Sebastian Rogers & Madeline Soto Update | Closing Arguments with Vinnie Politan
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- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2024
- Did conflict in the home lead to the disappearance of #SebastianRogers and #MadelineSoto? Court TV tracks the search for Sebastian Rogers and the actions of his parents. Plus, 911 calls are released in the Madeline Soto case.
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Can you show what the video would show in daylight?
What about the interview of dad crying about Sebastians rape and molestatiom when Sebastian was only 8? That seems important to me.
I say SHAME ON VINNY for broadcasting the sleeping situations and details about the interior of the house. What on earth is he thinking? The house may be on Real Estate websites, but telling the world where the family members SLEEP is wrong, and dangerous. Clearly, Vinny has never spent time with modern-day home invaders. They love this stuff.
In my opinion mom and stepdad seem to be hiding some stuff. They allegedly never went out to search for this little boy and in my opinion when you don’t go looking for something that supposedly means so much to you it’s because you already know where it is and it’s sad to say but that’s what I believe. I also believe that the stepfathers parents have something to do with it as well. If what Chris’s ex wife says is true then they are just as bad as he is. My question is why did they go on vacation? Did the cops follow them to see what they were doing and where they trying to Dispose of something on the way there or back. as far as the ex-wife has said, we already know how much they want to keep Chris’s daughter away from her and have her be with Chris her father, so maybe that couldn’t happen with Sebastian in the picture with this new Info that came out about him being SA’d Chris calling him horrible names and wanted to keep him away from her. So unfortunately, in order for that to happen, they would have to have him mysteriously disappear. I don’t know maybe I’m crazy for thinking all of this, but there’s a reason this boy has not been found and there’s a reason why his mom and stepfather has not gone out looking for him. My heart goes out to his biological father Seth and brakes for him at the same time. I pray every day that they find this boy alive and bring him home to his dad!! I know if this was God forbid ever to be a situation that somebody I know was in or in myself you wouldn’t be pulling me off the streets I would be on the streets day in and day out, searching for my child so it really blows my mind when a parent or parents don’t go out and search at all. And the last thing on my mind is why won’t Chris take a polygraph he blames it on the cop saying not to or he don’t need to because he was not in the area but then he tells Nancy he will take one for her to then only cancel it with her. If that doesn’t scream red flags all over it then honestly I don’t know what does.
@@karieschneider746um the parents have already told us.
Woman that take the side of a man over her children should automatically get the worst punishment.
Agreeeeeee!!!!!!!!
yes and same sentence
I appreciate that comment, Friend. Women that choose a man over their vulnerable babies are complete trash!
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EXACTLY! I have personal experience with this and I cannot even begin to express how this enrages me. I made my ex leave the house immediately and turned his ass in to the police. No hesitation whatsoever! I cannot wrap my brain around the idea of a mother choosing a man over her child!
I’m not expert on autism, but I am a mom, and if I heard a thud, my first reaction would be to run to my kid’s room to make sure they were ok. The math isn’t mathing
Right. A thud makes me think of someone falling on the floor. Is she telling something she didn't mean to?
And she never said he responded to her... like...ok mom
As a mum of special needs children u do go check because they could be doing anything! Even if they were not “special” yes a mum u go and check something smells fishy with his “mum”
I'm not a parent but that'd be my first reaction too like jeez if I hear a thud in the middle of the night im gonna investigate regardless of someone being there or not...
Exactly.
That mom is emotionless. How can your son be missing and you sit there and talk like you're telling a story.
Bc she's focused on getting the STORY correct which blocks out any genuine emotion. If she even has any genuine emotion to begin with. Those two are guilty as sin. The police seem like they have nothing on them but I hope Iam so wrong.
I feel like their interviews are scripted!
Technically she is telling a story
I know right. Looks like guilt to me
Not comparing being a parent to having pets. But I was more nerve wrecked when my dog got out for HALF A DAY than what I've seen from some of these cases. I feel my anxiety for my dog going missing should be the BASELINE for parents with kids missing.
