David vs Goliath! Strymon Iridium vs NUX Amp Academy!
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- NUX pedals have made a name for themselves as being affordable alternatives, but how well does their amp pedal stack up to the Strymon Iridium? The NUX Amp Academy is a feature-packed pedal, but will it compare to the simplicity and great sound of the Strymon Iridium! | tinyurl.com/2dzbrxel
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The Iridium still holds up, after all this years, i LOVE this pedal.
But but the dream 65 is better because it's more dynamite
All about the punch amp
When you do demos of these types of products, please take the time and load the same IR'S into each. The IR makes a major difference. When you do your amp demos you run them all through the same cab. Do the same with IR's.
EXCELLENT point. IRs are arguably the single most impactful element for these kinds of things, and other modelers.
I’ve been using the NUX live pretty much since its release. It takes some tweaking and finding the ir you like, but it’s been a great unit. My main reason for using it is it’s the only pedal platform pedal that has xlr out, fx loop, and a quarter inch out which has a switch on the pedal that allows you to defeat the ir on. So I run xlr to FOH but 1/4 inch out to an orange pedal baby and open back orange 212 cab with the ir off. This gives me consistent in ear and foh tone gig to gig and the open back stage feel I like. If I feel like using a frfr powered speaker all I have to do is flip a switch. It’s small, has all the ins and outs all these type pedals should have, and easy to use. If another better amp on a box offered the I/o options the NUX has Id get it, but every other manufacturer keeps missing this crucial detail. Change the IRs and eq and it’s great. The best, no, the most useful on a pedal board, I think yes.
I’ve owned and gigged with both. Both are great. NUX is what I use now. Very good clean tones and way more features. NUX XLR out is such a great feature. As others have mentioned, you will need compression and a high cut to get the NUX to sound right. Then you’re good to go.
What's awesome is that all the problems pointed out in the Amp Academy are all surmountable with tweaking and the right IRs.
Pete thorn did a video on the NUX some time back. Imported 3rd party IR and with a bit of tweaking got great tones.
I have a Nux AA and I used it on gigs and my impressions so far.
1. I uploaded Gods cab IR's to free slots and they sound much useful
2. Mr Z, Vox, JCM800 and Ubershall amps are great.
3. You have to play with IR volume. some IRs sound too loud and make amps to overcompressed and unuseful. I usually set the bar between 0 to 10 db and chop off some bass if it is too much.
4. many amps have sweet spots between 20-50 gain. Unless you want Is this love type singing Les Paul tones and sustain.
5. I combine it with a Zoom MS-100BT multistomp in SNR and Boss OD-3 in front of it and I can play a whole gig with it.
Gracias por la información, saludos ;)
I use the NUX AA on my pedalboard running straight into the PA. I updated to the latest version as they added a few more amps. I use York Audio and OwnHammer IR’s. Software easy to dial in the sound you need.
The stock irs are way too scooped. Some decent irs do help a lot.
If i remember correctly Iridium is modeling the first input of the Deluxe Reverb, that is the one without the bright cap and thus it works better with pedals,
the popular choice in the other modellers is the second input/channel, that has a bright cap, tremolo and reverb so its much brighter, because they
want to represent this amp with the legendary sparkly Fender cleans.
Iridium was designed more as a pedal platform, so thats the choice they made.
Exactly
Although I use a Iridium but the way Pete demonstrated the Nux was really wrong because Captain is continuously tweaking the Iridium but when it comes to Nux they weren’t even touching the EQ or the features the app have provided for Low cut and high cut. Overall the Nux is winning the Amp sim race and they are providing more features in terms of amp modelling and processing.
Jeez guys! A bit of effort in tweaking the eq and level of the Amp Academy would’ve made a big difference. It’s a great unit! Not very well represented here tho’
What I found owning both a NUX mighty space and a Helix rig with an FRFR speaker, is that the NUX requires more adjustments to the IR low cut and high cut as well as slight tweaking of the EQ. Both sound excellent, the NUX just requires much more effort and a bit of knowledge on how to EQ a guitar properly to get there. The Strymon sounds better to me using those presets. But the NUX is capable of sounding just as good, it just requires more effort.
