What is HDR ? (with a grain of salt)

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  • High Dynamic Range explained.
    Music: posy.bandcamp....
    Or Spotify: open.spotify.c...
    Or Apple Music: / posy
    Used HDR TV: Panasonic TX-55GZW954 (2019 model). It has an OLED screen from LG but much better processing, resulting in almost no banding and no crushed blacks. OLED does not need the local dimming of LCD.

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  • @KamiShizuka
    @KamiShizuka 3 года назад +1968

    The sound effects are so perfect :D

    • @freescape08
      @freescape08 2 года назад +28

      I enjoyed them too, the pop was a familiar sound as I just finished playing through superliminal a short while ago. And that game was so much fun.

    • @Skippy7704
      @Skippy7704 2 года назад +4

      I agree. At some parts I feel like there were a bit too many though

    • @screenonset
      @screenonset 2 года назад +12

      2:31 wow

    • @CrazyDroiid46
      @CrazyDroiid46 2 года назад +2

      No they are not

    • @programaths
      @programaths 2 года назад +1

      🤦‍♂I had my headset partially plugged in and I thought it was ironic. Was going to skip the video (dislike having sound in only one ear), then I checked with another video I knew had good sound, to realize it has to be a connection/headset problem ^^
      Now, enjoying the video ^^

  • @gammaboost
    @gammaboost 2 года назад +883

    I always thought, "if you want to show HDR video on a non-hdr screen, just make everything dimmer but set the brightness to max." This video is a pretty good demonstration of that. It's a bit ironic, though, that this is an SDR video that I'm watching on my HDR-supported phone.

    • @luipaardprint
      @luipaardprint 2 года назад +53

      It's kind of weird we would need to get a 4k netflix subscription to get the most out of a phone screen.

    • @ShiroCh_ID
      @ShiroCh_ID 2 года назад +7

      lol i get you
      my phone was 4K HDR Capable screen

    • @guily6669
      @guily6669 2 года назад +12

      My phone has HDR but sadly it's fake HDR from what I understand out of it...
      1st the brand claims 900 nits peak brightness and all I get is like 400nits best,
      2nd the bit rate of the screen is low and very low processing power which has very high color banding problems,
      3rd the HDR brightness is so stupid that is seems to be just a "full" screen dimming\brightening which basically simple seems to be moving the brightness control on android up and down instead of actually be doing that realistically pixel-by-pixel on the screen like it should because increasing the general brightness simply also increases the lower nits part of the image brightening them up too which is sad...,
      4th anyway it's the first TCL smartphone (TCL 10 Pro) so yeah, I guess they "tried", even their own first OLED in the phone looks very different to any other brand, but not in a good way 😁

    • @yuxuanhuang3523
      @yuxuanhuang3523 2 года назад +1

      I tried RUclips HDR and I don't know if it's the problem with my device or the video. Everything switches to P3 colorspace and gets over saturated. Peak brightness doesn't get any improvement over SDR either, it just dimmed everything else except the subtitles, which is terrible so I turned off CC. By the way it's a Huawei flagship phone soI had to find a alternative way to use RUclips on it. But again the same problems happen on my windows computer with HDR enabled display.

    • @SherrifOfNottingham
      @SherrifOfNottingham 2 года назад +3

      @@guily6669 to me the important part of hdr is the local dimming, thus for HDR... I prefer an oled as its true local dimming.

  • @HenrikMyrhaug
    @HenrikMyrhaug 2 года назад +623

    If your TV has a 'Game mode', turning it on will usually turn off the vast majority of image processing in the TV. This both reduces latency and prevents the TV from doing image processing in an image that it expects your computer/ console has already processed.

    • @emerson-biggons7078
      @emerson-biggons7078 2 года назад +38

      My tv has an HDR Game mode and with it off and windows HDR on my screen looks washed out, turning it on with windows HDR still on it now looks properly coloured.

    • @FAB1150
      @FAB1150 2 года назад +57

      This or "filmmaker mode", many newer TVs have it now

    • @gamesnic
      @gamesnic 2 года назад +6

      Quite funny that my TV seems to then process even more because my picture will look awfully oversharpened in it

    • @lost4468yt
      @lost4468yt 2 года назад +33

      Don't do this. Those post-processing modes are there for a reason. They account for issues within the display technology itself, your TV, artifacts from compression, etc etc. The reason those modes exist is because for gaming etc it's often better to have low latency than a better image.

    • @lost4468yt
      @lost4468yt 2 года назад +10

      @@gamesnic Because TV's need to do processing on the image in order to make it accurate. See my reply above. Turning on gaming mode is terrible terrible advice for anything but gaming. These no point in reducing latency on anything else.

  • @WDC_OSA
    @WDC_OSA 3 года назад +774

    The thing that entices me about HDR, from what I understand about it, is the added color depth. At least, from what I remember reading about it like a year or two ago.
    As a digital artist, it'd be great to smudge my fake paint around and get smoother gradients between different values. And then, of course, I'd want to share my work around with that color depth for anyone with an HDR monitor to enjoy.
    Being able to shine a believable facsimile to the sun in people's faces would also be nice.

    • @genewitch
      @genewitch 3 года назад +63

      that's just leaving "Standard RGB Space" which is 8 bits per pixel. Having pixels or displays that can handle more than 8 bits allows more colors without obvious artifacting/banding. I even have a display that only technically has 7 bits per pixel, but trades the color depth for viewing angle and grey to grey speed. AFAIK 10bit is more common now than 10 years ago, which is over a BILLION COLORS!

