LG 34GP83A-B 34 Inch Review (After 6 Months)

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  • Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
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    Today, I'm doing a review of the LG 34GP83A-B 34 Inch Review (After 6 Months). The LG 34GP83A-B 34 Inch 21: 9 UltraGear Curved QHD Ultrawide gaming monitor is one of the best gaming ultrawide's you can buy today. In this video, I do a comprehensive review of the LG 34GP83A-B 34 Inch after 6 months of using this gaming ultrawide monitor every single day. If you guys enjoyed my video, LG 34GP83A-B 34 Inch Review (After 6 Months), drop a like below. AND if you have any questions about my LG 34GP83A-B 34 Inch Review (After 6 Months), leave them in the comment section below. This was Type-C Tech Reviews, and I'll see you guys later!
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  • @xnaper
    @xnaper 3 года назад +27

    Can you use 160Hz OC and 10bit colors together? Or is it limited to 144Hz with 10bit?

    • @TypeCTechReviews
      @TypeCTechReviews  3 года назад +29

      Great question! You can only output 8 bit color when overclocked to 160Hz. 10 bit color can be enabled when it is at 144Hz.

    • @ToGrimmToWin
      @ToGrimmToWin 3 года назад +5

      10bit 144hz, 12bit 120hz max on dp 1.4 not seen a cut off for 8bit. Maybe someone else knows that.

    • @madd5
      @madd5 3 года назад +6

      @@TypeCTechReviews Just ordered this monitor. Thanks for your review!

    • @general99411
      @general99411 3 года назад

      @@TypeCTechReviews were can i find the same wallpaper you have as the thumbnail of this vid 🙏🙏

    • @michaelschwader7944
      @michaelschwader7944 2 года назад

      @@ToGrimmToWin I just purchased this monitor. Is it true 12 bit or is it 10 + bit at 120 hz?

  • @AloneMaru
    @AloneMaru 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this review! Great to see it is easily configurable!

  • @Xplozhun85
    @Xplozhun85 3 года назад +1

    Excellent review! Gonna try and snag one this summer for some great gaming!

  • @ParEdits
    @ParEdits 3 года назад

    Great review! Keep it up! This helped me out a lot.

  • @Indiana_Jonesy
    @Indiana_Jonesy 3 года назад

    Fantastic review as always, and really appreciate the links to CA Amazon for both the monitor and arm :)

  • @WaaromStijn
    @WaaromStijn 3 года назад +1

    Loved the video! Keep making them!

  • @ayewhite333
    @ayewhite333 3 года назад

    Nice review! How do you organize your cables so neatly?

  • @kylegum6445
    @kylegum6445 2 года назад +1

    This man needs more subscribers! Great reviews.

  • @rishabee
    @rishabee Год назад

    great video, exactly what i was looking for, keep it up!

  • @luffyandgokuskits
    @luffyandgokuskits 3 года назад +1

    My future dream moniter!! Keep up the epic reviews!!

  • @spiderman0227
    @spiderman0227 3 года назад +17

    I have now watched your monitors reviews for a week and this is the monitor I went with based on your reviews. It should arrive in a week. I just wanted to say, your video quality and reviews are awesome. Cant wait to see this page blow up and be one of the top tech reviews on RUclips.

    • @Chippendale
      @Chippendale 2 года назад

      How are you liking your new monitor?

    • @Dubstepconcept
      @Dubstepconcept 2 года назад

      Just curious, it looks like its been about 7 months since your purchase. You still happy with it?

    • @kubistonek
      @kubistonek Год назад

      @Justin Sobota how is this monitor?

    • @dare___6528
      @dare___6528 Год назад

      Yo how's the monitor

    • @bodakuhntv5989
      @bodakuhntv5989 Год назад +5

      Hey all. Sorry for the late reply. I LOVE this monitor and will never go back to anything smaller. Picture quality is amazing. I can’t stress how happy I’ve been with this monitor.

  • @sedricbenson
    @sedricbenson 3 года назад

    Great review. Just bought one. What backlighting do you put on you’re monitor please!?? You monitor/wall light setup is awesome

  • @caudillioski
    @caudillioski 2 года назад

    Great review and I just ordered one! Which Lightkit did you throw on yours if you recall? Thanks man and subscribed!

