Mouse Cursor History (and why I made my own)
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- Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2018
- History of the computer mouse cursor, or pointer.
And why I designed my own cursor...
Link to downloads (free) (made in 2018): www.michieldb.nl/other/cursors/
Music: posy.bandcamp.com/
Spotify: open.spotify.com/artist/3zkrm...
Apple Music: / posy
Tracklist of this video:
1 posy.bandcamp.com/track/keep-...
2 posy.bandcamp.com/track/sorry
3 posy.bandcamp.com/track/trans...
4 posy.bandcamp.com/track/let-m...
5 posy.bandcamp.com/track/instr...
6 posy.bandcamp.com/track/uuu
Useful links:
Mother of all demos: www.dougengelbart.org/content/...
History of GUI: arstechnica.com/features/2005...
Check the CSS cursors: css-tricks.com/almanac/proper... 
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This was my ‘fine, I’ll watch it’ to the RUclips algorithm, and I absolutely do not regret it
Yeah same haha. It was actually a very entertaining watch so I’m happy I did succumb to clicking
@@romanskss2 fucking same tbh
Edit: It seems like it got deleted. It was like if someone threw their keyboard in a blender
Omg me too 🤣
Yes
Got me too
“This was possible in XP but was somehow only now done”
That was the internal motto when I worked at Microsoft
Longhorn moment
How do you know
"New Windows 11 now has rounded corners on windows!"
"This was possible in Windows XP, but somehow only now done (since then)."
@@MemeMorto he motherfucking worked there!
@@nixel1324 if they change side of quit, maximise and minimise the windows then... I really believe this company was founded just to control the society xD
I've been using your cursor for pretty much 4 years now and I have to say it fits so perfectly sometimes I forget its custom. Thank you 🙏
it really feels good enough to be default. Especially the loading hourglass, it fits perfectly into Windows 11
i have been using it for 2 now and i came here to write a comment just like this one
hey do you know how to get a png file for these cursors?
Ah, so this is where this theme came from. I actually have it set on Linux (it became popular on the KDE store very quickly). I had no idea it came from a RUclips video, of all places. Incredible job! You actually took time to study past cursors before making your own, and the quality really shows in the final product. I respect that quite a lot!
Bruh no way. How long has it been there? Don’t use KDE but I commented on here that it should be the DE’s default 4 months ago.
That's one of the basis of design: search and study what's been done before so you can then make your own :P
Any idea what it's called on KDE? I'll look for myself when I can but I won't be at my computer for a bit
@@rvmiv_ Posy's Cursor I believe
@@patchiezero ???
I love how they only apologetically called it a mouse. It's quite beautiful how animal metaphors force their way into our language
It made sense at the time and still do so here we are :D
Because hamster 🐹 only has tiny tail
@JM Coulon cats like me eat rats 🤗
@JM Coulon why not? Rats are cute
@JM Coulon they don't need *that* much space do they? Well our opinion might not be "mainstream" but it sure is superior, rat gang!
I think the angled arrow makes sense as it's less likely to line up with lines on the screen, improving visibility
I think it also makes it harder to pinpoint exactly where you'll click at. Visually, I think it looks better, though.
That plus, movement is easier to see. I think thats why they chose the tilted arrow.
Diagonal: movement, like someone tilted before running
Vertical: Stationnary, like a building
Horizontal: Calm, like the horizon of an empty sea
@Gernot Schrader Vertical has the advantage to make it easier to aim in between text to select it.
Maybe it mimics the visual you get when you point your finger. When you point at something in front of you, your finger doesn't line up vertically, it stays at an angle in your perspective.
@@Project229 But for doing that, the application should have selected the I-beam cursor. If the arrow cursor is still there when selecting text - that's a bug.
ah the era of everything being beveled, rounded, with a gradient and a shadow
also I love these tiny details actually being cared about. graphic design can get super deep and nitpicky it's fun
This video just showed up randomly on my feed, and after seeing it I have instantly installed your custom cursor. I've been using it for over 9 months now and it has greatly enhanced my Windows experience. The rainbow hourglass is a piece of art and so much better than the blue spinning circle! The window arrows and the cursor itself are so clear and it makes everything easier; even the text select line is helpful for hundreds of pages I have written in this past period. It was absolutely a life changing decision to shift to your custom cursor!