The REAL QUESTION is: WHO was LAST to see Sebastian OTHER THAN the parents???
They are lying.
I’m curious to know if there’s footage of Sebastian taking out the trash like she said he did. Something is just so off.
There’s no footage.
Even Susan Smith faked more emotion than those two.
They said he was out that evening with family for dinner and cousins were there. How old are cousins? Could they have made plans with Sebastian to sneak out and meet up that night?
@@deborahmazza8123 wish it was that, sadly I believe its more sinister. The boy had been sexually abused and the step father thought his daughter (from a previous relationship that stayed sometimes) was going to be at risk of Sebastian SA'ing her. (This bloke beat his autistic step son with a belt, he's aggressive). So there's the motive.
It sounds like Katie “heard a thud” just like Jenn Soto “saw her daughter getting dressed”.
Right?!!!! .. smh.. But why are Katie and Chris not looking for him?
I feel like bc Sebastian is autistic; she’d be more inclined to check on what the noise could be. IF she had any concern for her son. Sounds made up. Like a diversion.
Exactly...
I know.
No scent from dogs, no shoes missing, nothing taken as if he ran away, mom works for brinks but no security, did aliens abduct him? Mom an step dad "ok he could be anywhere we out of here", not searching for him.. yeah.. checks out. *serious side eye*
I also feel that she should be looking for her son. Her husband can go on and work. She needs to look for her son.
Exactly! Any mother who isn't guilty would have stayed home to look for their child! It makes zero sense to me! Those two did something to Sebastian.
She knows where his is which is why she just goes off to Memphis with her control freak husband. She would sacrifice her son to keep her lifestyle.
If you know there dead, why look, right? Waste of time.
I agree. He claims he doesn't know if he still has a job. I feel the mom and real dad need to put their pride aside and work together. Pray he is found safe. 🙏🏻
he is not going to let katie out of his sight
I have a son with Autism . I hear a thud in his room I’m hauling Ass to his room! Usually it’s his door slamming because of the wind but I still head straight to his room n make sure he’s good!! And if my son left the house I’d be out day n night looking for him because he would get lost and turned around! I CALL BULLSHIT!!
She says she called out but he answered that he was ok.
Exactly! 💯 Especially if the child has Autism, it's different.
If you look at a video by Chris ex wife he and his family are nice people her story broke my heart
i have a feeling the stepdad was actually home that night. something happened to where the stepdad and/or mom harmed him.. then the stepdad traveled back to wherever for "work" and put his body somewhere in between. his mother not going out searching is very telling.
My thoughts exactly.. who knows what that poor boy was going through in that household
I completely agree with you. Thank you 😢
Agree. I also think the mom is absolutely complicit...
I agree
The technology is so advanced now that somewhere is a camera that shows something , but by not issuing an amber alert immediately that bought him time if they had issued someone would know to look for that vehicle , truck or cars involved but it's been over a month would be a lot less likely someone go over the footage of the time involved to find something like as in the Moscow four case it was a local convenient store manager that was in front of the street you would turn down to get to the kids house that gave L.E the car to look for .
Mom and step have done something with him.
If Sebastian was outside the dogs would've picked up his scent. He didn't walk out of the house.
Right. I was coming to write that.
That's what Nancy Grace says also..,.
His mother is not even looking for him she is gone somewhere if she heard a thud why did she not go see was he ok very strange
Right, it also means he did not go to put the trash out or the dog would of tracked the scent
Can’t the search dogs detect scents up to seven days old? In that case shouldn’t they have still been able to detect Sebastian’s scent since he was still going to school and stuff the week before he went missing?
Seth breaks my heart, he is so clearly choking back with every word he says. He kept his composure the whole time too. One extremely important and noteworthy attribute about Seth is that there isn’t one fake or phony thing about him. He and his emotions are true and real unlike many of the “mothers” of a lot of these missing children who are so visibly obviously phony!