    • @ZacDonald
      @ZacDonald 3 года назад +44

      Color banding from only have 0-255 values to work with is pretty bad. With 8 bit color there's no way you can fade between light blue to medium purple smoothly across a screen without banding, dithering, or noise.

    • @rebane2001
      @rebane2001 3 года назад +10

      @@ZacDonald True, but noise and dithering work great

    • @ZacDonald
      @ZacDonald 3 года назад +19

      @@rebane2001 but do they? They can cause an video to be less stable, cause compression artifacts.

    • @rebane2001
      @rebane2001 3 года назад +5

      @@ZacDonald Yes. In fact newer codecs like h265 and vp9 have algorithms for noise to help with situations like these.

  • @JQuattro
    @JQuattro 2 года назад +38

    I knew what HDR was but I had trouble actually explaining it to a customer yesterday and this video broke it down really well, thank you!

  • @sebbyjay
    @sebbyjay 3 года назад +24

    Congratulations, the algorithm has chosen you. Expect to see more subscribers than usual with each upload.

  • @TanoshiSan
    @TanoshiSan 2 года назад +13

    All of your videos are so well written and edited, packed full of information. No matter the topic, you never fail to get me interested in it!

  • @Nikkisuhr
    @Nikkisuhr 2 года назад +110

    i must say, this channel is a gold mine, your quality, narration, script its unmatched. you deserve way more subs than you have

    • @lost4468yt
      @lost4468yt 2 года назад +11

      This is actually a terrible video full of all sorts of misinformation. From what HDR is (e.g. there's no mention about even basic things like added bit depth...), to a total lack of understanding of how the TV actually does it, just blindly ignoring huge parts of the market like OLEDs which do not cause blooming because it's not local dimming, and the ridiculous suggestion of just turning off every setting such as denoiseing. E.g. many of those settings actually bring the image back to closer to what was originally intended, because they account for things like artifacts introduced by the compression algorithms, or the display technology, etc etc. If you want actual good information on this, then I'd strongly suggest channels line HDTVTest and sites like rtings, especially HDTVTest who is hilarious, and can tell you exactly which TV's do what well, what settings to keep on and what they do, etc.
      Really it's disappointing this video is getting any attention with such an extreme lack of understanding. Failing to mention OLEDs is just insane given how absurdly popular OLED TVs are becoming. HDR is one of the best things to happen to media in a long time, far better than just ever increasing resolution.

    • @Nikkisuhr
      @Nikkisuhr 2 года назад +2

      Maybe.. but that does not negate my previous statement. It was really fun to watch

    • @BeefyMon
      @BeefyMon 2 года назад +7

      @@lost4468yt note that the title is “… with a grain of salt”.

    • @lost4468yt
      @lost4468yt 2 года назад +7

      @@BeefyMon You don't get to just write "with a grain of salt" then spread a bunch of misinformation and expect people not to call it out?

    • @BeefyMon
      @BeefyMon 2 года назад +4

      @@lost4468yt it does ride the line between informative and goofy a bit too closely for my liking. I don’t disagree with your points. I’m simply not as bothered by it as you are.

  • @User0000000000000004
    @User0000000000000004 2 года назад +6

    The pop sound you made when the blinds were moving across the wall? Perfect. Absolute perfection. Had me holding my side from laughing so hard.

  • @DEATH-flare
    @DEATH-flare 2 года назад +3

    My name isn't "Dynamic Range" but hello to you too!

  • @tyjuarez
    @tyjuarez 2 года назад +112

    the most important part of hdr is the increased bit depth from 8 bits per channel to 10 bits. now instead of R, G, and B values being defined on a scale from 0-255, it's from 0-1023. In addition, HDR uses a PQ curve instead of a gamma curve, which means more detail and less banding in darker areas.

    • @muhamadardiyansah446
      @muhamadardiyansah446 2 года назад +4

      You mean 0-255 or 0-1023 right?. And yes PQ curve gives more information to the dark areas because as you said less banding and more detail to those areas, not only that, but also human eye is more sensitive to dark areas. That's why deep black screen is the required spec to show HDR content 😉

    • @tyjuarez
      @tyjuarez 2 года назад +5

      @@muhamadardiyansah446 ok, technically actual useable color info is from 64-960 for 10-bit and 17-235 for 8-bit

    • @joesterling4299
      @joesterling4299 2 года назад +5

      Higher color depth, such as 10 bits per primary, has been around since way before the "HDR" moniker took hold of TV marketing. Brighter displays with deeper blacks and better color gradients. We all want that. The industry has been working toward that for a long time.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 2 года назад +14

      The second most important thing about HDR is the ability to generate revenue from proprietary extensions, like Dolby Vision.

    • @SwampKryakwa
      @SwampKryakwa 2 года назад +5

      Color depth is not part of HDR. HDR is, as it was said, about brighter screen. Color depth just usually comes along with it

  • @jonbikaku6133
    @jonbikaku6133 2 года назад +35

    I dunno how i stumbled here today but your production quality is out of the world. Im not sure ifim more mind blown by the editing, content, or the technical knowledge you have.

    • @Kenny5867
      @Kenny5867 2 года назад

      I came from the segmented display video. Been binge watching ever since

    • @jonbikaku6133
      @jonbikaku6133 2 года назад

      @@Kenny5867 haha yess same here! I was BLOWN away with the production and content knowledge on that video!!

