
They’re both pretty even in terms of physical strength but Hercules is a better brawler.
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Hercules strength is infinite and he the only character that has the feat to prove this and Hercules is more skilled than Thor
@@mekhilipsey1998 how can a half human Match a God
@@top-gnews8333 how an alien like superman can rekt everyone and everything with low difficult? It's doesn't matter if it's God or human and sentry i believe he can rekt Thor and it's not a God.
I feel like this a Godzilla vs King Kong comparison
Thor is a God and Hercules is a half God.
What if Hercules got the infinity gauntlet? Now I for one would love to see what Herc would do. Power corrupts right? But is that just mortals that can be corrupted?
Maybe set yourself on a large paradise planet, where one can engage every vice all at once and unlimited food and drink. Herc has to eat.
Ambrosia and dragon stew? A arena to fight against anything and anyone as he wished it. Wave Galactus and the Skrulls from existence? Provide sustenance to every being in existence?
Too early? We haven't see anything but a cameo of Hercules.
Always knew they were somewhat similar in myth and marvel Can You Also Do DoomGuy Vs Kratos or Samus Aran And Asura From Asura Wrath VS Kratos God of War
Suggestion: Nicki Remires ( Walker) vs Brooke Baker (Acts of Violence)
Thor finna clap just like he did zues lol
He lost to Zeus. But I still think he wins here because of his mystic powers. Hercules has no mystic powers. He has no counter. That would be like the Hulk fighting Dr. Strange.
@@Think1stMedia W comment🤝
@@Think1stMedia also not to mention Thor has all father abilities an has a fraction of odins force he literally created his own enchantment now which only odin could do and he passed his power to multiple beings temporarily off course but he still has to awaken the Odinforce completely but it’s definitely not gonna be a easy fight for Thor he and hercules are on par in strength but I think hercules has the edge because Thor is still growing in strength as a young god.
@@Think1stMedia World War Hulk beat Dr Strange.
@@karitv6157 in the MCU Thor isn't particularly young. At 1500 years old he's the equivalent of being in his early 30s. Yeah he's still growing in strength but MCU Asgardians only have 5000 year lifespans.
He lifted 20 plantets with one arm
Taking comic refrences to compare won't give any actual comparison in the MCU
exactly, the MCU is an entirely different universe. Sadly, people frequently forget that.
Hercules(Marvel) vs Juggernaut
Boba Fett vs Black Manta
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Before I watch...
If we're talking strength then I think Hercules might win the day here by a nose.
If we're talking power... then I think Thor takes this... no two ways about it!
Alright , Hercules vs gladiator, Hercules vs firestorm , Hyperion vs Hercules
You should do Harley Quinn vs Jinx.
In a battle by only mythical lore I wonder who would win Hercules or Thor
Thor has that hammer and flight. Thor wins.
Taika Waititi would have them as Daffy Duck and Sylvester the cat. Who would win ? I no longer care, I'll be watching Simpsons reruns: funnier and less offensive to my comic loving sensibilities.
This is like saying, Which one would win in a fight - an M-1 tank or an F-22 fighter jet?
Thor can fly and call in air strikes. Hardly a battle.
He should have understood that in Endgame when he fought Thanos.
You should do Dceu Zeus vs Marvel Zeus
So Thor gets his hammer and Hercules doesn't get any of the numerous weapons he has cool check
Green Goblin (NWH) vs Captain America (MCU)
Fell asleep halfway through this.
Hercules is not faster than THOR, because THOR can activate the speed of thunder, he can have the speed of his THUNDER, IT'S LIKE SUPER SPEED!!!!.
Worthy Captain America (Endgame) vs Evil Superman (DCEU)
You forgot about skyfather hercales
Do titans rebirth vs X-men heroes
Or teen titans vs young avengers
Do more team battles
Absorbing man vs drax the destroyer
Kraven the hunter vs bane
Hotu Thanos vs god emperor doom
Cyttorak VS dormammu
Trion juggernaut vs superboy prime
Mangog vs onslaught
Kang vs apocalypse
Pre retcon beyonder vs mandrakk (DAX novu)
Absorbing man
Kraven
Thanos by a thin margin
Dormammu
Super boy prime
Onslaught
Kang
Beyonder.