My thoughts exactly 💯
Might be worth mentioning the fact that Apple started making their cursor change scale as you use it, specifically it gets bigger when you shake it around quickly. This makes it easier to identify where the cursor is in case you forget where you left it.
Something I miss in Windows, despite using Windows more
@@tech6hutch I haven't used Windows in a while; do they still have that accessibility option where whenever you press -Alt- Control, an animated circle appears around your cursor for easy identification?
@@thomaskaldahl196 I believe they do, but I completely forgot about it
@@thomaskaldahl196 It's when you press ctrl.
@@thomaskaldahl196 ctrl*
The tilted arrow makes perfect sense to me - most interface elements and characters are vertical-horizontal in nature, so having the pointer at an angle makes it stand out more. I've lost the "I beam" text cursor so many times in word processors over the years, when the tilted arrow would be readily obvious.
They should change the I beam to a slanted design.. like italic font
I always felt that was more related to how thin that cursor is.
I don't lose it because I change my cursor color
My I beam pulses blue so I don't lose it. Very useful!
make sure how you want to make you
The angle of the tilt is something I noticed being super important whenever a game had a default cursor that was even slightly off
It was always so difficult to get used to, especially when at this point your spatial awareness ability of even using the cursor is so deeply ingrained from years of using one, that you definitely have to be new to computing to get used to any other way of drawing your eye and spatial intent to that point
The straight upwards pointing arrow is always the worst for me, but being even slightly off on the standard angle weirds me out
While watching this video I kept glancing over at my curser where I left it sitting just to the right of the video. You basically had me thinking about something that I normally take for granted, and it was fascinating to hear about how something so small and common evolved over time (and how it could still change!).
I love the fact that the original apple cursor is EXACTLY the same as the current one, just a bit more pixel-y.
Yeah. Making it black was also quite clever, since every modern program and website interface has a white background by default. So the black cursor improved visibility on an otherwise white background. Same reason why Xerox made it white on an otherwise black background. Microsoft just copied Xerox without putting any thought into it :D
@@moritzh5795 now days most applications have black backgrounds, so it came full circle.
@@viniciusfornagieropereira9717 Yeah maybe back when dark mode wasn't as common I would consider a black cursor, but nowadays I would never.
@@Greenleaf_ I still prefer black cursor on my mac because white outline looks cool. That being said windows black cursor is awful
Not only more pixel-y but also more pixel-x!
_I'll let myself out_
How in the world do you have only 4.38k subs and only a 100k views on this video? the narrative, the pace, the witty jokes here and there. This was one of the most engaging videos I've EVER watched. And I'm so sad to see this has gone unnoticed
Edit: Update? whatever: Just came back here after watching his newest video. It hit 1m! Guess we got the sail to finally catch some wind. Man this makes me so happy! Let’s gooooo!!!
Just discovered this guy, his channel is insanely underrated. Every time I watch one of his videos I think "hmm, yeah I bet this video has millions of views" then I look at the view count and it's so insanely low for the quality!
Last night I found this and he had 7k subscribers.
Now, less than 24 hours later, he has 12k.
Thanks algorithm...
@@Mr.Meme01 same
@@phs125 seems like his channel is getting pushed now! really good that it is getting attention though since these videos are so damn good
it's all done by evil and satanic youtube algorithm.
14:44 This shot of Doug Engelbart "looking" at a modern mouse cursor is surprisingly beautiful
ikr
the most viewed shape is definitely the circle
I like your cursor designs.
I didn't think I would, but I especially like the rainbow hourglass. Somehow modern and fresh despite it being an hourglass.