  • @JustAPersonWhoComments
    @JustAPersonWhoComments 2 года назад +5

    In photography and videography, multi-exposure HDR capture is a technique allowing to capture high dynamic range images by taking and then combining several different exposures of the same subject matter. Images captured by cameras allow differentiation only within a certain range of luminosity.

  • @artdonovandesign
    @artdonovandesign 2 года назад +2

    My favorite new channel! Interesting. Funny. And refreshingly free of the 2020's, RUclips styles and typical narrations. Great work!

  • @ParsjanSM
    @ParsjanSM 2 года назад +1

    im in love with your channel like for real it all started with your video about your alfa. it was the first video that i saw but then i just fell in love. really one of the most sympathic youtuber ever.
    greetings from germany

    • @PosyMusic
      @PosyMusic  2 года назад +1

      Thank you! :)

    • @ParsjanSM
      @ParsjanSM 2 года назад

      @@PosyMusic oh I have to thank for the awesome videos :) can't wait for a new one

  • @pete3897
    @pete3897 2 года назад +2

    I'm a technical kind of guy, and I really do enjoy the technical content in your videos... BUT, if I'm honest, I think I'm coming back more for the humour now! Love it, good work :)

  • @xymaryai8283
    @xymaryai8283 2 года назад +192

    hdr standards aren't really special, but they give permission to (mostly amateur) creators to embrace it, use the extended brightness range, have more detail in the lows. honestly the brightness scaling is still wack in most content, its worth pursuing in moderation.
    10-bit colour is more important. 8-bit colour depth in HDR content looks very silly, very exaggerated colour banding in digitally created scenes with no dithering. in that case, it is literally no different to SDR except the distance between light and dark

    • @HAWXLEADER
      @HAWXLEADER 2 года назад +21

      8bit is not HDR by definition.
      What you call HDR in 8bit is simply crushing the blacks and cranking up the contrast.
      AKA joining the hype BANDwagon.

    • @joesterling4299
      @joesterling4299 2 года назад +6

      Yes. Brighter displays. Deeper blacks. More bits per color primary. This is what matters. "HDR" is just some marketing label, since any display that can ace all the vital parameters is going to look "HDR" when displaying high-quality content. It's a continuous gradient of improvement in the tech, and "HDR/SDR" makes it seem like there's a wall between two very different things. Not so.

    • @guily6669
      @guily6669 2 года назад

      That's literally my crap 2021 phone from TCL, there's as much color banding as my Samsung non HDR TV 2015 model FFS 😵

    • @quazar912
      @quazar912 2 года назад

      10 bit? OK I`ll wait for 16 bit colours.

    • @User0000000000000004
      @User0000000000000004 Год назад

      oh, SHUT UP!!

  • @daneleventsixti
    @daneleventsixti 2 года назад +1

    I love your video, despite it's always under 10 minutes yet not just entertaining, educative in a way but it feels unrealistically longer than the time showed on the video.

  • @asterix19991
    @asterix19991 2 года назад +18

    The quality of production in this videos is astonishing, its amazing to find this kind of channel with such dedication, humor and attention to details. Great work and im hoping that the algorithm helps you!

  • @samjesberg
    @samjesberg 3 года назад +22

    You have a hidden gem channel, I know about you from the cursors video. It's a shame that doesn't have more views, it's been my go to cursor set since I watched that video, what an amazing job you did on them. Cheers!

  • @MikeOrkid
    @MikeOrkid 2 года назад +1

    Your production, videography and narration are top notch. Really look forward to your videos.

  • @chosenmango
    @chosenmango 3 года назад +4

    This channel is a hidden gem.

  • @NautilusGuitars
    @NautilusGuitars 2 года назад +1

    First time seeing any of your videos and I had to write a comment saying that I love your presentation and editing style. Great stuff!

  • @Hollang
    @Hollang 3 года назад +8

    I love your videos, I've watched them in succession a few times as well as delved into your music which is fantastic!
    Can't wait for the next one

  • @Rudxain
    @Rudxain 2 года назад +9

    2:43 Warning, the following text is a rant I contained for months:
    Speaking of useless TV settings, my home has an old Sony Bravia. I'll list the most annoying settings:
    1. Clear White: Enabling this changes the *color temperature* of colors near the white grayscale to be more neutral and less *yellow.* That's right, the TV *CONSTRAINS* only the white colors to have a redish tone *BY DEFAULT.*
    2. Advanced Contrast Amplification: I can't even begin to describe my hatred for this infamous setting. It messes up the color scale, adds banding artifacts, and dynamically changes how an image is displayed in real-time. It also comes with a "deep black" feature that just turns off the backlight when MANY SECONDS of pure blackness have passed. This is an energy-saving feature! it should be independent from image post-processing and be located in the "Eco" category of settings!
    If it REALLY amplified contrast, the TV should react instantly to a black frame being displayed. And I'm not exaggerating, the TV has a "LED Movement Mode" which flickers the backlight at 60Hz to achieve fluid animation like PWM screens. It would be as easy to include a dedicated hardware chip to check if every pixel in a frame is black while the screen is doing a progressive (linear) scan, that doesn't consume much memory, nor energy.
    3. Live Color: this *doesn't oversaturate colors,* it just unlocks the full saturation range (just like Clear White unlocks grayscale). The colors only get oversaturated when you set it to max value, mid and low are fine.
    4. Gamma: I actually like having control over this setting, but the fact that it has a range of integers from -3 to +3 while barely changing the grayscale is so dumb.
    There are even more settings I hate but this comment is too long and I forgot about them lol

    • @janisir4529
      @janisir4529 2 года назад +1

      People really hate motion interpolation.
      Depending on the scene, it can look really good or really bad, but if this is how we can fix the shitty 24fps lagfest that are movies...
      Although people really hate native high fps content in general too...