You just need to load better IRs
I’m an intermediate player and I would love to see a video on how to do these adjustments in the Mighty Space. It is so convenient by keeping it on the coffee table, ready to go. Any where I could go to get a primer?
NuX AA is not typical of plug n play, set and forget pedal, u need to do some deep tweaking to get that TONE before hand, personally i'm using this since a year ago, went gig big /small venue, and by the end of the day i always got good result,even the soundmans really loves it.
i need to sit down .spend an hours to tweak, search different 3rd party and eventually i loves the original one from the factory after i manipulated through EQ section from it.
Happily using the Iridium as a recording/practice/silent stage amp, in cases where I can’t use my 60s AC30 or my 18watt Princeton clone. It will not beat the real amps, but I made IRs of my amps cabs&speakers and with some EQ I can get the Iridium pretty close.
Thank you, guys for very interesting Review as always!
I sold my Strymon after getting the Nux. If you spend the time dialing in the Nux you can get some great tones
I would like you guys to know that I’m a guitar player and watch your channel all the time. Because of you guys, I bought a Boss product at Guitar Center in San Jose California. I’m sure I’m not the only one with the story like this but I hope all these retailers are thanking you for all the hard work you put in that they get the bank gone. If I lived near, I would definitely buy from you guys. Keep up the great work.
one thing that can change a lot the way the AA sounds is the IR and the eq, i managed to make it sound much better with other IR's and some eq.
This is GREAT CONTENT for an amp modeller pedal option. Both seem to be well worth their retail respective prices.
I've had NUX for about a year now. No problem, sounds very good. It has a very good reverb, I can upload my IR there, it has a noise gate. Effects loop and XLR output. I recommend it.
Boss ME80 still holding up for me. The clean and crunch amps on that are all I need
I agree (even owning one) that the NUX has some ways to go still for that perfect pedalboard amp tone. That said, a couple of points:
1. You can move any component of the signal chain in the app, and moving IR as the last one does clear things a lot.
2. I basically rolled mids up and bass off on all the models, the premades are bad, made at best for home play.
3. The pedal models do wonders for AA:s tone, and give a lot when you dive in.
It can sound as good as the Strymon, but it will take work, I particularly loved the roll-off tone of the Uberschell as one the best crunch tones I've ever had.
I have been using a NUX for about six months now and it is great, especially after the last update that added the AC30
Whats ac30
Very cool the NUX has fx built in. I tried hard to like the iridium but was never able to get it to sound good with pedals.
Strymon is lightyears ahead on this head to head. A bit dear for me, but if i could just have one of these or the other, it'd be the Strymon, all day. It sounds dantastic.
Spot on and you can get them 2nd hand for £200 ish. I wanted the nux to be good, but for £175 for loads of bang avg sounds. Its like the zoom units in the 90's. first boss, (who in the main are good), and now nux are bringing out multi effects amp sims. I'm not paying £175 for £30 sounds. Why not make a pedal £50-£75 that does one, maybe 2 amp sounds well.
NUX is an great option for low budget and great quality, greetings from Ecuador!
I certainly enjoy my Nux MightyPlugPro. It’s a great little headphone amp
@@Not-a-GSD that's great! The MG-30 it's an excellent option for a multieffects, as many other options like the Amp Academy mentioned in the video
You really missed out on putting the „bodybuilders“ on the thumbnail. Fantastic picture 😂.
Great fun! Try the high and low cut on the NUX. Low around 108 and high around 3700 - with the AC30.
Hope the next video is a head to head with the new boss and Line-6
If the bass is too heavy, then I would normally adjust the bass nob to correct it. Since both of them have such a nob, why haven’t you tried it out?
Jacked Danish Pete never skips neck day 🦒
With every review/comparison video like this I see, I get happier with my Simplifier mk2! Yes I’d prefer to have an amp on stage but that is not an option so my little Simplifier steps up and serves me well.