My only, and very minor criticism would be the text selector. It needs to be a pixel skinnier, maybe. If I'm not paying attention, it can obscure things like periods or commas. It is, however, nice and visible, so I'm not lost on that one.
Great job! It's my new default.
yeah i agree
Yeah
they look like something from windows 11
Full stops?
@@SproutyPottedPlant there are different names for periods or full stops it’s a linguistic thing they both are the same
Been using your cursor ever since I saw this video, and I never want to go back. A wonderful design that actually upgrades the OS experience.
hi
@@qbcd bye
This video randomly reappeared in my recommendations, and I came to say the same. I've had his icon pack installed since the video came out in 2018. I love them!
how do you get it?
@@bumblebee7508 Link's in the video description.
This was an absolutely beautiful video. Music, voiceover, editing, information; everything is quality. Can't believe I'm finding it 4 years later. Well done, man.
Making the mother of all demos here, Jack! Can't fret over every OS!
I set my mouse to the waiting option constantly a few years ago, it confuses the heck out of everyone and I love it, yes I have it on constantly
you genuinely scare me
Good
That's something only a supervillain could come up with!
You're a gangster!
It could also convince your boss of your productivity
That rainbow hourglass is a masterpiece!
Dude, I'm so glad that you are sharing your stuff so we can use it.
I made my own cursors too, but it was totally for personalizing and uniqueness sake, I didnt know cursors had this much history. Thank you, you've inspired me.
What program did you use? I’ve had so much trouble finding a decent software
@@24shineon I haven't tried it for cursors, but aseprite is excellent for pixel art. It would probably work
@@24shineon i wish i remembered what program i used to edit some cursors. but yea it was a pixel editor basicaly i think i found it on google or duckduckgo "how to edit .cur files"
So did I.. Lmao this video kills me.. this guy pretends like nobody ever made their own cursors and made them available as a download to everyone. Quite a lot of people did and they did better than this guy.. also that rainbow hourglass is dumb
And what's the RW cursor link?
You can't talk about interfaces without mentioning how backwards MS has always been in that regard, it is truly unbelievable.
What do you mean by that? Can you give us examples?
@@Ricardordz11 @Ricardordz11 The dodgy versions of famous fonts? The mix and match feel of the icons? Win 8 and its UI identity crisis? The UI/UX of every version of Office, which somehow manages NOT to improve on its predecessor? How hard it is for new users to get used to Windows' concepts? How hard it is to find the right Settings menu for your needs and the fact (as mentioned in the video) that there always seem to be at least a couple of them that do the same thing but differently? The list goes on and on. Surely their products have some strengths, but they seem cursed to never get the UI/UX right
true
@@aeon_zero if this was fixed in windows 11, it would easily be one of the best versions of windows in my opinion. i'm always getting lost in the UI
@@aeon_zero your comment made me realise how crap windows UIs are.
I like how you drew the wrong finger at 11:15 xD
No he was inspired by gta v
They used an angled arrow because it's less calculations to get the top left coordinates of the cursor sprite than it would be to get the top center coordinates
That would be remarkable! ;)
Also, an angled cursor hides less of the thing you're pointing at.
Very good point especially since position 0,0 will always be the same no matter what. It's not just about calculations, messing around in game engines it always made sense to make the "origin" of sprites the middle, but 0,0 was always more practical in real life.
a pixel corner would also be pointier than a pixel side.
Hard to believe, it would be a simple addition. It's probably simply more precise, easier to know where you click.
Not something I expected to actually notice or care about, but these cursor designs are legit. They're thoughtful and an improvement. Great video to recap the process. Glad you did that!
Been using your cursor set for a while now, and at this point I couldn't imagine using anything else. Thank you so much for making these!
You know what? This video contains exactly what I was looking for even if I wasn't expecting it. One week ago I searched the Internet for how to make a custom mouse cursor but didn't find any good material. This was exactly I was searching and thank you for making my day!
I've been using a custom cursor since 2015. Deviant art users have made some really good mouse cursors packs. BlueGuy makes the best ones in my opinion.