    • @Rudxain
      @Rudxain 2 года назад

      @@janisir4529 I agree. But PWM, Black Frame Insertion, and Backlight Flicker, don't interpolate anything, it just gives the _illusion_ of fluid motion. Depending on the Pulse Width and frequency, the flicker can be noticed by some people, which can cause the image to be annoying, so some people prefer the traditional Sample-&-Hold continuous method.
      I myself can't notice the flicker in the display I mentioned, probably because the frequency is high enough or the pulse width is long. Or maybe my eyes and brain have slower-than-average response times lol

    • @janisir4529
      @janisir4529 2 года назад +1

      @@Rudxain I have no idea what you are talking about, there are TVs that actually insert interpolated frames, to artificially increase the frame rate, since the creators just didn't bother to not make a power point presentation.

    • @Rudxain
      @Rudxain 2 года назад

      @@janisir4529 that's also true, some of those TVs use AI to anticipate with higher quality. Older TVs would probably do basic color interpolation or use some other algorithm that I'm not aware of.
      I just wanted to clarify that the old Bravia TV I was talking about doesn't insert frames

  • @rizzo-films
    @rizzo-films 2 года назад +26

    I can't tell if this is trolling the HDR conversation or if it's serious, because I definitely laughed a few times 😂😂. The interesting thing about the video is it's not very technical but the way you describe HDR, how it works on different TV's, especially the ones that can't reach industry standard levels (almost every consumer TV) is super accurate! What you say about how SDR screens show HDR content is also how most consumer HDR panels do it. And that's great because my 1800 nit TV would look completely blown out trying to show Dolby Vision content at 4000 nits.

  • @pe5erbarnes
    @pe5erbarnes 3 года назад +34

    Brilliant video as always!

    • @technicolourmyles
      @technicolourmyles 2 года назад +1

      I can't believe no one has commented on this pun. You're a bright one!

    • @pe5erbarnes
      @pe5erbarnes 2 года назад +1

      @@technicolourmyles would I make myself look stupid if I said that this wasn't intentional?

    • @lost4468yt
      @lost4468yt 2 года назад +5

      This is actually a terrible video full of all sorts of misinformation. From what HDR is (e.g. there's no mention about even basic things like added bit depth...), to a total lack of understanding of how the TV actually does it, just blindly ignoring huge parts of the market like OLEDs which do not cause blooming because it's not local dimming, and the ridiculous suggestion of just turning off every setting such as denoiseing. E.g. many of those settings actually bring the image back to closer to what was originally intended, because they account for things like artifacts introduced by the compression algorithms, or the display technology, etc etc. If you want actual good information on this, then I'd strongly suggest channels line HDTVTest and sites like rtings, especially HDTVTest who is hilarious, and can tell you exactly which TV's do what well, what settings to keep on and what they do, etc.
      Really it's disappointing this video is getting any attention with such an extreme lack of understanding. Failing to mention OLEDs is just insane given how absurdly popular OLED TVs are becoming. HDR is one of the best things to happen to media in a long time, far better than just ever increasing resolution.

    • @technicolourmyles
      @technicolourmyles 2 года назад +1

      @@pe5erbarnes you know, I had a feeling, but I still think you should take credit for it!

  • @nullcircuit
    @nullcircuit 2 года назад +14

    You're quickly becoming one of my favorite RUclipsrs as of yet. I've only seen a handful so far, my first being the mouse cursor video. I really appreciate how much effort you put into your editing and visual effects. It's all very crisp and clean and keeps me glued to the screen. Really love what you're doing and can't wait to see more.

    • @prateekpanwar646
      @prateekpanwar646 2 года назад

      Same, I've even setted it my default cursor.

  • @alejandroalzatesanchez
    @alejandroalzatesanchez 2 года назад +4

    0:50 Fun fact: because i repaired the monitor of my pc with an random adapted-ish non complatible motherboard in this moment i realized that 1% brightness got converted to 100% and around 40% gets totally dim shut off the light(pisses off the backlit circuitry) thanks posy LOL

  • @ZerityWolf
    @ZerityWolf Год назад

    This style is so unique. The sound affects, that edit at the end of that film I can't remember the name of lol, I love this.

  • @sgtsquank
    @sgtsquank 2 года назад

    The sound effects are *chefs kiss*

  • @MMT--Games
    @MMT--Games 2 года назад +1

    This isss greatt production and explaining dudeee wayy underrated with 50k subsss

  • @Ramog1000
    @Ramog1000 2 года назад +11

    you say that HDR still has the problem of backlight bleeding, but that doesn't count for OLED screens since they don't have a backlight. So you could say that true HDR works good but it only works with expensive OLED screens (and maybe some other technologies I am not aware of).

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo 2 года назад +2

      oled ain't even that expensive anymore.

    • @SherrifOfNottingham
      @SherrifOfNottingham 2 года назад

      The backlight dimming is what you're referring to, to me its the most important part about hdr.

    • @User0000000000000004
      @User0000000000000004 Год назад

      why does everyone think they need to voice their opinion about things they had NO CLUE about? Almost everyone here things that LED TVs actually use LEDs for the image on screen. They don't even know it's been LCD the whole time. Morons, all of them, all of you.

  • @minecrafter7850
    @minecrafter7850 6 месяцев назад

    This is why this guy is my favorite RUclipsr

  • @Kerwi403
    @Kerwi403 3 года назад +1

    Amazing visuals and music choice as usual ! Thank you for making these.