  • @JCastNC
    @JCastNC 3 года назад +17

    I know this is a monitor video.... but I've been looking for a desk since I just moved, so if i may ask what desk is that? Or do you have any recommendations for desks! Thanks, love the content across all channels as always!

  • @madd5
    @madd5 3 года назад

    Subscribed! Your reviews are super professional. Even though you have less than 2k subscribers :)

  • @costrix5697
    @costrix5697 3 года назад +4

    From your main channel to your second, you always pack an amazing review! Keep up the great work!

    • @TypeCTechReviews
      @TypeCTechReviews  3 года назад

      Thanks so much!

    • @madd5
      @madd5 3 года назад

      What's his main channel? Couldn't find.

    • @costrix5697
      @costrix5697 3 года назад

      @@madd5 Consumer tech review

  • @ricardobarra
    @ricardobarra 2 года назад

    Hi! Thanks fot the review. I need to ask you what about using this monitor for work / office multitasking? Is it good for that too?

  • @chettystudios
    @chettystudios 2 года назад

    super helpful thank you!

  • @sugarskulllyfe5890
    @sugarskulllyfe5890 Год назад

    great review i subbed!

  • @shironeko711
    @shironeko711 3 года назад

    new to your channel, liked and subd!
    I love your energy if you worked at a retailed you've sold me this monitor 10 times over

  • @SHODUUP
    @SHODUUP Год назад

    I’ll be picking one up. Thank you for the recommendation. Do you always play with a WIRED mouse bs wireless? If so, why? Thanks!

  • @cade8986
    @cade8986 2 года назад +5

    Pretty sure it has G-Sync now. If you go to the Amazon link, it even has it printed on the leg of the stand now. May be worth an info tag at 2:40

    • @anthonychase6906
      @anthonychase6906 2 года назад

      Does that mean all of them would have it or just new models? Not sure if it's software or hardware based

  • @Bully____Maguire
    @Bully____Maguire 2 года назад

    Great video, I just bought this monitor! Could you please tell me how to turn on the RGB on the back please? I can’t figure it out

  • @nubsandbolts920
    @nubsandbolts920 2 года назад

    I just bought the last new one on amazon(only refurb on newegg) to go along with my custom prebuilt pc. Super excited with ryzen 9 3080ti ZX Gigabyte 670 mobo. I had 10 monitors in both retailers carts, your video pushed me to get this one. $821 tax included isnt bad for todays market. Really would like to tap into at least 4k for streaming/games but mostly looking forward to the ability to work on it as I sell cars online and it willl keep me on top of it all mwhahaha! lol.

  • @ashleyjaytanna1953
    @ashleyjaytanna1953 2 года назад

    Awesome review

  • @airleclair
    @airleclair Год назад

    I'm so blown away that this channel has so few subs. BTW, I just bought this monitor with your affiliate link - you deserve the $$

  • @TheRealKingSolomon
    @TheRealKingSolomon 3 года назад +1

    I picked up this exact monitor. I must say I am impressed. This unit LG made is with quality, the amazon link was $800.00 USD free shipping.

    • @DvBattlegears
      @DvBattlegears 3 года назад

      Here 789 +tax=846 so basically 850

  • @dallasbialobrzeski6180
    @dallasbialobrzeski6180 2 месяца назад

    Seeing this video 3 years Later! Just got one dont regret!

    • @JaronPalone
      @JaronPalone 18 дней назад

      How is it a month later?

  • @mahadshahid9759
    @mahadshahid9759 2 года назад

    How would you compare this with the Huawei Mateview Gt 34? Considering the price is not the issue, which one would you go for?

  • @caseylockwood5512
    @caseylockwood5512 3 года назад

    I sat there waiting for cons, but cons never came, the monitor is pure pros lol. You sold me, ordered one!

    • @anthonychase6906
      @anthonychase6906 2 года назад +1

      Only con I heard is that he said it has 400 nits but that HDR needs at least 700. Is this true? I've never seen or used HDR in my life so I wouldn't really know. I just got one myself as well

  • @GamingandFrightened
    @GamingandFrightened 2 года назад

    Would you mind posting your video settings for gaming?