Back to back there's no competition, but the NUX is certainly usable. Really you can get good sounds out of most stuff nowadays
Im halfway thru the video but I gotta say, I think you guys are overlooking the importance of the IR's. Sure: the quality of the emulations might be different and some may be more accurate than others, but when you showed the Nux Princeton the default IR was showing a MASSIVE bump around 90-100 hz which definitely gave that 'fake' subby low-end vibe. On the strymon when you guys switched from the Fender model to the Vox you still stayed on the 'A' cab, which surely played a part on that 'forward' midrange you were talking about. Just something to consider, maybe you could scroll through the unit (as any customer would do) but then do a comparison between the units using the same Cab/IR to give a more apples to apples comparison. I think both are great units and with some tweaking the NUX offers way more versatility (I own an HX Stomp so I don't have a horse in this race :P).
I thought the same thing, the run through and comparisons in this video felt a bit rushed overall. We all know digital modellers take a bit more dialling in before any real comparisons in 'tone' can be made. Rhett Shull and Tim Pierce did a fantastic one for the UAFX dream/ruby/woodrow, it's a longer video but it shows the real potential of the pedals. On a personal level, the only thing I really care about in these demo videos is the one thing very few people actually do: test the range and dynamics of the gain knob for each amp model. Does it progress smoothly between clean, breakup, dirty? My Ampero doesn't, and it upsets me to no end. Among the cheap modellers, I find the TC Combo 65 to be by far the most pleasant to use, the gain is so smooth it really allows me to get that elusive edge of breakup and it responds beautifully to picking dynamics - but it sacrifices versatility! why can't we have both haha
I really wanted to hear the presence and treble rolled off on the NUX. It sounded overly bright, and the presence seemed to be up above 12o’clock on every sound.
I've got a NUX, it does need more tweaking to get a good amp sound. All the presets have too much treble, it's also noisier than I'd like. You can dial out the excessive low end with the High Pass filters.
exactly
Nice comparison Can you change the amount of delay (I understand it has a tap tempo for rate) but what about volume wet dry on the effects etc?
All the other amp modelers sound too thin to me including the UA ones as well. The iridium sounds more real with more low end. I like the TC Electronic Ampworx Combo Deluxe 65 Preamp Pedal as it has a gain and Mid dial. Without the mid dial that pedal would sound too thin like the others but you can dial up the mid and get it sounding more full like the iridium and its half the price if you're looking at an amp in box for a 64/65 deluxe that's more affordable plus the spring reverb on it is fantastic. In the end it's what speaker (in house or speaker cab, or in ear system) your playing it into that dictates a lot of the tone.
I don't own either of these, but the Iridium wins hands down for me out of the two. I've got a Dream '65 as my specific amp modeller, plus a Neunaber Neuron for the ultimate flexibility it offers.
To be fair to the Nu-x, it doesn’t really come with “presets”. It has amps, which if paired with the right IR and eq’ed, sounds no different to the Iridium. It comes with 10 or 12 (more or less) IR’s from Choptones. Mix and match the IR’ and most of the missing midrange is there.
I have one as a cheap backup to my main rig.
Surely you should be able to sort the NUX tone out with a purpose made IR?
I would use the low and high cuts on the nux next time.
Try the NUX with 3rd party IR’s. It’s a different pedal then!
Where do you get the irS you speak of
@@matteuklolYork audio!
mmh..just use the same IRs in both Modelers..because the IRs makes probably 50 /60 % of the sound...
Oh well. I like my nux. They should have asjusted the high and low cuts in rhe nux. Also i think having the send return on for all when not in use may be causing the noise.
I second that. S/Return switch makes a big difference in AA
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Nice Explorer Lee. Is that the 39mm or the 36?
Strymon is going to be King but I think this is more about price when you put these to together , I would definitely save up and wait a little longer for the Strymon if I was choosing between the two.
You can change the singal path blocks on the app
The NUX has a high end something that I find a little unpleasant. It seems to lack body and punch in the upper ranges that is not for me personally.
Good to hear it against the iridium and see how well the iridium holds up even after all this time.
The Amp Acadamy is still a good option for players on a budget, and I don't think you can beat it on features when you are talking about amp sim pedals.