Ok, now based on the ME Report, time to arrest the mother Jenn Soto. At least for neglect of a child.
Once arrested she will start to talk, in an attempt to become a witness rather than a suspect.
Jen was jealous of Maddi & Katie didn’t want to give custody to biological dad Seth! These mothers remind me of Casey Anthony! Just going on living their best lives, while their baby is lifeless! 😭
Right? God forbid, if one of my children were to go missing I would be out of my mind. I would not rest until they were found. I would be hounding the authorities daily to see what they were doing to find my child. Every waking hour would be spent physically looking everywhere for my child. I would be BEGGING the public to please help me find my child. I just don't understand some of these people.
Oh geez that’s just heartbreaking and makes me sick to my stomach thinking about it. It’s just so unfathomable to me!
@@deniece0821Katie is with an obvious control freak , if she gives up Sebastian she loses his disability check and child support follow the money who would stand to lose the most money?
Right! 💯
Casey Anthony will never have a successful life. Look where her life has gone so far. She’s stilll grasping at straws. My BIL that was a Warden for a prison said all along they wouldn’t be able to convict her.
They didn’t have a cause of death, time of death or manner of death on her baby girl. Based on that I can see why they didn’t convict this Monster!
I think the mom knows more. No eye contact during the interview makes me suspicious.
Maybe it's an autism trait?
The voice is too calm. No panic just a mundane phone call about a missing child. Very suspicious!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 y'all r so weird with these comments like people act the same way during interviews. Not everyone is sobbing losing their mind
If she was panicking then the vital information you need to relay to 911 won’t come across properly. I agree if it was the mother calling then yes it’s suspicious but by making this comment about another family member who seems to have had no idea what was going on then your implicating she was in on it.
@@kshejohnson9207 You don't have to be out of your mind running like a lunatic, but you have to be somewhat human,and not a robot or a unconscious serial killer.
If Katie thought Sebastian left would she not first reach out to Seth to see if Sebastian called him. ??
She described that she didn’t even look or yell outside for him, before calling Chris.
@@rhondasisco-cleveland2665 I heard her say in a different interview she drove around. I wish they would just tell the truth and bring Sebastian home!!
Good question! 💚💚
When the mother and the stepfather was being interviewed, I got a real strange feeling in the behavior wasn’t quite right. She kept looking at him to answer the questions she was getting approval or should I say this or something I don’t know, but I got bad feelings, bad vibes.
She's hesitant in case he has the urge to cut in and talk all over her if she says something he wants to disagree with like Don Wells would do with Candus.
Did you notice him cough and she shut up? That was his signal to stop talking. Imo
💯 bingo
It is pretty shameful that no one came out for a missing child call. What if it was a child who was alive?
I think had they have deputies available they would have gone. The police in today's world is overwhelmed and there is a massive decline in people applying to become police. Not surprising given the last few years.
Seth has kept himself on a very tight rein for weeks, when he is interviewed - he can't continue that forever and we are seeing that now. My heart breaks for him. He needs all our support. As for the Proudfoots, I have major questions!
Check the construction site or on the road between home and the construction site! I am suspicious of the stepdad and the mom knows something.
Where'd you dump that poor kid's body, Mom?
Exactly. Mom and step know where his body is.
Exactly
More like he's probably somewhere between home and stepdads place of work.
Good point
That's why they're not searching. Or staying home just in case he's found. Sebastian is missing to Seth, Seth's mother and the rest of the world, but he's not missing in the eyes of the Proudfoots.
Straight up they’re being deceitful! And your son is missing and you leave town? WTH. It smells way off. We all know where this is headed
Katie Proudfoot = Jenn Soto
Very similar disposition, detached and unemotional.
Both put their gross partners needs above their child's too.
Not even close I know wine has depleted your brain cells but one of them allowed their spouse to #$@# a child...