I have a couple for you
Silver Surfer vs Virgo Shaka
Iron Man vs Pegasus Seiya
Thor vs Leo Aiolia
Ghost Rider vs Phoenix Ikki
Who wins and why?
@@juanlegendre3492 honestly i have never seen this anime so i can't really say who beats who i don't know the characters. Is it worth watching tho? Maybe I will give it a try. It's called legend of sanctuary right?
@@juanlegendre3492 cyttorak would beat dormammu tho, marvel stated themselves that he was the strongest demon he is more powerfull than Zom and Zom is far above dormammu, cyttorak fought nightmare and satanish. Juggernaut fought nightmare amped eternity with a fraction of cyttoraks power.
@@juanlegendre3492 trion juggernaut vs superboy prime would be nice to see, i bet on juggernaut but this one is tricky, juggernaut was punching holes trough space time and and was punching trough dimensional barriers altering reality, he could travel trough other dimensions and even did go to oblivion, oblivion is one of the highest abstract beings in marvel he is above eternity, infinity,master order, lord chaos, phoenix force, oblivion couldn't kill juggernaut in his own realm they fought eventually he kicked juggernaut out because he couldnt defeat him. Trion juggernaut was 100ft tall and has all the power of cyttorak, and trion demon. Regular juggernaut took the godblast unharmed that killed celestials. Marvel stated that normal juggernaut has durability on level of celestials, trion juggernaut is even more crazy and is on the level of cosmic entities.
@@juanlegendre3492 the rest i quite agree with 👍🏾, trion juggy and sbp would be crazy if danco did it.
We like both characters, and it’s been well established that they are friends and would not hurt each other. Foolish competition, obviously Thor is more powerful despite the recent run of sky father Hercules.
Technically Hercules is stronger. If we use their strongest form.
Technically it’s all dependent on what the writer is thinking at the time. Whatever he puts down on paper is what the final result ends up being. Welcome to planet earth :-)
@@mitche5007 But currently the stronger one is Hercules. Chaos war Hercules. Thor is my favorite marvel heroe, but we don't know if Rune King Thor could do what Chaos war Hercules did.
you can't kill Thor if he gets Rage, he's so powerful.
its cool when see the past of herculas
You will never convince me a demigod will beat a god
I think in the movie they start out as enemies but later have to team up for bigger foe ???
Well if Hercules is only a demigod while Thor is a full god🤷🏼♂️
No.First off Hercules already had god like strength due to having drank milk from Heras breasts.
Second off in the comics Hercules has long since ascended to FULL godhood
@@newhybrid101 ah thanks, I was under the impression that he was just given full godhood status but did not get any extra god powers or immortality in addition to his strength.
I’m no expert on comic Herc though. I could be wrong. My point was just that I agreed with the video’s assessment that Thor’s god powers are what give him an edge.
@@justsomeguy4033 many Olympians don't have any extra magical prowess most of them good physical prowess and fighting skills, but still a good, if not most have the capabilities to use / learn magic, such as zues, and some like ares have lower level magic, that's why her only has physical strength, but don't let that think he is weak his physical prowess is far better than a average olympain . He also defeated ares multiple times. But's his funny that he hai zeus son, but doesn't have any capabilities to use magic. But olympain still have immortality, even hercules, and have true immortality unlike Asgardins who need apple to sustain their life spain, Olympians don't need them, as they have ice instead of blood running through their vein. They also can speak all languages. So hercules - super human physical prowess, skill, battle iq and immortality, with all - speak
Fun fact : superman can also speak all languages.