Also, a more direct way to get to the mouse cursor window is to hit win+r and type in "control mouse" (without quotes).
Yep. I've been using a "chroma" cursor which I "upscaled" to be smoother, but also symmetrical. I'm never going back to a regular cursor again.
when i was on Windows i used a PlayStation-themed crosshair cursor
i also have a playstation shirt lmao
I really like the Chrome OS cursors. They're my favourite, even surpassing the macOS cursors IMO, and I've dailied macOS since 2011.
Oxygen cursors are my absolute favorite, they are soft looking while still having the general shape of default and they have tons of colors too
An even more direct way is to enter "main.cpl".
I love the cursors you designed! And your other videos are also very interesting!
I've been using this cursor for two or 3 years now and I'm not sure what I would do without it. I absolutely love it!! Amazing work!
"Apple improved it, and made it affordable"
Yeah that's not something you'd hear now a day.
Hentai
@@officeroof7339 yes.
Yeah, Apple will NEVER EVER make anything affordable. It will just steal money.
@@suctac lol u peanut head Apple Macs are faster and better then the windows computers and the m1 chip is so fast lol u are boomer 😂
@@iicarplaying1930 oh hello, apple makes its m1 macbook in something like 300 bucks and sells them for 1500 bucks
I remember the Amiga computers from the 80's & 90's as having a cursor editor built in. It gave you a box of a certain size that you could draw in whatever you like, was fun to create a variety of different ones, paper planes, dog bones, piston/con-rod, whatever, imagination was the limit. Also Amigas had the best ever waiting icon, it was 2 different sized meshed gears in rotation, was the coolest !, never seen it since, but then the Amiga was the coolest computer ever, you would spend way more time creating things, than messing with the O/S like you have to now.
Ah, that does sound like a good waiting icon
I remember the Amiga wait icon being a thought balloon going ZZZ. Also interesting to note the default Amiga cursor was at a 45 degree angle.
I also had a program where I could add a "trailing" effect of adjustable length, that one was great for just "fun" cursors 🥰
Thanks, Posy! Recently discovered your channel but love it! Both my parents are in graphic design so this all feels very close and comforting to me, you're so elegant in how you describe these simple things that make such a huge impact in everyone's lives. I have downloaded your cursors and are happily using them!
I have been using the black cursor pack for some weeks now and I really enjoy it! It brings me so much joy to watch the rainbow hourglass, especially when I need to wait anyways. Thanks for making these available to us!
I am _still_ upset that you barely have any views/subscribers for something this well presented. I love this!
Wow I didn't expect to find you here of all places, love your videos!~
@@coreblaster6809 It's great content! I gravitate towards entertaining stuff like this!
Ok wow, not only did I not expect iteachvader in the comments, there's also some replies made 2 or 3 hours ago?
The algorithm is doing wonders to Posi's channel! I found him because the number display video got reccomended to me
Now he has 15K subscribers and 140K views on this video :)
The Ace Attorney man is here?!
I would love to use these cursors if 2 things were changed:
-Make the text selector maybe a pixel skinnier
-Make the rainbow hourglass flow downward instead of upward, so it's a little more like sand falling.
Thank you for listening to what I had to say!
You can change the text selector to the default one in the settings
@@Dr_Dan_ Sure but then it won't match the rest of them
@@lucasskotiniotis1360nope, it matches alright
Yes, I've also reverted the text selector back to default. It looks absolutely fine, and I've never had any problems with it.
100% agree with the hourglass thing, the colors should definitely flow downwards
I've been using the black variant of your cursors for a few months now. I absolutely prefer it over the defaults and it's one of the first things I change on a fresh installation. Thanks for making these, and well done.
Hell yeah, been using this cursor for a while and is fantastic! Not only posy make fantastic videos, but also tools
Honestly, I've never thought of the mouse cursor as an arrow, but rather its own shape. My mind was blown when I realized that it was just an arrow the whole time.
How did I not think of that??