I thought that too early on..maybe because I followed Madelaine's case too. The rocking in the first interview. The staring at the floor in the 2nd..🤔
Problems at home: neglectful alcoholic Katie and physically abusive Chris.
I don't know what level of ASD Sebastian has been diagnosed with, but we have a nonverbal 4yr old with ASD and all our doors/windows (exit/entry points) are fully secured. Cctvs and alarms are all in place... AND I always have my eye on my child, she even sleeps in the same room as we do. I might be overprotective or doing "too much" but, I DGAF, better safe than sorry. I hope you are safe, I hope you are well.. Sebastian. ❤
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Seth said Sebastian had a chromosome disorder he takes meds for. Likely without it he could have seizures. Man, this is so sad the more things come out..
Keep doing what you're doing. And never take further security for granted
You're definitely not doing too much, only you know your child and how to keep them safe. My nephew has nonverbal ASD and he escaped out of his bedroom window one night because his parents didn't install his air conditioner correctly. Thankfully, their dog barked until they woke up so they found him before he got too far. It's way better to be safe than sorry.
Not too overprotective at all! Good for you momma
THE MOM AND STEPDAD ARE CLEARLY LYING. Their story keeps changing and expanding on significant points that should not be changing. That is evidence of foul play
when i got s-assaulted as a child, i basically immediately told my mom. we were extremely close and she could tell something happened, so i told her and she helped me recover.
Madeline’s mother was either in on it or horrifically absent from her daughter’s life/had no relationship with her daughter. how is that she as a mother never EVER in 5(?) yrs recognized what was going on? she simply knew and didn’t care or she just didn’t know her kid. that’s just wild to me.
If you notice on the 911 call that was made by Jen's sister she says to the operator "I called not long ago to report a missing child and no one showed up yet" so this leads me to believe that the 3 calls to 911 were all made within short span of time, furthermore when Jen heard that the police are on their way she decided to go back to Madeline school to "double check".. checking for what? Why didn't check before why now when the police needs the info from the ppl whom seen her last, plus school was closed hours ago.. It's like Jenn didn't want to meet the police, one more thing have you noticed Jen took a while to answer and tell her sister what Madeline wearing.
Interesting...
excellent observation
Interesting
I'd be calling directly from the school as soon as I found out my kid was not at school all day!!!
Exactly. Attendance calls are automated and automatic literally everywhere. Jenn is a LIAR. If school started at 9 they texted and called by 9:30 etc. She knew
@@keepyourculture the school has since changed their policy on attendance calls. The calls used to go out in the afternoon.
I said this over a week ago. If Maddie didn't show up for school, why wouldn't they have called her mother? Jenn didn't know until 4:30 when she went to pick her up? Not likely.
@@cindee1794 Our school district calls in the morning but this school/district did call in the afternoons; they just recently changed that because of Maddes case. So, she is telling the truth about the attendance call.
@@CBrown86no not literally everywhere. It should be in the morning I agree with that but it’s not everywhere her school didn’t send it out until late afternoon.
The way they keep looking at each other as she slowly picks and chooses the words very carefully and looks to him as if she's being careful not to slip up. And most of all NO TEAR'S, NO EMOTION....And she seems to close her eyes when talking at times.....
Hughes is the ABSOLUTE WORST to ask or get info on this case! First he hasn’t even been covering this case until LAST NIGHT admitted by him and second he ALWAYS goes against others just for clicks & blocks ANYONE who doesn’t agree !
This was my first thought…”you seriously gave Gray Hughes, of all people, a legit platform?!” 😒🙄
Vinnie, great interview with the dad yesterday (I think it was yesterday). That’s how a concerned parent behaves. Interesting points made tonight.
Mom is guilty. Never looks up at all.
I watched the interviews. I realized that their house was too clean, too clean, like it had been cleaned.
Why did Katie have custody of Sebastian?
Shared custody.
Both these cases have alot of similarities. Breaks my heart for both. Fact that they went missing the same day. Step dads that are POS. Suppose to protect our young not harm them.