  • @drockomoush
    @drockomoush 2 года назад

    I didn’t think I’d enjoy this as much as I did, I love the editing style

  • @entropymusicoriginals
    @entropymusicoriginals Год назад

    the outro of sub icon clinched eyes coz you turned on room light . briliant

  • @saadsajidul9001
    @saadsajidul9001 2 года назад

    The sound effects are extremely good and goes with every scene

  • @Howie47
    @Howie47 2 года назад +2

    That is a misleading definition. Because when it says "just a brighter screen" it shows the white lettering being made brighter. HDR allows pure bright light (not just white) to shine or beam through blocked, masked lighter areas. Areas that still are lit with enough brightness to see detail. The end result of HDR is almost a 3D effect. A necessity of HDR screens is a very high "nit" (amount of bright light available). And much better masking to block that light.

  • @nedrail1435
    @nedrail1435 3 года назад +6

    You have turned it into something beautiful again. :-)
    Fortunately I still have an old TV (2008) that doesn't have all that nonsense.
    Full HD and 100 frames per second is sufficient for me.
    That does not mean that your videos will remain fun to watch.
    Keep it up and stay healthy!

    • @PosyMusic
      @PosyMusic  3 года назад

      Thank you (ofwel dank u)

    • @nedrail1435
      @nedrail1435 3 года назад

      @@PosyMusic your welcome (ofwel graag gedaan)

    • @lost4468yt
      @lost4468yt 2 года назад +2

      All that nonsense? HDR is one of the best things to happen to media in a long time. I'm sorry that this video has completely mislead you with all of it's misinformation. This video is terrible because it completely ignores basic things about HDR content like the added bit depth, completely ignores entire display technologies like OLED that make up huge sections of the market and don't have bloom problems. It also conveniently ignores that while most HDR displays cannot reach brightnesses used in mastering, they still reach much much higher brightnesses than normal SDR displays, and the remaining missing brightness actually doesn't lead to a loss in bright colours, the TV just redistributes across the spectrum (and also the distance in brightness between them is relatively small in perception due to how humans see brightness).
      Also telling people to just disable everything is also incredibly ignorant. Many of those settings actually bring the image back to how the original master was. They're there to handle artifacts introduced by the display technology, even your specific panel, and artifacts introduced by digital compression which occurs after the master. Disabling many of them will get you further away from the original image. If you want accurate information on which ones help (e.g. he switched off a noise filter which generally account for compression artifacts) then I'd strongly suggest a channel like HDTVTest, or a site like Rtings.
      And all of this also ignores things like Dolby Vision.
      Again HDR is one of the best things to happen in a long time. It's far better than just repeatedly pushing the resolution up again and again.... I'm not suggesting you get a new TV, just that the jump between a 2008 HD TV and a modern 4K HDR OLED is insane, and most of that jump is by HDR. This video really is just very very poorly researched misinformation.
      Also 100 frames per second? Do you really have a HD TV from 2008 that does 100hz input?

    • @valterbranisarajevo8731
      @valterbranisarajevo8731 2 года назад

      @@lost4468yt ne seri

    • @lost4468yt
      @lost4468yt 2 года назад +1

      @@valterbranisarajevo8731 I don't know what that means. But from Google it sounds like you're saying I'm wrong? What part of what I said do you think is wrong?

  • @artisticVandal-J
    @artisticVandal-J 3 года назад +9

    HDR on OLED is pretty good

    • @PosyMusic
      @PosyMusic  3 года назад +1

      Agreed. The washed out black on LG's (haven't seen all of them) is kind of a bummer though.

  • @Sudobeast
    @Sudobeast 2 года назад

    the sound effects make everything so better lmao

  • @Allangulon
    @Allangulon 2 года назад +8

    Having recently purchased a QLED HDR Dolby vision tv I have come to care more about deeper colours and improved shading than peak luminance. The deeper blacks are nice too!

    • @ShadowLady1
      @ShadowLady1 2 года назад

      QLED or OLED?

    • @Allangulon
      @Allangulon 2 года назад

      @@ShadowLady1
      QLED, as mentioned!

    • @wendysburgers4326
      @wendysburgers4326 2 года назад

      Don't watch in dim or pitch black room, definitely High Brightness Graded HDR will damage your eyes

  • @QueenStewds
    @QueenStewds 2 года назад +10

    HDR isn't just brightness. It's also color range.

  • @mariokotlar303
    @mariokotlar303 2 года назад +39

    Multimedia engineer and HDR professional here. Too many oversimplifications in this video unfortunately, to the point of being a bit misinformative. HDR is way more than just brightness. SDR is defined by what was possible with CRT TV tech, and has stuck around for far far too long. Most consumer SDR monitors are not even close to accurate and look much more beautiful than they should by sacrificing accuracy and taking advantage of post-CRT tech to essentially convert SDR halfway to HDR. But manufacturers really had no other choice in this if they wanted to make and sell the most beautiful looking screens, not until the HDR that is, which is primarily and essentially a new way of writing down what values pixels are meant to be, as it takes into consideration the much wider range of both brightness, colors, contrast, and their precision. The old way of writing down brightness simply goes from 0 to 100%, where 0 is actually defined as a shade of dark grey, while HDR supports defining that something should be true black, or how bright exactly it should be in actual physical units of brightness. And the situation with manufacturers making HDR TVs look different from how they should look is usually an unfortunate consequence of those TVs not being able to reproduce all they ideally should be able to, and so they use software to cheat and try to make up for that. And largely it's marketing that's taking advantage of customers that lack any education in this area. It's unfair to frame that as a problem with HDR, as it's a problem with TVs in general that applies equally to both HDR and SDR. If anything HDR should have an advantage here as there at least exists a sensible specified standard of how these screens should look like, while for SDR the standard is so terribly outdated that manufactures simply have no choice but artificially improve the image with software by default if they want to stay competitive.