It looks kinda like a tree
Honestly same, I can’t look at it the same now lmao
its very stylised now, barely an arrow
For me i see it as a spermatozoa
@@dodge6545 What is wrong with you lol
Great video. Funny seeing someone else navigate the shit show they call settings.
This video was so pleasing to watch...
watch your language
AFTER WINDOWS 7, 8, 10.. THERE IS STILL CONTROL PANEL -AND- SETTINGS... AND FOR SOME, BOTH OF THEM HAVE SAME SETTINGS, FOR SOME, ONY ONE OF THEM HAVE THE SETTINGS, AND FOR SOME THE SETTINGS SPLIT BETWEEN THE TWO... AND THE WEIRD PARD IS I CANNOT CONNECT TO SOME OF MY BLUETOOTH DEVICES VIA SETTINGS, BUT I CAN CONNECT VIA CONTROL PANEL... WORST PART OF WINDOWS 10 IS THE SETTINGS DESIGN AND OVER ALL DESIGN INCONSTINCY
200th like is mine yay
I was using a MacOS inspired cursor these days, but now that i saw what you did with the default windows cursor, i absolutely love it. Nice work
13:22 Black-white gradient in the painting cross cursor is ingenious! 👏
1:30 I know why, it's to keep the point of the arrow at (0,0), also known as the "origin point" of the "object" in programming terms. It makes programming for and using the mouse, infinitely more intuitive. Amusingly, it'd take Microsoft and Unix years to catch onto WHY both Xerox and the MOAD used the arrow style cursor object, with Microsoft sticking to line cursors or 2x2 pixel dots until Windows 1.0, neither of which was exactly intuitive for the end user.
That would make a lot of sense. Do you have a source for this or is it speculation?
@@ninevolt its the best answer we’ll get
Yeah that's certainly how I feel about it. It seems natural to want the tip to point to 0,0. Going deeper, it probably points to the top left corner because English reads from left to right, top to bottom, which is likely why screen co-ordinates are arranged as they are to begin with. You can speculate about why it's better to have a perfect vertical line on the left edge of the arrow head and diagonal on the right, rather than a perfect horizontal on the right edge and diagonal on the left. But it's probably something to do with English type again; vertical-oriented cursor feels better than horizontal.
@@AnthonyFlack So, if Arabic speakers had invented the GUI, would the mouse cursor be mirrored compared to what we use now?
@@Roxor128 - I think it's possible yeah! The computer revolution began in English-speaking countries and I think that has influenced standards in all kinds of ways.
Personally after seeing the breeze cursors used on most linux distros I've never used any other on any OS. They are simply the best.
They're amazing, but the Layan cursors are amazing as well.
Some of the Nordzy sharp looking cursors look amazing to me, I just love the sort of visual symmetry that it provides
i really like the breeze ones but for me i just stick to dmz
How do you use it on other operating systems?
@@gormauslander if you download the icons you could follow the steps he showed to use any cursor set in Windows, I think atleast I never really messed around with cursors till I didn't like the default xorg ones I saw when I installed arch. Macos I have no idea
That brings back memories :)
Some 30 years ago, in OS/2 it was easy to make your own mouse cursor. It was all built-in - just copy the default cursor set and edit it like you'd edit icons.
Back then I made a few mouse cursors based on flowers, with the petals changing colours based on the cursor state. Good times. :)
Freaking fantastic work! The vide was seriously well-made, as is the cursor pack! Thank you very much for making all this! It was a pleasure to see :)
I remember getting cursors and viruses off of one of those free sites. Opened my eyes to the tiny little designs that are all around us.
Personally I really appreciate the Yaru cursor set that ships with Ubuntu. It looks so nice and sharp, is black, and has no janky edges.
I second that on the Yaru cursor!
oh my god, same when I was like 10. I downloaded a bunch of cursors off of an advert and got a computer virus that turned off all images...
Ubuntu is so cool, I wish it was easier to get regular people into Linux
I like the qogir cursor the most
@@space0015 Oh right the arrowhead cursors. Yes, those are pretty innovative while still bei g stylish and recognisable.