Yep but with Maddie it was her mom's boyfriend and she probably knows something. But when Sebastian's case it does seem like it was the mom who killed her child and step dad helped hide the evidence. But both mom's do act a lot like each other. Except I feel like Katie is so angry.
@@type1d760agreed, her anger is palpable.
I bet if they interrogated Sebastian's mom separates nowhere near her husband she would break down because he is keeping her from saying something you can tell he will not let her do an interview by herself
What makes you think they haven't questioned her without her husband, seriously? Of course they have. YT interviews have nothing to do with LE, Thank God. It's vile what is taking place on social media, for shame. Sebastian deserves better than all of this, it's not our business & it's mind blowing that anyone finds it ok for this ok to be publicly blasted to the world. Take a minute and think about this being broadcasted about your child or a child you know and love, imagine how that child would feel. WTF is wrong with ppl.
@@ew8813"of course they have" 🙄 your faith in the police is naìve, to say the least.
@@y2ksurvivor With all due respect, you are rather "naive" if you do not believe that interviewing her alone is one of the very first things LE did, not to mention the TBI, whom has also stated they've met with her without CP. My faith, or lack there of, in LE is irrelevant & has nothing to do w/ standard procedures. Now if I put my faith into finding facts in the assumptions, speculations & narratives of commentators, channel holders & ppl on YT, that would be incredibly naive, it goes without saying.
The police would’ve interviewed them both separately.
Sebastian's stepdad admitted that 'a few years ago' he'd hit Sebastian with a belt for 'lying to him'.
Recently Sebastian told his bio father he 'didn't want to go back home' but refused to say why.
Did he try to run away and met with disaster - or did the unthinkable occur?
If everyone isn't cleared then why was thr mom allowes to keave the state? Make it make sense!
I truly believe there were problems. I pray they find him.
Omg I was watching before you had that knowitall Hughes on! What a total waste of space 🙄
Yeah, Gray is really pushing himself on Court TV, he calls them, even though says that they want him on🤣 He is the biggest grifter!
He's so rude and disrespectful for everyone...except Vinnie or people he can grift on. He's so harsh to everyone else.
What I find interesting also is there is no way in my city if someone called 911 about a missing child, I am positive we would have helicopters up an officers out immediately!! what the heck is this kind of Hokey Pokey force that can't send somebody out for a missing child? This is really bad look Florida really despicable
Seriously- that made my jaw drop. Every moment counts and they didn't seem to have any urgency whatsoever.
No caring mother would leave the house knowing her missing child might come home!! I know a lady whose daughter went missing in 1990, and she still lives at the same house in hopes her daughter will make it home!
I agree 💯 with you. If any of my children went missing I would stay out for sure!!!!
Oh that's heartbreaking...what is the daughter's name and what were the circummstances? I follow as many cases as I can. 🕵️♀️
Was that morgan nicks mother? I saw a programme about her. She keeps a lamp on all night on the porch
Sebastian WAS ALREADY DEAD AND BURIED by the time these "parents" REPORTED him "MISSING"!! TBI FAILED ONCE AGAIN!!
"I don't care what you're doing, but go to sleep"? Why wouldn't you care?
How did no one see him tho ? How did no cameras pick him up. So odd.
Vinnie, you are an outstanding host and a champion stalwart of criminal cases especially these involving children. I'm always looking forward to your coverage including the trials. Your stability is appreciated.
I love the Judges last comment... " as long the attorney is willing to live at the penitentiary"!!...
Vinnie: BOOM!!
😂😂😂😂....LOL
Why did she leave town to go to work with him
Right! I would be out there looking till I find my baby.
Fleeing the scene of the crime?
She's weak and looks guilty.
@@Monarch_girlExactly
Because he has to keep her under his thumb, so he can control what she says.
I feel so sorry for this kid and his dad. 😢
Did you guys noticed how Chris knotted his head in agreement when she said “ we went to dinner” and he’s like yeah yeah that’s what happened..