When it comes to NuX I'm looking forward to seeing something pretty great from them when they update their MG30 multi effect unit.
I get really good sounds from my AA, but the software side is not mature yet, lots of bugs. The latest update has been a lot of trouble, I reset mine to previous versions, though I was longing for the AC-30. The Dr.Z with a good IR can get close FWIW
They released an update 4.0.2 to that update 4.0.1, probably a bug fix.
Atomic Ampli-Firebox Mark II ?? Andersons said how great it was. Does this still hold true?
Pete almost had me, those two opening chords the way he played them almost made me think of the song by Empty Promises by Michael Burk
Funny how some more affordable brands go 10x on the features but then skimp on the sound.
I would like to see someone do a review and compare the pedals to the actual amp that it is supposed to be emulating.
Fair enough for an out the box comparison. But as previous people have said, there's no real 1-1 comparison without maching IRs
I have had them both, and the NuX Amp Academy always sounded like a cable was loose. I know that the Boss IR-2 is sold out, but I would love to see how it compares to the Iridium soundwise.
Would have been nice if you had Fender Deluxe reverb along side these to hear the difference.
Can you use the Strymon Iridium with an actual amp? I’d like to have one channel going into a mixer and one going into a tube amp
I owned them both. My goal was to have a backup to my HX Stomp. The Iridium sounds better, its MIDI implementation is MUCH better, and it's direct user interface is better (since on the NU-X you can't access all of the amps from the knobs and switches). But, the NU-X does enough stuff well to be worth the price. If thats all you can spend, get it. But if you can afford it, the Iridium is better in my opinion. Note, I sold them both and use the HX Stomp (main rig) and an Ampero Mini (backup device).
Ampero mini better sounding than AA and Iridium? TIA
@@bordstumalian5174 All three of the amps in the Iridium sound great.. I liked 3 or 4 of the 12 amps in the Amp Academy. The Ampero Mini is really not comparable as it has so many amps and tons of fx. The Ampero Mini was my end choice for a backup device because it has everything I would need if my HX Stomp died, and it was cheap. It has some issues, and Hotone is not great at doing updates. But it is good enough for my backup needs.
Have the Dream 65 and the Iridium. Hard to wrong with either one.
Is it possible to only run the cabinet/ir and bypass the rest?
I believe if you move the send/return block to behind the amp in the Nux it sounds much better
Yup, that removes the digital noise too, also an idea to turn it off if it isn’t used.
The IR’s are ok, but there are better 3rth party IR’s that can be loaded.
Wait up, Chapman has a license to use the Fender Telecaster headstock? Interesting
I chose the NUX last year and I agree it doesn't sound perfect and the big let down for me is that it doesn't let you do just the amp without the cab/IR. But I got it for the features and it makes for a very fun quiet jam session using aux in and the headphone out. If you spend enough time finding your favorite cabinet types in the app and tweaking the knobs for a while, it can get some good tones
There is a switch on the back to turn off the IR if I recall correctly.
You can turn off the ir on both the di out and the 1/inch out. Switch in back for 1/4inch or software has swirches both
Thanks guys, I'll try that out. It's possible I only tried the switch using headphones and didn't hear a difference.
@@coltonmuri3672 unfortunately for headphone out you'll have to turn off the cab/ir via the software by turning off the ir for di
How is it possible people trying to sell me product are more worthwhile watching than 98% of anything out there?
Lol, as a GAS rehab I can tell you how dangerous that could be
I would like to see, opus two notes vs strymon iridium
The difference is marked - The IRIDIUM wins for me on all fronts from this A/B sesh. Thanks, chaps.
NUX really bargain in that price range and tone wise not bad tho!
also i notice NUX unit send return are unique that we need use "splitter cable" to be able use it
Yeah, every time the switch back to the Iridium was made, it showed how it sounded more pro. Better in my opinion.
Out of the box the Iridium slays but in all the forums its said the Nux takes a lot of tweaking and better IRs to sound good.
Does anyone know why does Amp Academy have that noise even on clean settings? Does it have anything to do with the power supply?
When connected to a PC there is some noise, it goes away when not connected, I also have that issue with my Helix....