2:15 Shrek
Frankenstein
Been using your cursors for around 2yrs now and they're still so damn good to this day
i discovered your videos today and i'm in love, great content
One thing I would have loved to seen covered in this video were the huge, wacky assortment of alternate cursor designs featured in the Windows 98 Desktop Themes. It's a shame they aren't included in modern incarnations of Windows. :(
So true!
I only remember the goofy dinosaurs.
you can choose a color now at least
i miss my obnoxious trailing tails that trail after the cursor moving
my parents always got mad at me but i always changed the cursor to a horse
So after using this for a couple of days, here's my general experience with it: overall, I love it. I agree with one complaint I read below, as well as an additional complaint I have: the beam is a bit too large which obscures text when selecting it. My additional complaint is the move tool, similar to the beam, obscures too much. I often have to move small points in my software, and the software uses the move cursor to indicate the point can be moved. Once I hover my mouse over the point, the large move circle completely obstructs the point I am trying to move.
On the bottom of the page you find an alternative beam and precise tool that perhaps you could use instead
@@PosyMusic 🖱️
This simply is still one of, if not the best video I saw this year. The audio is superb, and of course I had to switch over to using your cursors.
This video was such a delight to watch, keep up the good work!
4:35 "The cursor improved" I imagined a well placed fart sound effect right there
There're a lot of interesting designs in games. Always loved what did Interplay in Fallout. Of course, making one for casual use requires much more consideration!
Like the Nesticle bloody hand. Or was that Genecyst. Genecyst had the bleeding menubar though.
I loved the Skyrim one, used it for a good while actually
I adored the FO1 & 2 cursors. 3D FO just doesn't hit the same smh
@@Aeduo Nesticle, April 1997. Carmageddon of June 1997 had an animated bloody hand cursor.
Warcraft 3 had an unique cursor for each race. Really cool.
Stumbled upon this video a while ago and installed the cursors for myself, mainly because I LOVE your hourglass. This will, from now on, be my cursor on everything!
Thank you for creating it
Thank you for the best cursor ever. I've been using it since this video came out and I still love it!
What an interesting history lesson, about such an underappreciated part of ui design ☺️
Ps: loved your hourglass design, but it drives me crazy that the lines apear to move upwards rather than downwards, as sand in an hourglass would do... 😖
Thought the same.
Yup, a surprise collaboration between a hourglass, a vintage barber sign and a rainbow 😅 Quite attractive anyway!
Yeah same! From top-left to bottom-right feels the most natural (like from the mouse and then away.)
Has he changed it yet? don't think he will get back to it after such time... but tbh it only requires "rotating by 180 degrees" and then it will be fine 😝
I would also like to know if this has ever been made. Is it perhaps easy for someone to reverse the animation and or rotate it as you said and offer it somewhere else?
@@millanferende6723 For what you're describing, it would have to be mirrored vertically, not rotated. Equally simple, of course.
This channel is so underrated! I really hope you get the recognition you deserve.
This is one of the best videos I’ve watched in a long time. Thank you! :)
Just had this video pop up on my feed again. Been using these cursors for a few years now and I love them so much
2:16 we gonna just ignore the green guy?
I was searching for this comment. He is a Dracula
@@animeshagarwal28 me too, but he's green goblin
@@animeshagarwal28 nah, I do believe he's one of Shrek's kids
he's green!
@@fantyx4449 He is a Frankstein. Let's call him Frank 🧟😊
Thanks for the video and the cursors. The one cursor I miss, from the pre-MacOS 10 days, is the little watch/clock cursor on Mac OS, which actually had enough frames to animate the hour and minute hands.
That and the ability to change every cursor, and even change and add icons elsewhere, and even edit bitmap fonts, through the Resource Editor (ResEdit). Exploring an operating system like that is much harder, if not impossible, these days.