The way to find out where Sebastian is is to follow the GPS on the vehicles and all of the vehicles within that time frame and the phones see if they match up because he definitely got rid of Sebastian for the mom the mom is the one that looks guilty to me I don't know why she won't look into any camera anybody's eyes if she was home and got into a fight with him because he wanted to go to his dad's house and that started it
They should have investigated more a long time ago.
I have always loved Vinnie. What a good man.
If she couldn’t hear anything from the back bedroom, how could she hear the tud?
I love how Gray acts in a nice way to Vinnie, but usually yells at his subscribers...calling us idiots, stupid and losers. Agh.
Gray is always rude to his subs !
Omg! Right? I can't stand how rude he is....his comment replies are atrocious. How anyone can think he's nice is blind
People shouldn’t subscribe to him then.
I was just thinking the same thing. Usually he yells, belittles and bully the viewers if they don’t share his opinion or asks questions. He is a terrible human being and the way he begs for money, almost demanding super chats is horrible. He gaslights his subscribers into giving him money and never takes accountability for anything wrong he does. He blocks people calling them trolls if they have an independent thought that differs from his. He even blocks members, who has paid for their membership, but not before he has yelled, belittled and bullied them making sure that his loyal minions (the freaks) in the chat has bullied the person too. It is just awful to witness and I don’t have a chance to stick up for the person, because I’m blocked too. It is like a cult and he wants to be their leader, it is really scary. He thinks so highly of himself and he thinks all the other creators steal his work, it just laughable because he is nothing else than an unemployed you tuber who is good at Google maps🤣please stay away from his channel🫶
Heck I was a loyal subscriber of Gray and donated rather a lot of money. Until I realised it was all about bloody money. Got to a point I forgot about myself. I was in a vulnerable place at the time, not a victim by the way. Well I changed and have never looked back. It is cult like. I cringe when I hear the noise for money. It’s similar to bidding wars. No other channel pushes for money like GHI. Actually when I had financial struggles I felt like texting and asking for some money back. 😂😂😂
What was the condition of Sebastian’s bedroom window?
Locked
You can not confirm S didn't have shoes. K could be lying, or she bought him new ones at the store just prior to going missing.
If Sebastain just left the house, barefooted, then the dogs should have picked up his scent.
Great show Vinnie, as usual.
Love the synopsis before each case; it's easier to follow especially when they're new (to me).
I look forward to your show & your YT channel too.
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Fanny, where was the stepfather was having they checked? He said he was working someplace else was he really there?
He was more than 3 hours away, but that’s 6-7 hours round trip. It’s doable.
That's been my question. They say he was away on a work assignment. Has this been verified 100%?
Justice for Madeline and Sebastian and all the other children out there that have disappeared Hope and Prayers from Australia 🦘
Seth said that they’ve always had surveillance cameras so where did the cameras go?
THIS WAS PLANNED!
Taken down deliberately?🤔🕵️♀️
I have followed you for years. Thank you Mr. Politan. You explain a case like you're writing a book. Totally magnificent. Again ..... Thank you ❤
Praying for Sebastian
I agree lack of emotion. They are very strange imo.
Not knowing is the worst torture of a parent!
My son has full custody of his high functioning autistic son. Highly intelligent young boy with some issues in Social functioning. The birth mother couldn't deal with him at all even when he was an infant and young child. My son is so good with my Grandson in getting the help he requires to succeed and have a happy life! ❤️
Every child is different, Seth has a strong loving relationship with Sebastian its clear! He is so aware of Sebastian's needs! And worked with his young son to make his life happy! God bless men like Seth and my son! ❣️🙏🇺🇲
We all looked at Zillow and saw the home days ago. Gray acts like he invented the wheel.
My god, poor Maddie was completely let down by her own mother, and what that monster did to her... and law enforcement couldn't find a deputy for a missing girl. WTH...
A missing child isn’t considered URGENT???