    • @TanteEmmaaa
      @TanteEmmaaa 2 года назад +10

      It is true that displays today are capable of more than SDR content with SRGB color range. But here starts the problem. The full capability of the hardware today differs from model to model, from manufacturer to manufacturer, and from display technology to display technology. This is what this video is addressing. From my experience, most displays just switch on full brightness in HDR mode, and that results in a low contrast grey mess instead of good blacks, and SDR as the preferable viewing mode. Also, getting flashbanged with 1000 nits in a dark room is not everyones peace of cake. It's the visual equivalent of the overdone audio volume differences in some movies.

    • @RetroFan
      @RetroFan 2 года назад

      CRT tech is still great and supreme.

  • @chrisburn7178
    @chrisburn7178 2 года назад

    The pop sound effects are absolutely hilarious, especially the ones that sound like deflating pool rings.

  • @User0000000000000004
    @User0000000000000004 2 года назад +2

    I honestly thought I was the ONLY person on earth who turned off all those "features" on new TVs. Wow.

    • @ShadowLady1
      @ShadowLady1 2 года назад

      you have to have a good tv to take advantage of those

    • @User0000000000000004
      @User0000000000000004 Год назад

      @@ShadowLady1 Can you please delete your reply? Thanks.

    • @ShadowLady1
      @ShadowLady1 Год назад

      @@User0000000000000004 Why

  • @microdesigns2000
    @microdesigns2000 2 года назад +13

    On an industrial vision system, we used HDR mode and played around with aperture and camera gain in order to find specific features in the image. It work fantastically well. Our robotic application will now be far easier than the previous system that did not have HDR. So then, it is useful for something. I also played around with HDR on my Sony RX10M4. Like what was mentioned in this video, it just doesn't seem too useful.

  • @Linnjazzy-93
    @Linnjazzy-93 2 года назад

    One of the best explanation vidéo so far on the internet

  • @progamer00006
    @progamer00006 2 года назад

    came for the grain of salt,
    didn't get disappointed

  • @imark7777777
    @imark7777777 2 года назад

    I am so glad that we are now getting filmmaker mode.

  • @CGFUN829
    @CGFUN829 2 года назад

    finally a straights to the point explanation of HDR wit no Linus Segway bullshit.

  • @NiMareQ
    @NiMareQ 2 года назад

    I am glad I finally heard that from an expert 2:44 : Disable all bloat "improvements" on TVs.

  • @bbredewold
    @bbredewold 2 года назад +2

    Another great video :) I like your style!

  • @KingLich451
    @KingLich451 2 года назад +1

    Love your sense of humour

  • @ziomalZparafii
    @ziomalZparafii 2 года назад

    Those "pop" sounds lift the video to a level over 9000. Great!

  • @busti4552
    @busti4552 3 года назад +6

    But what about 10 bit color / luminance resolution?

    • @genewitch
      @genewitch 3 года назад +1

      I think the important bit is that "HDR" is accomplished on consumer LCD screens with localized backlight dimming. that being the case, are all the old plasma TVs technically "HDR" since they're not backlit? What about OLED? Plasma TVs, iirc, have the highest contrast ratio of pretty much any display, as an "off" pixel emits no light at all. I've used projection screens for about 20 years now, and the only solution to getting a higher contrast ratio is making the lights brighter and sinking the unwanted light better and better over the years. But you still don't have a "black" surface you're projecting on, so you either lose contrast or lose color definition, depending on which part you care about more. Behr makes "Silver screen" paint, you can get it in matte or varying levels of glossy as normal, and a lot of people feel it's the best compromise between color loss and loss of "true black" or contrast. I tend to agree with that, too.

    • @arthuralk
      @arthuralk 2 года назад

      HDR is a compression, take a 16bit color, pass in a filter to convert in 8bit or 10bit and send to TV. In the TV a reverse filter convert the 8bit/10bit color back to 16bit and display it.

  • @Keji839
    @Keji839 2 года назад

    He didn’t even ask me to subscribe. But I did. Offering solid content.

  • @ClemoVernandez
    @ClemoVernandez 2 года назад

    Channel is severely underrated

  • @JRTIntervencion
    @JRTIntervencion 2 года назад +2

    1:00
    Yes Sir, I'll do that right now Sir

  • @ToCarlosWebos
    @ToCarlosWebos 2 года назад

    The SFX of the transitions got me subscribing lmao

  • @kankan7837
    @kankan7837 2 года назад +1

    The grain of salt helped me understand so well !!

  • @stumbling
    @stumbling 2 года назад +1

    As a representative of the Society for Boring People Who Go Around Telling Other People Not To Shine Lasers in Peoples' Eyes, I just wanted to say "nice video".

  • @sa3270
    @sa3270 2 года назад +1

    I guess I didn't get the memo when the term "contrast" was replaced with the term "dynamic range".

  • @LeonZaneFigueira
    @LeonZaneFigueira 2 года назад

    as a colour grader myself, I loved this video

  • @Gameplayer55055
    @Gameplayer55055 7 месяцев назад +1

    HDR actually gives you more bits, and more color shades. It's not only about the brightness, although MacBook Pro display is blindingly bright when watching hdr vids

  • @orlovmails
    @orlovmails 2 года назад

    great video about how TV manufacturers make a mistake.