Its Not Worked
I know I'm late, but just in case you didn't know, there's an app called Mousecape that lets you change every mac cursor
I always come back to this video to re-download this amazing cursor! Thank you!
I have used these cursers you made for a few years and I still love to use them
Your cursors are amazing - I've struggled for a long time to find simple yet modern cursors which aren't too distracting but still look good. You nailed it. I'm going to be using these cursors for a long time, thank you very much!
Also, awesome video - very much enjoyed.
With the tilt angle of the arrow, it ensures that the "tip" is always at the same point (0,0) on the pointer icon. Scaling the icon doesn't effect the position of the tip. (Unfortunately, I don't know if this was the original reasoning behind it or not)
Also makes it much easier to line things up. The same reason why Microsoft went with the white cursor and the black outline. You see it a bit in the video, but when you move over a white surface, the outline seems to disappear, which makes it very difficult to click (and especially select) pixel perfectly (of course you rarely need to do that, but it still reduces accuracy a bit).
That might have been the technical reason at some point, though I doubt scaling was of great concern in the pre-mobile age.
Any way, at least starting at some later point, you can define the "tip" point of the cursor in Windows. Which is not at (0,0) for the move icon or the hand for example.
Just installed your cursors. Love them, and loved the video.
Beautiful work and well researched 🌟
I would find it interesting to hear about all the other cursors through history, including Gnome/KDE, X window system, etc.
Ahh, the absolute Cambrian Explosion of KDE cursors. That takes me back.
Agreed, add Amiga workbench to the list! I also created my own cursor on that platform. I also liked the gold and silver shaded cursors in the windows plus package, I think it was included as standard in later windows versions.
I would presume that the GNOME/ X11 cursor is an evolution of a design from NeXT Step or BeOS due to both having been UNIX operating systems from around the same time that the GNOME Foundation started for GTK development but I don't know anything about the KDE cursor design though but it is certainly unique among system default cursor designs but judging from old screenshots, it looks like KDE 1.0 used a different design to the current one along with KDE (couldn't find screenshots with the mouse cursor for KDE 2.0 and 3.0 and KDE 4 uses the same cursor design in the Oxygen theme as the current cursor in the Breeze theme I think...)
@@wclifton968gameplaystutorials I doubt that since X11 dates from June 1984, while "The first full release, NeXTSTEP 1.0, shipped on September 18, 1989." BeOS is even more unlikely since it dates from October 1995.
@@cebruthius Yes your right, I must have gotten the dates wrong and misremembered and thought that X11 came out after NextStep/OpenStep and BeOS...
I love that modern cursors are flat on their left side. It allows them to hug the left side of the screen. And the very tip just touches the top, keeping the cursor within view as it slides across the top of the screen. Although the cursor does become hidden as it slides across the bottom and left sides of the screen... Meh, the only way to get around that would be to have a cursor that flips horizontally and vertically, depending on what quadrant of the screen it is in. THAT would be interesting.
I swear I’ve seen one do that, probably an option you could activate in windows 7. That was so long ago however that I don’t remember
Sometimes the cursor shows up in places it shouldn't, like on top of a movie, and the only way to hide it is to put it on the right side. A cursor you couldn't do that with would be a problem.
@@doltBmB Oh, yeah, that is such an underrated feature!
Would be great if it had a sphere in the center where it would be a dot or circle pointer, and on the edge had a tail that always pointed center
I've been getting back into windows (after using Linux basically exclusives since early 2020) for PS3 software development, and you custom cursor pack has actually made it a whole lot more pleasant to use - especially the improved text cursor, and the splash of color with the hourglass!
Thank you very much!
An enjoyable history lesson! And I'm also glad to see someone else bothered by the little tail and how wonky the mouse shape is... I spent too long looking at it too closely one day and it's been bothering me ever since. Just giving your pointers a spin and they're very nicely done. The little rounded tip on the tail is just right!
I think Reddit just made me watch the born of another amazing documentary channel on RUclips.
Literally, at the time of me watching the video he had
did you mean to say, "Birth" instead of "Born"?