The reason why Mom don't want to be home is because she was the one that got into the argument with Sebastian it brings bad memories and she can't stand to be in there because of what happened he just came and got rid of the body so that she wouldn't go to jail and he's keeping her to her story
That does make sense as to why she fled the scene 😢
Ok then go tell that to the police and solve the case as you know everything
Bingo 💯 That's exactly what I think happened. Katie lost her temper with Sebastian. Seth said that Katie said on that Thursday b4 he went missing that Katie wanted it to be a good weekend and she didn't want any problems with Sebastian basically. If she really is an alcoholic then I swear I can picture her being a mean drunk. I think she's way more conniving than any of us realize. She's putting up a front/blocking out all of her emotions of what she did to Sebastian on Sunday night.😢
@@merimasviland8006you're gonna feel silly when the parents end up being charged.
Haha I dont think you understood. Everyone knows they are guilty, but you seem to nnow everything that the police dont. You can go back to school and learn something. @@y2ksurvivor
My grandson is Autistic and has always been fascinated with water, in a faucet, a sink, tub, or swimming pool, pond. He is drawn to water any kind any where.
My mom always check us out at night even if we’re adults already.
Why isn’t Jennifer making the call?
Please, please find my son. I font hear that from proudfoots.
THAT MOM IS SO SCRIPTED!😡
This angers me…I’m a father to an autistic toddler. Autistic children have a beautiful light in there eyes, they can get you to the point that you want to pull your hair out and at the last minute do something so cute or special that makes you forget about it. They teach us to see the world different when stop and allow them… the random giggles of pure innocence coming from the back of the car on long drives and the looks for encouragement during uncertainty. I’m proud to be a father of a special little boy, autism is beautiful and special when you open your mind and soul.
Sounds like your toddler is like all toddlers and their parents
Please stop showing Maddie and that predator in the same frame. Maddie deserves better!
Let’s all take a step back and look at the facts. Sebastian has NEVER wondered away from home on his own. She left the house in a vehicle to go look for him before she called the police. No one else was in the home but him and his mom. Have you noticed she has a hard time looking up when doing an interview. If you recall, Susan Smith did the same thing after she murmured her boys. Now she’s going to leave the home while her 15 year old son is missing. Hell no! Wild horses wouldn’t be able to drag me away. She knows he’s not coming back.
Seth Rogers stated in an interview that the ‘lights’ video was the garbage truck doing pickup. Is this incorrect? Why wouldn’t the cop just say it was the garbage truck?
Vinnie heard exactly what I heard - when Jen was asked on the 911 by the caller regarding what she was wearing, Jen had to ask someone else - so her statement that she saw her that morning, and obviously her and Stephan dropping her off in the morning, are entirely lies. What did she lie?
Id like to know if 3 hour phone calls on a sunday night were normal for them or was this unusual. Out of schedule and normalcy
The poor kid is berried where his horrible stepdad works, and his mother knows that. That’s my intuition.
I totally thought that too.
Could this mother be any more annoyed by her son?! Even the thought of him annoys her, she can’t even disguise it.
Also, she dehumanises him by saying that he “growls” when angry…if you carefully listen to her, she only says awful/passive aggressive/demeaning things about him…she said he doesn’t have any friends…”he’s 15, he has snakes😒😒😒”, he ate a “colossal popcorn😒😒😒”…and this was definitely a negative/passive-aggressive remark. I see zero love, zero empathy, it’s scary.
did you see the comment she made about the chocolate milk stains on his mouth on picture day at school?
she said with disgust that he left it there because he didn’t wipe it off at breakfast.
personally, i would of thought that that was cute and made him a human. but her annoyance-she couldn’t help herself but to put him down.