  • @TylerGarner0
    @TylerGarner0 2 года назад

    Dude, I've been using your cursor sets for YEARS, they are the only set that look decent when using a hiDPI display and scaling! I had no idea you had a youtube channel. Videos are top-tier, just like the cursors. Always appreciate a quick fart joke squeezed in (out?) now and again.

  • @mycelium1456
    @mycelium1456 2 года назад

    I love hdr adds so much color and vibrance to games

  • @Ju1712
    @Ju1712 2 года назад +1

    I like your sense of humor :)

  • @antonelrotaru20
    @antonelrotaru20 Год назад +1

    You are such a funny guy. 😁Your videos are so funny and easy to follow yet technically well done. I liked this video, but I regret that it ended rather quickly. By the way, I never knew it was possible to achieve HDR video by boosting up the brightness. A big like and greetings from Romania.

  • @ProximoK
    @ProximoK 2 года назад

    I really enjoyed that shot of the blinds.

  • @benreavesmusic
    @benreavesmusic 2 года назад +4

    The problem with this is, as you'll see if you watch backgrounds and color transitions closely in the demo section, SDR content doesn't have the color depth/resolution to avoid fairly egregious color banding in gradients/when color mixing. In this case it has far less to do with compression than it does with the display channel depth. SDR in video conforms to 8-bit channels, and without the ability to dither from higher-depth information, compressing HDR dynamic range in a linear fashion (what Posy did here) to fit in an SDR space just reduces the ability to store fine color information. So while the brighter areas look nicer, most of the video now takes place in dark spaces with a great deal less resolution, and suffer as a result. That is why HDR gets so hyped... the greater resolution. But... if not for the paradigm of shifting highlights *updward,* we'd have the issue where "full white" remained the same brightness, and most of the additional resolution wouldn't get used in a meaningful fashion. To be able to set "full white" in things like settings/computer interfaces to a brightness that is bearable to use, you have to define it as some value below the highest-possible output, which some games designed for CRTs actually tended to do. Else, everyone will just turn their TV or display brightness down until all the "HDR" content looks too dark, and the whole concept of HDR gets negated.

    • @doge-of-venice
      @doge-of-venice 2 года назад

      Is the "full white" thing too obtuse to understand for the average person (what I assume I am), or is it not phrased in a way that's not easily understandable if you're not familiar with the subject?

    • @joesterling4299
      @joesterling4299 2 года назад +3

      10-bit color was around long before the "HDR" moniker came around. It may be incorporated into it, but a display doesn't need to be labeled "HDR" to have 10-bit color, high brightness and very deep blacks. (Many of them existed before the "HDR" label too.)

  • @davecool42
    @davecool42 2 года назад

    I finally understand HDR! Thank you.

  • @ajaymanoj3527
    @ajaymanoj3527 2 года назад

    This is the most oddly satisfying and informative video I have ever seen. 😂😌

  • @Frostygaming7852
    @Frostygaming7852 2 года назад

    Loved the explanation style
    The sound effects are dope 😂😂😂😂

  • @Sebastian_Athea
    @Sebastian_Athea Год назад

    In essence hdr is just that but there's a lot more to it, color space is a lot wider making it possible to display saturation levels that don't fit in sdr signal. the signal is encoded in completely different way too, sdr signal need to be gamma corrected and the way gamma curves and maximum display brightness are configured can make image look completely different from BT709 standard which is gamma of 2.2 at maximum white luminescence of 100nits; hdr signal directly incorporates absolute per pixel brightness level making it easier to get accurate image, and easier to calibrate the display.

  • @TheMuslimMan437
    @TheMuslimMan437 2 года назад

    I love the sound effects.

  • @Gh0stShell
    @Gh0stShell 2 года назад

    My girlfriend said, you sound like an IKEA Advertisement. I think, your videos are pretty nice. :)

    • @PosyMusic
      @PosyMusic  2 года назад +1

      An Ikea adv.. 🙄 Ehh thanks, I think.. ;-)

  • @bloodydoll5897
    @bloodydoll5897 2 года назад

    the wind turbine clip is really really good i love it

  • @chamakaze4013
    @chamakaze4013 2 года назад +2

    I have a C1 Oled for the Xbox Series S it outputs 4KHDR 120fps. I noticed it wasn't in HD right away. 1:45 I also have a 8KQled Samsung for the PS5 and I can also say the brightness is no joke. Same thing with the heat!!!!

  • @FrankCosbyNo-Relation
    @FrankCosbyNo-Relation 2 года назад +2

    I noticed my TV looks way better when I set It to "on".
    I found this setting on even the oldest TVs, I strongly recommend it to everyone. Your welcome
    📺 🖥

    • @abhirams.g1919
      @abhirams.g1919 2 года назад

      is that meant to be funny?

    • @FrankCosbyNo-Relation
      @FrankCosbyNo-Relation 2 года назад

      @@abhirams.g1919 No, it's meant to be cathartic.

    • @abhirams.g1919
      @abhirams.g1919 2 года назад

      @@FrankCosbyNo-Relation Can you elaborate on it?

    • @FrankCosbyNo-Relation
      @FrankCosbyNo-Relation 2 года назад

      @@abhirams.g1919 Well my second comment definitely wasn't sarcasm, I can tell you that much.