  • @Monkeyhat549
    @Monkeyhat549 3 года назад

    You should review the lg 27gn ultra gear.

  • @Vectorr66
    @Vectorr66 7 дней назад

    Thanks for the review. I currently have a 34GK950F-B that is giving me issues. Like you mentioned in this video it is hard to find a monitor that can do both gaming and photo editing (photographer) without going into OLED now and be affordable. Do you still feel this monitor is a great pick in 2024? It seems like a little cheaper option then the one I currently have.

  • @KeezusSole
    @KeezusSole 3 года назад +3

    Would you recommend this over the 32inch Odyssey G7?

  • @outside_edits7557
    @outside_edits7557 3 года назад +1

    great reviews keep it up

  • @CaptNemo_
    @CaptNemo_ 3 года назад

    How does watching movies or anime look in this monitor? Does it look stretch?

  • @SHODUUP
    @SHODUUP Год назад

    Is this monitor too large for playing fast paced fps shooters? Thanks!

  • @buddybuddy223
    @buddybuddy223 2 года назад

    Wall mount recommendations for this monitor?

  • @1e0jr
    @1e0jr 3 года назад +5

    LG has given me different vibes when it comes to screens. I have a TV and a 34" ultra wide monitor. Both have issues after warranty period. That's a nightmare because the amount of money one pay for their products is insane. And then when you have a problem with any of them you need to pay almost the exact amount to get them fixed. I gave up on LG for while in Brazil until the programmed obsolescence is over.

  • @Okir09
    @Okir09 2 года назад

    Thanks for the review! have you used this monitor with a MacBook, I've read a review on amazing, a guy had a lot of troubles with MacBook and this monitor ! please Help :) thanks again

  • @mastax1234
    @mastax1234 3 года назад +12

    for whatever reason this monitor is going for $1000 on Amazon when I only paid $799 for mine. This monitor was the best purchase I ever made, I regret absolutely nothing. mine had no backlight bleed at all, I got a perfect flawless unit. The contrast ratio is actually worlds better than my Asus VG248QG which I swore was my fave, but thats no longer the case.

    • @zombieghostninja
      @zombieghostninja 2 года назад

      Dang I guess I got lucky I got it on sale for $400

    • @lanthanumlanthanium6373
      @lanthanumlanthanium6373 2 года назад +4

      @@zombieghostninja Prove it

    • @racksontheway659
      @racksontheway659 2 года назад

      hey is it good for competitive gaming

    • @orkedits
      @orkedits Год назад

      Hey, is it still alright after a year?

    • @Excal123
      @Excal123 Год назад

      It's on sale for 600 right now gonna grab it and try and get a 4090 for it!

  • @pigsdojigz7570
    @pigsdojigz7570 3 года назад

    Can you review some 27 inch monitors please. Love the vids😃

  • @Hakeem597
    @Hakeem597 2 года назад +10

    You forgot to mention you lose the 10bit capability when you overclock to 160hz....10bit only works at 144hz....the difference between 144 and 160hz is negligible...better to keep it at 144hz

    • @anthonychase6906
      @anthonychase6906 2 года назад

      Is 10 bit color noticeable for gaming or watching video? Or just for color based detailed work?

    • @micoolio8239
      @micoolio8239 2 года назад

      @@anthonychase6906 I don’t notice anything. It might be because I’m not looking for it.

  • @ojb6161
    @ojb6161 3 года назад

    Is there a Difference in hdr 400 and 600 like can you really See the difference?

  • @JensuyaBellyDance
    @JensuyaBellyDance 2 года назад

    How do I safely clean the screen??

  • @js-kb2tp
    @js-kb2tp 3 года назад

    i’m getting this for my series x will i be able to play games at full screen with 1440 p 120hz?

  • @arksurvivalevolved9190
    @arksurvivalevolved9190 2 года назад

    Bro, I din't get you when you said something about no g-sync or something.G-sync will work smoothly like with Nvidia rtx 2080 for example? Thanx

  • @chasewalker3924
    @chasewalker3924 2 года назад +1

    Im torn between the ASUS TUF VG34VQL1B and LG34GP83A-B, still not sure which one to go with. Im just casual fps gamer looking to start streaming.