Possible, I was tired when I wrote it
6 months later, 0 videos added.. 😂 I'm working on it though...
well, that didn't happen
Some of the best 15 minutes I've ever spent! Niche, personal and just the right ammount of nerdy. You can also +1 to usercount of these cursor sets you've created! Love the design language!
i absolutelly love these cursor thank you so much for making them
still using your cursor after seeing this video a long while ago, seriously it is awesome; thank you!
Fun tip: These cursors DO still work in Windows 11, and you can use the cursor Size option to scale them (uglier, but does work).
Set the scale first, then apply the scheme in the old control panel. 👍
thanks! i was looking for this comment
thanx! i was looking for this comment
This is honestly one of the most interesting, well made, and relaxing videos I’ve ever seen. This is the first video I’ve seen from this channel and I’m a huge fan. This entire channel is filled with interesting videos like this.
I’m taking a break from studying for finals and I really appreciate your work Mr. Posy. I hope you have a nice day.
Unbelievably well done. Never thought I'd be so captivated in a video about a cursor! I'm currently using it on Ubuntu Linux, and I couldn't be happier with it. Great work!
I've been using this cursor since the day this video came out. Incredible job Posy.
Having used a lot of these operating systems, I have had noticed these things before but never pondered upon it. I let it go. This is an amazing video!
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haha funy ting
if you couldn’t find it, he drew a middle finger on the crossed out one.
I'm using the Mono Black set for 2 days now and I'm loving it. Gonna dialy driver this thing now. It's awesome!
Thanks for the cursor set. And thanks for such a high quality production video. This is the video that introduce your channel to me!
dude, you're talented as hell, you make great music, can't wait to see and hear more from you.
Man this deserves more views! the information and the way you present, the mouse cursor you made and your voice are all great
Thank you! I've downloaded your mouse cursor and now I can see it easily in my 4K monitor..
This brought on sudden memories and the specific feeling I felt using a computer for the 1st time, watching the cursor moving around and changing depending on what it hovered over. Totally forgot about it until just now. Cool memory.
that's such a cool memory. it's the little things about life, sometimes lol
@@AlexisTwoLastNames it really is. I’m getting more of those sudden forgotten memories that pop up for random reasons as I get older.
god, am i happy that i found this absolute gem of a channel.
it's been a while since i've come across such a high polished documentary type videos.
I've been using your mouse cursor system for yearssss... S tier video.
lol who else keeps looking at their own mouse during the video?
me
me to
Me because I changed my mouse cursor while watching the video.
Nope
ME lol
I much like the mouse cursors on Linux, I use Adwaita cursor. It's default look is a black mouse cursor set, easy to see on light and dark backgrounds, the arrow head is slightly bigger with shorter tail, although would probably look better without the arrow tail.
I'm guessing you're talking about GNOME's cursor on Ubuntu :) Linux doesn't have a cursor.
@@Merthalophor yes we all know what they are actually talking about its just easier to say
@@amongsussyballs well if you're so in love with detail that you mention the name of the cursor you use you'd expect them to know at least what Linux is.
I use KDE and it's (usually) default cursors are so... futuristic! I love these designs.
@@setukas fair point i see your angle, you convinced me. Gnome is an unnecessary detail.
Really nice video explaining the design details and design flaws of the default cursors over the years. I also use your cursor design on my computer and I really like it!
I saw this video and i absoloutly love your content and your channel
I just installed your cursors, and i've fallen in love with the black set. It's very, very nice :)
First time i've installed custom cursors in a solid 20 years. Last time I used custom cursors was with some that I designed myself.
I actually think that the macOS cursor is drawn as a vector in realtime in the newer versions of the OS, as by moving the mouse cursor back and forth it'll increase the size of the cursor but without blowing up pixels and retaining the same design.
You can also change the color of the cursor on macOS (however you want) in its accessibility menus.
The sound design is just so awesome
This video made me feel really nostalgic. Thanks for giving me unknown perspectives.