  • @jacks3940
    @jacks3940 Месяц назад

    The interesting thing about HDR is that, when you think about it, it doesn't really exist. It's just like you said, HDR is essentially a brighter image with exposure adjustments.
    What is this in reference to? Older televisions. We can try to define it with things like "1000 nits" or "10 bit color depth", but these are just improvements to older technology. Nothing new is actually being used in HDR.
    You can take footage from literally anywhere, increase the brightness, adjust the exposure, and play it on a HDR compatible screen.
    I think HDR is better defined as the concept of a wider dynamic range in BOTH capture AND playback. Though this will always be in reference to older technology, as we can just create even brighter screens and better cameras.

  • @kamadha2440
    @kamadha2440 2 года назад

    Hello
    I just found your channel
    Thanks for made my day

  • @flyingsierra180
    @flyingsierra180 2 года назад

    I love the content brother ! The lil movie skit at the end 😂

  • @autodidact7127
    @autodidact7127 2 года назад

    I literally love your channel

  • @mshrg
    @mshrg 2 года назад

    That laser moment caught me off guard 😂

  • @doyouwantsli9680
    @doyouwantsli9680 2 года назад

    HDR on displays just means less banding. Bright screens and high dynamic range in the actual video is both possible with "SDR" video files and displays.
    This was sent from a HDR 1000 certified display.

  • @sampletext69420
    @sampletext69420 2 года назад +1

    As a HDR user, i can confirm this video doesn't have any HDR in the video resolution

    • @thedopplereffect00
      @thedopplereffect00 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, the whole video is really stupid. Anyone who has an HDR OLED can immediately tell the difference.

  • @EspHack
    @EspHack 2 года назад +9

    how to HDR: get OLED
    also, HDR is like adding a subwoofer and tweeter, you no longer just listen, now you also feel it

    • @nixel1324
      @nixel1324 2 года назад +4

      If your monitor is bright enough for you to feel it, it's probably just overheating.

  • @skaterdude14b
    @skaterdude14b 6 месяцев назад

    Phenomenally simple explanation :D

  • @datashat
    @datashat 2 года назад +9

    Yes! The amount of garbage post-processing on modern TVs is a crime - turn all that shit off!
    I've even seen some (heard) that add a short room reverb to everything.
    Why would you ever want that? And why in the fuck is it on by default? Absolute madness.

    • @BigOlSmellyFlashlight
      @BigOlSmellyFlashlight 2 года назад

      for when youre watching extremely compressed videos or you have an old vcr hooked up? you can disable it, why is it THAT much of a problem to _you?_

    • @User0000000000000004
      @User0000000000000004 Год назад

      finally! someone gets it!

    • @datashat
      @datashat Год назад

      @@BigOlSmellyFlashlight because it's difficult enough mastering audio and colour grading video content to strike some acceptable balance across every type of TV, computer and phone in the world as it is, devices that *actively* fuck things up make the process impossible. It would be like having a dinner plate that makes any food you put on it taste faintly of BANANAS.

  • @swetdep
    @swetdep 2 года назад

    i was about to comment that there was no grain of salt, thank you!

  • @ljiljankocurcic8893
    @ljiljankocurcic8893 2 года назад

    Amazing presentation! This is next gen of youtube :D

  • @NFSHeld
    @NFSHeld 2 года назад

    Posy: Pause this video, and set the illumination, the backlight, to maximum.
    Me, who actually coded a custom Stylish style to reduce video brightness by 30%, and who uses Windows' Night Mode on 80% 24/7: 👁👄👁

  • @throwaway-lo4zw
    @throwaway-lo4zw 8 месяцев назад

    wow amazing sound fx

  • @monsterovich
    @monsterovich 2 года назад +12

    "On HDR monitors black remains black that results in a larger range between light and dark and a deeper colors".
    VA monitors: *Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power.*

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 2 года назад +9

      CRT has entered the chat.

    • @emerson-biggons7078
      @emerson-biggons7078 2 года назад

      OLED/CRT: Look what they need to do to mimic a FRACTION of our power

    • @gamesnic
      @gamesnic 2 года назад +1

      microLED has entered the conversation

    • @lost4468yt
      @lost4468yt 2 года назад +2

      Huh? VA are the complete opposite...

    • @emerson-biggons7078
      @emerson-biggons7078 2 года назад +1

      @@lost4468yt not only is my personal experience contradictory to your statement, but one of the biggest feature points of VA is the contrast ratio aka what HDR does anyway.

  • @a17waysJackinn
    @a17waysJackinn 2 года назад +1

    3:54 I like this part while I usibg my regular s21 full screen and just slide the brightness bar hell to right on my 1300nits OLED display til red orange and get the warning message then slide to the right again.

  • @Scrogan
    @Scrogan 2 года назад +1

    Flashbang at the end there

  • @QualityDoggo
    @QualityDoggo 2 года назад +4

    This effect is super noticeable with video on new iPhones with OLED. The highlights of HDR videos will be brighter than the user interface!
    The ability to capture HDR is the truly impressive feat imho; keeping the highlights from blowing out without losing all shadow details is not easy.

    • @OLBastholm
      @OLBastholm 2 года назад +2

      Or on old (or new) Android phones with OLED displays.

    • @TheAngryIntellect-
      @TheAngryIntellect- 2 года назад

      New iPhone with OLED...... ahaha hahahahahahahahaha, some Android phones have been using OLED since 2012.. I had a windows phone when that was still a thing... You silly apple fanboy, OLED hasn't been new since about 2003, I had a Kodak Digital camera with the first OLED screen on it........ About 20 years ago maybe more.