  • @d4ngus169
    @d4ngus169 3 года назад

    I love 144hz curved monitor I bought it on my birthday last year and I’m using it for mine craft rtx and I’m getting 76 FPS it’s good

  • @joanna9128
    @joanna9128 2 года назад +1

    Can you compare this to the MSI Artrmis 343CQR?

  • @danw7864
    @danw7864 2 года назад

    What’s y’all’s favorite settings on this thing? Game 1? 2? HDR effect?

  • @guillaumed4145
    @guillaumed4145 3 года назад

    Dope, good review thanks 🙏

  • @etfoltz
    @etfoltz 3 года назад

    I want this monitor so bad

  • @dannylifts
    @dannylifts 2 года назад +1

    What is that keyboard ? 😮 is it wireless ?

  • @MuhammadIssa-pb6mc
    @MuhammadIssa-pb6mc Год назад

    Do you think this is also a best ultrawide monitor for Xbox series x?

  • @kdtheporchpodcast5785
    @kdtheporchpodcast5785 3 года назад +1

    Lets GOOOOOO !!!

  • @cristophermartinez7197
    @cristophermartinez7197 2 года назад

    What kind of RGB strip did you put on it?

  • @jayroc1158
    @jayroc1158 3 года назад

    I'm fairly new to PC, but is there a minimum GPU that you should use for said monitor? Or does that simply rely on so-and-so game? Just don't wanna get too much monitor, if my GPU can't push it... If that's a thing lol I do have plans to upgrade GPU, some time😅

    • @dirtywindshield5034
      @dirtywindshield5034 2 года назад

      It depends on the game, but I would feel comfortable with a 2080ti or equivalent at minimum. Think about 1080p 60fps, that's 124.4 million pixels being drawn every second. 3440x1440p at 144fps is 713 million pixels every second. Sure you could game at a lower refresh rate but to take advantage of the display you need some serious gpu power.

  • @chrisownz1
    @chrisownz1 11 месяцев назад +1

    i found a used one locally and bought for $300. such a nice monitor!

  • @adhilnoushadnn369
    @adhilnoushadnn369 2 года назад

    Can I use this monitor for Mac mini as display ?

  • @thatswiki3728
    @thatswiki3728 3 года назад +1

    What's that keyboard are you using?

  • @alexanderscorpion4923
    @alexanderscorpion4923 2 года назад

    Can you help me ? Why it as 2 HDMI ? Does it split screen ?

  • @mm6fiend_
    @mm6fiend_ 3 года назад

    Never clicked so fast on a video

  • @aquaman5464
    @aquaman5464 2 года назад +1

    Is it almost the same as lg 34gn850?

  • @devonwilliam9869
    @devonwilliam9869 Год назад

    PLEASE HELP ..I have to pick between this monitor ...or the g9 neo mini today lol..
    What would you suggest ..
    This one for 550 used
    Or g9 neo for 1200 used
    Please make a suggestion

  • @_mylastname
    @_mylastname 2 года назад

    My Xbox one x is not recognizing this as a 4k. and i can only set it to 1080p.the monitor keeps telling me to set it to 3440
    I'm also using an hdmi to DP adapter. . so I'm confused as to why i can't get the setting correct

  • @TheMattJames
    @TheMattJames 2 года назад

    How does this work with mac m1?

  • @Nsaki1
    @Nsaki1 2 года назад

    I’m about to buy this my pc in the shop but right now I have a ps5 I guess I’m gonna be using it on it for now

  • @TheAtthen
    @TheAtthen Год назад

    How does this work with next gen consoles?

  • @MrDutch1e
    @MrDutch1e 2 года назад +1

    I have the samsung g7 right now and this monitor and I can't decide which one to keep. Love the ultrawide but the contrast on the g7 is amazing. Very hard decision tbh.

    • @nobody1194
      @nobody1194 2 года назад

      You will miss that contrast ratio 100% as well as the better HDR experience (This LG can only sustain about 400 nits for HDR). G7 is much easier to drive at 2560x1440.

    • @xiaoyu88
      @xiaoyu88 2 года назад

      @@nobody1194 okay, but what about the flickering that I read about in reddit so much while gaming and having fps at certain point? I saw videos of that making me run away from VA panels. What are you doing to overcome this?