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I know that this is a discussion about the match up between Thor and Hercules there are a couple things I felt needed cleaned up on your assessment of some of their other side battles. It’s true both have IMMENSE POWER AND STRENGTH, but you mention how both were able to take out the being GLACTUS and I certainly have a comment about that. I can agree with you that a GLACTUS weakened from long periods of not eating a planet might make him vulnerable. But you forget that even in that vulnerable weakened state it took virtually all the worlds superhero’s to bring him down and they only were able to do so when doctor strange was able to get into his mind and show him the trillions of innocent souls he killed which basically drove GALACTUS into shock. That being said, a FULLY JUICED GALACTUS would make short work of either or both Herc and Thor! Herc actually felt this cosmic wrath in one comic I read when without thinking he decided because of GALACTUS’S sheer size, this would be a glorious battle for the Olympian, so he lunged at GALACTUS, which did nothing more than enrage him and resulted in GALACTUS turning on the cosmic high beams to fry Herc where he stood, reduced what was left of his ashes into a gooey proto plasm, then TOTALLY reconstructed Herc back to life. In that edition of the comic it said it was the first time Herc felt humbled! I’m not even going to say much about a matchup with Thor and GALACTUS, a being on the scale of the celestial. I’ll say this though in one of the comics I had back in the 80s-I believe it was the NEW MUTANTS -the celestial came to judge the earth and Thor hit him with both barrels of lighting and it didn’t phase him a bit. Didn’t make a scratch. I guess what I’m trying to say is that if your gonna pit these two beings-Herc and Thor - in a matchup definitely go for it because it’s exciting to see these two go at it. Just be a bit more mindful of their individual back stories when you do.
Danco you put Thor constantly. Put Thor vs Gold Saint Leo Aiolia.
Awesome
Hercules actually has weapons and is skilled with all weapons he just chooses to mostly to use his hands. He has Bow and arrows with Hydra blood from Apollo, mace from Hephaestus, the lion pelt which also protected him. Would be curious to see what would happen if Hercules did use his bow with arrows that were dipped in the Hydra's blood what would happen to Thor?
Thor has flow so fast that he went through time.
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TMNT vs Hellboy
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One thing that should be mentioned, Thor has said that Hercules is more skilled than him and he would not be able to beat him without his magical gear (Mjolnr, the iron bracers, the magical belt).
Are you crazy,so are we gonna ignore the power hercules also had when he fought the chaos king,even then hercules is still more powerful than thor,hercules has bested thor on more than one occasion.
Your are talking about a Powered Up Hercules. That Hercules was even more powerful than Rune King Thor. That was a temporary power up. Unfortunately Herc has no mystic powers. If he did, he wins.
Marvel should get Thor an upgrade in his next movie(if he gets another movie)
Do Kratos vs Gorr
Why is it that you picked thor in this fight but you picked chaos war Hercules over rune king thor?
How can we do this video without any feats from Hercules yet?
Thor; "So you think you can defeat me?" He sighs, "Here then. Hold my hammer." As he generously hands over the magical hammer.
Hercules; "What a good move warrior." As he accepts the hammer.
Thor; 🤭
Hercules; "By the gods, what witchcraft is this?" The confused god looks helplessly at his now immovable hand pinned to the ground by this remarkably heavy hammer, even for the Greek god of strength.
Thor; "I have waited a long time to say this, Hercules you are not worthy."
Thor vs Hercules hard to say who wins 🏆
This is one fight I am willing to watch Thor vs Hercules
Norse vs Greek
You need to upgrade your volume
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Thor is stronger than Hercules
Thor would win with a weapon.
Without one…. The story might be told differently.
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Ms. Marvel doesn't good in combat and lack of speed and reaction
Spider-Man is stronger, more agile. He also has his famous spider sense and spider web
Spider-Man wins
@@King_Douzer4 I agree Spider-Man wins. But I don’t think it’s a blowout as much. Ms marvel honestly has the potential to be more powerful than Spider-Man. Her powers will be enough to keep her in the fight for a while. Problem is she lacks a lot of feats unlike Spider-Man.
Using D&D 1st addition Dieties and Demi-Gods manual, Herc is a demi-god, not even a Lesser God, while Thor is a Major God level.
Thor Odinson
A slugfest battle but Thor gets my vote...
How about: Odin Vs Dr. Manhattan