@@jendee1260 yes, I forgot to mention it, it broke my heart honestly. She never fails to demean and ridicule this sweet child. It’s awful to see and hear. She looks disgusted and annoyed every time she talks about him. Meanwhile his dad Seth always says the best things about his boy, that he’s super smart, he can swim like a fish, that he loves animals! Even the stepdad was softer than the mother - he justified him, when she said that he’s always angry and he “growls”, by saying that he’s a teenager anyway. But the mother never sticks with her son, she is just cold, detached, mean.
Poor Sebastian.
When you don't search for someone it's usually because you already know where they are...period!!
Question: In her first interview, didn’t Madeline’s mother say “WE DROPPED HER OFF FOR SCHOOL “? When you watch, she has a look on her face and then speaks very low and muffled.
A tracking dog didn’t pick up his scent outside the house
That mother is so disgusting and should be put to jail ASAP just for exposing her autistic child to her pedophile husband!
Sebatians step dad is a pedophile? I have not heard that.
What?
Her husband is not a pedo. It was a family friend that they allegedly invited into their home.
It was a 13 yr old child that would come over for play dates and they never checked on thrm
NOT TRUE, you need to delete this now. SMFH
At 15:44 you guys talk about the "thud" the mom described. I don't remember her ever saying she got a response from Sebastian, she just said she yelled out, "Did you fall out of bed? Whatever you're doing, go to sleep." Correct me if I'm wrong. But that's something that struck me as so odd...you would think if it was a 2 story house, thuds from above may be quite normal...but a thud across the entire house, and she didn't bother to get up and check on him? Does NOT make sense!
That’s b/c Gray Hughes is a fraud; you should not take anything he says as fact.
Evidently children do just vanish. Summer Wells did. That was Tennessee also. My heart goes out to Seth. How horrible this is. I pray sebastian is found safe and unharmed.
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Gray Hughes channel has court document from 2017 that Seth was also abusing Sabastian.
And now they're selling their home Mom leaves the house to go to a job with her husband but he said he was off and he wasn't sure he had a job in the same breath says they're leaving to go to work for him Mom leaves the house when if he's alive he could come back they know he's not coming back and that's why they're selling the house
I understand selling their home is a rumor
Sadly, I believe there is a chance that poor little Maddie was pregnant and that's why she was killed by those monsters. Domestic violence would certainly include a mother and step father, but I wonder if it's "domestic violence" because she was pregnant and was killed by the monster that impregnated her. I truly hope that is not the case. This case is dark enough already and doesn't need to get any worse. I already lose sleep thinking about it.
But they should have known an autopsy would reveal it .
I thought the exact same thing. It makes the most sense
They must be quite sure Stephen Sterns was the one who unalived her, rather than some 'client' she may have been sold to overnight or any other person.
@@NicolletteCoke Maddie looks pregnant in her birthday picture.
@@RepentfollowJesusThey probably wouldn't say anything about the adoptsy since she was a minor,but she looked very pregnant in the picture at the birthday party,you could see her little belly button sticking out like some pregnant woman's does,So Sad 😢
Domestic violence? Interesting.
Thank you for another great coverage Vinnie. Prayers for Madeline and Sebastian ♥️♥️
Kaite hurt Sebastian an chris Cleaned everything up, thats my opinion
Praying Sebastian is found safe an well prayers for seth an all involved
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Love @CourtTV ❤️ unfortunately promoting @GrayHughesInvestigates is a mistake. He is rude and ridiculous. There are many other more reliable and respectful creators with better content. I couldn't even sit through this video and hope we are not subjected to Gray again.
💯agree. There are much nicer, cordial, respectful, and compassionate guests he could have in instead of this...rude guy. All anyone has to do is see how he replies to his commenters in chat or on the replay. They don't deserve that. They aren't being rude but dang...he's harsh to them. Just don't comment at all but instead he must have some major insecurities to be that rude
A HUGE Mistake
I couldn’t believe they actually allowed that man on here and presented him as legit.
Thank you
There's something about the thump noise she heard that's fishy. Based on the length of the house and proximity of the two bedrooms, she's not likely to have heard a clear reply from her son, could've been someone else answering.