  • @Nirvana_Replica
    @Nirvana_Replica 2 года назад

    Can you use this monitor on a PS5?

  • @kevinbreese5739
    @kevinbreese5739 2 года назад

    How is it for movies?

  • @_mylastname
    @_mylastname 2 года назад

    I wish my console pushed 144hz..but as y'all know, 120hz is best they do.I have this exact monitor and I use it for my Xbox one X and PS4 pro. I love it. But I've noticed some white blurring around some objects and tearing? I've recorded what it's doing, adjusted the brightness down a bit and it helped. Still would probably appreciate this monitor more if I gamed on PC. Unless maybe I could get the settings just right. Nice video, thanks!

    • @amidnightstroll376
      @amidnightstroll376 2 года назад +1

      I'd probably return it if you're not on pc. Far as I know G sync doesn't work w/ console and don't think they can output ultrawide for most (all) games?

    • @_mylastname
      @_mylastname 2 года назад

      @@amidnightstroll376 it's so nice tho, even at 120. Plus I got 2 of these monitors for $400 , sent them in to LG and they replaced the screens for free,.I don't think anything will work any better on consoles, until consoles get better ..

  • @marcgascoigne3896
    @marcgascoigne3896 2 года назад

    On Amazon it says it’s g sync compatible? Am I missing something

  • @JelloXmaster
    @JelloXmaster Год назад

    can someone help me with this as I purchased this monitor. I have a a predator ph315-53 laptop with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 graphics card. I hooked up with a HDMI cable, but only getting 80hz. will using the display port help me get to the 120-144 hz? If so, can I get recommendations of a display to HDMI adapter to use as my laptop does not have a display port.
    Thanks in advance!

  • @wahahah
    @wahahah 2 года назад

    How much better is an IPS panel compared to VA? Is it a lot different? This is on sale for 799 (IPS) and I bought another monitor for 479 (VA), which one would you pick? Is it worth the extra $300. Thanks to anyone who responds.

    • @amidnightstroll376
      @amidnightstroll376 2 года назад

      I hate VA because of black smearing. Originally bought one of those $480 VA ultrawides but couldn't stand it. Returned it and got one of these.. The extra cost is 100%worth it. Would rather a 27" ips than a 34" va

  • @6spdkeg
    @6spdkeg 2 года назад

    Do you think a laptop with Ryzen 9 5900 processor and GTX3070 can handle outputting to this monitor?

    • @anthonychase6906
      @anthonychase6906 2 года назад

      It depends on the game and the settings but yes for most titles. Sometimes have to turn down to 1080p maybe if you want really good FPS.

  • @LEVRAN
    @LEVRAN 2 года назад

    Isnt that basically the gn850?

  • @Eyale111
    @Eyale111 2 года назад +1

    The monitor also fit for work, reading, a lot of RUclips and TV shows?
    The curved monitor will not be annoying for the things i mention before?
    Flat monitor is more recommended to what i am looking for?

  • @Egg_Sallad
    @Egg_Sallad 5 месяцев назад

    Does this still hold up?

  • @jameltanderson
    @jameltanderson Год назад

    Can u connect hdmi 2.1?

  • @VoidlessOfSpace
    @VoidlessOfSpace 2 года назад

    is this 1440p or 1080

  • @jms-gy3cf
    @jms-gy3cf 3 года назад +1

    my dad recently bought me a 60Hz monitor. I think in the future when i hopefully get gaming pc it wont make a big different between. what do u think

    • @shutyourface
      @shutyourface Год назад

      144hz is what you want for gaming, it's night and day the difference

  • @RicoSynth
    @RicoSynth 3 года назад

    Hi! What monitor arm are you using at 5:54?

    • @TypeCTechReviews
      @TypeCTechReviews  3 года назад

      That's this monitor with a monitor arm!

    • @RicoSynth
      @RicoSynth 3 года назад

      @@TypeCTechReviews I can see that 😂

    • @itsdocena
      @itsdocena 3 года назад +1

      @@TypeCTechReviews The arm you are using in the video is not the same as the one linked for sale on Amazon listed in your description.