Maybe it's also a good idea to try the nux with Third Party IRs. Also, what is even the point of D1g1tal J0hn if he doesn't even get to feature on a completely digital gear video?
I don't have the Iridium, but I do own the NUX. I don't own ANY of the amps in it and I'm unlikely to so what it is copying or how closely is does it is irrelevant to me. In a live setting I have never used more than one amp in a set so again, not a useful function. It does sound good as what I program it to do. I don't know if I would ever want to try adjusting it live. If the knobs aren't in sync' with the preset it could all go wrong.
All the factory presets are crazy aggressive.
I wish they had invested more time in the manual. I find myself looking a tube to figure out the basics. I wish it could run on 9V batteries. Then it could be a genuine DI box alternative for the mobile musician
I have used Nux MG30 or MG300 for a few years now. The stock IRS are not good, they are not high and low passed correctly. Which is why there is unnatural low end and that digital noise. I use free IRS and they sound exponentially better. When I compare my pedal setup to an Iridium it's not even close for the Strymon. If you want really simple and for it to sound pretty good stock, then I totally understand why you would want to Strymon.
Everyone knows Mr. Editor Man has to use AI to de-buff Lee and Pete in the videos as to appear normal sized.
Owned both as a pedalboard platform for direct to FOH. Both are very usable but the Amp Academy is what is on my board as a result. The Amp Academy breaths and responds more like an amp. The Iridium just lacks and tones are "just OK". Also note, these A/B comparisons are not worth the time unless the IR's are the same in both units. No one spends the time to do that in these youtube comparisons. The factory IR's are an OK starting point but never what you end up using in a live application.
I wish you would have given the AA it's own review, without a "Shootout" footing I think you would have had a different response.
16:10 Ah that's lovely
Does the Captain pronounce "Reverb" with the emphASis on the wrong syllABle, or is it just me hearing this?
Spent too much time with a yank or something? 🇺🇸😂 Does he say luminum for aluminium? 😢 He's an imposter! 😅
Anyone try the amp academy through an amp? Any input would be great
I use it through an amp.. but I'm not really picky. What some told me is it's basically a "signal shaper". You can get a lot of interesting sounds. Works for me.
Would love to buy a pedal from Andertons but I just can’t…After what happened with the Tumnus Germanium I won’t even attempt to do business with them. It’s sad because I love their videos about equipment…Danish Pete is the man! But yea I’ll never be spending my time or money buying from Andertons again. Def a terrible experience.
that chapman tele Pete's sig looking cool.. better looking than PRS tele imo
always hard to find a good vox ac30 clone
moorer little monster amp is good. Else for a pedal, moorer (Again...), day tripper, (find them 2nd hand if you look hard enough), is not bad £50 ish
Iridium !!
MG-30 review when?
The Nux seems to get fizzy at the slightest thing.
cheese danish!!!
Fight with boss ir-2 / ir-200.
We need David Attenborough to narrate a pedal review???
perfect summary around the twenty minute mark?
The NUX is noisy, and the noise gate sucks in it.
With the Iridium, they should do a Soldano SLO for the punch modal instead of the Marshall. Then you’d have clean, to mid gain to high gain. It would make the product so much better. Just do it Strymon.
Beefcake Captain and Danish Pete! HAHHAHAHAHAHA
Blokes, were all still here 28:45
They know exactly how many people stay til the end just by using RUclips creator. RUclips shows channel and video stats as a tool 😊
I along with a lot of other people out there have dealt with the NUX Amp Academy failing after a few months and getting no support to fix the problem. When it worked I liked it, but you’re rolling the dice and could get hung out to dry if it fails on you. Bad customer support.
Very tasty and a great price too
Can someone tell me the point of these when you have an audio interface with amplitude?
For playing live...
Iridium
I suggest you first familiarize yourself with the capabilities of nux and then evaluate it. I had Iridium and sold it, it offers too little and costs too much. Nux is the best in class.
Choptone IRs don't sound nearly as good as York IRs on my MX5- that said, they're not horrible or anything, just not quite as good as York.