    • @itsdocena
      @itsdocena 3 года назад +1

      @@RicoSynth The one he is actually using in this video is listed in the description of his other video: ruclips.net/video/tCp5hZJbw8M/видео.html&ab_channel=ConsumerTechReview

    • @RicoSynth
      @RicoSynth 3 года назад

      @@itsdocena thank you! That answers my question better than “That’s this monitor with a monitor arm!” 🤣😂🤣🤣 he obviously didn’t read or understand my comment. Thank you Jeff

  • @renzoarana3018
    @renzoarana3018 2 года назад

    what keyboard is it? 3:06

  • @SashOkVR
    @SashOkVR 2 года назад

    Isn’t 3440x1440 basically 4K for ultra wide monitors? If not, what is?

    • @patricklindsay72
      @patricklindsay72 2 года назад

      There is no "4K for ultrawide monitors".
      4K is 16:9 and is 3840x2160
      Ultrawide is 21:9 and is mostly 2560x1080, 3440x1440, or 3840x1600

    • @SashOkVR
      @SashOkVR 2 года назад

      @@patricklindsay72 this was me a while ago. I know this now 😂

  • @FenrirofLupusLabs
    @FenrirofLupusLabs 3 года назад

    just bought this. upgrading from a gigabyte g34wqc

    • @matthewbolyard2751
      @matthewbolyard2751 2 года назад

      I bought the g34wqc but returned it days later and got this instead. I had an ips before the Gigabyte and couldn't stand the VA.

  • @PNWTrek
    @PNWTrek 5 месяцев назад

    I made the wrong choice, refunded a different one, and immediately seeing this on amazon i bought it in the blink of an eye! Can't wait to use this with my 4080 thats coming!!

  • @thatswiki3728
    @thatswiki3728 3 года назад +3

    VS Predator X34GS?

  • @yuju1004
    @yuju1004 2 года назад

    Does this monitor support 3440x1440 8bit @100Hz over hdmi 2.0 like some other lg models?

  • @kevincorrigan1754
    @kevincorrigan1754 2 года назад

    Vs xg349c??

  • @fernandogs8377
    @fernandogs8377 2 года назад

    To 160hz OC the panel run to 8bits😅

  • @Furin_
    @Furin_ 2 года назад

    This monitor is pretty much my dream one. I need to save my entire wage for the next two months, but i don't care

  • @mrpuddingfinger9226
    @mrpuddingfinger9226 6 месяцев назад

    Just picked one up off Amazon for $550 😎

  • @ihalloway
    @ihalloway 2 года назад

    it's 10bit (8bit +frc) who is wondering

  • @stevencharette7918
    @stevencharette7918 2 года назад

    400 nits kind of sucks but it is what it is

  • @zombieghostninja
    @zombieghostninja 2 года назад

    Got lucky and snagged this after I saw it on sale for $400 great deal

  • @ToGrimmToWin
    @ToGrimmToWin 3 года назад

    VS 34GN850-B?

    • @TypeCTechReviews
      @TypeCTechReviews  3 года назад +2

      The 34GN850-B is actually the exact same monitor as this with the only difference being the logo on the back of the monitor. It's extremely confusing but yea, same monitor.

    • @ToGrimmToWin
      @ToGrimmToWin 3 года назад

      @@TypeCTechReviews I figured really looking at the spec list. Wish it was in stock and on sale at my local microcenter lol. They want 1000 for the 34gn850-b

  • @nobody1194
    @nobody1194 2 года назад

    Contrast ratio from 800/900 :1 ....that's literally grey and no details in dark scenes at all. Ugh

  • @feeblemind
    @feeblemind 2 года назад +1

    I dont mean to burst your bubble but literally almost 0 monitors do 10bit. They are all 8bit + FRC including this one just because the nvidia control panel says 10 doesn't mean its actually 10. You can look up the spec sheet of this monitor and is cousin the 850-b and they basically use the same panel and its 8bit. Otherwise good review just stop saying its 10bit and it makes it better than other monitors lol because It actually hardly makes a difference especially on IPS that can't really display the colors properly because of their dogshit contrast. Main reason for IPS atm over everything is you get the motion clarity of a TN with actual good colors. the VA panels probably need another year before they can compete fully but once they can VA will probably be king.